FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (11 Viewers)

[Ignoramus]

Chess match-wise, this definitely shapes up as one of the best Super Bowls ever.

i think Lynch can have a good game and be the difference. if San Fran could only contain him so much, i would think he'll be able top run on Denver pretty good. Could be the difference, keeping Manning off the field

New England and San Diego both came into Denver having run the ball very well the past few weeks. Denver shut them both down.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm not so sure Denver isn't the right side. Seattle's performance was less than inspiring. Regardless, this is the classic great offense vs. great defense matchup everyone was hoping for. Hard to bet against Manning with two weeks to look at the SEA D on film.

Yeah but you thought the 49ers would beat them too.

Looked pretty good for most of the game. We're all wrong sometimes.

Who was the only other guy on the over today? You gb.

Oh, and before you take Denver FFAWT buddies, consider this:

Denver 35

Seattle 20

 

[Frostillicus]

I'm not so sure Denver isn't the right side. Seattle's performance was less than inspiring. Regardless, this is the classic great offense vs. great defense matchup everyone was hoping for. Hard to bet against Manning with two weeks to look at the SEA D on film.

Yeah but you thought the 49ers would beat them too.

Looked pretty good for most of the game. We're all wrong sometimes.

Who was the only other guy on the over today? You gb.

Oh, and before you take Denver FFAWT buddies, consider this:

Denver 35

Seattle 20

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[Aaron Rudnicki]

Chess match-wise, this definitely shapes up as one of the best Super Bowls ever.

i think Lynch can have a good game and be the difference. if San Fran could only contain him so much, i would think he'll be able top run on Denver pretty good. Could be the difference, keeping Manning off the field

New England and San Diego both came into Denver having run the ball very well the past few weeks. Denver shut them both down.

Mathews only had 5 carries before leaving with an injury. Patriots didn't really have a chance to commit to the run because they kept going 3 and out early it seemed. Talib injury seemed significant too.

The Chargers with Mathews back in week 15 showed a pretty good gameplan for Seattle I think.

 

[pizzatyme]

Is it just me or has Denver's D been playing pretty well the last few weeks?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Is it just me or has Denver's D been playing pretty well the last few weeks?

they've allowed 13, 14, 17, and 16 points in their last 4 games. pretty impressive stretch but I think Seattle will be able to score on them.

 

[Man In The Box]

Sea +9/ under 54 @SB.

 

[ChainsawU]

Is it just me or has Denver's D been playing pretty well the last few weeks?

Before today they had allowed 20 ppg against the Titans, Chargers, Texans, and Raiders.

 

[ChainsawU]

Broncos are on a 5-game under streak.

 

[Drifter]

Is it just me or has Denver's D been playing pretty well the last few weeks?

they've allowed 13, 14, 17, and 16 points in their last 4 games. pretty impressive stretch but I think Seattle will be able to score on them.

All depends on the run. If Lynch can run, Seattle will win. Denver does have one of the better run Ds in the league just looking at YPC (can't look at total yards with the size of Denver's leads throughout the year).

 

[pizzatyme]

Is it just me or has Denver's D been playing pretty well the last few weeks?

they've allowed 13, 14, 17, and 16 points in their last 4 games. pretty impressive stretch but I think Seattle will be able to score on them.

Is it just me or has Denver's D been playing pretty well the last few weeks?

Before today they had allowed 20 ppg against the Titans, Chargers, Texans, and Raiders.

???

 

[got_nugs]

Man, I wish I was John Fox. Dude will be pulling up a field level lounge chair to watch the superbowl...for free. Denver wins? He's a SB winning coach. Denver loses...it's on Manning.

John freaking Fox.

 

[Drifter]

These teams match up well. O/D matchups, common opponents, quality wins/losses. The one edge I see is the Seahawks horrible loss to the Cardinals.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I grabbed Denver -1.5 -105 at 5D, I'm going to roll with the folks who are pounding Denver early, although I don't think SEA +3 is a bad move. Would feel more confident if Denver didn't have injuries on defense, but Manning getting to go work on a defense that doesn't change things up much is pretty appetizing.

 

[modogg]

Chess match-wise, this definitely shapes up as one of the best Super Bowls ever.

i think Lynch can have a good game and be the difference. if San Fran could only contain him so much, i would think he'll be able top run on Denver pretty good. Could be the difference, keeping Manning off the field

New England and San Diego both came into Denver having run the ball very well the past few weeks. Denver shut them both down.

Mathews only had 5 carries before leaving with an injury. Patriots didn't really have a chance to commit to the run because they kept going 3 and out early it seemed. Talib injury seemed significant too.

The Chargers with Mathews back in week 15 showed a pretty good gameplan for Seattle I think.

another thing that has me leaning Seattle is Harvin should be back. At the least, he will force Denver to keep an eye on him. With it being a concussion, he should be able to begin practicing this week, and should be able to have an impact on the game.

 

[Ignoramus]

Chess match-wise, this definitely shapes up as one of the best Super Bowls ever.

i think Lynch can have a good game and be the difference. if San Fran could only contain him so much, i would think he'll be able top run on Denver pretty good. Could be the difference, keeping Manning off the field

New England and San Diego both came into Denver having run the ball very well the past few weeks. Denver shut them both down.

Mathews only had 5 carries before leaving with an injury. Patriots didn't really have a chance to commit to the run because they kept going 3 and out early it seemed. Talib injury seemed significant too.The Chargers with Mathews back in week 15 showed a pretty good gameplan for Seattle I think.

I'm a homer. Don't listen to me.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I was telling RN about a story from back in the day, and my most valuable High School possession.

It almost fits. That's OG gear right there.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

These teams match up well. O/D matchups, common opponents, quality wins/losses. The one edge I see is the Seahawks horrible loss to the Cardinals.

Well they had little to play for and at the end of the day, Cardinals might have been the third best team in the NFC this year. Saints fans pointed to that game for some hope also, it didn't work.

Again on Manning prep. IMO you can't prepare for Seattle because their personnel is better than yours. Sherman on D Thomas, Maxwell on Welker, Thurmond on Decker and two of the top five safeties in the league. They are going to have to blitz more and I think they will, but Seattle's D matches up well with Manning and crew. On offense they are going to gash Denver with their style and wear them down IMO. I think Wilson will also have a big game running, as Denver's D is nothing like the teams in the NFC west who are just superior sideline to sideline.

And for the record I make very few homer bets here, but I think they win this game in the 27/30-20 range. I'm actually surprised any 49ers fans would fade the Seahawks, I would have made the very same bets on the 49ers. I think they are the two best teams in the NFL.

 

[modogg]

These teams match up well. O/D matchups, common opponents, quality wins/losses. The one edge I see is the Seahawks horrible loss to the Cardinals.

Well they had little to play for and at the end of the day, Cardinals might have been the third best team in the NFC this year. Saints fans pointed to that game for some hope also, it didn't work.

Again on Manning prep. IMO you can't prepare for Seattle because their personnel is better than yours. Sherman on D Thomas, Maxwell on Welker, Thurmond on Decker and two of the top five safeties in the league. They are going to have to blitz more and I think they will, but Seattle's D matches up well with Manning and crew. On offense they are going to gash Denver with their style and wear them down IMO. I think Wilson will also have a big game running, as Denver's D is nothing like the teams in the NFC west who are just superior sideline to sideline.

And for the record I make very few homer bets here, but I think they win this game in the 27/30-20 range. I'm actually surprised any 49ers fans would fade the Seahawks, I would have made the very same bets on the 49ers. I think they are the two best teams in the NFL.

The more i think about it, the more i keep thinking Sea makes sense. One big success SF had today was Kap running, and the threat of him running. Well, we can cross that off the list against Peyton. A non-mobile QB would have probably been sacked a few times in this game.

 

[Drifter]

These teams match up well. O/D matchups, common opponents, quality wins/losses. The one edge I see is the Seahawks horrible loss to the Cardinals.

Well they had little to play for and at the end of the day, Cardinals might have been the third best team in the NFC this year. Saints fans pointed to that game for some hope also, it didn't work.

Again on Manning prep. IMO you can't prepare for Seattle because their personnel is better than yours. Sherman on D Thomas, Maxwell on Welker, Thurmond on Decker and two of the top five safeties in the league. They are going to have to blitz more and I think they will, but Seattle's D matches up well with Manning and crew. On offense they are going to gash Denver with their style and wear them down IMO. I think Wilson will also have a big game running, as Denver's D is nothing like the teams in the NFC west who are just superior sideline to sideline.

And for the record I make very few homer bets here, but I think they win this game in the 27/30-20 range. I'm actually surprised any 49ers fans would fade the Seahawks, I would have made the very same bets on the 49ers. I think they are the two best teams in the NFL.

DD- I respect your football thoughts but this post reads very much like a homer post.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

The more i think about it, the more i keep thinking Sea makes sense. One big success SF had today was Kap running, and the threat of him running. Well, we can cross that off the list against Peyton. A non-mobile QB would have probably been sacked a few times in this game.

Well sure, but (obvious statement of the year) Kaepernick can't make the same throws that Peyton can. He can't find the same weaknesses, and he's not going to take as many dumb delay of game penalties, or terrible throws like that Chancellor INT. Denver's also got a better WR corps. I mean if I'm SF, I don't mind sacrificing Crabtree to Sherman.

Like I said, I'm just following the herd here on Denver, but I can't fault anyone for taking Seattle and a FG or Seattle ML +120.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

These teams match up well. O/D matchups, common opponents, quality wins/losses. The one edge I see is the Seahawks horrible loss to the Cardinals.

Well they had little to play for and at the end of the day, Cardinals might have been the third best team in the NFC this year. Saints fans pointed to that game for some hope also, it didn't work.

Again on Manning prep. IMO you can't prepare for Seattle because their personnel is better than yours. Sherman on D Thomas, Maxwell on Welker, Thurmond on Decker and two of the top five safeties in the league. They are going to have to blitz more and I think they will, but Seattle's D matches up well with Manning and crew. On offense they are going to gash Denver with their style and wear them down IMO. I think Wilson will also have a big game running, as Denver's D is nothing like the teams in the NFC west who are just superior sideline to sideline.

And for the record I make very few homer bets here, but I think they win this game in the 27/30-20 range. I'm actually surprised any 49ers fans would fade the Seahawks, I would have made the very same bets on the 49ers. I think they are the two best teams in the NFL.

DD- I respect your football thoughts but this post reads very much like a homer post.

How so? What in there do you disagree with? I'm ok with someone playing Denver, they are a great team with what I think is the greatest QB ever. I just love the match-ups here for Seattle and think they already played the best team today.

 

[pizzatyme]

Does Sherman switch sides of the field? I thought I heard he stays to one side. If that's the case, then why wouldn't Denver move DT around? Seems like Peyton will just take advantage of this concept, no?

 

[got_nugs]

RJ Bell-sharp money on Denver/Seattle

Omaha

 

[Drifter]

These teams match up well. O/D matchups, common opponents, quality wins/losses. The one edge I see is the Seahawks horrible loss to the Cardinals.

Well they had little to play for and at the end of the day, Cardinals might have been the third best team in the NFC this year. Saints fans pointed to that game for some hope also, it didn't work.

Again on Manning prep. IMO you can't prepare for Seattle because their personnel is better than yours. Sherman on D Thomas, Maxwell on Welker, Thurmond on Decker and two of the top five safeties in the league. They are going to have to blitz more and I think they will, but Seattle's D matches up well with Manning and crew. On offense they are going to gash Denver with their style and wear them down IMO. I think Wilson will also have a big game running, as Denver's D is nothing like the teams in the NFC west who are just superior sideline to sideline.

And for the record I make very few homer bets here, but I think they win this game in the 27/30-20 range. I'm actually surprised any 49ers fans would fade the Seahawks, I would have made the very same bets on the 49ers. I think they are the two best teams in the NFL.

DD- I respect your football thoughts but this post reads very much like a homer post.

How so? What in there do you disagree with? I'm ok with someone playing Denver, they are a great team with what I think is the greatest QB ever. I just love the match-ups here for Seattle and think they already played the best team today.

Cardinals were not the 3rd best team in the league - Carolina, Green Bay (with Rodgers), maybe New Orleans in addition to Seattle and SF.

At the time Seattle had everything to play for. A win wrapped up home field for them. That was also a home game were they also had their perfect home record at stake. Palmer threw up 4 INTs and they still couldn't put up more than 10 pts. Denver's run D is very near to Arizona's looking at ypc and although AZ has a better pass D, I think Seattle will struggle to take advantage of that (Harvin is a wildcard here). In fact, AZ's run D was the best Seattle faced all year, except for what they will face against Denver, again looking at YPC. I also don't see Wilson going crazy running all over them.

I also think you are writing off the most productive pass offense the league has ever seen (with help from the rules). I don't see Sherman playing man on him all gamee, especially with Denver's other big physical receivers. I agree that it's a hell of a match up, but I don't see the Hawks pass D completely shutting down Manning. This is a bigger, more physical group than New Orleans so I don't think the comparisons there mean much. Definitely a tougher game than anything Manning has seen this year.

Russell Wilson is the other unknown here. If the Seahawks can make Denver respect his passing at all, he's going to have a big day rushing. I'm just not sure if he'll be able to do that.

I'm not all over Denver here by any stretch. If the weather is anything but perfect, I'm likely going with the Seahawks. I just thought your writeup was a little over the top given the quality of the matchup.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I think the Cardinals D is a lot better than Denver's. Denver's offense helped make opposing offenses pretty one dimensional and easier to defend.

 

[Drifter]

I think the Cardinals D is a lot better than Denver's.

Overall it absolutely is but I don't think Seattle can take advantage of Denver's weaker pass D which is where the difference is.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

These teams match up well. O/D matchups, common opponents, quality wins/losses. The one edge I see is the Seahawks horrible loss to the Cardinals.

Well they had little to play for and at the end of the day, Cardinals might have been the third best team in the NFC this year. Saints fans pointed to that game for some hope also, it didn't work.

Again on Manning prep. IMO you can't prepare for Seattle because their personnel is better than yours. Sherman on D Thomas, Maxwell on Welker, Thurmond on Decker and two of the top five safeties in the league. They are going to have to blitz more and I think they will, but Seattle's D matches up well with Manning and crew. On offense they are going to gash Denver with their style and wear them down IMO. I think Wilson will also have a big game running, as Denver's D is nothing like the teams in the NFC west who are just superior sideline to sideline.

And for the record I make very few homer bets here, but I think they win this game in the 27/30-20 range. I'm actually surprised any 49ers fans would fade the Seahawks, I would have made the very same bets on the 49ers. I think they are the two best teams in the NFL.

DD- I respect your football thoughts but this post reads very much like a homer post.

How so? What in there do you disagree with? I'm ok with someone playing Denver, they are a great team with what I think is the greatest QB ever. I just love the match-ups here for Seattle and think they already played the best team today.

Cardinals were not the 3rd best team in the league - Carolina, Green Bay (with Rodgers), maybe New Orleans in addition to Seattle and SF.

At the time Seattle had everything to play for. A win wrapped up home field for them. That was also a home game were they also had their perfect home record at stake. Palmer threw up 4 INTs and they still couldn't put up more than 10 pts. Denver's run D is very near to Arizona's looking at ypc and although AZ has a better pass D, I think Seattle will struggle to take advantage of that (Harvin is a wildcard here). In fact, AZ's run D was the best Seattle faced all year, except for what they will face against Denver, again looking at YPC. I also don't see Wilson going crazy running all over them.

I also think you are writing off the most productive pass offense the league has ever seen (with help from the rules). I don't see Sherman playing man on him all gamee, especially with Denver's other big physical receivers. I agree that it's a hell of a match up, but I don't see the Hawks pass D completely shutting down Manning. This is a bigger, more physical group than New Orleans so I don't think the comparisons there mean much. Definitely a tougher game than anything Manning has seen this year.

Russell Wilson is the other unknown here. If the Seahawks can make Denver respect his passing at all, he's going to have a big day rushing. I'm just not sure if he'll be able to do that.

I'm not all over Denver here by any stretch. If the weather is anything but perfect, I'm likely going with the Seahawks. I just thought your writeup was a little over the top given the quality of the matchup.

I don't think Seattle is going to kill them, I'm not trying to say that. Betting against Peyton Manning is asking for trouble, I appreciate his genius more than almost any athlete in my lifetime.

I disagree on Seattle having everything to play for vs Arizona, they just had to win one of their final two games at home to clinch homefield. Athletes are like this, they let up when they think they have a cushion and Arizona was playing for their playoff lives. Remember that Arizona beat Carolina handily, and the Colts by 30. Arizona also had the #1 rush D, they are quite a bit better than Denver considering how much teams ran vs both teams. I don't think the Broncos have the personnel the Cardinals have and NFL stats are skewed by margin of victory and game scenarios. Denver got way up against teams, and there are no defenses in the AFC like the NFC West or Carolina. I think maybe the Jets who Denver didn't play.

They have six common opponents which I think is of some value. Problem is they both went 5-1 vs those teams, and both lost to the same team. They have differing styles and approach and I think they are both well-coached.

Seems like a great match-up. Vegas has this as a tight one, we are debating the merits of the teams, and they are as great yet different as sports teams get. How much fun is this gonna be?

 

[Raider Nation]

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[Frostillicus]

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That's weird.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

WE WANT BRONG!!!!

WE WANT BRONG!!!!

WE WANT BRONG!!!!

 

[Raider Nation]

There have been four prior Super Bowls in which the #1 offense has faced the #1 defense. The #1 defense won 3 out of 4. Make of that what you will -- a few of those games were in a very different era when guys were actually allowed to play defense.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

There have been four prior Super Bowls in which the #1 offense has faced the #1 defense. The #1 defense won 3 out of 4. Make of that what you will -- a few of those games were in a very different era when guys were actually allowed to play defense.

Not to imply it had any bearing on the outcome of the game, but that personal foul call on Whitner was utterly depressing.

 

[ScoobySnack]

I may not sleep for the next 2 weeks. Should be a classic game. May have to try and get a ticket for this one since I could walk to the stadium. My initial thought is Seattle does what they do and wins a close, low scoring game. 24-21 Seahawks.

Except you can't walk to the stadium. You would have to shell out like $50 for a transportation pass.

 

[Otis]

I'm not so sure Denver isn't the right side. Seattle's performance was less than inspiring. Regardless, this is the classic great offense vs. great defense matchup everyone was hoping for. Hard to bet against Manning with two weeks to look at the SEA D on film.

I agree with this. SEA should have lost this game. They were not that impressive. DEN didn't break a sweat with the Pats. Den by 10 points and the OVER.

 

[lumpy19]

I'm not so sure Denver isn't the right side. Seattle's performance was less than inspiring. Regardless, this is the classic great offense vs. great defense matchup everyone was hoping for. Hard to bet against Manning with two weeks to look at the SEA D on film.

I agree with this. SEA should have lost this game. They were not that impressive. DEN didn't break a sweat with the Pats. Den by 10 points and the OVER.

Yup...I agree

 

[swirvenirvin]

Does Sherman switch sides of the field? I thought I heard he stays to one side. If that's the case, then why wouldn't Denver move DT around? Seems like Peyton will just take advantage of this concept, no?

he doesnt move except for one time this yr he shadowed boldin

 

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Has sea faced a team that spreads the ball with Dink and dunk offense similar to Denver this year?

 

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Got DEN -2.5 -120 at Sportsbook... on it fairly big for me.

 

[swirvenirvin]

Im no college basketball guy (so fade) but OSU has to rebound from 3 straight losses right

 

[JaxBill]

Is it just me or has Denver's D been playing pretty well the last few weeks?

they've allowed 13, 14, 17, and 16 points in their last 4 games. pretty impressive stretch but I think Seattle will be able to score on them.

All depends on the run. If Lynch can run, Seattle will win. Denver does have one of the better run Ds in the league just looking at YPC (can't look at total yards with the size of Denver's leads throughout the year).

This

 

[tonydead]

I'm not so sure Denver isn't the right side. Seattle's performance was less than inspiring. Regardless, this is the classic great offense vs. great defense matchup everyone was hoping for. Hard to bet against Manning with two weeks to look at the SEA D on film.

I agree with this. SEA should have lost this game. They were not that impressive. DEN didn't break a sweat with the Pats. Den by 10 points and the OVER.

Yup...I agree

I was expecting the line to open at something like Denver -6.0. What am I missing?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I was expecting the line to open at something like Denver -6.0. What am I missing?

that Seattle is the better team?

 

[tonydead]

I was expecting the line to open at something like Denver -6.0. What am I missing?

that Seattle is the better team?

Is that why is moved from PK to -3.0?

I'm taking Seattle and all the points I can get, fwiw.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I was expecting the line to open at something like Denver -6.0. What am I missing?

that Seattle is the better team?

Is that why is moved from PK to -3.0?

I'm taking Seattle and all the points I can get, fwiw.

It's a close matchup. I'm surprised by the early line movement but took Seattle with the FG.

I assume people are basing it off two things:

#1 Seattle didn't win very impressively this week while Denver did (I think the 49ers are a significantly tougher matchup than the Patriots)

#2 Seattle will be hurt more by losing their home field advantage (Denver's HFA seems pretty huge as well, and always has been that way).

 

[Ghost Rider]

There have been four prior Super Bowls in which the #1 offense has faced the #1 defense. The #1 defense won 3 out of 4. Make of that what you will -- a few of those games were in a very different era when guys were actually allowed to play defense.

The quarterbacks of those number 1 offenses were also no Peyton Manning. See: Rich Gannon, for example.

 

[John Bender]

Took Denver at -2.5 with hopes to get Seattle at +3.5

Any chance this keeps steaming off the key number?

 

[mquinnjr]

Took Denver at -2.5 with hopes to get Seattle at +3.5

Any chance this keeps steaming off the key number?

It's going to take a ton of Denver money at -3 to move to Seahawks +3.5. I like this strategy, though. I like Denver under a FG, but would take Seattle in a teaser over a TD. If it goes to +3.5, I'd be really tempted to eat the vig and take them to +10.5 in a 7-point teaser.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I'm not so sure Denver isn't the right side. Seattle's performance was less than inspiring. Regardless, this is the classic great offense vs. great defense matchup everyone was hoping for. Hard to bet against Manning with two weeks to look at the SEA D on film.

I agree with this. SEA should have lost this game. They were not that impressive. DEN didn't break a sweat with the Pats. Den by 10 points and the OVER.

i'm wondering how many points Wilson can put up against Denver's defense.

 

[lumpy19]

Took Denver at -2.5 with hopes to get Seattle at +3.5

Any chance this keeps steaming off the key number?

It's going to take a ton of Denver money at -3 to move to Seahawks +3.5. I like this strategy, though. I like Denver under a FG, but would take Seattle in a teaser over a TD. If it goes to +3.5, I'd be really tempted to eat the vig and take them to +10.5 in a 7-point teaser.

What exactly do you plan on teasing seattle with?