FBG Mock Draft '25 Completed with all 101 picks inside (9 Viewers)

[Ministry of Pain]

With the 49th pick of the 2025 Imaginary NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Jack Sawyer, EDGE, Ohio State.

There was a point where he had a 1st Rd grade on him and then I'm not sure what happened to cause him to slip but I like him a lot
Local guy never hurts with the fan base and they need the pass rush

 

[daveR]

All four of my "next choice" got sniped. Bastards! With 2.whatever, 46 overall, the Browns select Xavier Watts, S, ND.

Hey @daveR, I'd like to say something if you'll indulge me. I had gently criticized your trade involving the 1.2 (potentially Travis Hunter) because I didn't think you got enough in return. Well, I did some diving into different charts that analytics guys in front offices use and there were at least two charts wherein if we're looking at raw picks and not assigning a player value to the deal, then you made out quite well.

One of the charts or valuation techniques is called the Fitzgerald-Spielberger point system and it had your net gain in value equivalent to the #21 pick overall in the draft. Another chart, the Harvard Trade Value Chart, had you gaining significant value and equaled what was equivalent to the #33 overall pick in the draft, which is a pretty nice pick.

Now, there are other charts that had you not getting as much value as you gave—and one had you giving value by quite a bit, but the existence of the aforementioned value charts is interesting to me and hopefully to you also.

So man, I apologize for publicly dissenting, even if it was a mild dissent with nothing personal behind it.

I still think Hunter is more than the valuation that the charts are assigning the #2 pick, but that's subjective.

Appreciate the kind words. OTOH, everybody is welcome to level whatever criticism they like. If I were to do it over again, I might well select Hunter.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Pick 48 - Philadelphia Eagles select Tyleik Williams, DT, Ohio State

"That's what we call Overkill"
-Col Mustard

 

[eighsse2]

With the 49th pick of the 2025 Imaginary NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Jack Sawyer, EDGE, Ohio State.

There was a point where he had a 1st Rd grade on him and then I'm not sure what happened to cause him to slip but I like him a lot
Local guy never hurts with the fan base and they need the pass rush

Actually had 3 Buckeyes in our top handful of remaining guys. Zero homerism, they were just coincidentally the ones at the top. Tyleik was one, who went immediately prior to our pick.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

All four of my "next choice" got sniped. Bastards! With 2.whatever, 46 overall, the Browns select Xavier Watts, S, ND.

Hey @daveR, I'd like to say something if you'll indulge me. I had gently criticized your trade involving the 1.2 (potentially Travis Hunter) because I didn't think you got enough in return. Well, I did some diving into different charts that analytics guys in front offices use and there were at least two charts wherein if we're looking at raw picks and not assigning a player value to the deal, then you made out quite well.

One of the charts or valuation techniques is called the Fitzgerald-Spielberger point system and it had your net gain in value equivalent to the #21 pick overall in the draft. Another chart, the Harvard Trade Value Chart, had you gaining significant value and equaled what was equivalent to the #33 overall pick in the draft, which is a pretty nice pick.

Now, there are other charts that had you not getting as much value as you gave—and one had you giving value by quite a bit, but the existence of the aforementioned value charts is interesting to me and hopefully to you also.

So man, I apologize for publicly dissenting, even if it was a mild dissent with nothing personal behind it.

I still think Hunter is more than the valuation that the charts are assigning the #2 pick, but that's subjective.

Appreciate the kind words. OTOH, everybody is welcome to level whatever criticism they like. If I were to do it over again, I might well select Hunter.

You beefed up the line and added a guy with Pearce that can also help out Myles Garrett across from him
This should equal strength and ability to shut down the run plus bring some pressure
Do the Browns need some help in the secondary? Yes they do and you deliver with Watts to start the process.
You can't draft 2-3 guys at once and there are some other prospect at CB I like later in this draft that we won't get to because they likely are after the 3rd round

A Qb named Dart
Dart throws a Dart is gonna be a popular thing to say on the TV one day
I like his upside and you didn't stretch to get him, the Browns need more than Pickens, you likely are going ot be taking another QB in a better class int he future
Nothing to lose with this pick

 

[Ministry of Pain]

@travdogg

2025 NFL three-round mock draft: Bears trade up for Abdul Carter; Jets, Steelers, Saints target QBs on Day 2

Only 2 QBs go in Round 1, Pats move down and still get OT

www.cbssports.com

They play it out Ward, Sanders, Hunter and then the Bears trade up. You wanted a different player so you aimed a little higher
4 for the 10-41 and a '26 3rd Rd pick is what they post w/NewEngland as your dance partner and then taking Carter for pass rush purposes.
I like yours better for Hunter

 

[daveR]

All four of my "next choice" got sniped. Bastards! With 2.whatever, 46 overall, the Browns select Xavier Watts, S, ND.

Hey @daveR, I'd like to say something if you'll indulge me. I had gently criticized your trade involving the 1.2 (potentially Travis Hunter) because I didn't think you got enough in return. Well, I did some diving into different charts that analytics guys in front offices use and there were at least two charts wherein if we're looking at raw picks and not assigning a player value to the deal, then you made out quite well.

One of the charts or valuation techniques is called the Fitzgerald-Spielberger point system and it had your net gain in value equivalent to the #21 pick overall in the draft. Another chart, the Harvard Trade Value Chart, had you gaining significant value and equaled what was equivalent to the #33 overall pick in the draft, which is a pretty nice pick.

Now, there are other charts that had you not getting as much value as you gave—and one had you giving value by quite a bit, but the existence of the aforementioned value charts is interesting to me and hopefully to you also.

So man, I apologize for publicly dissenting, even if it was a mild dissent with nothing personal behind it.

I still think Hunter is more than the valuation that the charts are assigning the #2 pick, but that's subjective.

Appreciate the kind words. OTOH, everybody is welcome to level whatever criticism they like. If I were to do it over again, I might well select Hunter.

You beefed up the line and added a guy with Pearce that can also help out Myles Garrett across from him
This should equal strength and ability to shut down the run plus bring some pressure
Do the Browns need some help in the secondary? Yes they do and you deliver with Watts to start the process.
You can't draft 2-3 guys at once and there are some other prospect at CB I like later in this draft that we won't get to because they likely are after the 3rd round

A Qb named Dart
Dart throws a Dart is gonna be a popular thing to say on the TV one day
I like his upside and you didn't stretch to get him, the Browns need more than Pickens, you likely are going ot be taking another QB in a better class int he future
Nothing to lose with this pick

Now that we're getting there, I kinda regret trading the later picks for 46. When I accepted that one, I was thinking that 2nd round picks are generally starters with high ceilings, whereas 3s are 50-50. Additionally, he had use for the picks & I figured, "Go ahead. Have some fun!" There are several players remaining that I'd probably value, as aggregate, more than Watts, but time will tell.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Whoever is running the Jacksonville draft, kudos, I think you're killing it.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

50. @RC94 on the clock
51. @Stoneworker on deck
52. @Largent I believe is up after that

Not being pushy, just wanted folks to know where we are at

 

[Grahamburn]

50. @RC94 on the clock
51. @Stoneworker on deck
52. @Largent I believe is up after that

Not being pushy, just wanted folks to know where we are at

Nope. This is helpful to keep things moving along.

 

[-OZ-]

With the 49th pick of the 2025 Imaginary NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Jack Sawyer, EDGE, Ohio State.

This is a guy I so want to be a titan but there’s little chance.
Just so happens to share his name with my youngest son, different order.

 

[eighsse2]

With the 49th pick of the 2025 Imaginary NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Jack Sawyer, EDGE, Ohio State.

This is a guy I so want to be a titan but there’s little chance.
Just so happens to share his name with my youngest son, different order.

Sawyer Jack then? My nephew's name is Sawyer as well. That's the primary reason I picked him (jk, secondary reason).

 

[-OZ-]

With the 49th pick of the 2025 Imaginary NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Jack Sawyer, EDGE, Ohio State.

This is a guy I so want to be a titan but there’s little chance.
Just so happens to share his name with my youngest son, different order.

Sawyer Jack then? My nephew's name is Sawyer as well. That's the primary reason I picked him (jk, secondary reason).

Full name, Sawyer sack jack.

 

[RC94]

With the #50 pick, the NY Giants select QB. Jalen Milroe. Milroe has huge upside, but needs to sit and learn for at least a year IMO. If I needed a QB now, I probably would have gone in a different direction. Since they already have Wilson and Winston, there is no preasure to play Milroe this year, which is the best situation for him IMO. This is Daboll's chance to show that he can develop a QB. He couldn't develop Jones and for some reason Schoen never drafted a QB in 3 years, despite Jones being a constant problem, so this is Daboll's 2nd chance. Given Milroe's upside and being in a situation to be patient with him, this is setting up Daboll for a good 2nd chance, and for Milroe to succeed.

 

[MAC_32]

All four of my "next choice" got sniped. Bastards! With 2.whatever, 46 overall, the Browns select Xavier Watts, S, ND.

Hey @daveR, I'd like to say something if you'll indulge me. I had gently criticized your trade involving the 1.2 (potentially Travis Hunter) because I didn't think you got enough in return. Well, I did some diving into different charts that analytics guys in front offices use and there were at least two charts wherein if we're looking at raw picks and not assigning a player value to the deal, then you made out quite well.

One of the charts or valuation techniques is called the Fitzgerald-Spielberger point system and it had your net gain in value equivalent to the #21 pick overall in the draft. Another chart, the Harvard Trade Value Chart, had you gaining significant value and equaled what was equivalent to the #33 overall pick in the draft, which is a pretty nice pick.

Now, there are other charts that had you not getting as much value as you gave—and one had you giving value by quite a bit, but the existence of the aforementioned value charts is interesting to me and hopefully to you also.

So man, I apologize for publicly dissenting, even if it was a mild dissent with nothing personal behind it.

I still think Hunter is more than the valuation that the charts are assigning the #2 pick, but that's subjective.

Appreciate the kind words. OTOH, everybody is welcome to level whatever criticism they like. If I were to do it over again, I might well select Hunter.

You beefed up the line and added a guy with Pearce that can also help out Myles Garrett across from him
This should equal strength and ability to shut down the run plus bring some pressure
Do the Browns need some help in the secondary? Yes they do and you deliver with Watts to start the process.
You can't draft 2-3 guys at once and there are some other prospect at CB I like later in this draft that we won't get to because they likely are after the 3rd round

A Qb named Dart
Dart throws a Dart is gonna be a popular thing to say on the TV one day
I like his upside and you didn't stretch to get him, the Browns need more than Pickens, you likely are going ot be taking another QB in a better class int he future
Nothing to lose with this pick

I don't have an informed opinion on Pearce, but while I don't have a problem with the individual picks for the Browns, I take issue with the vision. This team came into the draft with the makings of a potentially strong defense, just needs some gaps filled, but an offense in need of serious work, and it left this mock without much being accomplished. I don't think it's necessary to turn 2, 33, and 67 in to three starters but the balance should be on that side of the ball, especially if one of them is QB. This is a weak QB class, so any of them commanding significant capital will also require support around them. As is, Dart doesn't.

QB- Dart / Pickett
RB- Ford / Strong
WR- Jeudy / Tillman / Thrash / Woods / Carter
TE- Njoku / Whiteheart
OT- Conklin / Jones / Lucas
OG- Teller / Bitonio / Jenkins
C- Pocic / Wypler

And the strength, the OL, is old / fragile / expiring.

 

[rockaction]

With the #50 pick, the NY Giants select QB. Jalen Milroe. Milroe has huge upside, but needs to sit and learn for at least a year IMO. If I needed a QB now, I probably would have gone in a different direction. Since they already have Wilson and Winston, there is no preasure to play Milroe this year, which is the best situation for him IMO. This is Daboll's chance to show that he can develop a QB. He couldn't develop Jones and for some reason Schoen never drafted a QB in 3 years, despite Jones being a constant problem, so this is Daboll's 2nd chance. Given Milroe's upside and being in a situation to be patient with him, this is setting up Daboll for a good 2nd chance, and for Milroe to succeed.

This is the guy I had written up at 42 but couldn't pull the trigger. I just didn't think he looked even close to ready in highlights (which is not how to judge somebody, but if they don't look great in highlights . . .) and I felt like given the Jets' obvious needs that he was a luxury pick. Now, for you guys—you have Russ and Jameis to start games for you so he can sit and learn but I'm still worried that his mechanics and processing are so below average that it's maybe a lost cause.

But, and I mean but, I am not a good judge of quarterbacks. All I know is when it works and looks good that he must be good, which isn't necessarily the case at all. Anyway, I love this pick for you in the Giants' situation. He's a sick athlete.

 

[Stoneworker]

With pick #51, the Denver Broncos select:

Quinshon Judkins - RB - Ohio State

Value meets need.

With Judkins running behind fellow imaginary first rounder G. Zabel and an already solid O-Line, the Broncos should be able to give Bo Nix a more versatile and much improved running game in 2025.

 

[Largent]

Seattle Seahawks with the 52nd pick in the 2025 fake NFL draft, select Marcus Mbow (OG/T Purdue)

Played RT at Purdue his final year, but will be moved inside in Seattle - probably LG. Could play RT, and would viewed as more valuable by Seattle for that reason with Abe Lucas’s chronic knee.

I think he's the best pure mover in the draft, up there with the elite tackle prospects simply lacking their length and size. The speed of which he gets out of his stance and front foot out is top notch. Lateral ability and play strength is elite when moving and will be the ideal fit for the Kubiak zone blocking scheme. Hand meet glove.

Tate Ratledge would also been strongly considered, but not the same scheme fit as Mbow.

 

[Grahamburn]

2. 53 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Princely Umanmielen, EDGE, Ole Miss

 

[Ministry of Pain]

@Tau837 on deck for the Bolts
@Crippler after that for the Pack

Then it's MoP who is open to trading down if anyone wants to shoot me a PM
Cheers!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

2. 53 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Princely Umanmielen, EDGE, Ole Miss

That didn't take long
Bucs need some pass rush, this helps

 

[Grahamburn]

2. 53 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Princely Umanmielen, EDGE, Ole Miss

That didn't take long
Bucs need some pass rush, this helps

Yessir.

 

[Crippler]

2.54 Packers select Aireontae Ersery, OT, Minnesota

Walker was below average in grade last year. I know we just drafted Morgan but he is more inside. I love solidifying line and think this will help and injuries won’t be an issue. Might be overkill but other than Golden and if we keep Jaime, it is just depth and future we are looking for.

I had a CB (Porter) queued up if he was taken. In fact since pick 44, I had 5 guys I looked at and only Morrison taken. With 3 different positions. DL, was last choice because that position is very deep.

 

[daveR]

All four of my "next choice" got sniped. Bastards! With 2.whatever, 46 overall, the Browns select Xavier Watts, S, ND.

Hey @daveR, I'd like to say something if you'll indulge me. I had gently criticized your trade involving the 1.2 (potentially Travis Hunter) because I didn't think you got enough in return. Well, I did some diving into different charts that analytics guys in front offices use and there were at least two charts wherein if we're looking at raw picks and not assigning a player value to the deal, then you made out quite well.

One of the charts or valuation techniques is called the Fitzgerald-Spielberger point system and it had your net gain in value equivalent to the #21 pick overall in the draft. Another chart, the Harvard Trade Value Chart, had you gaining significant value and equaled what was equivalent to the #33 overall pick in the draft, which is a pretty nice pick.

Now, there are other charts that had you not getting as much value as you gave—and one had you giving value by quite a bit, but the existence of the aforementioned value charts is interesting to me and hopefully to you also.

So man, I apologize for publicly dissenting, even if it was a mild dissent with nothing personal behind it.

I still think Hunter is more than the valuation that the charts are assigning the #2 pick, but that's subjective.

Appreciate the kind words. OTOH, everybody is welcome to level whatever criticism they like. If I were to do it over again, I might well select Hunter.

You beefed up the line and added a guy with Pearce that can also help out Myles Garrett across from him
This should equal strength and ability to shut down the run plus bring some pressure
Do the Browns need some help in the secondary? Yes they do and you deliver with Watts to start the process.
You can't draft 2-3 guys at once and there are some other prospect at CB I like later in this draft that we won't get to because they likely are after the 3rd round

A Qb named Dart
Dart throws a Dart is gonna be a popular thing to say on the TV one day
I like his upside and you didn't stretch to get him, the Browns need more than Pickens, you likely are going ot be taking another QB in a better class int he future
Nothing to lose with this pick

I don't have an informed opinion on Pearce, but while I don't have a problem with the individual picks for the Browns, I take issue with the vision. This team came into the draft with the makings of a potentially strong defense, just needs some gaps filled, but an offense in need of serious work, and it left this mock without much being accomplished. I don't think it's necessary to turn 2, 33, and 67 in to three starters but the balance should be on that side of the ball, especially if one of them is QB. This is a weak QB class, so any of them commanding significant capital will also require support around them. As is, Dart doesn't.

QB- Dart / Pickett
RB- Ford / Strong
WR- Jeudy / Tillman / Thrash / Woods / Carter
TE- Njoku / Whiteheart
OT- Conklin / Jones / Lucas
OG- Teller / Bitonio / Jenkins
C- Pocic / Wypler

And the strength, the OL, is old / fragile / expiring.

I don't disagree. The offense can use help. The OL is decent when healthy, but it looks like the guards might need replacing soon & didn't they just shorten Conklin's contract? RB is nothing special right now, but there are some available. I wish I could have added a top WR, but they're tough to get unless you take Hunter at #2. Could also use a second / future TE. I decided to trade the 2 for additional 2nds, then back up for a top talent. All-in-all, I think I established a great DL for years to come, and added the QB we need. 46 didn't work out as well as I hoped, so I took a highly regarded DB. THAT part I would do differently. Lotsa fun, though!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Already have a pretty solid offer on 56 if i want to trade down


-this is the time fo the Draft where players slip and other teams want to jump up and snatch players higher on their lists

 

[Tau837]

With pick 55, the Chargers draft T.J. Sanders, IDL, South Carolina.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Trade details coming....

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Miami trades the #56 pic to Seattle for the #82, #92 and 4th year Cornerback Riq Woolen
Woolen is 6-4, 215 and made the Pro Bowl as a rookie, his shine has worn off a little the last two seasons but Miami is overhauling their secondary
Woolen and Barron will likely fill in alongside Ramsey, Starks is added into Safeties and Miami now has Kader Kohou, Cam Smith and Storm Duck in reserves
This will give Miami a ton of depth and with their 3 Edge rushers will make them tougher vs the pass

Miami now has 82, 92, 115, 132, 150 and 155 which may not sound like a lot to the avg fan but you all know better.
6 more picks and I have plenty of ammo now to chip away at some of their line issues on both sides in very deep classes even if the names aren't flashy

I am extremely happy with how things are turning out

 

[Largent]

Riq Woolen as MoP laid out, has lost some shine since he exploded on the scene as a rookie. His "business decisions" and bad angles to ball carriers was becoming glaring last year. The current CB market rate has become ridiculous and a fresh start to regain some of that effort will be best for both parties to move on from.

With that said, the Seattle Seahawks via trade with Miami select:

Shavon Revel Jr CB East Carolina

Revel Jr would’ve been a first round pick without the injury. I like his physicality, his mental make-up and his playing style. The Seahawks are clearly intrigued as he’s one of their official-30 visits.

Revel Jr’s understanding of scheme and the technical intricacies of his position when speaking during interviews is impressive. "Talks like a coach" I've heard. He’s clearly dedicated to his craft in a way Mike Macdonald will like, with a gritty backstory to boot. He could easily be one of Seattle’s key second round targets and locks in a young secondary with Emmanwori and Witherspoon.

This will conclude Seattle's participation in this mock. Used the amo to move up for players that are ideal fits for what I think Seattle needs and will be targeting. Round 4 will be targets for OT/OG types Chase Lundt, Wyatt Millum, Charles Grant if they last....so don't fret that Seattle doesn't have an o-line to speak of.

Enjoy the rest of the draft - will be checking in occasionally.

Thanks MoP for organizing!

 

[JetMaxx]

2. 53 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Princely Umanmielen, EDGE, Ole Miss

Great value pick. He was in consideration at 2.38. A guy with his size and skill set is rarely found at bottom half of rd 2

 

[-OZ-]

With the #50 pick, the NY Giants select QB. Jalen Milroe. Milroe has huge upside, but needs to sit and learn for at least a year IMO. If I needed a QB now, I probably would have gone in a different direction. Since they already have Wilson and Winston, there is no preasure to play Milroe this year, which is the best situation for him IMO. This is Daboll's chance to show that he can develop a QB. He couldn't develop Jones and for some reason Schoen never drafted a QB in 3 years, despite Jones being a constant problem, so this is Daboll's 2nd chance. Given Milroe's upside and being in a situation to be patient with him, this is setting up Daboll for a good 2nd chance, and for Milroe to succeed.

As much as I think he’ll bust, this is the perfect fit and will greatly increase my interest if it came to fruition.

 

[JetMaxx]

Riq Woolen as MoP laid out, has lost some shine since he exploded on the scene as a rookie. His "business decisions" and bad angles to ball carriers was becoming glaring last year. The current CB market rate has become ridiculous and a fresh start to regain some of that effort will be best for both parties to move on from.

With that said, the Seattle Seahawks via trade with Miami select:

Shavon Revel Jr CB East Carolina

Revel Jr would’ve been a first round pick without the injury. I like his physicality, his mental make-up and his playing style. The Seahawks are clearly intrigued as he’s one of their official-30 visits.

Revel Jr’s understanding of scheme and the technical intricacies of his position when speaking during interviews is impressive. "Talks like a coach" I've heard. He’s clearly dedicated to his craft in a way Mike Macdonald will like, with a gritty backstory to boot. He could easily be one of Seattle’s key second round targets and locks in a young secondary with Emmanwori and Witherspoon.

This will conclude Seattle's participation in this mock. Used the amo to move up for players that are ideal fits for what I think Seattle needs and will be targeting. Round 4 will be targets for OT/OG types Chase Lundt, Wyatt Millum, Charles Grant if they last....so don't fret that Seattle doesn't have an o-line to speak of.

Enjoy the rest of the draft - will be checking in occasionally.

Thanks MoP for organizing!

Nice try. See 1.24

 

[farfromforgotten]

Riq Woolen as MoP laid out, has lost some shine since he exploded on the scene as a rookie. His "business decisions" and bad angles to ball carriers was becoming glaring last year. The current CB market rate has become ridiculous and a fresh start to regain some of that effort will be best for both parties to move on from.

With that said, the Seattle Seahawks via trade with Miami select:

Shavon Revel Jr CB East Carolina

Revel Jr would’ve been a first round pick without the injury. I like his physicality, his mental make-up and his playing style. The Seahawks are clearly intrigued as he’s one of their official-30 visits.

Revel Jr’s understanding of scheme and the technical intricacies of his position when speaking during interviews is impressive. "Talks like a coach" I've heard. He’s clearly dedicated to his craft in a way Mike Macdonald will like, with a gritty backstory to boot. He could easily be one of Seattle’s key second round targets and locks in a young secondary with Emmanwori and Witherspoon.

This will conclude Seattle's participation in this mock. Used the amo to move up for players that are ideal fits for what I think Seattle needs and will be targeting. Round 4 will be targets for OT/OG types Chase Lundt, Wyatt Millum, Charles Grant if they last....so don't fret that Seattle doesn't have an o-line to speak of.

Enjoy the rest of the draft - will be checking in occasionally.

Thanks MoP for organizing!

Umm Revel was a first round pick. 24th to Minnesota.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Riq Woolen as MoP laid out, has lost some shine since he exploded on the scene as a rookie. His "business decisions" and bad angles to ball carriers was becoming glaring last year. The current CB market rate has become ridiculous and a fresh start to regain some of that effort will be best for both parties to move on from.

With that said, the Seattle Seahawks via trade with Miami select:

Shavon Revel Jr CB East Carolina

Revel Jr would’ve been a first round pick without the injury. I like his physicality, his mental make-up and his playing style. The Seahawks are clearly intrigued as he’s one of their official-30 visits.

Revel Jr’s understanding of scheme and the technical intricacies of his position when speaking during interviews is impressive. "Talks like a coach" I've heard. He’s clearly dedicated to his craft in a way Mike Macdonald will like, with a gritty backstory to boot. He could easily be one of Seattle’s key second round targets and locks in a young secondary with Emmanwori and Witherspoon.

This will conclude Seattle's participation in this mock. Used the amo to move up for players that are ideal fits for what I think Seattle needs and will be targeting. Round 4 will be targets for OT/OG types Chase Lundt, Wyatt Millum, Charles Grant if they last....so don't fret that Seattle doesn't have an o-line to speak of.

Enjoy the rest of the draft - will be checking in occasionally.

Thanks MoP for organizing!

Wait, he's gone already, think @Andy Dufresne took him for the Vikings

 

[Largent]

Haha….opps.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

With the #50 pick, the NY Giants select QB. Jalen Milroe. Milroe has huge upside, but needs to sit and learn for at least a year IMO. If I needed a QB now, I probably would have gone in a different direction. Since they already have Wilson and Winston, there is no preasure to play Milroe this year, which is the best situation for him IMO. This is Daboll's chance to show that he can develop a QB. He couldn't develop Jones and for some reason Schoen never drafted a QB in 3 years, despite Jones being a constant problem, so this is Daboll's 2nd chance. Given Milroe's upside and being in a situation to be patient with him, this is setting up Daboll for a good 2nd chance, and for Milroe to succeed.

He can take his time for a few weeks while Russ starts until he's ready or the Giants are close to elimination
Great landing spot, terrific pick

 

[Ministry of Pain]

In the good ole days we would see the #57 pic - Carolina run to the podium


What year was that? Vikings and Ravens involved?

 

[Largent]

Seattle having open competition with Josh Jobe and Coby Bryant for new corner spot....

Seattle selects center Jared Wilson Georgia.....womp womp

 

[Stoneworker]

While we're waiting, could someone more familiar with the draft than I am please explain the rules regarding the following?

In Rd 1, the Broncos have pick #20. I get how that was awarded based on WC finish, SOS, etc. However, in Rd 2 they have pick #19 (51st overall)...and in Rd 3 they have pick #21 (85h overall).

So why do the picks vary by round? FYI, the Broncos own all their original picks and have not obtained any via trade. And there are 32 slots in the first 3 rounds.

Similarly, Tampa Bay has picks 19, 21 (rd 2), and 20 (rd 3)

There seems to be some shifting within the WC and Divisional brackets but couldn't figure out what the formula is.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Revel has a visit scheduled with the Vikings,

 

[Instinctive]

So am i up? Nobody has @'d me, I see some confusion, i don't see pick 2.56 listed but maybe it's just in the text. Hard to tell here, we are getting a little disorganized yall.

 

[ZWK]

So am i up? Nobody has @'d me, I see some confusion, i don't see pick 2.56 listed but maybe it's just in the text. Hard to tell here, we are getting a little disorganized yall.

Yeah, you're up for Carolina at 57. Pick 56 was Jared Wilson.

 

[Instinctive]

if I'm not mistaken or mis-searching...it would appear that Azareye'h Thomas has fallen all the way down to here in our draft.

Carolina Panthers select Pick 2.57 Azareye'h Thomas, CB, Florida State

Came in thinking heavy defensive focus, need some pash rush and some coverage. Came away with my #2 pass rusher and #7 corner (really thought he may go late round 1). AZ can press well, blitz well, is BIG, tackles well in space, and he's got great timing and closing ability. We are trusting our coaching to avoid penalties early in some routes and need more guys like him with high football IQ.

Next up is @Buckna for the Houston Texas, I believe, followed by @Uruk-Hai of the Ravens.

 

[Ben & Jerry's]

While we're waiting, could someone more familiar with the draft than I am please explain the rules regarding the following?

In Rd 1, the Broncos have pick #20. I get how that was awarded based on WC finish, SOS, etc. However, in Rd 2 they have pick #19 (51st overall)...and in Rd 3 they have pick #21 (85h overall).

So why do the picks vary by round? FYI, the Broncos own all their original picks and have not obtained any via trade. And there are 32 slots in the first 3 rounds.

Similarly, Tampa Bay has picks 19, 21 (rd 2), and 20 (rd 3)

There seems to be some shifting within the WC and Divisional brackets but couldn't figure out what the formula is.

In the event of a tie in the NFL draft order, the team that picks first in a tied segment moves to the last pick of that segment in the next round, with all other teams in the segment moving up one spot, and this process continues from round to round.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• How it works:
  If multiple teams finish with the same record, the NFL uses a series of tiebreakers to determine draft order.
  
  • Strength of Schedule: The team that played the schedule with the lowest winning percentage is awarded the higher pick.
    
    
  • Head-to-Head: If applicable, the team with the best record against the other teams in the tie is given preference.
    
    
  • Conference Record: The team with the best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference is given preference.
    
    
  • Common Games: The team with the best won-lost-tied percentage in common games (minimum of four) is given preference.
    
    
  • Strength of Victory: The team with the highest strength of victory is given preference.
    
    
  • Strength of Schedule: The team with the highest strength of schedule is given preference.
    
    
  • Points Scored/Allowed: The team with the best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed is given preference.
    
    
  • Net Points: The team with the best net points in conference games is given preference.
    
    
  • Net Touchdowns: The team with the best net touchdowns in all games is given preference.
    
    
  • Coin Toss: As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the draft order.
    
• Tied Segment Movement:
  Once draft order is determined, the team that picks first in a tied segment moves to the last pick of that segment in the next round, with all other teams in the segment moving up one spot.
  
  
• Example:
  If teams A, B, and C are tied, and team A picks first in the first round, in the second round, team A picks last in the segment, team B picks first, and team C picks second.
  
  
• Playoff Teams:
  Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs.
  
  
• Wild Card Playoff Teams:
  Within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in another playoff round.

 

[Stoneworker]

While we're waiting, could someone more familiar with the draft than I am please explain the rules regarding the following?

In Rd 1, the Broncos have pick #20. I get how that was awarded based on WC finish, SOS, etc. However, in Rd 2 they have pick #19 (51st overall)...and in Rd 3 they have pick #21 (85h overall).

So why do the picks vary by round? FYI, the Broncos own all their original picks and have not obtained any via trade. And there are 32 slots in the first 3 rounds.

Similarly, Tampa Bay has picks 19, 21 (rd 2), and 20 (rd 3)

There seems to be some shifting within the WC and Divisional brackets but couldn't figure out what the formula is.

In the event of a tie in the NFL draft order, the team that picks first in a tied segment moves to the last pick of that segment in the next round, with all other teams in the segment moving up one spot, and this process continues from round to round.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• How it works:
  If multiple teams finish with the same record, the NFL uses a series of tiebreakers to determine draft order.
  • Strength of Schedule: The team that played the schedule with the lowest winning percentage is awarded the higher pick.
    
    
  • Head-to-Head: If applicable, the team with the best record against the other teams in the tie is given preference.
    
    
  • Conference Record: The team with the best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference is given preference.
    
    
  • Common Games: The team with the best won-lost-tied percentage in common games (minimum of four) is given preference.
    
    
  • Strength of Victory: The team with the highest strength of victory is given preference.
    
    
  • Strength of Schedule: The team with the highest strength of schedule is given preference.
    
    
  • Points Scored/Allowed: The team with the best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed is given preference.
    
    
  • Net Points: The team with the best net points in conference games is given preference.
    
    
  • Net Touchdowns: The team with the best net touchdowns in all games is given preference.
    
    
  • Coin Toss: As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the draft order.
• Tied Segment Movement:
  Once draft order is determined, the team that picks first in a tied segment moves to the last pick of that segment in the next round, with all other teams in the segment moving up one spot.
  
  
• Example:
  If teams A, B, and C are tied, and team A picks first in the first round, in the second round, team A picks last in the segment, team B picks first, and team C picks second.
  
  
• Playoff Teams:
  Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs.
  
  
• Wild Card Playoff Teams:
  Within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in another playoff round.

Great explanation. Thanks for taking the time.

 

[Ben & Jerry's]

While we're waiting, could someone more familiar with the draft than I am please explain the rules regarding the following?

In Rd 1, the Broncos have pick #20. I get how that was awarded based on WC finish, SOS, etc. However, in Rd 2 they have pick #19 (51st overall)...and in Rd 3 they have pick #21 (85h overall).

So why do the picks vary by round? FYI, the Broncos own all their original picks and have not obtained any via trade. And there are 32 slots in the first 3 rounds.

Similarly, Tampa Bay has picks 19, 21 (rd 2), and 20 (rd 3)

There seems to be some shifting within the WC and Divisional brackets but couldn't figure out what the formula is.

In the event of a tie in the NFL draft order, the team that picks first in a tied segment moves to the last pick of that segment in the next round, with all other teams in the segment moving up one spot, and this process continues from round to round.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• How it works:
  If multiple teams finish with the same record, the NFL uses a series of tiebreakers to determine draft order.
  • Strength of Schedule: The team that played the schedule with the lowest winning percentage is awarded the higher pick.
    
    
  • Head-to-Head: If applicable, the team with the best record against the other teams in the tie is given preference.
    
    
  • Conference Record: The team with the best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference is given preference.
    
    
  • Common Games: The team with the best won-lost-tied percentage in common games (minimum of four) is given preference.
    
    
  • Strength of Victory: The team with the highest strength of victory is given preference.
    
    
  • Strength of Schedule: The team with the highest strength of schedule is given preference.
    
    
  • Points Scored/Allowed: The team with the best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed is given preference.
    
    
  • Net Points: The team with the best net points in conference games is given preference.
    
    
  • Net Touchdowns: The team with the best net touchdowns in all games is given preference.
    
    
  • Coin Toss: As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the draft order.
• Tied Segment Movement:
  Once draft order is determined, the team that picks first in a tied segment moves to the last pick of that segment in the next round, with all other teams in the segment moving up one spot.
  
  
• Example:
  If teams A, B, and C are tied, and team A picks first in the first round, in the second round, team A picks last in the segment, team B picks first, and team C picks second.
  
  
• Playoff Teams:
  Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs.
  
  
• Wild Card Playoff Teams:
  Within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in another playoff round.

Great explanation. Thanks for taking the time.

Thanks. It was too complicated to summarize so I just copied it

 

[Buckna]

Houston Texans select Pick 2.58 Wyatt Milam IOL.

A bit early for him perhaps, but I doubt he's there for my next pick. I am committed to Houston addressing their currently makeshift offensive line but this mock went heavy on the o'line and he was the next best prospect I came across researching. While Milam played pretty much exclusively left and right tackle, his testing seems to indicate he'll most likely be a guard at the next level. As mentioned in my previous pick, HOU does love guys with position flexibility so they could potentially try Milam out at T but I think he likely ends up as a guard but gives them some tackle insurance. He's a great run blocker and held up well in pass-blocking not giving up a single sack in 4 years at LT for WVU. From the scouting report I read, he held up well against Abdul Carter (although it was just for one half before cramping pulled him out.) There are a couple of other position groups I considered instead here (as well as an offered trade down) but those player pools are fairly deep still and HOU has two picks in the 3rd to see what's still there.

@Uruk-Hai is up next for the Ravens

 

[MAC_32]

I don't disagree. The offense can use help. The OL is decent when healthy, but it looks like the guards might need replacing soon & didn't they just shorten Conklin's contract? RB is nothing special right now, but there are some available. I wish I could have added a top WR, but they're tough to get unless you take Hunter at #2. Could also use a second / future TE. I decided to trade the 2 for additional 2nds, then back up for a top talent. All-in-all, I think I established a great DL for years to come, and added the QB we need. 46 didn't work out as well as I hoped, so I took a highly regarded DB. THAT part I would do differently. Lotsa fun, though!

Yes, Conklin accepted a pay cut and in exchange becomes a free agent at season's end. The only starter right now under contract next season is Jones and all of those expiring are 30+. Cannot leave the first two days of this draft with no OL nor offensive play makers. Much more so for 2026 and beyond, not 2025.

 

[rockaction]

@Joe Schmo, too

 

[Bri]

We're trading players now?
Gimme a pick for each of Chig, Levis, and Spears