FBG Mock Draft (1 Viewer)

[Chaos34]

Agreed. There's 4 OLs, I'll be eyeballing with priority for Rd 1, and not the often reported top 3, so it's likely. If they all fall, RD 2 may be smarter and BPA for RD 1. There's some pretty sure things at IOL that should be available. It's much deeper than BigDraft and the draftnik community thinks. I might take two. I'm an OL junkie. It wasn't the triplets that made the 90s so good. It was that OL.

As many as 5 of the 8 teams drafting 13th (LV) to 21st (MIA) could draft oline. Plus 2 who might go earlier (Alt+). If Miami's or Dallas' preferred oline players are gone, what will they do? A Miami trade down is possible given the lack of a 3rd or 4th.

Yup. That's 7. The number I covet for a Dallas 1st rounder. I suspect one will fall. It will depend on trades and cornerbacks, I think. I've seen many drafts where all 7 are gone and that always causes a very good player to fall to Dallas. I wouldn't trade away from it. I would take the value. I'm super confident in a 2nd round OL. I have no idea what Dallas will do irl. I keep seeing them taking a WR there. I might. I don't think they will. I think the 1st round will see much more trade movement than 99% of mocks.

Here's a 4 rounder with 5 trades in the 1st. Of course, a wr for Dallas. He's not getting them all right, nobody will, but I think 5 is realistic. That mock also goes 4qbs in the 1st 4 picks. Many are now expecting that. Our mock here may have already kicked that idea to the curb. This is such a fun draft class.

 

[Chaos34]

Also, if you're doing one of the teams expected to move up for QB, it's a good time to start considering your offer. If no one takes AZ, I'm doing them and open to trading down. Also also, don't let my name next to AZ discourage you. They're not mine until this starts. Take 'em if you want 'em. They have a bunch of picks and could trade down for more.

 

[travdogg]

Also, if you're doing one of the teams expected to move up for QB, it's a good time to start considering your offer. If no one takes AZ, I'm doing them and open to trading down. Also also, don't let my name next to AZ discourage you. They're not mine until this starts. Take 'em if you want 'em. They have a bunch of picks and could trade down for more.

I'll take Arizona if that's cool.

I will say that I LOVE Marvin Harrison (best WR prospect since Calvin in my opinion) so if he's there at #4, I'd want A LOT to move down.

 

[Chaos34]

Also, if you're doing one of the teams expected to move up for QB, it's a good time to start considering your offer. If no one takes AZ, I'm doing them and open to trading down. Also also, don't let my name next to AZ discourage you. They're not mine until this starts. Take 'em if you want 'em. They have a bunch of picks and could trade down for more.

I'll take Arizona if that's cool.

I will say that I LOVE Marvin Harrison (best WR prospect since Calvin in my opinion) so if he's there at #4, I'd want A LOT to move down.

I think you're perfect for them, so way cool.

 

[Gatorade]

Agreed. There's 4 OLs, I'll be eyeballing with priority for Rd 1, and not the often reported top 3, so it's likely. If they all fall, RD 2 may be smarter and BPA for RD 1. There's some pretty sure things at IOL that should be available. It's much deeper than BigDraft and the draftnik community thinks. I might take two. I'm an OL junkie. It wasn't the triplets that made the 90s so good. It was that OL.

As many as 5 of the 8 teams drafting 13th (LV) to 21st (MIA) could draft oline. Plus 2 who might go earlier (Alt+). If Miami's or Dallas' preferred oline players are gone, what will they do? A Miami trade down is possible given the lack of a 3rd or 4th.

Yup. That's 7. The number I covet for a Dallas 1st rounder. I suspect one will fall. It will depend on trades and cornerbacks, I think. I've seen many drafts where all 7 are gone and that always causes a very good player to fall to Dallas. I wouldn't trade away from it. I would take the value. I'm super confident in a 2nd round OL. I have no idea what Dallas will do irl. I keep seeing them taking a WR there. I might. I don't think they will. I think the 1st round will see much more trade movement than 99% of mocks.

Here's a 4 rounder with 5 trades in the 1st. Of course, a wr for Dallas. He's not getting them all right, nobody will, but I think 5 is realistic. That mock also goes 4qbs in the 1st 4 picks. Many are now expecting that. Our mock here may have already kicked that idea to the curb. This is such a fun draft class.

I just can't see WR in first round as deep as this class is. Especially passing up the chance at a starting O lineman for a decade. I think we need a starting C and T. Plenty of WR in 2nd and 3rd. RBs in 3rd. Not sure how the run D philosophy will change with new DC, but it does need to be addressed. With a MLB, DT or just fatten up Mazi. I do miss JJ from those 90s teams.

 

[IHEARTFF]

I can help with Kc picks if needed

 

[Ben & Jerry's]

I'll take Arizona since Chaos34 already has Dallas

 

[travdogg]

I'll take Arizona since Chaos34 already has Dallas

I think I beat you to them, it just wasn't updated yet.

 

[Chaos34]

I'll take Arizona since Chaos34 already has Dallas

Travdogg beat you to them, but take a team please. Not much left. I'd like to see us start tomorrow as scheduled.

 

[RC94]

It looks like the only remaining team is CLE.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It looks like the only remaining team is CLE.

@MAC_32
@Bracie Smathers
Both are usually posting in the Browns' thread

 

[Grahamburn]

It looks like the only remaining team is CLE.

@MAC_32
@Bracie Smathers
Both are usually posting in the Browns' thread

No 1st rounder. They don't pick until 54th. I don't think we need to wait around to fill their spot? This thing usually dies before the 3rd round anyway. If nothing else we can drop a consensus pick @54 to keep it moving or trade it for a new massage table for DeShaun.

 

[Hankmoody]

It looks like the only remaining team is CLE.

@MAC_32
@Bracie Smathers
Both are usually posting in the Browns' thread

I'll take CLE if these homers don't want. I defer to them though it they want to swoop in later. Been an Ohio boy all my life and always paid attention to and rooted for the home teams when the Raiders weren't involved.

 

[Biabreakable]

We used to do a mock draft where we each take an NFL team and we select players for the 1st 3 rounds of the NFL draft. Are you guys interested in doing that? If so, I'll take the Giants. Here is sign up:

When posting a selection, please post it like this so I can copy and paste it into the summary posts:
Chicago Bears
1.01 -- QB. Caleb Williams, USC
Please bold the team name and player name too, like above. Please also write an explanation of the pick if you want. Please also @ whoever is picking next so we can keep it moving.

Here's a list of the rookies available and their rankings by CBS. It should be helpful to those who don't know much about the rookies beyond the mainstream ones everyone is talking about. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/.

Arizona Cardinals - Chaos34 (2nd team - if someone else wants it let us know)
Atlanta Falcons - Ministry of Pain
Baltimore Ravens - Uruk-Hai
Buffalo Bills
Carolina Panthers - Birdie048
Chicago Bears - ZWK
Cincinnati Bengals - QuizGuy66 and eighsse2
Cleveland Browns
Dallas Cowboys - Chaos34
Denver Broncos - bro1ncos
Detroit Lions - Ilov80s
Green Bay Packers - Crippler
Houston Texans - JoeSteeler
Indianapolis Colts - smbkrypt24
Jacksonville Jaguars- Streetduck
Kansas City Chiefs
Las Vegas Raiders - LawFitz
Los Angeles Chargers - Zow
Los Angeles Rams - Wigglytuff's Gruff
Miami Dolphins - SoBeDad
Minnesota Vikings - FunkyPlutos
New England Patriots - SeniorVBDStudent
New Orleans Saints - TheWinz
New York Giants - RC94
New York Jets - Mphtrilogy
Philadelphia Eagles - Long Ball Larry
Pittsburgh Steelers - steelcityman
San Francisco 49ers - efactor
Seattle Seahawks - Duckboy
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Grahamburn
Tennessee Titans - -OZ-
Washington Commanders - Harjiran

Love that y'all are doing this. Could be great content.

If we can add a couple of things, I can see this being something we could promote on social media to a larger audience.

1. Could you make at least a sentence or two explaining the pick as a mandatory part of the content? The explanation is every bit as important as the actual pick.
2. For each drafter, a 2 or 3-sentence bio on who you are. Would give a ton of context for readers.

I don't really like this. None of us are professional draftniks and many don't know much about players beyond the projected 1st round picks. I don't want to provide a bio either. This was just supposed to be for fun.

Ok, Nevermind then. Thought this would be a fun opportunity to share the expertise from the board with more people and highlight the posters here. We used to do quite a bit of that and thought it might be fun to bring back.

No worries.

It's your website so you can do what you want, but I can tell you that the explanation for some picks is going to be along the lines of this - "I don't know much about this specific player but the point to this pick is that I wanted an offensive lineman here." Not sure how that's useful content, but I can see promoting the board in general and the kind of discussion and fun we have here.

No worries. You guys do what you were doing here as you planned. Zero interest in trying to promote anything people don't like.

I was just thinking about how many sharp people we have here and was thinking of a fun way to highlight folks to a bigger audience. As you know, we used to do a lot of that.

Some of the folks on our Footballguys Discord had been talking about doing something like this and we can look there at something maybe.

I think its a good idea Joe.

The drafters may be ignorant about these players to varying degrees but they have a reason for why they picked player x over their other options.

I don't think it's a lot of work to do that. Just be honest. If you took the guy because you like the college team colors or whatever its still a reason.

Some may see it as so though.

 

[Chaos34]

@Harjiran

You're on the clock. The destiny of Washington is in your hands. Seems there's 3 potential franchise qbs in play. Choose wisely and tell us why.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Atlanta Falcons at No 8
I will be away until later this afternoon but I will try and check in via the phone.
Cheers!

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Just a heads up on my weekday schedule: I am rarely available evenings and nights. If you guys are rolling and I'm not around, someone else is welcome to make the Ravens' pick to keep things moving.

In general, I expect Baltimore to concentrate on (in no particular order): CB, EDGE, OL (lots of OL), and WR. They probably also look at add depth on DL at some point and I expect they will add a RB & QB (though that could be an undrafted rookie). The Ravens have 9 picks (2 each in rounds 4 & 7)

 

[RC94]

The Giants are open to trading the #6 pick.

 

[Gatorade]

I saw a recent mock having Latu falling to Dallas. Not one of the biggest needs, but it would be hard to pass up a player like this.

 

[skol asylum]

I was thinking about an idea I read recently about Minnesota possibly trying to position themselves with TWO more trade ups. Would be interesting to see that play out here. Maybe for example 11 and 23 are enough to get to 5 with SD. Then move to 3 to get their QB (not sure what to offer to move 2 spots.) but it goes QB, QB, and QB to Minnesota and WR to the Cards, NE still gets top 4 QB at 5 plus an extra value. They may be more amenable to that move than dropping to 11. Other similar moves may work with Washington?

 

[Brunell4MVP]

The Commanders' #2 overall pick is currently available for trade - serious offers only please.

I will give you Bryce Young and David Tepper for the 1.02

Lessons learned from Bryce Young are why the Commanders are trying to move down in the first place. MN needs a QB badly - make me an offer man!

If you don't get four #1s from them, this draft has already lost it's way. #11, #23, 2025 #1 and 2026 #1. Otherwise this pick is Maye or Daniels.

 

[Biabreakable]

The Commanders' #2 overall pick is currently available for trade - serious offers only please.

I will give you Bryce Young and David Tepper for the 1.02

Lessons learned from Bryce Young are why the Commanders are trying to move down in the first place. MN needs a QB badly - make me an offer man!

If you don't get four #1s from them, this draft has already lost it's way. #11, #23, 2025 #1 and 2026 #1. Otherwise this pick is Maye or Daniels.

Its not my call but the Vikings should NOT do that.

So pick your guy.

 

[Grahamburn]

Moving right along I see.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Moving right along I see.

Holding at No 2...

 

[Grahamburn]

We're gonna need a clock if it keeps going like this. @Harjiran

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

We're gonna need a clock if it keeps going like this. @Harjiran

He was last seen 6 minutes ago perusing this thread (!).

 

[Harjiran]

Washington Commanders
1.02 -- QB Drake Maye, UNC

I've gone back and forth between Maye and Daniels for several weeks and even attempted to trade down at one point, but in the end it's Maye, who feels like a safer pick than Daniels and gives me strong Justin Herbert vibes. After a long, sad history of whiffing badly on first round QBs, it's critical that Washington get their franchise QB to kick off the Josh Harris/Adam Peters era. Hopefully they finally manage to do that with Maye.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

I was thinking about an idea I read recently about Minnesota possibly trying to position themselves with TWO more trade ups. Would be interesting to see that play out here. Maybe for example 11 and 23 are enough to get to 5 with SD. Then move to 3 to get their QB (not sure what to offer to move 2 spots.) but it goes QB, QB, and QB to Minnesota and WR to the Cards, NE still gets top 4 QB at 5 plus an extra value. They may be more amenable to that move than dropping to 11. Other similar moves may work with Washington?

Here is a link to a position value estimator for the draft (I'm sure there are several). You can use it to ballpark whether an offer is "fair".....

linkage

 

[MAC_32]

It looks like the only remaining team is CLE.

@MAC_32
@Bracie Smathers
Both are usually posting in the Browns' thread

Thanks, but I'll pass. Been unusually disengaged from all things draft. May catch up in April, but not something I thought about til getting @'d here.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

My options for the three spot were, in order,

1. find a trade partner to trade down to 5 or 6 hoping to get OT Alt (no luck).
2. Daniels
3. Harrison

I was resigned to taking Harrison as I thought Daniels would go at 2....with a slim chance it would be Harrison at 2. Seeing Maye go at 2 was a surprise, but a reasonable pick...I'm just not a big fan of Maye.

New England Patriots
1.03 -- QB Jayden Daniels, LSU

 

[Chaos34]

Washington Commanders
1.02 -- QB Drake Maye, UNC

I've gone back and forth between Maye and Daniels for several weeks and even attempted to trade down at one point, but in the end it's Maye, who feels like a safer pick than Daniels and gives me strong Justin Herbert vibes. After a long, sad history of whiffing badly on first round QBs, it's critical that Washington get their franchise QB to kick off the Josh Harris/Adam Peters era. Hopefully they finally manage to do that with Maye.

I prefer Daniels, but what do I know? I like his wheels not just moving the chains, but flipping the field. I like his experience making him making him ready in year 1. Maye is a very underrated runner though, and maybe they'll get him up to speed so young. With guys like Chase Daniel and Kurt Warner nitpicking Maye the really thorough scouting department Bleacher Report's put together refuses to budge. They take him here too. Cecil and Sigmund think he needs to sit for a year. That's pretty much always ideal, imo. The arm talent is ridiculous for sure. Carves the air.

 

[travdogg]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

 

[Grahamburn]

And we're off!

 

[Chaos34]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

With this pick, I think it's fair to give you some time for possible offers, but your love for Harrison here is a really good fit soooo...
Just sayin', no hurry.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

@FunkyPlutos

 

[LawFitz]

A bit early here with the 13th pick still a ways away, but if anyone later in round 1 is interested in trading up to that pick, I'm interested in potentially moving down. All reasonable offers - based on the trade value chart linked a couple posts above - will be considered.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

With this pick, I think it's fair to give you some time for possible offers, but your love for Harrison here is a really good fit soooo...
Just sayin', no hurry.

Obviously this is just for fun, so maybe we can discuss it? What's it take to get to this spot for the Vikings? For the Giants? If I'm AZ I'm really tempted to do a deal with the Giants here.

 

[Harjiran]

Washington Commanders
1.02 -- QB Drake Maye, UNC

I've gone back and forth between Maye and Daniels for several weeks and even attempted to trade down at one point, but in the end it's Maye, who feels like a safer pick than Daniels and gives me strong Justin Herbert vibes. After a long, sad history of whiffing badly on first round QBs, it's critical that Washington get their franchise QB to kick off the Josh Harris/Adam Peters era. Hopefully they finally manage to do that with Maye.

I prefer Daniels, but what do I know? I like his wheels not just moving the chains, but flipping the field. I like his experience making him making him ready in year 1. Maye is a very underrated runner though, and maybe they'll get him up to speed so young. With guys like Chase Daniel and Kurt Warner nitpicking Maye the really thorough scouting department Bleacher Report's put together refuses to budge. They take him here too. Cecil and Sigmund think he needs to sit for a year. That's pretty much always ideal, imo. The arm talent is ridiculous for sure. Carves the air.

If I had done this draft last week, it probably would've been Daniels. I like his game a lot. Not sure what the experts are seeing or not seeing with Maye, to me he looks like an NFL QB who needs to work on a few things like most college players do. Maybe because he played for UNC with a lesser level of competition? If so, I don't think that should be held against him. If I have to nitpick, Daniels seems RG3-level skinny and I hold my breath every time he takes off. He's got sick wheels but will he last? Once burned, twice shy if I'm being honest.

 

[RC94]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

With this pick, I think it's fair to give you some time for possible offers, but your love for Harrison here is a really good fit soooo...
Just sayin', no hurry.

Obviously this is just for fun, so maybe we can discuss it? What's it take to get to this spot for the Vikings? For the Giants? If I'm AZ I'm really tempted to do a deal with the Giants here.

If Daniels or Maye fall to 1.04 I can see the Giants trading up but otherwise I don't think they do.

 

[travdogg]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

With this pick, I think it's fair to give you some time for possible offers, but your love for Harrison here is a really good fit soooo...
Just sayin', no hurry.

Obviously this is just for fun, so maybe we can discuss it? What's it take to get to this spot for the Vikings? For the Giants? If I'm AZ I'm really tempted to do a deal with the Giants here.

My offer to Minnesota was #11, #23, and a 2025 1st for #4 and a 2025 2nd. I don't think just the two 1sts this year is enough. I know it is by the trade chart, but that doesn't factor in the caliber prospect Harrison is.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

With this pick, I think it's fair to give you some time for possible offers, but your love for Harrison here is a really good fit soooo...
Just sayin', no hurry.

Obviously this is just for fun, so maybe we can discuss it? What's it take to get to this spot for the Vikings? For the Giants? If I'm AZ I'm really tempted to do a deal with the Giants here.

If Daniels or Maye fall to 1.04 I can see the Giants trading up but otherwise I don't think they do.

I think Jones is on borrowed time and the G-Men are going to be all over J.J.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

With this pick, I think it's fair to give you some time for possible offers, but your love for Harrison here is a really good fit soooo...
Just sayin', no hurry.

Obviously this is just for fun, so maybe we can discuss it? What's it take to get to this spot for the Vikings? For the Giants? If I'm AZ I'm really tempted to do a deal with the Giants here.

My offer to Minnesota was #11, #23, and a 2025 1st for #4 and a 2025 2nd. I don't think just the two 1sts this year is enough. I know it is by the trade chart, but that doesn't factor in the caliber prospect Harrison is.

There's always a little premium paid when the move up is for a QB, and I'd agree about Harrison. A move back to #11 probably takes AZ out of the elite WR party. Although Odunze may still be there.

That's a lot to give up for the 4th QB off the board.

 

[LawFitz]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

With this pick, I think it's fair to give you some time for possible offers, but your love for Harrison here is a really good fit soooo...
Just sayin', no hurry.

Obviously this is just for fun, so maybe we can discuss it? What's it take to get to this spot for the Vikings? For the Giants? If I'm AZ I'm really tempted to do a deal with the Giants here.

My offer to Minnesota was #11, #23, and a 2025 1st for #4 and a 2025 2nd. I don't think just the two 1sts this year is enough. I know it is by the trade chart, but that doesn't factor in the caliber prospect Harrison is.

The bolded is the factor by which all trade value charts go wayside - especially since MIN may not be trading up for Harrison. Not saying a specific, unique prospect isn't a real or legit factor to be considered - it's just such a wildcard along either side of the equation.

 

[LawFitz]

A couple questions without expectation, just curiosity, so I can plan my attendance of this thread accordingly...

How many rounds are we looking to draft? I see up to rd 3 in one of the original posts. Is that the targeted end?

Are we going to have a pick clock at any point? If so, how long, and what's the protocol if someone misses the limit?

 

[Biabreakable]

It looks like the only remaining team is CLE.

@MAC_32
@Bracie Smathers
Both are usually posting in the Browns' thread

Thanks, but I'll pass. Been unusually disengaged from all things draft. May catch up in April, but not something I thought about til getting @'d here.

Hi MAC.

I don't think you have missed much.

 

[skol asylum]

Washington Commanders
1.02 -- QB Drake Maye, UNC

I've gone back and forth between Maye and Daniels for several weeks and even attempted to trade down at one point, but in the end it's Maye, who feels like a safer pick than Daniels and gives me strong Justin Herbert vibes. After a long, sad history of whiffing badly on first round QBs, it's critical that Washington get their franchise QB to kick off the Josh Harris/Adam Peters era. Hopefully they finally manage to do that with Maye.

I prefer Daniels, but what do I know? I like his wheels not just moving the chains, but flipping the field. I like his experience making him making him ready in year 1. Maye is a very underrated runner though, and maybe they'll get him up to speed so young. With guys like Chase Daniel and Kurt Warner nitpicking Maye the really thorough scouting department Bleacher Report's put together refuses to budge. They take him here too. Cecil and Sigmund think he needs to sit for a year. That's pretty much always ideal, imo. The arm talent is ridiculous for sure. Carves the air.

If I had done this draft last week, it probably would've been Daniels. I like his game a lot. Not sure what the experts are seeing or not seeing with Maye, to me he looks like an NFL QB who needs to work on a few things like most college players do. Maybe because he played for UNC with a lesser level of competition? If so, I don't think that should be held against him. If I have to nitpick, Daniels seems RG3-level skinny and I hold my breath every time he takes off. He's got sick wheels but will he last? Once burned, twice shy if I'm being honest.

I don't follow college ball at all but some of the analysis I heard said Daniels rarely threw in the middle of the field in college. Not that he can't do it but it was usually either vertical or to the sidelines. That was one reason given why Minnesota may be hesitant to look his way because KOC loves to attack the middle of the field.

 

[Grahamburn]

A couple questions without expectation, just curiosity, so I can plan my attendance of this thread accordingly...

How many rounds are we looking to draft? I see up to rd 3 in one of the original posts. Is that the targeted end?

Are we going to have a pick clock at any point? If so, how long, and what's the protocol if someone misses the limit?

In years past interest and attentiveness typically wanes toward the end of the 3rd round.

I’m all for a clock, but I’m here all day every day. Others’ hours may be very different.

I do think it helps to @ whoever is next after a pick is made.

 

[Biabreakable]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

@FunkyPlutos

Funky told me he doesn't want to pay the ridiculous prices being asked for to trade up and would rather stand pat.

So save the carney act.

 

[skol asylum]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

With this pick, I think it's fair to give you some time for possible offers, but your love for Harrison here is a really good fit soooo...
Just sayin', no hurry.

Obviously this is just for fun, so maybe we can discuss it? What's it take to get to this spot for the Vikings? For the Giants? If I'm AZ I'm really tempted to do a deal with the Giants here.

My offer to Minnesota was #11, #23, and a 2025 1st for #4 and a 2025 2nd. I don't think just the two 1sts this year is enough. I know it is by the trade chart, but that doesn't factor in the caliber prospect Harriso

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

With this pick, I think it's fair to give you some time for possible offers, but your love for Harrison here is a really good fit soooo...
Just sayin', no hurry.

Obviously this is just for fun, so maybe we can discuss it? What's it take to get to this spot for the Vikings? For the Giants? If I'm AZ I'm really tempted to do a deal with the Giants here.

My offer to Minnesota was #11, #23, and a 2025 1st for #4 and a 2025 2nd. I don't think just the two 1sts this year is enough. I know it is by the trade chart, but that doesn't factor in the caliber prospect Harrison is.

Yeah that's not happening because MN knows you want the WR and they can get JJ at 5 for a cheaper price.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm gonna give it a few minutes to anyone who wants to trade up to #4, otherwise the pick will be coming soon.

@FunkyPlutos

Funky told me he doesn't want to pay the ridiculous prices being asked for to trade up and would rather stand pat.

So save the carney act.

Whoa.