shnikies
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Do you own Felix Jones? Why am I asking? Of course you do.
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Felix Jones/DeMarco Murray Discussion Thread (1 Viewer)
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solorca
Footballguy
He has said before that he owns Murray. I think at this point he's just trying to see how wrong he can be on everything related to Murray.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
After the job is officially given to Murray upon Jones' return, maybe he'll try to play it off as it was all shtick..
It's kinda obvious at this point, that Murray is going to be the man in Dallas..
RedBird33
Footballguy
Felix Jones was just dropped in my Keeper League to make roster space. I own Murray and think that's crazy given it's a 14 team league and the pickin' on the waiver wire are slim to say the least. I would have traded for Felix as a handcuff. All this to say that Felix has value but he's worth more to Murray owners than anyone else at this point.
LarryAllen'sJockstrap
Footballguy
I would recomend creating a new account and starting fresh around here.
jackdubl
Footballguy
Don't know what the Boys are thinking, but I'd improve my run blocking and feature Murray in the future. They seem to be set on offense now except for that line.
Ridgelake
Footballguy
Looks like Murray is the lead back. Felix is the 3rd down back and gets the occasional series. He gets further touches on KO returns.Murray ~20 touches per game. Felix ~10.
need2know
Footballguy
i am real curious to see them play NY this week. Felix seems 100% now and I was surprised how much he was on the field @ ARZ. I think the cowboys lost that game because they never established the run. hopefully, they realize the only way to do that is to give murray more chances. we all know felix cant do it. do they know that yet? the full back coming back should help tons too. i have to start murray after this week so am hoping he regains some of the swagger he had a few weeks ago...
jackdubl
Footballguy
Cowboys have some schizophrenic play calling. They run off a bunch of wins by running Murray 20+ a game, then they decide to throw it all over the field, but then they don't trust their QB to make an extra play or two at the end of the game to help cement victory. It's a bit nonsensical.
bonesman
Footballguy
Dez on punts and Felix on KO. Dallas should score more than 0 TDs on special teams going forward.
Shutout
Footballguy
I think this is coming around to be the situation. Now that Murray isn't the fresh guy playing against banged up guys and has several games played and Felix is healthy, to me (and I know people will likely want to pile on about this) it seems clear that Murray was a "right place/right time" guy that, while he may be a better FF option than Felix, is not a guy that is going to be a clear top RB. Now that he has had to play several weeks in a row, it seems to me that all that burst is out of the tank. He didn't seem to have nearly the acceleration or vision last week against the Cardinals who are an average run defense.
bonesman
Footballguy
Are you one of those people that can never admit when you're wrong?
Ridgelake
Footballguy
Another thing to keep in mind is the style of defenses they've played recently and what they'll face the rest of the year. For whatever reason, Dallas has struggled against 3-4 teams under Garrett. AZ, Miami, and Wash all play 3-4. As do the Pats, whom they really struggled against. Dallas faces all 4-3 teams the rest of the way, with Giants x2, Eagles, and Bucs.
Jackdubl, Garrett has been schizo in his playcalling, but there's a clear correlation between home and away. Bob Sturm wrote an excellent article on that this week. Truly remarkable how different in terms of aggressiveness the offense has been home vs. away.
Bonesman, the difference in explosiveness between Dez and Felix versus the guys they've replaced is night and day. Felix and Dez make guys miss. The previous guys, not so much. When Felix juked a guy on a KO return, leaving him in the dust, I thought to myself, "Wow, when was the last time a Dallas KO returner made a guy miss? It seems like forever." Dallas has been horrible in returns this year outside of Dez and Felix.
Jackdubl, Garrett has been schizo in his playcalling, but there's a clear correlation between home and away. Bob Sturm wrote an excellent article on that this week. Truly remarkable how different in terms of aggressiveness the offense has been home vs. away.
Bonesman, the difference in explosiveness between Dez and Felix versus the guys they've replaced is night and day. Felix and Dez make guys miss. The previous guys, not so much. When Felix juked a guy on a KO return, leaving him in the dust, I thought to myself, "Wow, when was the last time a Dallas KO returner made a guy miss? It seems like forever." Dallas has been horrible in returns this year outside of Dez and Felix.
Murray only got 12 touches against the Cardinals, who were playing good defense. The fullback situation seems to be pretty important here. He was helping Murray get into the second level of the defense. Felix is a nice backup for Murray, and a nice third-down back who can make plays in the return game. Murray will continue to shine. It's a bit delusional to think otherwise.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
(Bitter Felix owner here) 
I wasn't sold on Murry, I needed to see what he does against good defenses who geared up to stop him before I put him as the #1 rb to own like most rankers did. As soon as Felix went out the o-line learned how to block, favorable matchups and garret actually ran the ball with good frequency. I admit he will be a productive rb but when I heard AP, he's the new E. Smith, Erick Dickerson comparison I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'm still unsure what to think about these guys together but I doubt we heard the last of Felix Jones, he showed me a lot early this year even with horrible blocking(see redskins game). I would use them both and let Murry grind out the games.
I wasn't sold on Murry, I needed to see what he does against good defenses who geared up to stop him before I put him as the #1 rb to own like most rankers did. As soon as Felix went out the o-line learned how to block, favorable matchups and garret actually ran the ball with good frequency. I admit he will be a productive rb but when I heard AP, he's the new E. Smith, Erick Dickerson comparison I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'm still unsure what to think about these guys together but I doubt we heard the last of Felix Jones, he showed me a lot early this year even with horrible blocking(see redskins game). I would use them both and let Murry grind out the games.
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solorca
Footballguy
I have to admit I'm a little worried about how this might shake out, especially for the fantasy playoffs. Considering that they lost in a game where they got away from what was working for them, I'm hoping that they will go back to letting Murray do what he was doing best.
I know that Murray had a rough game running the ball last week, but I find it really strange that they didn't use him at all in the passing game, where he has proven to be a very solid performer. Hopefully it was just a one week thing and everything gets back to normal this weekend.
Thank God for having a bye week, otherwise I wouldn't know what to do.
My gut says that Murray puts up some really solid numbers this weekend.
I know that Murray had a rough game running the ball last week, but I find it really strange that they didn't use him at all in the passing game, where he has proven to be a very solid performer. Hopefully it was just a one week thing and everything gets back to normal this weekend.
Thank God for having a bye week, otherwise I wouldn't know what to do.
My gut says that Murray puts up some really solid numbers this weekend.
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chinawildman
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I do think Murray is a superior RB than Felix at this point... however Murray was treated to a perfect storm of poor run Ds, being the only healthy RB on the roster, and the return of Dez and Austin to the WR corp.
To expect that Murray will get the touches and #s from his coming out party weeks is unrealistic. Garrett has always utilized some kind of committee, even when Felix debuted as a "feature runner" in week 1, the combo of murray/choice combined for 7 touches compared to felix's 20 touches.
I agree with Ridgelake that counting KO returns, we'll be seeing about a 2/1 ratio of touches respectively for Murray and Jones going forward.
To expect that Murray will get the touches and #s from his coming out party weeks is unrealistic. Garrett has always utilized some kind of committee, even when Felix debuted as a "feature runner" in week 1, the combo of murray/choice combined for 7 touches compared to felix's 20 touches.
I agree with Ridgelake that counting KO returns, we'll be seeing about a 2/1 ratio of touches respectively for Murray and Jones going forward.
