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join the poker group and last time it took. A few days. Might want to request now ?

 
VA703 said:
For the new people

you need to be approved to

join the poker group and last time it took. A few days. Might want to request now ?
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I get emails when new people request to join, and usually approve as soon as I am on a laptop. Just don't wait until 5 mins before the game starts.

 
anyone else playing at betonline.ag 's poker site? There aren't many MTT's that are worth a damn, or even table games but it's still nice to be able to splash around some real virtual money from my house in California.

 
I tried a few of the online sites that allow American players. I hate to say it, but it has jumped the shark for me. After being away from it for so long, and with no more bonuses or anything to hook me in, I gave up after a couple of days the last two or three I put money in to. Doubt I'd go back even if they legalized it again, which will never happen here in Texas.

 
Problem with playing online is everyone has programs tracking your play style so it's an unfair advantage unless your doing the same

 
Globalpoker.com is available for all US players.  I am not sure how this is legal, but they are hiding behind getting Sweeps that can be turned back and forth into cash through PayPal.  It's basically internet poker that we all used to play.

 
David Dodds said:
Globalpoker.com is available for all US players.  I am not sure how this is legal, but they are hiding behind getting Sweeps that can be turned back and forth into cash through PayPal.  It's basically internet poker that we all used to play.
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There seem to be plenty of sites still available to US players. I don't think that is the issue. The issue is they are all full of sharks and aren't really profitable anymore.

 
Been a while.

Saturday night on Stars?

You actually have to put a few dollars in to buy enough play chips to play a tourney.

 
To me the biggest difference between online No Limit (.10/.25) and live No Limit ($1/$2) is that in online you really need to take advantage of position and be aggressive with situational bluffing.  In live poker, there is very little reason to bluff.  In fact it's almost stupid to bluff because people at that level will call with just about anything.  Just wait until you get the monster hand and stack the donkeys (who will inevitably chase everything).  

 
fred_1_15301 said:
To me the biggest difference between online No Limit (.10/.25) and live No Limit ($1/$2) is that in online you really need to take advantage of position and be aggressive with situational bluffing.  In live poker, there is very little reason to bluff.  In fact it's almost stupid to bluff because people at that level will call with just about anything.  Just wait until you get the monster hand and stack the donkeys (who will inevitably chase everything).  
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Depends on who it is. You have to know the table and who you're in a hand against. You also have to be aware of your reputation at the table.

Particularly, it's not always a bad idea to get "caught" early on so that when you do get that big hand you can get paid off. Bluffing has its place in a live game for sure.

 
gianmarco said:
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Depends on who it is. You have to know the table and who you're in a hand against. You also have to be aware of your reputation at the table.

Particularly, it's not always a bad idea to get "caught" early on so that when you do get that big hand you can get paid off. Bluffing has its place in a live game for sure.
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Yeah no doubt.  If you can implement that extra level of thinking, then you will be a winning player at any level regardless of whether it's live or online.  But if you're not able to and just want a simple strategy that will make you a winning player in the long run, I think the strategy of minimizing the bluffs and maximizing monsters will work at live poker much more than online.  Yes you won't win as much as you would if you incorporated player tendencies/actions but you will still win IMO.  I don't think that's necessarily the case in online.

 
gianmarco said:
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Depends on who it is. You have to know the table and who you're in a hand against. You also have to be aware of your reputation at the table.

Particularly, it's not always a bad idea to get "caught" early on so that when you do get that big hand you can get paid off. Bluffing has its place in a live game for sure.
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Also, it was more in response to his claim that online poker is rigged.  i think there are effective general strategies to beat both games.  But I should have worded my original response differently.  Not everyone is capable of thinking at the 2nd or 3rd level.  

 
fred_1_15301 said:
Also, it was more in response to his claim that online poker is rigged.  i think there are effective general strategies to beat both games.  But I should have worded my original response differently.  Not everyone is capable of thinking at the 2nd or 3rd level.  
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I think what you're trying to say is that exploitative play is more optimal in live games, and a more game theory optimal strategy works better online. That's true to a large degree, but I've played a lot of players like you (or the strategy you're advising) in live games and it's quite profitable. Limiting your bluffs makes you very exploitable, though the level of play in casinos and other live games is such that very few players will catch that. 

 
Softballguy said:
I think what you're trying to say is that exploitative play is more optimal in live games, and a more game theory optimal strategy works better online. That's true to a large degree, but I've played a lot of players like you (or the strategy you're advising) in live games and it's quite profitable. Limiting your bluffs makes you very exploitable, though the level of play in casinos and other live games is such that very few players will catch that. 
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I'm actually not saying that I play like that.  I do pay attention to the tendencies of other player and how they perceive  my tendencies.  But an overwhelming number of live poker players (especially if you're playing a tourist location) are just there to drink and have fun.  Your bolded point is kind of what I was trying to get at.  In live poker, the overwhelming majority IMO are not really paying attention to you.  In online poker, the majority are paying attention.  

 
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fred_1_15301 said:
I'm actually not saying that I play like that.  I do pay attention to the tendencies of other player and how they perceive  my tendencies.  But an overwhelming number of live poker players (especially if you're playing a tourist location) are just there to drink and have fun.  Your bolded point is kind of what I was trying to get at.  In live poker, the overwhelming majority IMO are not really paying attention to you.  In online poker, the majority are paying attention.  
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I don't disagree. But it's more complicated than people paying attention or not. I think the majority of the players who advocate against bluffing live because "you'll always get called" probably aren't taking bet sizing into consideration. If you know how to properly size your bets on all streets, have a general understanding of good spots and good hands to bluff with, you're much better off denying your opponent his equity with a proper bluff strategy. 

 
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