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FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (8 Viewers)

NFC Champs:

NO +250

NYG +1000

SB Champs:

NO +500

NYG +2000

Matchups:

NYG v. NE +1900

NO v. NE +500

:coffee:

(side note: these are at sportsbook. If I get serious and put some of these in, obviously need to shop around)

(side note: I am not a NYG homer. That said, I watch a lot of their games. Could see them surging here if Bradshaw can have a decent game or two).
Call me crazy but I see real value in taking the Gmen and Pitt to emerge from their respective conferences. I played Pitt to the win the SB and the Gmen to win the NFC in the last couple of weeks at nice odds. I did not play them for more than pocket change however. :bag: Pitt is the most complete team in the AFC. NE, even though they are getting Chung back, is going to struggle with a physical team like Pitt. I also can't see Balt beating Pitt three times in one season. Add to it that Ray Lewis is not 100% healthy by all accounts and I do not think it is all that hard to see Pitt emerging from the AFC. I can see why you like NE, but I personally would rather take the longer odds.

As far as the NFC, the Giants present the most value, IMHO. Neither GB or NO has a defense to speak of and SF can be shut down if you can slow Gore down. The Giants are getting healthy and peaking at the right time. They just got OSI back and may get Ballard back this weekend as well. They have enough of a running game to keep the other team's offense off of the field and a pass rush that will cause matchup problems for other teams offenses. Clearly the Giants will need some breaks to emerge from the NFC, including it would help if SF could beat NO in the likely 2nd round matchup, but I don't think it is completely out of the realm of possibilities.

Full Disclosure.. Gmen :homer: but I'd like to think that I can somewhat objective in my analysis of them.

GLTA

AB
The Steelers are not a complete team this year. Their fatal flaw is the OL. They simply do not control the line of scrimmage. Where it really shows up is in Steelers road games. The Steelers are averaging a pathetic 15.6 points per game on the road (that would be 240 points scored pro-rated for an entire season). In the last three road games, they scored 13, 3, and 13. Now factor in the loss of Mendenhall and that Roethlisberger is probably not gonna be healthy the rest of the way. Now factor in the fact that the Steelers are a wild card team needing to win road playoff games. Not pretty.

Do you think the Steelers will hold Ray Rice and the Ravens under 16? I don't.

 
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Take a quick peek at what LSU did to Oregon, West Virgina, Auburn and Georgia, all of whom looked dominant (until the end of the game, in Georgia's case) in their respective bowl games:http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/99/lsu-tigersMy two BIG bets in the next week will be LSU and a Saints/over parlay (N.O. 52, Detroit 24).I will take a vacation in the French Quarter if all of that comes in.
You can look at Bama and come to the same result. I like bama personally, but I can't argue lsu. Just like the first game I think under is the way to play it. I'm trying to picture 6 TD scored by these teams. The way they run the ball the clock will move.
 
Morning yall.

I guess I'm more part of the day shift now....oh and the night shift too - I never ####### sleep.

I was holding a 1.5 unit to win 1 unit Clemson Moneyline ticket last night and was just too disgusted to come in here other than to brag about going 4-0 in hoops.

Enough of that....starting to handicap early these days for all you with nothing to bet tonight, maybe bmj and I will cross plays for some solid action.

 
The last few days have been the worst gambling stretch of my life. I've cashed one - ONE - ticket. Lost about 10 or 12 others. After the Michigan-Va Tech debacle, I decided not to watch last night. Good thing, I guess. Wow. Down a few more units.

 
Can someone explain why the Bengals +3 (EVEN) or the Giants -3 (EVEN) would be offered? Wouldn't that eliminate the vig, or profits, for the casino? Is this the house saying your a sucker or is it something else?

 
Can someone explain why the Bengals +3 (EVEN) or the Giants -3 (EVEN) would be offered? Wouldn't that eliminate the vig, or profits, for the casino? Is this the house saying your a sucker or is it something else?
bmj :excited:Whehn are you going to release your NCAA Hoops plays today?
 
Take a quick peek at what LSU did to Oregon, West Virgina, Auburn and Georgia, all of whom looked dominant (until the end of the game, in Georgia's case) in their respective bowl games:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/99/lsu-tigers

My two BIG bets in the next week will be LSU and a Saints/over parlay (N.O. 52, Detroit 24).

I will take a vacation in the French Quarter if all of that comes in.
You can look at Bama and come to the same result.

I like bama personally, but I can't argue lsu. Just like the first game I think under is the way to play it. I'm trying to picture 6 TD scored by these teams. The way they run the ball the clock will move.
Agree, Bama and LSU couldn't be more similar. Their statistics are eerily similar. Even when you look at their 6 common opponents (Tenn, Auburn, MSU, Miss, Fla, Ark), Bama outscored them by 173 total points and LSU by 182. Should be a great game but from a gambling perspective, there's no way I'm putting a big bet down on either team. I don't see any edge here.

 
Fensalk, does Pittsburgh getting Pouncey back or Roethlisberger's ankle getting a little bit better week after week, therefore improving his mobility, factor into your thinking that Pitt will be able to put up more points on the road? I think getting Pouncey back on the OL is a bigger deal than most.

 
Can someone explain why the Bengals +3 (EVEN) or the Giants -3 (EVEN) would be offered? Wouldn't that eliminate the vig, or profits, for the casino? Is this the house saying your a sucker or is it something else?
There you are.Do I know you?No but your there, thats where you are. <Austin Powers>
 
Can someone explain why the Bengals +3 (EVEN) or the Giants -3 (EVEN) would be offered? Wouldn't that eliminate the vig, or profits, for the casino? Is this the house saying your a sucker or is it something else?
bmj :excited:Whehn are you going to release your NCAA Hoops plays today?
:lmao: Around 5ish EST, probably
I want to try and be the Big East expert I say I am, but I think the Pitt/DePaul line is one of the most solid lines I've seen this season. Curious if you had any other angles on it really. Feel free to let me know your thoughts off the cuff if you'd like.
 
Are you seriously trying to tell me that they couldn't have save the" Johnnies I don't really give an F bowl" and put it on tonight? For example: the BYU/Tulsa game. Instead of having that on at noon on 12/30 when few can watch that game why not put it on now when we would all watch. Just seems dumb to have a gap now.

 
Can someone explain why the Bengals +3 (EVEN) or the Giants -3 (EVEN) would be offered? Wouldn't that eliminate the vig, or profits, for the casino? Is this the house saying your a sucker or is it something else?
bmj :excited:Whehn are you going to release your NCAA Hoops plays today?
:lmao: Around 5ish EST, probably
I want to try and be the Big East expert I say I am, but I think the Pitt/DePaul line is one of the most solid lines I've seen this season. Curious if you had any other angles on it really. Feel free to let me know your thoughts off the cuff if you'd like.
I'm a Pitt-hater, but I think the line is solid, too ... good spot for them to bounce back with a W
 
Anyone have anything to add on Pitt smu?
It's the most anticipated bowl on Saturday for sure. Other than that, I have nothing. :mellow:
Does that guy with the mustache still coach Pitt? He owes me a lot of money over the years.
I think the Bills just hired him as their Def Coordinator. Not sure Pitt even has a coach right now.
In that case Pitt is a lock.
 
Take a quick peek at what LSU did to Oregon, West Virgina, Auburn and Georgia, all of whom looked dominant (until the end of the game, in Georgia's case) in their respective bowl games:http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/99/lsu-tigersMy two BIG bets in the next week will be LSU and a Saints/over parlay (N.O. 52, Detroit 24).I will take a vacation in the French Quarter if all of that comes in.
You can look at Bama and come to the same result. I like bama personally, but I can't argue lsu. Just like the first game I think under is the way to play it. I'm trying to picture 6 TD scored by these teams. The way they run the ball the clock will move.
until they hit overtime. I don't think this game will be only FGs like the last one. But as we've seen over the past few days, overtime is a definitely possibility. Here's my view on the game:It’s absolutely eerie how similar these teams are. My prognosis doesn’t change much from the first game. If you need to play something, I think LSU +1 is the play here. When you look at the #s the 2 biggest things that stick out is the favor for LSU on Special Teams and Turnover Margin. This was huge in the first game, and I don’t see it being any different now.Biggest difference since that game is that Jarrett Lee won’t be starting for LSU. He turned the ball over twice against Bama. There are a lot of Jefferson critics out there, but he does take care of the ball. It was a different game when he was in against Bama. Plus, over 80% of his playing time this season has been after the Bama game...so plenty of more gametime under his belt. Now sure Saban has a month to plan for that, but Miles has proven an excellent coach in big games with long times to prepare during his LSU tenure. Additionally, Kenny Hillard has emerged as an excelled power back and has a lot more playing time under his belt, so LSU will always be able to play one of their 4 RBs fresh at any time in the game, which is a huge plus against the Bama defense.While it won’t be a Tiger Stadium type crowd, the crowd will still be LSU favored. All signs to me point to an LSU win.All that being said, I have LSU +8 in 2 teaser legs, 2u on LSU-1 that I played too early. I'll likely be including them in some more teasers coupled with NFL games.QuoteOffense: UA - LSU PPG 36.0 – 38.5 Total Offense - 375 Rushing Off. 220 - 215 Passing Off. 213 - 160 First downs 260 - 2643rd down conv % 47.1 – 44.3Penalty yards 404 – 651Punt Return ydg 12.2 – 13.7FG % rank 91 - 1Defense: UA - LSU Scoring Def. 8.8 – 10.5 Total Defense 191 - 252 Rushing Def. 75 - 85Rush def. ypc 2.5 – 2.6Pass Defense 116 - 166 Opp.1st down 10.5 – 14.7 Opp. 3rd conv. 25% - 35% Turnover marg- +6 - +22Opp Punt return yardage 5 - .35
 
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Take a quick peek at what LSU did to Oregon, West Virgina, Auburn and Georgia, all of whom looked dominant (until the end of the game, in Georgia's case) in their respective bowl games:

http://espn.go.com/c...d/99/lsu-tigers

My two BIG bets in the next week will be LSU and a Saints/over parlay (N.O. 52, Detroit 24).

I will take a vacation in the French Quarter if all of that comes in.
You can look at Bama and come to the same result. I like bama personally, but I can't argue lsu. Just like the first game I think under is the way to play it. I'm trying to picture 6 TD scored by these teams. The way they run the ball the clock will move.
until they hit overtime. I don't think this game will be only FGs like the last one. But as we've seen over the past few days, overtime is a definitely possibility. Here's my view on the game:It’s absolutely eerie how similar these teams are. My prognosis doesn’t change much from the first game. If you need to play something, I think LSU +1 is the play here. When you look at the #s the 2 biggest things that stick out is the favor for LSU on Special Teams and Turnover Margin. This was huge in the first game, and I don’t see it being any different now.

Biggest difference since that game is that Jarrett Lee won’t be starting for LSU. He turned the ball over twice against Bama. There are a lot of Jefferson critics out there, but he does take care of the ball. It was a different game when he was in against Bama. Plus, over 80% of his playing time this season has been after the Bama game...so plenty of more gametime under his belt. Now sure Saban has a month to plan for that, but Miles has proven an excellent coach in big games with long times to prepare during his LSU tenure. Additionally, Kenny Hillard has emerged as an excelled power back and has a lot more playing time under his belt, so LSU will always be able to play one of their 4 RBs fresh at any time in the game, which is a huge plus against the Bama defense.

While it won’t be a Tiger Stadium type crowd, the crowd will still be LSU favored. All signs to me point to an LSU win.

All that being said, I have LSU +8 in 2 teaser legs, 2u on LSU-1 that I played too early. I'll likely be including them in some more teasers coupled with NFL games.

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Offense: UA - LSU

PPG 36.0 – 38.5

Total Offense - 375

Rushing Off. 220 - 215

Passing Off. 213 - 160

First downs 260 - 264

3rd down conv % 47.1 – 44.3

Penalty yards 404 – 651

Punt Return ydg 12.2 – 13.7

FG % rank 91 - 1

Defense: UA - LSU

Scoring Def. 8.8 – 10.5

Total Defense 191 - 252

Rushing Def. 75 - 85

Rush def. ypc 2.5 – 2.6

Pass Defense 116 - 166

Opp.1st down 10.5 – 14.7

Opp. 3rd conv. 25% - 35%

Turnover marg- +6 - +22

Opp Punt return yardage 5 - .35
I respect all of that. I got Bama as a rooting interest, I'm not touting it. I do think the Under is a legit play. I understand it wont be all FG again, but I still dont see 6 TD. And if this gets over in OT then so be it.
 
Take a quick peek at what LSU did to Oregon, West Virgina, Auburn and Georgia, all of whom looked dominant (until the end of the game, in Georgia's case) in their respective bowl games:

http://espn.go.com/c...d/99/lsu-tigers

My two BIG bets in the next week will be LSU and a Saints/over parlay (N.O. 52, Detroit 24).

I will take a vacation in the French Quarter if all of that comes in.
You can look at Bama and come to the same result. I like bama personally, but I can't argue lsu. Just like the first game I think under is the way to play it. I'm trying to picture 6 TD scored by these teams. The way they run the ball the clock will move.
until they hit overtime. I don't think this game will be only FGs like the last one. But as we've seen over the past few days, overtime is a definitely possibility. Here's my view on the game:It’s absolutely eerie how similar these teams are. My prognosis doesn’t change much from the first game. If you need to play something, I think LSU +1 is the play here. When you look at the #s the 2 biggest things that stick out is the favor for LSU on Special Teams and Turnover Margin. This was huge in the first game, and I don’t see it being any different now.

Biggest difference since that game is that Jarrett Lee won’t be starting for LSU. He turned the ball over twice against Bama. There are a lot of Jefferson critics out there, but he does take care of the ball. It was a different game when he was in against Bama. Plus, over 80% of his playing time this season has been after the Bama game...so plenty of more gametime under his belt. Now sure Saban has a month to plan for that, but Miles has proven an excellent coach in big games with long times to prepare during his LSU tenure. Additionally, Kenny Hillard has emerged as an excelled power back and has a lot more playing time under his belt, so LSU will always be able to play one of their 4 RBs fresh at any time in the game, which is a huge plus against the Bama defense.

While it won’t be a Tiger Stadium type crowd, the crowd will still be LSU favored. All signs to me point to an LSU win.

All that being said, I have LSU +8 in 2 teaser legs, 2u on LSU-1 that I played too early. I'll likely be including them in some more teasers coupled with NFL games.

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Offense: UA - LSU

PPG 36.0 – 38.5

Total Offense - 375

Rushing Off. 220 - 215

Passing Off. 213 - 160

First downs 260 - 264

3rd down conv % 47.1 – 44.3

Penalty yards 404 – 651

Punt Return ydg 12.2 – 13.7

FG % rank 91 - 1

Defense: UA - LSU

Scoring Def. 8.8 – 10.5

Total Defense 191 - 252

Rushing Def. 75 - 85

Rush def. ypc 2.5 – 2.6

Pass Defense 116 - 166

Opp.1st down 10.5 – 14.7

Opp. 3rd conv. 25% - 35%

Turnover marg- +6 - +22

Opp Punt return yardage 5 - .35
I respect all of that. I got Bama as a rooting interest, I'm not touting it. I do think the Under is a legit play. I understand it wont be all FG again, but I still dont see 6 TD. And if this gets over in OT then so be it.
understand completely. Can't fault anyone for going either side.
 
Take a quick peek at what LSU did to Oregon, West Virgina, Auburn and Georgia, all of whom looked dominant (until the end of the game, in Georgia's case) in their respective bowl games:

http://espn.go.com/c...d/99/lsu-tigers

My two BIG bets in the next week will be LSU and a Saints/over parlay (N.O. 52, Detroit 24).

I will take a vacation in the French Quarter if all of that comes in.
You can look at Bama and come to the same result. I like bama personally, but I can't argue lsu. Just like the first game I think under is the way to play it. I'm trying to picture 6 TD scored by these teams. The way they run the ball the clock will move.
until they hit overtime. I don't think this game will be only FGs like the last one. But as we've seen over the past few days, overtime is a definitely possibility. Here's my view on the game:It’s absolutely eerie how similar these teams are. My prognosis doesn’t change much from the first game. If you need to play something, I think LSU +1 is the play here. When you look at the #s the 2 biggest things that stick out is the favor for LSU on Special Teams and Turnover Margin. This was huge in the first game, and I don’t see it being any different now.

Biggest difference since that game is that Jarrett Lee won’t be starting for LSU. He turned the ball over twice against Bama. There are a lot of Jefferson critics out there, but he does take care of the ball. It was a different game when he was in against Bama. Plus, over 80% of his playing time this season has been after the Bama game...so plenty of more gametime under his belt. Now sure Saban has a month to plan for that, but Miles has proven an excellent coach in big games with long times to prepare during his LSU tenure. Additionally, Kenny Hillard has emerged as an excelled power back and has a lot more playing time under his belt, so LSU will always be able to play one of their 4 RBs fresh at any time in the game, which is a huge plus against the Bama defense.

While it won’t be a Tiger Stadium type crowd, the crowd will still be LSU favored. All signs to me point to an LSU win.

All that being said, I have LSU +8 in 2 teaser legs, 2u on LSU-1 that I played too early. I'll likely be including them in some more teasers coupled with NFL games.

Quote

Offense: UA - LSU

PPG 36.0 – 38.5

Total Offense - 375

Rushing Off. 220 - 215

Passing Off. 213 - 160

First downs 260 - 264

3rd down conv % 47.1 – 44.3

Penalty yards 404 – 651

Punt Return ydg 12.2 – 13.7

FG % rank 91 - 1

Defense: UA - LSU

Scoring Def. 8.8 – 10.5

Total Defense 191 - 252

Rushing Def. 75 - 85

Rush def. ypc 2.5 – 2.6

Pass Defense 116 - 166

Opp.1st down 10.5 – 14.7

Opp. 3rd conv. 25% - 35%

Turnover marg- +6 - +22

Opp Punt return yardage 5 - .35
I respect all of that. I got Bama as a rooting interest, I'm not touting it. I do think the Under is a legit play. I understand it wont be all FG again, but I still dont see 6 TD. And if this gets over in OT then so be it.
understand completely. Can't fault anyone for going either side.
And after seeing Oklahoma State's defense get TORCHED by Stanford, maybe now everyone can admit that the BCS got the right matchup.
 
Was surprised to see this available.

1/7/2012 4:30 PM Odds to win Super Bowl XLVI

963 New Orleans Saints +375

964 Any Other Team -475

 
Biggest play of the year so far

2.5u Southern Utah +6.5

2u Oakland -7.5

1u Cleveland St -16.5

1u Loyola-MD -5

1u Wofford +1

1u Midd Tenn -9

1u Utah +11.5

1u Pacific -4

YTD 118-103 +4.3u

 
:bag: with my Clemson play last night. I need to keep better notes in my notebook. Why I took either side when the over was clearly the best play was a bad move. You think I would of learned my lesson after taking a side in the Ore/Wisky game instead of the over.
 
thanks bmj and bender, i think i will hop along with some of those.

also like the Flyers tonight against the Blackhawks,

 
Tailing bmj on Southern Utah and Oakland

CBB

Michigan +8

NHL

Lightning/Sens o5.5

Leafs in regulation +110

and for craps and giggles a puck line parlay..100 gets you 1100

Bruins

Rangers

Sharks

 
bmj loves fading South Dakota St hard I've noticed.You got something against JackRabbits?
It's a strategy/system, just like Basic Strategy (Wong) teasers. No emotions involved. The better question is what happens when it is a big system play until 6 o'clock, then goes against one of the key system requirements after 6 oclock?
 
Can someone explain why the Bengals +3 (EVEN) or the Giants -3 (EVEN) would be offered? Wouldn't that eliminate the vig, or profits, for the casino? Is this the house saying your a sucker or is it something else?
bmj :excited:Whehn are you going to release your NCAA Hoops plays today?
:lmao: Around 5ish EST, probably
I want to try and be the Big East expert I say I am, but I think the Pitt/DePaul line is one of the most solid lines I've seen this season. Curious if you had any other angles on it really. Feel free to let me know your thoughts off the cuff if you'd like.
I have a 1u on the under 68.5 1st fwiw
 
bmj loves fading South Dakota St hard I've noticed.You got something against JackRabbits?
It's a strategy/system, just like Basic Strategy (Wong) teasers. No emotions involved. The better question is what happens when it is a big system play until 6 o'clock, then goes against one of the key system requirements after 6 oclock?
If you're referencing the southern utah play I'd tell you that the system is broken. BMJ posted it at +6.5 and it's now +5.5, if I could beat every CBB play by 1 pt I'd be a wealthy man.Sportsoptions gave southern utah the "steam play" alert at 6:15pm which is why it got knocked down to 5.5, a group/syndicate/sharp bet southern utahETA: just to expand on this a little more....quite a few of the bmj system plays have been earning the steam play designation after he posted, that's a very good sign
 
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bmj loves fading South Dakota St hard I've noticed.You got something against JackRabbits?
It's a strategy/system, just like Basic Strategy (Wong) teasers. No emotions involved. The better question is what happens when it is a big system play until 6 o'clock, then goes against one of the key system requirements after 6 oclock?
If you're referencing the southern utah play I'd tell you that the system is broken. BMJ posted it at +6.5 and it's now +5.5, if I could beat every CBB play by 1 pt I'd be a wealthy man.Sportsoptions gave southern utah the "steam play" alert at 6:15pm which is why it got knocked down to 5.5, a group/syndicate/sharp bet southern utahETA: just to expand on this a little more....quite a few of the bmj system plays have been earning the steam play designation after he posted, that's a very good sign
Not referencing any specific play. Just a fair question to ask, and something that has crossed my mind if a system requirement reverses, then what? Should have asked the question offline, which is what i'll do. Nothing to see here, carry on :thumbup:
 
I look over stats for hours when I pick College Hoops games. Bmj uses a straight system.

Just curious - is the idea here that systems generally iron themselves out and regress towards an adjustment?

Are the sharps generally using proven system or data, news and stats. Seems there is a stigma against systems around here with quite a few failures noted in this thread. We've got some new College Basketball system here every year for like 5 years now.

 
I look over stats for hours when I pick College Hoops games. Bmj uses a straight system. Just curious - is the idea here that systems generally iron themselves out and regress towards an adjustment?Are the sharps generally using proven system or data, news and stats. Seems there is a stigma against systems around here with quite a few failures noted in this thread. We've got some new College Basketball system here every year for like 5 years now.
I think it's whatever works. Some people old school handicap, some people model, some people use systems, some people combine everything.
 

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