Let me preface this by saying I love FBG and am a longtime subsriber. Here are some thoughts in no partciluar order.I am sure that many have this same issue. Printing FBG articles and rankings stinks. Every preseason I print the consensus rankings and it's impossible to read/things are cut off on the bottom and right margins. Seems a simple fix.Second, there has to be a way to keep the threads in the Shark Pool on point and get rid/ban/suspend the posters who come on a disrupt an informative thread by acting like children. When a thread is about a WR and someone mentions that X is on their waiver wire - the thread routinely gets hikacked by the idiot who has to question why WR X is on the waiver wire and how that league is inferior/guppy/etc. Then the infighting starts and when I've worked all day or I am on the train accessing the thread on my blackberry, I have to scroll through all the bull#### to get to what I want, which is INFORMATION on whether I should start WR X this week. It's maddening. The Shark Pool is amazing - but the number of people that post unrelated/unnecessary material is way to high and seemingly getting higher. There has got to be a way to fix this.Third, I agree that there has to be a way to get the Assistant Coach Forum to work better. Now, it's worthless.Fourth, I too would like to be able to pick what gets emailed to me in terms of content.
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Maroney=Speed
Footballguy
Agree with almost everything.
ichris
Footballguy
I want to see an FBG Wiki
This isn't necessarily a post about areas where FBG is lacking in quality, but rather an idea that would greatly benefit the FBG community. One problem I am constantly frustrated by is the massive amount of information in posts on the forums and the lack of time to read it before it gets buried by new topics. It would be such a time saver if all of the useful information in specific topics were gathered and placed in an FBG Wiki site (subscription to FBG required). It would also mean that subscribers would be able to find information quicker because we won't have to read a 50 page thread on Michael Turner which really only has about one page of quality information.
Wiki's are great tools and have been adopted by many businesses as a way to place information employees may need in a central and easily navigated location. They are incredibly powerful tools especially in this specific case because of the giant active community of FBGs. With the active FBG community all contributing toward updating the information on specific topics with relevant information, it not only adds an additional venue for information but it also greatly increases the quality of the community. If an FBG finds a post interesting and worth considering, they can update the wiki page for the benefit of other subscribers with less time on their hands. You could even give some sort of recognition to the FBGs who are more active in making wiki edits by allowing other FBGs to vote on the helpfulness of the information they contribute. It would also ensure that overzealous wiki contributors are not placing information that is not useful to others. Wiki's are very user friendly and there isn't a big learning curve. Please consider this idea! This could be the next great addition!
This isn't necessarily a post about areas where FBG is lacking in quality, but rather an idea that would greatly benefit the FBG community. One problem I am constantly frustrated by is the massive amount of information in posts on the forums and the lack of time to read it before it gets buried by new topics. It would be such a time saver if all of the useful information in specific topics were gathered and placed in an FBG Wiki site (subscription to FBG required). It would also mean that subscribers would be able to find information quicker because we won't have to read a 50 page thread on Michael Turner which really only has about one page of quality information.
Wiki's are great tools and have been adopted by many businesses as a way to place information employees may need in a central and easily navigated location. They are incredibly powerful tools especially in this specific case because of the giant active community of FBGs. With the active FBG community all contributing toward updating the information on specific topics with relevant information, it not only adds an additional venue for information but it also greatly increases the quality of the community. If an FBG finds a post interesting and worth considering, they can update the wiki page for the benefit of other subscribers with less time on their hands. You could even give some sort of recognition to the FBGs who are more active in making wiki edits by allowing other FBGs to vote on the helpfulness of the information they contribute. It would also ensure that overzealous wiki contributors are not placing information that is not useful to others. Wiki's are very user friendly and there isn't a big learning curve. Please consider this idea! This could be the next great addition!
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comfortably numb
Footballguy
-Would like to see more dynasty rankings on and off season.
-Liked the suggestion of integrating current contract status on a players BIO.
Would save alot of digging when I am considering trades with players possible future projections in mind.
Message board thoughts.
The FFA was criticized for having a board cop who was too strict, but I think the SP needs one or a few who can take quicker action.
I think alot of posts/threads can simply be deleted before the thread gets hijacked 3 times, and ignorant posts come from all over.
I can take a few jokes and dish them in a thread, but when the thread goes in a different direction, it loses all its value, and I don't go back.
I would like original posters to edit their titles if news changes. I often come to the SP for breaking news, and nothing like getting ready to set a lineup for my playoffs game only to see a thread title read: Andre Johnson OUT.
Maybe if posters do not edit or update their titles a Mod can?
Shark Pool.
I don't use it for advice, but have ventured in there from time to time to offer advice.
It is a rough place, and could use some help.
I would offer to have STAFF spend more time there? Shifts?
If that is not feasible, possibly select people from the SP and pay them?
a few cents a post?
per hour, and give them shifts?
Free subscription?
an autograph from Bloom?
Not sure is Joe and David wanna go the way of paying people, but if people who post there for advice knew they had people who were responsible to offer sound advice, I would think it would make the AC goers happier.
Keep up the good work, I always appreciate the best of the best, always trying to get better!!
-Liked the suggestion of integrating current contract status on a players BIO.
Would save alot of digging when I am considering trades with players possible future projections in mind.
Message board thoughts.
The FFA was criticized for having a board cop who was too strict, but I think the SP needs one or a few who can take quicker action.
I think alot of posts/threads can simply be deleted before the thread gets hijacked 3 times, and ignorant posts come from all over.
I can take a few jokes and dish them in a thread, but when the thread goes in a different direction, it loses all its value, and I don't go back.
I would like original posters to edit their titles if news changes. I often come to the SP for breaking news, and nothing like getting ready to set a lineup for my playoffs game only to see a thread title read: Andre Johnson OUT.
Maybe if posters do not edit or update their titles a Mod can?
Shark Pool.
I don't use it for advice, but have ventured in there from time to time to offer advice.
It is a rough place, and could use some help.
I would offer to have STAFF spend more time there? Shifts?
If that is not feasible, possibly select people from the SP and pay them?
a few cents a post?
per hour, and give them shifts?
Free subscription?
an autograph from Bloom?
Not sure is Joe and David wanna go the way of paying people, but if people who post there for advice knew they had people who were responsible to offer sound advice, I would think it would make the AC goers happier.
Keep up the good work, I always appreciate the best of the best, always trying to get better!!
1) On the pay site, preliminary projections were inconsistently produced this year. The projections seemed rushed and there were major differences between preliminary and final projections not attributable to breaking week news. Seemed like 13th hour quick guessing.
2) On the free site, too much negativity on the boards. Way too much making fun of other people and hostility all around. Maybe it is a few bad apples, but it is prevalent enough to feel there is no benefit to visiting the boards. A community board should have the spirit of helping one another - the spirit here is overwhelmed by self entitled internet trolls who try to slip inappropriate material past the mods.
2) On the free site, too much negativity on the boards. Way too much making fun of other people and hostility all around. Maybe it is a few bad apples, but it is prevalent enough to feel there is no benefit to visiting the boards. A community board should have the spirit of helping one another - the spirit here is overwhelmed by self entitled internet trolls who try to slip inappropriate material past the mods.
NoDigg41
Footballguy
I can't believe it took someone else this long to post this. As soon as I read the original post of this thread, that is what comes to mind. The expert/consensus rankings is an invaluable tool during draft season, then after the season starts we only get the rankings of 1 staffer. Some things are universal, but sometimes people see things in different lights. Do you drop a QB from an elite team in the rankings because they're playing a strong defense, or do you maybe bump him a few spots, because he may have to be throwing more than usual because they may be in a tight game instead of grinding out the clock in the 4th quarter by handing the ball off 15 times.The consensus rankings also tend to weed out inherent biases in people's rankings. It is impossible for humans to be totally unbiased, no matter how professional they are. We are loyal, emotional beings and sometimes, no matter how hard we try, we all see the world through rose colored glasses sometimes.As much as you hate to see it and read it, espn.com made a huge leap forward this season in their Fantasy Coverage. Love or Hate Matt Berry, he is very entertaining and changed the game at espn's fantasy department. They did have weekly expert rankings, (for free mind you). I also love reading their chat sessions.Maybe assign your best 5 or 10 guys a 1 hour chat session. Once each day, or even one late morning/one mid-afternoon chat each weekday. A lot of times it's the same questions worded in different ways, but a lot of times tons of fantasy owners have the same questions. The information in those chats is invaluable.Don't get me wrong, the FBG subscription is still the best money spent, because you basically get a full year of info and support for the cost of 3 magazines that are a month outdated by the time they hit the shelves.Sorry had to fix my typos!
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two suggested improvement items, in addition to averages of staff rankings and projections mentioned earlier:
1) every week have a projections results versus actual results. These should be viewable per week and per year. So it would show the last week's projection and actual results to see the biggest discrepancies for last week's rankings - each row type should have a brief description for that row. Example: if Greg Jennings was ranked as the number 25 wr last week but comes up with the 2nd best week, show that he was the most under ranked for the week and a include a one line explanation why the projection was off. Keep the history of these results per week and a Year to Date projections results view.
2) a running staff fantasy league that show each person's team selections per week, team's bench and actual trades during the week. Also show the running year's history of the league, including draft.
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Could have a subscriber's only wiki section where each week subscribers can modify a weekly wiki projection page. The wiki page would need to have a special type of control so that user input would be averaged into any specific rankings, instead of overriding and replacing the specific player ranking
1) every week have a projections results versus actual results. These should be viewable per week and per year. So it would show the last week's projection and actual results to see the biggest discrepancies for last week's rankings - each row type should have a brief description for that row. Example: if Greg Jennings was ranked as the number 25 wr last week but comes up with the 2nd best week, show that he was the most under ranked for the week and a include a one line explanation why the projection was off. Keep the history of these results per week and a Year to Date projections results view.
2) a running staff fantasy league that show each person's team selections per week, team's bench and actual trades during the week. Also show the running year's history of the league, including draft.
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Could have a subscriber's only wiki section where each week subscribers can modify a weekly wiki projection page. The wiki page would need to have a special type of control so that user input would be averaged into any specific rankings, instead of overriding and replacing the specific player ranking
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Jaysus
Good times!
silentmark
Footballguy
Right on with that idea. You could even take it a step further that if a Paid Subscriber gets out of line, they lose a week's access, hit it where it hurts and show some tough love ...Why not make the Shark Pool an exclusive forum for paid subscribers.Make a pissing pool for the cheapskates who just want to come and stir things up?!?!?!?!
Tick
Footballguy
Great point - I paste everything into Notepad before printing it, but it would be nice to do it directly from the site.
Garrett
Footballguy
Why not make the Shark Pool an exclusive forum for paid subscribers.Make a pissing pool for the cheapskates who just want to come and stir things up?!?!?!?!
RC94
Footballguy
I love how you guys are always trying to improve your articles and other offerings as well as the variety and quality of those current offerings. My main problem is with the Shark Pool. The tool factor needs to be turned way down. At least half of the threads at any given time routinely become unreadable.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Half? It's much worse than that.
RC94
Footballguy
I was trying to be nice, but you are right.
GoBears84
Footballguy
As someone who spends significant time over in Bruce's private playground, this is probably my #1 request. It was improved this year with the addition of the 2nd Opinion option, but I would still have prefered to see a consensus that also included DD. Taking the Projection Dominator, which we used for DD and modifying it for LD should be an easy to implement solution - provided you can get the guys who do the PD during the preseason to get their rankings into DD in a timely manner.The other great improvement the year was getting the LD out early Wednesday morning. I would guess that trying to get consensus rankings in time for Wed morning release will be hard, but even if you got DD rankings in first and then PD rankings updated in time for the Thursday games, people would be happy.My #2 is to be able to use LD to look back a projections vs. Actual for the entire NFL. Great job as usual guys.I can't believe it took someone else this long to post this. As soon as I read the original post of this thread, that is what comes to mind. The expert/consensus rankings is an invaluable tool during draft season, then after the season starts we only get the rankings of 1 staffer. Some things are universal, but sometimes people see things in different lights. Do you drop a QB from an elite team in the rankings because they're playing a strong defense, or do you maybe bump him a few spots, because he may have to be throwing more than usual because they may be in a tight game instead of grinding out the clock in the 4th quarter by handing the ball off 15 times.The consensus rankings also tend to weed out inherent biases in people's rankings. It is impossible for humans to be totally unbiased, no matter how professional they are. We are loyal, emotional beings and sometimes, no matter how hard we try, we all see the world through rose colored glasses sometimes.
I think you should add a forum titled Football Talk For Tight Asses. That way all the people who don't take life so serious will know not to enter and we can have fun and razz each other in another forum.
After the regular season ends your updates on players, situations, next year sleepers, rumors, free agent possibilities, situations to monitor is lacking. i.e. Branch's playoff injury could allow someone like Obomanu a larger role and increases his sleeper value for next year...monitor Hackett closely.....Martz being hired raises the value of Battle/Jackson and the not so obvious Jason Hill....but don't overpay as martz may try to bring in his own guys like Bruce or other upgrades. Also affected is Vernon Davis as Martz's offenses never seem to make good use of the TE.
Just some little snippets like PFW's "whispers" with a little more speculation and thinking outside the box being involved.
Just some little snippets like PFW's "whispers" with a little more speculation and thinking outside the box being involved.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
wiki=baller idea.
Bill
Footballguy
1-i have to agree 100% with this post. its next to impossible to print out some of the rankings on this site. other sites have much better user friendly "print options". note-this site has the best content-but unfortunately you cannot print it out! also-other sites have a much clearer(easier to read) print format.2-someone else posted that the old waiver wire was better than the "waiver wire gems"-i agree completely.3-need a lot more dynasty info. more and more leagues are going to this format and that would be a major improvemant.4-make the "forums" subscriber only!-i know FBG do not like this suggestion as it has been posted many times in past years but i feel we need this to weed out the flamers. or at least one(sharkpool???) for subscribers only. FBG has posted in the past that the forums will always be open to everyone(i am sure its an advertising thing)-but i strongly feel that we are the ones paying for this site so why should we be giving away a lot of the opinions and insight of the paying memebers??????5-seemed like week 17 was weak again a far as content. again-this is a great site with great info-but like any buisness you have to look for ways to make it better.
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