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FBG'S TOP 100 PINK FLOYD SONGS - #01 - Comfortably Numb from The Wall (1979) (2 Viewers)

No offense to anyone, but it makes no sense to say post-Waters Floyd material doesn’t sound like Pink Floyd. The band can sound like whatever they want. The prime 70s material sounded very little like the Syd Barrett material. Was not that the real Floyd sound either?
There’s a difference between a band finding it’s way early in their careers - especially when a key member is being replaced by a very different musician who would become a key member - and a band “phoning it in” after their peak.

To me it makes perfect sense. Those post- Waters albums can be considered Gilmour solo albums which isn’t “real” Floyd. I mean those albums were just Gilmour and Mason as official members - and my guess is no one would notice if Mason wasn’t involved.
Wright was an official member again when writing and producing The Division Bell, and he’s all over that record.
The point still remains. Hopefully now you can understand the people that “make no sense” a little better at least.
 
No offense to anyone, but it makes no sense to say post-Waters Floyd material doesn’t sound like Pink Floyd. The band can sound like whatever they want. The prime 70s material sounded very little like the Syd Barrett material. Was not that the real Floyd sound either?
No offense, but different things can make sense to different people.
For sure, RW sells out solo shows. He obviously has a huge fan base.
Roger sells a lot of tickets because fans know he’s gonna play a ton of classic Floyd songs. When he toured on just his solo material back in the day, he struggled big time to sell tickets.
 
No offense to anyone, but it makes no sense to say post-Waters Floyd material doesn’t sound like Pink Floyd. The band can sound like whatever they want. The prime 70s material sounded very little like the Syd Barrett material. Was not that the real Floyd sound either?

To me it makes perfect sense. Those post- Waters albums can be considered Gilmour solo albums which isn’t “real” Floyd. I mean those albums were just Gilmour and Mason as official members - and my guess is no one would notice if Mason wasn’t involved.
Where was Richard Wright during AMLOR and Division Bell? I didn't realize he wasn't involved.
He’s on AMLOR as a session musician not a band member.
 
No offense to anyone, but it makes no sense to say post-Waters Floyd material doesn’t sound like Pink Floyd. The band can sound like whatever they want. The prime 70s material sounded very little like the Syd Barrett material. Was not that the real Floyd sound either?
There were 33 rankers . . . 16 of them did not vote for a Syd era song. Maybe that would have been different if we voted for 40 songs instead of 25, who knows? But @Dwayne Hoover @BrutalPenguin @Rand al Thor and @Anarchy99 did not vote for a Syd era song OR a Dave era song. So to us, yes, the start and end of the band were different enough that we liked all our selections in the 1968-1983 era exclusively. I can't speak for anyone else, but I liked the RW-DG-NM-RW era the best. Sure, some of the material produced in that time isn't great or also has a different sound than the peak period songs. I own Ummagumma but I haven't touched it in 40 years. I've listened to AMLOR, TDB, and APATGOD way more in that time. We can all listen to and enjoy different things. It doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it any more, less, or the same. We like what we like.
 
No offense to anyone, but it makes no sense to say post-Waters Floyd material doesn’t sound like Pink Floyd. The band can sound like whatever they want. The prime 70s material sounded very little like the Syd Barrett material. Was not that the real Floyd sound either?

To me it makes perfect sense. Those post- Waters albums can be considered Gilmour solo albums which isn’t “real” Floyd. I mean those albums were just Gilmour and Mason as official members - and my guess is no one would notice if Mason wasn’t involved.
Where was Richard Wright during AMLOR and Division Bell? I didn't realize he wasn't involved.
He’s on AMLOR as a session musician not a band member.
What's the difference, lol. Did he play? I could care about contracts, I just want great music.
 
No offense to anyone, but it makes no sense to say post-Waters Floyd material doesn’t sound like Pink Floyd. The band can sound like whatever they want. The prime 70s material sounded very little like the Syd Barrett material. Was not that the real Floyd sound either?
There’s a difference between a band finding it’s way early in their careers - especially when a key member is being replaced by a very different musician who would become a key member - and a band “phoning it in” after their peak.

To me it makes perfect sense. Those post- Waters albums can be considered Gilmour solo albums which isn’t “real” Floyd. I mean those albums were just Gilmour and Mason as official members - and my guess is no one would notice if Mason wasn’t involved.
Wright was an official member again when writing and producing The Division Bell, and he’s all over that record.
The point still remains. Hopefully now you can understand the people that “make no sense” a little better at least.
No, because I go back to a band being able to sound however they want. When Syd Barrett steered the ship, it sounded different from when Roger did. Same with David when Roger left. It’s all Floyd.
 
No offense to anyone, but it makes no sense to say post-Waters Floyd material doesn’t sound like Pink Floyd. The band can sound like whatever they want. The prime 70s material sounded very little like the Syd Barrett material. Was not that the real Floyd sound either?

To me it makes perfect sense. Those post- Waters albums can be considered Gilmour solo albums which isn’t “real” Floyd. I mean those albums were just Gilmour and Mason as official members - and my guess is no one would notice if Mason wasn’t involved.
Where was Richard Wright during AMLOR and Division Bell? I didn't realize he wasn't involved.
He’s on AMLOR as a session musician not a band member.
What's the difference, lol. Did he play? I could care about contracts, I just want great music.
Maybe read things a little closer if you want to get the point. My point was that people can call it not real Floyd because they were basically Gilmour solo records.
 
No offense to anyone, but it makes no sense to say post-Waters Floyd material doesn’t sound like Pink Floyd. The band can sound like whatever they want. The prime 70s material sounded very little like the Syd Barrett material. Was not that the real Floyd sound either?
There’s a difference between a band finding it’s way early in their careers - especially when a key member is being replaced by a very different musician who would become a key member - and a band “phoning it in” after their peak.

To me it makes perfect sense. Those post- Waters albums can be considered Gilmour solo albums which isn’t “real” Floyd. I mean those albums were just Gilmour and Mason as official members - and my guess is no one would notice if Mason wasn’t involved.
Wright was an official member again when writing and producing The Division Bell, and he’s all over that record.
The point still remains. Hopefully now you can understand the people that “make no sense” a little better at least.
No, because I go back to a band being able to sound however they want. When Syd Barrett steered the ship, it sounded different from when Roger did. Same with David when Roger left. It’s all Floyd.
I think deep down you know what people are trying to say but want to be a bit smug about it.

Anyway, no offense.
 
What's the difference, lol. Did he play? I could care about contracts, I just want great music.
AMLOR was essentially a DG solo record. Wright was one of 5 keyboard players on the album. Mason was one of 5 people that played drums and percussion. People can like the album regardless who played what on what tracks.
 
. When he toured on just his solo material back in the day, he struggled big time to sell tickets.
Really? He sold out MSG when I saw him and most of the Floyd songs he played were from the Final Cut. 80% of the music was from Pros and Cons and Radio K.A.O.S.
I’m going by what Roger said. He said it was a stomach punch for him to struggle to fill arenas in the late 80s in cities where Floyd sold out stadiums. Roger’s In the Flesh tour in the late 90s did surprisingly well (to him at the time). I think that’s when he figured out that fans wanted Floyd songs, and all his tours since have heavily featured them.
 
No offense to anyone, but it makes no sense to say post-Waters Floyd material doesn’t sound like Pink Floyd. The band can sound like whatever they want. The prime 70s material sounded very little like the Syd Barrett material. Was not that the real Floyd sound either?
There’s a difference between a band finding it’s way early in their careers - especially when a key member is being replaced by a very different musician who would become a key member - and a band “phoning it in” after their peak.

To me it makes perfect sense. Those post- Waters albums can be considered Gilmour solo albums which isn’t “real” Floyd. I mean those albums were just Gilmour and Mason as official members - and my guess is no one would notice if Mason wasn’t involved.
Wright was an official member again when writing and producing The Division Bell, and he’s all over that record.
The point still remains. Hopefully now you can understand the people that “make no sense” a little better at least.
No, because I go back to a band being able to sound however they want. When Syd Barrett steered the ship, it sounded different from when Roger did. Same with David when Roger left. It’s all Floyd.
I think deep down you know what people are trying to say but want to be a bit smug about it.

Anyway, no offense.
I’m really not. I just hate the idea that any band has to sound a certain way. That’s why I push back on it. All good.
 
@Dwayne Hoover @ericttspikes @BrutalPenguin @Mookie Gizzy @Rand al Thor @Anarchy99

I believe the 6 of us were the ones that did not vote for any song after Waters left the band. If you had to pick your favorite post-Roger song, what would it be? How far away would you guess that song would be from your Top 25 PF songs?
Does Murder count? LOL
Sorrow is a really good song and to be honest I haven't listened to AMLOR in so long, it was refreshing to hear it again. On the Turning Away which may even crack the top 30 would be another one for me.
 
. When he toured on just his solo material back in the day, he struggled big time to sell tickets.
Really? He sold out MSG when I saw him and most of the Floyd songs he played were from the Final Cut. 80% of the music was from Pros and Cons and Radio K.A.O.S.
You might be misremembering about the setlist. I am guessing you went in 1987 . . . he only played there once that year. Here's what he played:

Radio Waves, Welcome To The Machine, Who Need Information, Money, In The Flesh, Have A Cigar, Pigs (3DO), Wish You Were Here, Mother, Molly's Song, Me Or Him, The Powers That Be, Going To Live in L.A., Sunset Strip, The Fish Report With A Beat, The Pros & Cons Of Hitchhiking, Arnold Layne, If, Every Stranger's Eyes, Not Now John, ABITW1, THDOOL, ABITW2, Nobody Home, Home, Four Minutes, The Tide Is Turning, Breathe (In The Air), The Great Gig In The Sky, Brain Damage, Eclipse. 17 PF songs vs. 12 solo songs.
 
but I do miss the song development, lyrics, and edge that Roger provided
This pretty much nails it. The music is just .... different ..... without Waters. Whether that's good or bad is up to the listener.

Most of my favorite PF songs have Gilmour singing lead, and his guitar playing is second to none. If you think the band is different in the post-Waters era, and it is, can you imagine if the situation was reversed? Imagine if Gilmour left and Roger continued on leading Pink Floyd. My guess is that it that musically, it would be even more unrecognizable as Pink Floyd. Glimour's guitar and voice I feel are just as important to Pink Floyd as Rogers writing and edge. Maybe even more important.
 
. When he toured on just his solo material back in the day, he struggled big time to sell tickets.
Really? He sold out MSG when I saw him and most of the Floyd songs he played were from the Final Cut. 80% of the music was from Pros and Cons and Radio K.A.O.S.
You might be misremembering about the setlist. I am guessing you went in 1987 . . . he only played there once that year. Here's what he played:

Radio Waves, Welcome To The Machine, Who Need Information, Money, In The Flesh, Have A Cigar, Pigs (3DO), Wish You Were Here, Mother, Molly's Song, Me Or Him, The Powers That Be, Going To Live in L.A., Sunset Strip, The Fish Report With A Beat, The Pros & Cons Of Hitchhiking, Arnold Layne, If, Every Stranger's Eyes, Not Now John, ABITW1, THDOOL, ABITW2, Nobody Home, Home, Four Minutes, The Tide Is Turning, Breathe (In The Air), The Great Gig In The Sky, Brain Damage, Eclipse. 17 PF songs vs. 12 solo songs.
Yeah it was a long time ago so % could be off.
 
@Dwayne Hoover @ericttspikes @BrutalPenguin @Mookie Gizzy @Rand al Thor @Anarchy99

I believe the 6 of us were the ones that did not vote for any song after Waters left the band. If you had to pick your favorite post-Roger song, what would it be? How far away would you guess that song would be from your Top 25 PF songs?
Does Murder count? LOL
Sorrow is a really good song and to be honest I haven't listened to AMLOR in so long, it was refreshing to hear it again. On the Turning Away which may even crack the top 30 would be another one for me.
And since we are essentially talking about DG solo albums now, I would also put Blue Light up there. I think Murder and Blue Light would have made my top 25 if they were eligible
 
@Dwayne Hoover @ericttspikes @BrutalPenguin @Mookie Gizzy @Rand al Thor @Anarchy99

I believe the 6 of us were the ones that did not vote for any song after Waters left the band. If you had to pick your favorite post-Roger song, what would it be? How far away would you guess that song would be from your Top 25 PF songs?
I like the first half of Lapse. The last 3-4 songs never did it for me. I thought Division Bell was so so. Like it better than Final Cut as a whole, even though I had a Final Cut song on my list. I like Dogs of War very much, it would be in a top 50 for sure
 
but I do miss the song development, lyrics, and edge that Roger provided
This pretty much nails it. The music is just .... different ..... without Waters. Whether that's good or bad is up to the listener.

Most of my favorite PF songs have Gilmour singing lead, and his guitar playing is second to none. If you think the band is different in the post-Waters era, and it is, can you imagine if the situation was reversed? Imagine if Gilmour left and Roger continued on leading Pink Floyd. My guess is that it that musically, it would be even more unrecognizable as Pink Floyd. Glimour's guitar and voice I feel are just as important to Pink Floyd as Rogers writing and edge. Maybe even more important.
We can sort of get a sense of how things would go without DG. Just listen to the PF songs Roger plays without Dave. For the most part, after the divorce, the PF songs that featured Dave were better when Dave performed them and the PF songs featuring Roger were better when Roger performed them. It gets trickier on songs that were performed in all categories.

There are only 10 PF songs that were performed live by PF, DG's PF, RW, and DG. Those songs are Comfortably Numb, SOYCD, Wish You Were Here, Time, Us And Them, Run Like Hell, One Of These Days, Breathe, Money, and The Great Gig In The Sky.
 
@Dwayne Hoover @ericttspikes @BrutalPenguin @Mookie Gizzy @Rand al Thor @Anarchy99

I believe the 6 of us were the ones that did not vote for any song after Waters left the band. If you had to pick your favorite post-Roger song, what would it be? How far away would you guess that song would be from your Top 25 PF songs?
Does Murder count? LOL
Sorrow is a really good song and to be honest I haven't listened to AMLOR in so long, it was refreshing to hear it again. On the Turning Away which may even crack the top 30 would be another one for me.
And since we are essentially talking about DG solo albums now, I would also put Blue Light up there. I think Murder and Blue Light would have made my top 25 if they were eligible
I mentioned earlier that I like About Face better than either of the DG PF records.
 
@Dwayne Hoover @ericttspikes @BrutalPenguin @Mookie Gizzy @Rand al Thor @Anarchy99

I believe the 6 of us were the ones that did not vote for any song after Waters left the band. If you had to pick your favorite post-Roger song, what would it be? How far away would you guess that song would be from your Top 25 PF songs?
Does Murder count? LOL
Sorrow is a really good song and to be honest I haven't listened to AMLOR in so long, it was refreshing to hear it again. On the Turning Away which may even crack the top 30 would be another one for me.
And since we are essentially talking about DG solo albums now, I would also put Blue Light up there. I think Murder and Blue Light would have made my top 25 if they were eligible
I would have seriously considered the title track of On an Island. I think it's better than anything on AMLOR and all but one song from TDB.
 
but I do miss the song development, lyrics, and edge that Roger provided
This pretty much nails it. The music is just .... different ..... without Waters. Whether that's good or bad is up to the listener.

Most of my favorite PF songs have Gilmour singing lead, and his guitar playing is second to none. If you think the band is different in the post-Waters era, and it is, can you imagine if the situation was reversed? Imagine if Gilmour left and Roger continued on leading Pink Floyd. My guess is that it that musically, it would be even more unrecognizable as Pink Floyd. Glimour's guitar and voice I feel are just as important to Pink Floyd as Rogers writing and edge. Maybe even more important.
We can sort of get a sense of how things would go without DG. Just listen to the PF songs Roger plays without Dave. For the most part, after the divorce, the PF songs that featured Dave were better when Dave performed them and the PF songs featuring Roger were better when Roger performed them. It gets trickier on songs that were performed in all categories.

There are only 10 PF songs that were performed live by PF, DG's PF, RW, and DG. Those songs are Comfortably Numb, SOYCD, Wish You Were Here, Time, Us And Them, Run Like Hell, One Of These Days, Breathe, Money, and The Great Gig In The Sky.

Agree about them singing each others leads, though (to me) Waters is forcing his way through a DG song can be pretty brutal. More than the reverse. But I have a bias, as I stated, my favorite PF songs are Gimour's vocal.
 
The song The Blue is godly.
Agree on that. I’d put that up there with among Gilmour’s best guitar work in a career of incredible guitar work.
I ranked my favorite of DG's guitar work among a portfolio of great guitar work as my #1. SPOILER ALERT: I am the only one that picked that as their #1 song. Obviously, we are a long way away from there, but it is truly awe inspiring.
 
The song The Blue is godly.
Agree on that. I’d put that up there with among Gilmour’s best guitar work in a career of incredible guitar work.
I ranked my favorite of DG's guitar work among a portfolio of great guitar work as my #1. SPOILER ALERT: I am the only one that picked that as their #1 song. Obviously, we are a long way away from there, but it is truly awe inspiring.
That could be any number of tunes, but will be interesting to see what it is.
 
No offense to anyone, but it makes no sense to say post-Waters Floyd material doesn’t sound like Pink Floyd. The band can sound like whatever they want. The prime 70s material sounded very little like the Syd Barrett material. Was not that the real Floyd sound either?
There were 33 rankers . . . 16 of them did not vote for a Syd era song. Maybe that would have been different if we voted for 40 songs instead of 25, who knows? But @Dwayne Hoover @BrutalPenguin @Rand al Thor and @Anarchy99 did not vote for a Syd era song OR a Dave era song. So to us, yes, the start and end of the band were different enough that we liked all our selections in the 1968-1983 era exclusively. I can't speak for anyone else, but I liked the RW-DG-NM-RW era the best. Sure, some of the material produced in that time isn't great or also has a different sound than the peak period songs. I own Ummagumma but I haven't touched it in 40 years. I've listened to AMLOR, TDB, and APATGOD way more in that time. We can all listen to and enjoy different things. It doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it any more, less, or the same. We like what we like.
It's been interesting following this recent discussion. My perspective is from someone who shockingly did not really get into Pink Floyd until about 5 years ago. Not sure why, just never happened. However, my path took me from the RW/DG era forward and I never really questioned or had second thoughts about the post RW stuff. Obviously I knew the difference and as others have stated, the sound/lyrics etc. are very different, but to me, it was still Floyd, good, bad or indifferent. While I don't rank AMLOR or TDB as highly as the classics, there are quite a few songs I absolutely love and which made my top 25. This thread is my first real foray into the Syd era which has been a ton of fun and like others have said, an interesting exercise in examining the evolution of band.
 
Gilmour has a much “prettier” voice. Waters has more emotion and “character” in his voice. Some of the best songs is where they both contribute vocals. There’s a time and place for each of them. They were both better together than apart.
 
The song The Blue is godly.
Agree on that. I’d put that up there with among Gilmour’s best guitar work in a career of incredible guitar work.
I ranked my favorite of DG's guitar work among a portfolio of great guitar work as my #1. SPOILER ALERT: I am the only one that picked that as their #1 song. Obviously, we are a long way away from there, but it is truly awe inspiring.
That could be any number of tunes, but will be interesting to see what it is.
Well it's obviously not my #1, which has some pretty damn amazing guitar work as well.

Anyone who followed Krista's British Isles countdown knows what my #1 is.
 
The song The Blue is godly.
Agree on that. I’d put that up there with among Gilmour’s best guitar work in a career of incredible guitar work.
I ranked my favorite of DG's guitar work among a portfolio of great guitar work as my #1. SPOILER ALERT: I am the only one that picked that as their #1 song. Obviously, we are a long way away from there, but it is truly awe inspiring.
That could be any number of tunes, but will be interesting to see what it is.
It's not a studio version of a song, but this particular live version is just incredible.
 
Gilmour has a much “prettier” voice. Waters has more emotion and “character” in his voice. Some of the best songs is where they both contribute vocals. There’s a time and place for each of them. They were both better together than apart.
Yes. The issue for me is that RW's voice was pretty wrecked after The Wall and has never really recovered.
 
The song The Blue is godly.
Agree on that. I’d put that up there with among Gilmour’s best guitar work in a career of incredible guitar work.
I ranked my favorite of DG's guitar work among a portfolio of great guitar work as my #1. SPOILER ALERT: I am the only one that picked that as their #1 song. Obviously, we are a long way away from there, but it is truly awe inspiring.
That could be any number of tunes, but will be interesting to see what it is.
Well it's obviously not my #1, which has some pretty damn amazing guitar work as well.

Anyone who followed Krista's British Isles countdown knows what my #1 is.
My #2
 
The song The Blue is godly.
Agree on that. I’d put that up there with among Gilmour’s best guitar work in a career of incredible guitar work.
I ranked my favorite of DG's guitar work among a portfolio of great guitar work as my #1. SPOILER ALERT: I am the only one that picked that as their #1 song. Obviously, we are a long way away from there, but it is truly awe inspiring.
That could be any number of tunes, but will be interesting to see what it is.
It's not a studio version of a song, but this particular live version is just incredible.
Mademoiselle Nobs it is.
 
Music, by nature, is subjective. It's doubtful there's anyone in the world who likes exactly the same things as someone else. Sometimes it all comes down to being in the right place at the right time. I will always have great appreciation for the AMLOR and Division Bell records because they brought Floyd to the masses while I was a teenager, got radio play, and allowed me a chance to go to my two favorite concerts.

In one of Anarchy's writeups, there was a description of Gilmour's "sweet" combining with Rodgers' "sour," and I think that's a perfect way to describe how they meshed so well. I find Rodgers' solo efforts to be shrill and Gilmour's to be ponderous. But together? Man, that's just magic.
 
am not ragging on you but I never really understood that sentiment. DG had all the best songs imo vocal wise and the monster guitar solo's.
Gilmour is surely a main reason why I love Floyd. His vocals are much better than Waters' for sure and he's my third favorite guitarist to listen to, but while the post Waters catalogue has a few decent songs, most of the music is much more generic and the lyrics are weak.

It's not bad music (I picked two songs here) but I also don't consider it "real" Floyd either. I personally like solo Waters' albums better than Floyd's post Waters output - both both sorely miss the other.

I'm in complete agreement here. I've never quite been able to reconcile my strong preference of Gilmour over Waters in almost every way, but also strongly preferring the music from the Waters era.
 

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