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Did this Alvarez cat win yet?
i think he won 1 of the 9 rounds though. Definite unanimous decision thoughDid this Alvarez cat win yet?
i think he won 1 of the 9 rounds though. Definite unanimous decision though:X There honestly isn't a better example of shady scoring then that. literal travesty there, and way beyond incompetence. I mean there is no possible way you could see that fight as a draw, it is literally impossible.Majority!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
That's why i never bet boxing.
i'm going to be real salty about this one for awhile. I mean it is way beyond incompetence, i have no idea which 6 rounds you could possibly award to Alvarez. At most i could see him getting 3. There is just no way that there isn't some shady with that decision.CJ Ross was a judge? All you need to know.
I don't think it's any sort of conspiracy, I think she's just brutally incompetent.i'm going to be real salty about this one for awhile. I mean it is way beyond incompetence, i have no idea which 6 rounds you could possibly award to Alvarez. At most i could see him getting 3. There is just no way that there isn't some shady with that decision.CJ Ross was a judge? All you need to know.
How is that possible? She's obviously on the take.I don't think it's any sort of conspiracy, I think she's just brutally incompetent.i'm going to be real salty about this one for awhile. I mean it is way beyond incompetence, i have no idea which 6 rounds you could possibly award to Alvarez. At most i could see him getting 3. There is just no way that there isn't some shady with that decision.CJ Ross was a judge? All you need to know.
What's the point of only fixing one judge?How is that possible? She's obviously on the take.I don't think it's any sort of conspiracy, I think she's just brutally incompetent.i'm going to be real salty about this one for awhile. I mean it is way beyond incompetence, i have no idea which 6 rounds you could possibly award to Alvarez. At most i could see him getting 3. There is just no way that there isn't some shady with that decision.CJ Ross was a judge? All you need to know.
For people betting heavy on majority decision.What's the point of only fixing one judge?How is that possible? She's obviously on the take.I don't think it's any sort of conspiracy, I think she's just brutally incompetent.i'm going to be real salty about this one for awhile. I mean it is way beyond incompetence, i have no idea which 6 rounds you could possibly award to Alvarez. At most i could see him getting 3. There is just no way that there isn't some shady with that decision.CJ Ross was a judge? All you need to know.![]()
I don't think it's any sort of conspiracy, I think she's just brutally incompetent.i'm going to be real salty about this one for awhile. I mean it is way beyond incompetence, i have no idea which 6 rounds you could possibly award to Alvarez. At most i could see him getting 3. There is just no way that there isn't some shady with that decision.CJ Ross was a judge? All you need to know.
so that those with a Mayweather winning by majority decision ticket are winners, and those of us with a Mayweather winning by unanimous decision ticket are losers. win by UD was even odds, i think majority decision was +250 or something. I just don't know how it is possible to give 6 rounds away like that, there is zero justification of how it can even be explainedWhat's the point of only fixing one judge?How is that possible? She's obviously on the take.I don't think it's any sort of conspiracy, I think she's just brutally incompetent.i'm going to be real salty about this one for awhile. I mean it is way beyond incompetence, i have no idea which 6 rounds you could possibly award to Alvarez. At most i could see him getting 3. There is just no way that there isn't some shady with that decision.CJ Ross was a judge? All you need to know.![]()
Can you get down enough money on a UD prop to make it worthwhile?For people betting heavy on majority decision.What's the point of only fixing one judge?How is that possible? She's obviously on the take.I don't think it's any sort of conspiracy, I think she's just brutally incompetent.i'm going to be real salty about this one for awhile. I mean it is way beyond incompetence, i have no idea which 6 rounds you could possibly award to Alvarez. At most i could see him getting 3. There is just no way that there isn't some shady with that decision.CJ Ross was a judge? All you need to know.![]()
Can you get down enough money on a UD prop to make it worthwhile?For people betting heavy on majority decision.What's the point of only fixing one judge?How is that possible? She's obviously on the take.I don't think it's any sort of conspiracy, I think she's just brutally incompetent.i'm going to be real salty about this one for awhile. I mean it is way beyond incompetence, i have no idea which 6 rounds you could possibly award to Alvarez. At most i could see him getting 3. There is just no way that there isn't some shady with that decision.CJ Ross was a judge? All you need to know.![]()
yes. it was (ev) odds and a lot of books were taking the bet. This was like the super bowl for boxing, every book had props for itI mean enough money down to make it worthwhile to fix a fight?Can you get down enough money on a UD prop to make it worthwhile?For people betting heavy on majority decision.What's the point of only fixing one judge?How is that possible? She's obviously on the take.I don't think it's any sort of conspiracy, I think she's just brutally incompetent.i'm going to be real salty about this one for awhile. I mean it is way beyond incompetence, i have no idea which 6 rounds you could possibly award to Alvarez. At most i could see him getting 3. There is just no way that there isn't some shady with that decision.CJ Ross was a judge? All you need to know.![]()
yes. it was (ev) odds
No, seriously... OSU/Utah headed to OT, tied at 45-45.Two great games going on... Wiscy/ASU on ESPN. Oregon State/Utah on FOX Sports 1.
All I know is that over bettors won tonight. love this up-tempo offense trend. What happened to the kid ambulanced off? Just saw them leaving the field.No, seriously... OSU/Utah headed to OT, tied at 45-45.Two great games going on... Wiscy/ASU on ESPN. Oregon State/Utah on FOX Sports 1.
Wisconsin just made it 32-30, with 4:00 left.
There he is.Got a small teaser ticket with the final leg Badgers +10.5, and I just bought the Sun Devils ML.
So many emotions. I thought it was over for AZ ML. Then, time just ran out.W.o.w. @ the end of that wiscy game.
NFL SHARPS REPORT ... WEEK 2
SAN DIEGO AT PHILADELPHIA:
Interesting reaction here to Philadelphias impressive performance vs. Washington this past Monday Night. The first numbers up gave the Eagles respect for that resultwith Philly laying -7.5 on the opener. Early money came in on the favorite, lifting the line in paces up to as high as Philadelphia -9. Sharps preferring the underdog then came in at that price, which has driven the line all the way back down to the Eagles by 7.5 as we go to press. Awkward spot for oddsmakers. The game is in the sharp teaser window from -7.5 up to -8.5 (where Wise Guys like to move favorites down past the 7 and the 3 for use in two-team teasers). If sportsbooks post a solid seven, then the favorite will get hit hard. A solid nine shows the underdog getting hit hard. In terms of volume, sharps will like Philadelphia at -1.5, -2, or -2.5 in two-team teasers, but San Diego +9 for straight bets.
CLEVELAND AT BALTIMORE:
The first numbers up showed Baltimore by six. That was bet up (we hear because of respect for the extra preparation time after a Thursday Night game). Were now seeing a tug-of-war with Baltimore -6.5 getting support, but Cleveland at +7 getting hit if the line moves up to the key number. The percentages are that tight when a game hits a key number like three or seven. Sharps who prefer the host Ravens either got in at -6, or are happy at -6.5. Sharps who like the dog will gladly take the full seven.
TENNESSE AT HOUSTON:
Stores that opened with this line below Houston -9 saw action come in on the favoriteor simply moved on air with other stores who were concerned about teasers. Houston is a solid team when facing non-contenders, and Houston -2.5 or loser in two-team teasers would be extremely popular with sharps and squares (the public) alike in two-teamers. Some places offshore are as high as Houston -9.5. Were not seeing sharps come in on the dog Tennessee, which they did do with San Diego in this price range. Were hearing sharps would come in on the Titans at +10. This is not, right now, a heavily bet game from sharps.
MIAMI AT INDIANAPOLIS:
Looks like a tug-of-war spot with sharps split between Miami +3 and Indianapolis -2.5 because of the percentage power of the key number three. Stores that opened any lower were bet up to this tug-of-war range. Sosharps would be supporting the Colts at -1.5 or -2. If the public bets the home favorite over the weekend, sharps will balance that out with their action at Dolphins +3. We have a few games this Sunday in this particular range. Remember that sharps will be looking to move any underdogs of +2.5 up to +8.5 in teasers. There will be Wise Guys rooting for Indianapolis -2.5 but Miami +8.5 because of the historical percentages.
CAROLINA AT BUFFALO:
Another game on the threeanother tug-of-war. Though, this time its a road favorite instead of a home favorite. Carolina was bet by sharps at -2.5 or any opener lower than that. Dog money does come in at +3which is why many stores are charging -120 vigorish on Buffalo bets at +3. Beating the market in this sport is very much a matter of percentages. Sharps try to take advantage of any percentage edge they can find because they know that strategy will pay off over thousands of games and several years as bettors. Those with an opinion make sure they get the best line. Those without an opinion still try to bet the percentages.
ST. LOUIS AT ATLANTA:
Openers varied, but money settled very quickly on a tug-of-war between Atlanta -6.5 and St. Louis +7. A lot of games on key numbers this week. Though, it should be said that oddsmakers did a pretty good job of estimating sharp preferences with their openers.
WASHINGTON AT GREEN BAY:
Here it looks like we have a tug-of-war brewing on the other side of the key numbers. Green Bay -7 (or at any opener below that) was hit by sharps after seeing how poorly the Redskins defended Philadelphias offense. That pushed the game into the teaser window. Sharps took Washington +8 if it was offered anywhere, and many are investing at +7.5 as well. Those who had an opinion got their preferred line. Oddsmakers probably dont want this game in the teaser window Sunday given the publics tendency to bet Green Bay as a home favorite. Its already a safe bet this early that a Houston/Green Bay combination would be a very popular teaser choice this Sunday.
DALLAS AT KANSAS CITY:
To the degree you could say oddsmakers missed a game, it would be this one. Most early openers were in the Kansas City -1.5 to -2 range. Sharps hit that hardpushing the line up into tug-of-war range at the key number. Were now looking at Kansas City -2.5 and Dallas +3. The Chiefs were a big early position for the quickest acting sharps. Were hearing that Dallas +8.5 would be a popular teaser choice for sharps if the tug-of-war settles on +2.5 before kickoff.
MINNESOTA AT CHICAGO:
This could at least be considered as a minor miss by oddsmakers. Chicago opened at -5 or -5.5 in many spotsbut was bet up to the six right away. Many stores saw a point move that wasnt directly tied to a critical number of 3 or 7. So, we have real sharp support here for the Bears. Or, maybe better putreal sharp skepticism about the Vikings. Youll recall sharps werent supporting the Vikes against Detroit last week. Given two weeks of thiswe have to assume sharps have the Vikings rated lower than oddsmakers do in their ratings.
NEW ORLEANS AT TAMPA BAY:
Support has been growing through the week for the Saints as a road favorite. Though, thats been more heavy offshore than in Las Vegas. Were hearing from our sources that sharps like the Saints at -3, but arent too keen on Tampa Bay at +3.5 given the negative headlines that continue to come out of that franchise. The public will probably bet Drew Brees. If YOU want to bet Drew Brees, and youre still seeing -3you should probably take care of business now. Sources anticipate this line being -3.5 of -4 by kickoff.
DETROIT AT ARIZONA:
Most places opened at Detroit pick-em or -1. Sharps hit the visiting Lions with enough support to push the line to -1.5 or -2 in places. Sharps are okay with Arizona +7.5 or +8 in the teaser window, and would definitely come in on the home dog at +3 if the public were to drive the team side line any higher.
JACKSONVILLE AT OAKLAND:
The earlier stores to open had Oakland too low. The Raiders were bet at -4.5 or better out of the gate, and still received support at -5 or -5.5. Jacksonville money did start coming in at +6. And, it came in hard enough to push the line back down to 5.5 in most locales as we went to press. Backers of either team got their preferred price. We may see a tug-of-war on game day between the public on Oakland at -5.5 (and Oakland does have a following in Vegas because of geographic proximity) and sharps on Jacksonville +6.
DENVER AT NY GIANTS:
Oddsmakers anticipated market support for Denver off their big Thursday Night win vs. Baltimore. That caused them to overshoot the mark. Denver opened as a 6-point road favorite in many spots. Home dog money on the Giants came it at that number, as well as +5.5 and even +5. Some stores were testing 4.5 as we went to press. The Manning Bowl will be heavily bet in Las Vegas because its the marquee event of the late afternoon slate. The public is likely to bet Denver and Peyton Manning in the hours before kickoff. Sharps plus New York money will counteract that, creating a very big one-game handle.
SAN FRANCISCO AT SEATTLE:
Too bad this great game is being played so early. These look to be the two best teams in the NFCand some systems would have them as the two best in the whole NFL. Home field advantage is typically worth three points in the NFL. Naturally, Seattle is -3 in this game as a result. Stores are finding more support for the underdog 49ers at that price, so theyre charging -120 vigorish to take the underdog. Interestingbecause some pundits will tell you that Seattle has a larger than average home field advantage. We do believe sharp support for Seattle would come in if the line dropped to -2.5 -120. Will be interesting to see how the public bets this oneand how sportsbooks deal with the number on whats likely to be an extremely popular betting game in Vegas. Part of the current pricing may be anticipating local fan support for the Niners, who have a lot of fans in Nevada.
PITTSBURGH AT CINCINNATI:
Generally speaking, this game opened below Cincinnati -7 and was bet to the key number. Thats a big line adjustment from what had been expected to be -3 or so before the season started. Pittsburgh really did look that bad vs. Tennessee that week! Were hearing sharps would consider Pittsburgh at +7.5, but arent that keen yet on backing them at the seven. They may settle for the underdog +7 before kickoff if the public doesnt bet the favorite higher. Longtime sharps tend to be skeptical of games that move THIS much from prior expectations in such a short time.

Bump this toohere is what he has this week. i like to pay attn. to what he has too:colin cowherd blazing five. dude was good last year.
Cin +3
TB -3
Cle -1
Ten +7
Car +3.5
Lions at Cardinals (+1.5) Rams (+6.5) at Falcons Broncos at Giants (+4.5) Vikings at Bears (-6) Chargers at Eagles (-7.5)
I ended up going to bed around 12:30 because Like RN I couldn't care about the Moneybags fight. I got about a bunch of texts from some Wisconsin fan friends of mine around 2:30 this AM. I was expecting that a Arizona State player shot someone. Hey guys, you're damn right. The ref should have stopped the clock,.... and gave the ball to Arizona state. He never took a knee. You cant just set the ball on the ground and call it the play over.Looks at Wisconsin ML ticket... rips it up.
Yes, Boston College IS that bad.
I have no basis for this whatsoever, other than a gut feeling. I think the Redskins upset the Packers.
Crazy, I know. But I just feel it. I even took GB out of one of my survivor spots and used Houston twice instead.
Indy line is showing -2.5 now with juice. I have it at -3 but even money. Good luck today guys.Getting my picks in early this week as I see lines I think may rise...
Sunday 5
Indianapolis -3 (Even at the moment on BookMaker)
Dallas +3
NO -3
Baltimore -6.5
Ari/Det - Over 47.5 (This seems oddly low)
Good luck if you play any!!
Well, my brain was in the right place.Anyone else think boxing is corrupt enough to give Draw +1200 a chance?
From rotoworld:Billy Bats said:The Bucs are trying to get their coach fired. No chance they beat the Saints.
The way that started and finished, i guess we have to be thankful that we hit the early bird at -6.5. And that ML's and teasers made it through. I can't f'n believe NIU gave up that many points to a team that looked offensively inept its 1st two games. Rain expecting to clear here in Chicago. Thinking of buying out of my over 35-36 (teasers) and 41-42 over plays on the Bears/Vikes.Effin Bama BLOODBATH in here.... we've been betting the Tide with both hands since the line came out months ago.
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And yet the whole world knows this as fact and the number sits at 4.Billy Bats said:From rotoworld:Billy Bats said:The Bucs are trying to get their coach fired. No chance they beat the Saints.
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports there's "some real tension" and a "growing disconnect" between Bucs coach Greg Schiano and Josh Freeman.
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora adds that Freeman is expected to request a trade prior to Ocotber's trade deadline. Per Rapoport, Freeman's frustration comes from Schiano revealing to the media that Freeman was late to a team meeting and has "been late for things before." Dating back to 2012, Freeman has completed barely over 50 percent of his passes and thrown three touchdowns and ten interceptions over his last four games. Freeman is barely on the fantasy radar. It wouldn't be a shock if third-round rookie Mike Glennon made year-one starts.
Stick a fork in these guys.