Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
This thread is good for 11 months out of the year, but it really is balls-deep 20 December to 20 January.
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (5 Viewers)
- Thread starter John Bender
- Start date
This thread is good for 11 months out of the year, but it really is balls-deep 20 December to 20 January.
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Dude, wherever you went undergrad/postgrad, you killed it, and that's all that matters after school is over.Things to know about Dr Detroit: The three colleges I wanted to attend were: Northwestern, Columbia, and Dartmouth.
High school GPA: 2.5
Undergrad GPA: 3.4
Graduate GPA: 4.0
Degrees earned from one of those schools: 0.0
I know people that went to schools in the tier of the ones you listed and partied the whole time, exiting with underwhelming GPA's and commensurate jobs.
I went to St. Joe's in Philly, and it was not my first choice. But, I got exactly the same overall undergrad GPA as you did, and am not rich or any thing close, but am comfortable and able to save. I am thankful for what my school made available to me - and what I got out of it, and donate back when it's feasible.
I wanted to be a Comp Sci major out of HS, having taken 2 programming classes (Java and C++) in HS and doing well in them - thought that was the ticket at the time. Realized I was in way over my head first semester in freshman year of college, and bailed into the business school while my GPA was still in tact. If I had went to my first choice school, you can't transfer into the business school there, and I would've been a
Funny how things work out, DD - for the best!
mquinnjr
Footballguy
:Second declension nominative plural:Someone PM Swirvenirvin and have him update the post to include Latin.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
LAS VEGAS -- Last week's 6-1 mark was just what I needed to bounce back from my 2-5 record in Week 14. I'm now within two games of .500 on the season, which is nothing to write home about, but it was an unthinkable goal just a few weeks back.
Insider PickCenterWondering which side to take? Check out PickCenter and do your research before making that critical decision. PickCenter
The only blemish on the record was the Texans plus-6 in their ugly 25-3 loss to the Colts, and fortunately I dropped that from my SuperContest plays as I started 5-0 in the mini-contest over the final three weeks of the season. The wins on the Chargers, Vikings and Ravens were clearly the right sides, while the Bears, Jets and Packers were coin-flips in the end (and the Packers could easily be called the wrong side as you don't often have 7-point underdogs cover when they're down 26-3 at halftime) but they all landed my way.
Hopefully we can continue that combination of skill and luck these final two weeks of the regular season and into the playoffs. There are no more Thursday games, so let's take a look at Sunday's card and the final ESPN "Monday Night Football" game of the season and see how the public and wiseguys are viewing each game. Then I'll give my against-the-spread take.
Last week: 6-1 ATS | Year to date: 49-51-3 (49 percent) ATS
Programming note: I'm no longer eligible for ESPN.com's "Streak for the Cash" contest, but they've asked me to suggest some plays. This is different from picking games against the spread (especially because they mostly have you pick games straight up, and the games are closer to pick 'em), but it's all about win percentages/odds, so I'll tackle those at the end of the column.
Note: Consensus pick percentages from ESPN PickCenter as of late Wednesday night.
Matchup: Miami Dolphins at Buffalo Bills
Spread: Dolphins minus-2.5
Public consensus pick: 76 percent picked Dolphins
Public perception: Both teams won last week but the Dolphins' win over the Patriots is obviously impressing the public more than the Bills' win over the Jaguars. Besides, the Dolphins are trying to get the last AFC wild-card spot and the public gravitates toward teams in "must-win" situations.
Wiseguys' view: I'm seeing even higher percentages on the Dolphins at other bet-tracking sites, so there's clearly sharp money on the Bills that is keeping this from going through the key number of three. The Bills did win the earlier meeting in Miami.
Tuley's take: I often love it when a team wins the earlier meeting and then is getting points in the rematch (and we'll see that in some other games this week), but I'm not going to bite on the Bills here as their win over the Jaguars hardly erases the fact they have mostly been rolled when playing better competition. The Dolphins are clearly playing better with three straight wins and five straight covers. I feel this line should be in excess of a field goal.
The pick: Pass (pool play: Dolphins)
Matchup: New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers
Spread: Panthers minus-3
Public consensus pick: 62 percent picked Panthers
Public perception: The Saints would be expected to get the most betting support, but the Panthers have been picking up followers all season and it doesn't help the Saints' cause that they lost on the road at St. Louis last Sunday.
Wiseguys' view: The sharps have also contributed in driving this line higher. The advance line at the LVH SuperBook a week ago Tuesday was Panthers minus-2.5 and we've seen many books go as high as minus-3.5, but that's where the wiseguys have been buying back on the Saints.
Tuley's take: This is exactly what I was talking about in the previous game. The Saints beat the Panthers 31-13 just two weeks ago and now we're getting them with points. I'm not a big "revenge" handicapper and instead prefer to take the team that has shown it can beat the other team already (especially if now getting points). Granted, the last meeting was in New Orleans and Carolina is 5-1-1 ATS at home this year while the Saints are 1-6 ATS on the road, but I still believe a repeat of the first meeting is more likely than the Panthers turning the tables.
The pick: Saints
Matchup: Dallas Cowboys at Washington Redskins
Spread: Cowboys minus-3
Public consensus pick: 72 percent picked Cowboys
Public perception: After the Cowboys' epic collapse against the Packers, it's a little surprising to see more than 70 percent of the public siding with them again, but that's what the public seems to do with favorites, especially when they're still fighting for a playoff spot against an also-ran.
Wiseguys' view: I haven't heard any sharps cutting in line to back either team at this point. The Redskins, showing life with Kirk Cousins and getting the backdoor cover against the Falcons, will probably be a popular teaser play.
Tuley's take: I wish I could make the case for the home 'dog here. Just like the Dolphins-Bills game, I think this number is too short. Despite getting in the backdoor, the Skins are playing even worse now than they were back when they lost 31-16 at Dallas in Week 6.
The pick: Pass (pool play: Cowboys)
Matchup: Tampa Bay Buccaneers at St. Louis Rams
Spread: Rams minus-5.5
Public consensus pick: 69 percent picked Rams
Public perception: This one is a little surprising with the Rams getting so much public support, as the Bucs had covered five of six games before getting blown out by the 49ers last week. However the public often bets what they've seen most recently and that was the Rams' upset of the Saints at home. Like most favorites in this range, the public will likely be teasing the Rams down to pick 'em.
Wiseguys' view: We'll probably see some buyback on the Bucs at plus-6.
Tuley's take: I might end up betting the Bucs as well if the line continues to rise, but I just prefer other 'dogs on this week's card as Tampa Bay's offense (worst in the league at 283.7 yards per game) is just too inconsistent even with the emergence of running back Bobby Rainey.
The pick: Pass (pool play: Buccaneers)
Matchup: Chicago Bears at Philadelphia Eagles
Spread: Eagles minus-3
Public consensus pick: 53 percent picked Bears
Public perception: Here's the first game with the public siding with the underdog (though it's a close call). Jay Cutler, after a shaky start, rallied the Bears to a win over the Browns while the Eagles were routed by the Vikings with no excuses to be found.
Wiseguys' view: The sharps snapped up the plus-3.5s and the rare plus-4s that this line opened at on Sunday but are pretty split at the current number.
Tuley's take: This could be a shootout as both defenses rank in the bottom six in yards allowed per game. In fact, with the sports books crying about so many overs this season, I was surprised to see the over/under open at "only" 54.5. Sure enough, it's been bet up to 56.5. I still give the edge to the Bears in getting a stop or turnover when they need it.
The pick: Bears
Matchup: Cleveland Browns at New York Jets
Spread: Jets minus-2.5
Public consensus pick: 56 percent picked Jets
Public perception: It's usually easy to see why the public is backing a team (better record, public team, high-scoring offense, etc.), but sometimes it just seems that they go with whomever the oddsmakers deem as the favorite, though at least this isn't by an overwhelming margin.
Wiseguys' view: Sharps quickly snapped up any plus-3s available at the LVH (both last week on the advance line and on Sunday when the line was re-opened). The Browns have the better offense and the better defense, and will be a very popular teaser play, as well.
Tuley's take: This was more tempting at plus-3, but a lot of books are even lower than the minus-2.5 and I was this close to passing, but the more I think about it the more I like the Browns to win outright. They're more consistent with Jason Campbell under center and the defense is still solid (yes, they gave up 38 points to the Bears last week, but on a lot of plays their CBs were in position and Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery simply outfought them for the ball). The defense should be back to shutdown mode against the Jets.
The pick: Browns
Matchup: Indianapolis Colts at Kansas City Chiefs
Spread: Chiefs minus-6.5
Public consensus pick: 73 percent picked Chiefs
Public perception: Since the losses to the Broncos (and Chargers in between), the Chiefs are back on a roll and the public is along for the ride. The Colts usually get more support than this, but they've turned into a Jekyll-and-Hyde team. I'm sure I'll be hearing over the weekend from Vegas bookmakers that the Chiefs are on nearly every teaser ticket.
Wiseguys' view: This has been rising fairly steadily since opening minus-5 at the LVH. Except for those sharps that are helping push it higher, most wiseguys are willing to wait to get a full touchdown on the 'dog.
Tuley's take: Last week against the Raiders, Jamaal Charles scored four of his five TDs on passing plays. I expect him to do more damage rushing the ball this week against the Colts' 30th-ranked run defense. I'm not confident that Andrew Luck can rally per usual against the Chiefs' D (or if they'll even be close enough to do it).
The pick: Pass (pool play: Chiefs).
Matchup: Minnesota Vikings at Cincinnati Bengals
Spread: Bengals minus-7
Public consensus pick: 71 percent picked Bengals
Public perception: PickCenter is showing 71 percent of the public on the Bengals -- and that's with a posted line of minus-7.5. The spread is down to minus-7 at most Vegas books, so that tells me it's likely heading back up to minus-7.5. The Bengals will be another popular teaser play.
Wiseguys' view: The wiseguys already took earlier lines of Vikings plus-8.5 and plus-8 back on Sunday and could reload again at plus-7.5 as the Vikings continue to be competitive the second half of the season with the lone exception being their loss at Seattle. Adrian Peterson is also expected to be back.
Tuley's take: I was fine taking the Vikings last week without Peterson and I think the Vikings can again get the cover like they have in their past four games and six of their past seven. I like the Bengals, too, so I think they bounce back and get the outright victory. I'll pass on the money line but feel we have enough wiggle room with the full touchdown (and likely plus-7.5 by the weekend).
The pick: Vikings
Matchup: Denver Broncos at Houston Texans
Spread: Broncos minus-10.5
Public consensus pick: 70 percent picked Broncos
Public perception: The Broncos lost to the Chargers as a double-digit home favorite, burning a lot of the public's money. They're now laying 10.5 points on the road. But, hey, the public is ready to lay the points with them again. Of course, part of the support is due to the Texans being a league-worst 3-11 ATS, according to the ViewFromVegas NFL ATS Standings in our weekly "Opening Line" column.
Wiseguys' view: Sharps very rarely lay double digits in the NFL and will likely be taking the points with the Texans or passing.
Tuley's take: I know I'll catch flak for this, but I have to do it. Double-digit 'dogs are 16-9-1 ATS (64 percent) this year and home 'dogs of 8 points or more are 27-4 ATS since December 2009 -- and I'm not even counting the Texans' 34-31 spread-covering loss against the Patriots in Week 13 as they closed as a consensus 7-point home 'dog. These two teams are both examples of parity in the NFL. The Texans are terrible yet can play with anyone; the Broncos, who failed to cover against the Jaguars when they were the widely assumed worst team in the league, are no lock to cover their inflated prices.
The pick: Texans
Matchup: Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
Spread: Titans minus-5.5
Public consensus pick: 70 percent picked Jaguars
Public perception: The Jaguars, a team that no one wanted to touch just a month ago, are now a public choice for the second straight week (even after losing to the Bills 27-20). The Titans certainly aren't a public team, but it's still surprising seeing so many people on the Jaguars.
Wiseguys' view: This line has been mostly in that dead area around minus-5 and minus-5.5, and with relatively low handle expected on this matchup with no playoff implications I wouldn't expect much movement.
Tuley's take: Here's another case where we get the winner of the first meeting (Jaguars 29-27 for their first win of the year on Nov. 10) and now getting points, at home no less. Besides, we can certainly argue that the Jaguars are in better form at 4-2 SU and ATS in their past six games while the Titans are 1-5 SU and ATS.
The pick: Jaguars
Matchup: Arizona Cardinals at Seattle Seahawks
Spread: Seahawks minus-10.5
Public consensus pick: 61 percent picked Seahawks
Public perception: The Seahawks are the favorite, so you know the public will be on them. Plus they're at home, where often it doesn't matter by how much they're favored (though they did lose ATS earlier this year to the Titans and Buccaneers). As well as the Cardinals have done this year (9-4-1 ATS after pushing last week, third best behind the Seahawks and 49ers at 10-4 ATS), Arizona isn't likely to be a public team.
Wiseguys' view: Like the Broncos-Texans, the sharps aren't likely to lay the points, and in this case the Cardinals' solid defense and improvement on offense makes it easier to pull the trigger.
Tuley's take: I'm also tempted to take the Cards, but I feel the need to pass on this big 'dog. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they covered, but I'm not encouraged by the way the Seahawks handled them 34-22 in Arizona while struggling on the road against others. This looks like a game where Seattle could just grind it out and pull away in the second half.
The pick: Pass (pool play: Cardinals, probably good contrarian strategy in ATS pools)
Matchup: New York Giants at Detroit Lions
Spread: Lions minus-9
Public consensus pick: 56 percent picked Giants
Public perception: The public is on the Giants here, but it's clearly a case of them fading the Lions. Detroit has had every chance to take control of the NFC North and has let it slip away. The public certainly isn't backing the Giants off their 23-0 home loss to the Seahawks.
Wiseguys' view: The line was minus-9.5 earlier in the week, but even the steady support on the 'dog hasn't moved it down much (and a move from minus-9.5 to minus-9 isn't worth much with minus-9 considered a dead number -- meaning it rarely lands on that margin of victory). If it goes to minus-8.5, that's when you'll see teaser action on the Lions under a field goal and the books would move the line more aggressively.
Tuley's take: As I consider the Giants, I can hear the critics saying "See, all he does is pick 'dogs." Even though I strongly believe you should bet the number of games where you feel you have an edge -- if it's only two games on a weekend, so be it; if it's 10, fire away -- but I still get the feeling I'm landing on too many plays. After winning like last week, I also believe a handicapper has to guard against being overconfident and thinking every game will go their way. So I'm passing on the Giants as an official play even though I think there's value over a TD against an underachieving Detroit team because I'm trying to be selective and stick with my strongest opinions. But I'll be really bummed if it turns into a 'dog afternoon and I don't maximize profits. We'll see what was the right call.
The pick: Pass (pool play: Giants)
Matchup: Oakland Raiders at San Diego Chargers
Spread: Chargers minus-10
Public consensus pick: 67 percent picked Chargers
Public perception: The Chargers upset the Broncos a week ago Thursday, so you know the public will be backing them here, especially as they try to keep their wild-card hopes alive.
Wiseguys' view: This line opened as low as minus-7.5 offshore and early sharps grabbed that and the minus-9.5 at another prominent offshore book, but they're more likely to land on the Raiders at plus-10 and are just waiting to see if they can get plus-10.5 or plus-11.
Tuley's take: The Chargers have been good to me, including against the Broncos to kick off last week's rally, but that has been as a 'dog. Now they're laying double digits? The Raiders, meanwhile, are 3-0 ATS as double-digit 'dogs, and even though they've lost to the Jets and Chiefs the past two weeks, they've put up 27 and 31 points and have shown enough offense to keep pace with the Chargers here.
The pick: Raiders
Matchup: Pittsburgh Steelers at Green Bay Packers
Spread: No Line
Public consensus pick: N/A
Public perception: As of 9 a.m. Vegas time Thursday, there's still no line on this game in Vegas as oddsmakers await official word on Aaron Rodgers' status.
Wiseguys' view: The LVH SuperContest -- which puts up a contest line every Wednesday no matter what -- went with Packers minus-7, obviously speculating that Rodgers will eventually be cleared to play. Otherwise this will likely be closer to pick 'em or maybe even the Steelers as a short favorite.
Tuley's take: I'll pass for now. For pool purposes, I'd suggest taking the Packers if you're in contention but going contrarian with the Steelers if you're looking to make up ground, especially if Rodgers is cleared before your deadline and you suspect everyone will be on the Pack.
The pick: Pass (pool play: split decision, see above)
Matchup: New England Patriots at Baltimore Ravens
Spread: Ravens minus-2.5
Public consensus pick: 66 percent picked Patriots
Public perception: Yes, the Patriots are still more of a public team than the defending world champions. Or maybe it's a vote against the Ravens' all-field goal offense.
Wiseguys' view: The advance line on this game last week was pick 'em, and then adjusted to Ravens as a minus-1.5 point favorite after the Patriots' loss to the Dolphins on Sunday and then to minus-2.5 after the Ravens' Monday night win. The Patriots will be a popular teaser to over a touchdown.
Tuley's take: This should be a game with playoff-type intensity (and the winner will hope it can rest starters in Week 17). Both teams have actually played below expectations most of the season even though they could still both make the playoffs. No matter how badly the Patriots play, they always seem to have a chance to win at the end and I just think they have a better chance to put together a complete game here.
The Patriots' strength is their offense (as inconsistent as it can be, a lot of that is comparisons to their own past greatness) while the Ravens' strength is again their defense, but I trust the Pats' offense to succeed more against the Baltimore D.
The pick: Patriots
Matchup: Atlanta Falcons at San Francisco 49ers
Spread: 49ers minus-12.5
Public consensus pick: 71 percent picked 49ers
Public perception: The 49ers keep rolling along with their 10-4 ATS record and have covered four of their past five heading down the stretch. The public doesn't seem to mind laying the big price, and probably is buying the hype about this being the last regular-season game at Candlestick Park (and likely the final game period if they're only a wild card, which they could already be locked into if the Seahawks beat the Cardinals on Sunday).
Wiseguys' view: Yet another double-digit spread. Sharps grabbed the plus-13s that were available last Sunday. We'll see if they reload.
Tuley's take: While the 49ers are 4-1 ATS in their past five games, the Falcons are 3-1 ATS in their past four games and are playing more like the team we expected at the start of the year. The defense, while still a weak link, is playing better and gives hope that they can keep this to a one-possession game. (Bettor beware: This line could drop if the Seahawks beat the Cardinals and the 49ers are locked into the wild-card spot; if the Cards knock off the Seahawks, this line could climb higher).
The pick: Falcons
Streak for the Cash
When playing this contest, it's doesn't make sense to pick a lot of underdogs, as you don't get any extra points for doing that. So my suggested games will usually be favorites where I haven't been able to make a strong case for the underdog. My pick of the Bears last week extended our winning streak on "best bets" to five:
Best bet: Dolphins over Bills
I usually try to avoid road favorites in contests like this, but the other game I was considering for my best bet was Dallas at Washington. The Dolphins are battling for the last AFC wild-card spot and I don't think this game is any tougher than their recent trips to Pittsburgh and New York. I also feel better about the Dolphins' chances to come through in a tight game like they did last week against the Patriots, unlike the Cowboys.
Confidence meter: 58 percent (this is right around the no-vig money line on this game of around Dolphins minus-140).
Bears over Eagles:
I'm only listing this as a Hail Mary play if your streak is reset to zero by Sunday night. I wouldn't chance it with this game if trying to extend a longer streak since I actually like the Bears to pull the upset. But if you're going by the assumed no-vig money line of around Eagles minus-150, it would give them a 60 percent chance of winning straight-up. Frankly, both teams have issues on defense and either offense is capable of winning in a rout, so that's why I only say to use this is you have nothing to lose.
Confidence meter: 51 percent (my own personal opinion of the Bears' chance to win outright).
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I wouldn't touch the Falcons +20 and I don't agree with the Vikings either. Otherwise, solid stuff.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
HOT TIP
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
¿Qué chingados estan hablando???
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Old school latin.¿Qué chingados estan hablando???
Watching Don Jon. Movie
, go JGL.
This game is making me angry
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Yeah there are no sharps getting in the way of that Niners number. Maybe 14 is the landing spot, but I wouldn't bet against a square book like SB offering 14.5. Last game at the 'Stick ever, place is probably gonna be bat####.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Missed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
4-2 day, I'll take it. 
regularguy
Footballguy
Sorry Tulane backers.
DrD, great job today.
DrD, great job today.
Last edited by a moderator:
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
But Mike Patrick told me he was the best kicker who ever lived!
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Last edited by a moderator:
I thought Buffalo was getting points. Stupid Fresno.Dogs 3-1 S/U today and Tulane and Wazzu were big public plays.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
That line went from Buffalo -2 to SDSU -2 and I think it closed at Buffalo -1. I thought that was a trap, and was right. No reason not to bet Buffalo though from what I saw from SDSU this year and the intangibles the Bulls had, just didn't play out. Fresno was awful, but they did help bring in the over which was my biggest bet of the day. I forgive them.I thought Buffalo was getting points.Stupid Fresno.
Next up, the Beefs!!!!
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Bengals, Pats, Rams, Chiefs and Redskins by 2s and 3s. Bears in a few of the 3s but not fully committed.
Would have rolled Saints in but I just dont trust them on the road, they could lose by 30 tomorrow.
Would have rolled Saints in but I just dont trust them on the road, they could lose by 30 tomorrow.
The Ref
Footballguy
PSA: Even if you are "that guy" who can drink coffee before you go to bed, eventually there will be a night where you are no longer "that guy".
I almost never have trouble going to sleep esp since I gave up the high stress job and moved to Fla. Right now I'm thinking I might be up to see my daughter get up.
I almost never have trouble going to sleep esp since I gave up the high stress job and moved to Fla. Right now I'm thinking I might be up to see my daughter get up.
mquinnjr
Footballguy
FYPThat line went from Buffalo -2 to SDSU -2 and I think it closed at Buffalo -1. I thought that was a trap, and was right. No reason not to bet Buffalo though from what I saw from SDSU this year and the intangibles the Bulls had, just didn't play out. Fresno was awful, but they did help bring in the over which was my biggest bet of the day. I forgive them.I thought Buffalo was getting points.Stupid Fresno.
Next up, theBeefs!Main Event!!!
Frostillicus
Footballguy
La Tech -7.5
Akron -2.5
Akron -2.5
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
Internet down most of the morning.
First batch
YTD 242-177-12 +25.71 units
*1 Pitta over 3 rec -140
*1 James Jones under 4 -125
*.8 S. Smith under 59.5
*1 Charles under 103.5
*.8 Marvin Jones under 41.5
*.9 Doug Baldwin over 48.5
*.9 Eli Manning over 236.5
*.9 J. Gresham under 3
*1 Lamar Miller under 65.5
*1 Sproles over 4 rec
*1 Pierre Thomas over 4 rec
*.9 Santana Moss over 3.5 (E)
*.9 Julius Thomas under 4.5
*.9 Delanie Walker over 4.5 +125
First batch
YTD 242-177-12 +25.71 units
*1 Pitta over 3 rec -140
*1 James Jones under 4 -125
*.8 S. Smith under 59.5
*1 Charles under 103.5
*.8 Marvin Jones under 41.5
*.9 Doug Baldwin over 48.5
*.9 Eli Manning over 236.5
*.9 J. Gresham under 3
*1 Lamar Miller under 65.5
*1 Sproles over 4 rec
*1 Pierre Thomas over 4 rec
*.9 Santana Moss over 3.5 (E)
*.9 Julius Thomas under 4.5
*.9 Delanie Walker over 4.5 +125
jamil
Footballguy
Angry Beavers
Footballguy
Today:
KC/DEN and CIN ML to finish off a parlay started with NHL chalk
NO +3.5 -120
Wash +3 EV
NE PK
Teaser: NO +10,5/KC-.5/Cin -.5/NE +7 pays 2- 1 (bought 7 points)
GLTA
AB
KC/DEN and CIN ML to finish off a parlay started with NHL chalk
NO +3.5 -120
Wash +3 EV
NE PK
Teaser: NO +10,5/KC-.5/Cin -.5/NE +7 pays 2- 1 (bought 7 points)
GLTA
AB
TheGooRoo
Footballguy
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
*.9 Tim Wright under 47.5
*.9 Golden Tate under 4.5
*.9 Andre Brown under 69.5 rush
*.8 P. Rivers under 23.5
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
which ones? I grabbed all these this morning around 11 am. Only one i see different now is baldwin by a few yards
TheGooRoo
Footballguy
Pitta is -200
Smith moved to mid fifties but now otb
Baldwin 52.5 -130
Miller 57.5 -125
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
very werid to take Smith off the board. Looks goof for everyone that didnt get it anyways
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Bills caught some massive steam. Good lord.
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
