cant believe he charges 10% on the coin toss!!! Most books will do 5 or 1% for this, love the strategy tho100% truth - not shtick.got_nugs said:Genius!!!!!!!The Ref said:I finally decided what I'm going to do for the coin toss. I like Heads. Real talk - I'm betting $50 on Tails at Kurts Site and then I'm betting $150 on Heads somewhere else.
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The Coin will land on? - Super Bowl XLVIII Props - Seattle vs Denver 02/02/1406:00PM
2402 TAILS -110 55 50 Accepted
Jan 31, 2014 08:45:11 AMSingle #332139947
Football - NFL Team Props (Prop) Moneyline
SUPER BOWL XLVIII - Coin Toss
Heads -105 Feb 02/14@06:30p
Competitor: Tails
Web US$ 150.00 US$ 142.86
yeah doesnt't look good. I didnt link to the thread, but I mentioned the guy who used to set the lines for this prop set it at 2:22 this yr...OK.... I'll admit it. The National Anthem Bet.... I'm.
That under is getting hammered.
Anything over 2 min is a long version..... but this lady is a hambone.
Well I guess we will see. If shes out there and its piped in background music then Im going to write it off before she even starts. If there are even a small handful of instruments out there with her, she may set a record.yeah doesnt't look good. I didnt link to the thread, but I mentioned the guy who used to set the lines for this prop set it at 2:22 this yr...OK.... I'll admit it. The National Anthem Bet.... I'm.
That under is getting hammered.
Anything over 2 min is a long version..... but this lady is a hambone.
I don't think I get this one. Both cities have roughly the same amount of people, but wouldn't Seattle have bigger ratings just based on never have won the Super Bowl before?The Ref said:Missed this one..... I like it. Booked.swirvenirvin said:*1 Which region will have higher local tv rating - Denver -130 - http://www.sportsbus.../NFL-local.aspx
did you look at the article he linked?I don't think I get this one. Both cities have roughly the same amount of people, but wouldn't Seattle have bigger ratings just based on never have won the Super Bowl before?The Ref said:Missed this one..... I like it. Booked.swirvenirvin said:*1 Which region will have higher local tv rating - Denver -130 - http://www.sportsbus.../NFL-local.aspx
I guess I just want to know why is Denver favored here?
Yes. but it's based on the regular season, and the trend of Seattle bring up 37% says to me that more Seattle fans will be tuned in than Denver. Unless I'm missing something.did you look at the article he linked?I don't think I get this one. Both cities have roughly the same amount of people, but wouldn't Seattle have bigger ratings just based on never have won the Super Bowl before?The Ref said:Missed this one..... I like it. Booked.swirvenirvin said:*1 Which region will have higher local tv rating - Denver -130 - http://www.sportsbus.../NFL-local.aspx
I guess I just want to know why is Denver favored here?
Denver's up too.Yes. but it's based on the regular season, and the trend of Seattle bring up 37% says to me that more Seattle fans will be tuned in than Denver. Unless I'm missing something.did you look at the article he linked?I don't think I get this one. Both cities have roughly the same amount of people, but wouldn't Seattle have bigger ratings just based on never have won the Super Bowl before?The Ref said:Missed this one..... I like it. Booked.swirvenirvin said:*1 Which region will have higher local tv rating - Denver -130 - http://www.sportsbus.../NFL-local.aspx
I guess I just want to know why is Denver favored here?
True. Then why not just take the +110 instead of the -150 (Bovada now)? It just seems to me the odds should be much closer. But then again, I'm not good at props and lose a lot.Denver's up too.Yes. but it's based on the regular season, and the trend of Seattle bring up 37% says to me that more Seattle fans will be tuned in than Denver. Unless I'm missing something.did you look at the article he linked?I don't think I get this one. Both cities have roughly the same amount of people, but wouldn't Seattle have bigger ratings just based on never have won the Super Bowl before?The Ref said:Missed this one..... I like it. Booked.swirvenirvin said:*1 Which region will have higher local tv rating - Denver -130 - http://www.sportsbus.../NFL-local.aspx
I guess I just want to know why is Denver favored here?
It's not like either team came out of nowhere this year. How many people on either side are left to jump on the bandwagon?
I would also keep in mind that Seattle has the bigger Nielson audience. Not sure what the bet is, but I wouldn't bet the Denver media market having a higher rating than Seattle/Tacoma if that's what it is.Denver's up too.Yes. but it's based on the regular season, and the trend of Seattle bring up 37% says to me that more Seattle fans will be tuned in than Denver. Unless I'm missing something.did you look at the article he linked?I don't think I get this one. Both cities have roughly the same amount of people, but wouldn't Seattle have bigger ratings just based on never have won the Super Bowl before?The Ref said:Missed this one..... I like it. Booked.swirvenirvin said:*1 Which region will have higher local tv rating - Denver -130 - http://www.sportsbus.../NFL-local.aspx
I guess I just want to know why is Denver favored here?
It's not like either team came out of nowhere this year. How many people on either side are left to jump on the bandwagon?
I'm going to retire +1500There should be a line for this.
If the Broncos win the Super Bowl and a reporter says to Manning "Hey, Peyton. You just won the Super Bowl. What are you going to do next?", what does he say...
I'm going to Disney Land -300
I'm going to Omaha +500
I'm leaving ft myers now....be there by sundown.Got a bunch of pals flying down for the weekend tonight with the highlight being watching the SB outdoors. Had the pool heater on since yesterday hired some maids to come in special today for a total house cleansing and I already have 3 cases of beer on ice along side the New York strips.
Pray for me. The last time they were down I almost didn't make it through the weekend alive. I had the worst hangover of my life. We went golfing and the 6 of us finished a bottle of Patron at the turn before we went back out. One GB had a $1.7K credit card bill from the strip joint.... Not all that bad until he realized he had another card out with another $1.2K on it he forgot about. I called a limo at 3AM to take us to the pats game at 7AM because apparently I kept saying "we will never make it". I woke up to some dude in a Tux pounding on my door. "dude WTF do you want?" He replyed "Ha... I knew it... You must be The Ref.... Don't remember our phone calm a few hours ago do you?". Apparently he made me pre pay.... So we had to go.... Smart on his behalf.
Anyway I'm not sure how much ill be checking in. Good luck on Sunday men. Let's make some $$.
the bet is on the % of households in each market watching the game so I don't think the size would really matter here, would it?I would also keep in mind that Seattle has the bigger Nielson audience. Not sure what the bet is, but I wouldn't bet the Denver media market having a higher rating than Seattle/Tacoma if that's what it is.
PM means come by... Knock on the door and say "hi I'm from the internet"I'm leaving ft myers now....be there by sundown.Have fun!Got a bunch of pals flying down for the weekend tonight with the highlight being watching the SB outdoors. Had the pool heater on since yesterday hired some maids to come in special today for a total house cleansing and I already have 3 cases of beer on ice along side the New York strips.
Pray for me. The last time they were down I almost didn't make it through the weekend alive. I had the worst hangover of my life. We went golfing and the 6 of us finished a bottle of Patron at the turn before we went back out. One GB had a $1.7K credit card bill from the strip joint.... Not all that bad until he realized he had another card out with another $1.2K on it he forgot about. I called a limo at 3AM to take us to the pats game at 7AM because apparently I kept saying "we will never make it". I woke up to some dude in a Tux pounding on my door. "dude WTF do you want?" He replyed "Ha... I knew it... You must be The Ref.... Don't remember our phone calm a few hours ago do you?". Apparently he made me pre pay.... So we had to go.... Smart on his behalf.
Anyway I'm not sure how much ill be checking in. Good luck on Sunday men. Let's make some $$.
The person that posted the picture of a nerd or hippie for Seattle, made me think those types will have large parties. Bill Burr on Conan was great last night talking about how much superbowl parties suck and real fans watch by themselves. I say larger parties only taking up one household would go to Seattle thus favoring Denver.the bet is on the % of households in each market watching the game so I don't think the size would really matter here, would it?I would also keep in mind that Seattle has the bigger Nielson audience. Not sure what the bet is, but I wouldn't bet the Denver media market having a higher rating than Seattle/Tacoma if that's what it is.
Yeah I can't open that link from here so that is why I asked. If it's percentage of households that would be ok, gross Nielson I would guess goes to Seattle/Tacoma.the bet is on the % of households in each market watching the game so I don't think the size would really matter here, would it?I would also keep in mind that Seattle has the bigger Nielson audience. Not sure what the bet is, but I wouldn't bet the Denver media market having a higher rating than Seattle/Tacoma if that's what it is.
mquinnjr said:Awesome article, thanks for posting RN.Raider Nation said:Love this part:Raider Nation said:
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Yeah I can't open that link from here so that is why I asked. If it's percentage of households that would be ok, gross Nielson I would guess goes to Seattle/Tacoma.the bet is on the % of households in each market watching the game so I don't think the size would really matter here, would it?I would also keep in mind that Seattle has the bigger Nielson audience. Not sure what the bet is, but I wouldn't bet the Denver media market having a higher rating than Seattle/Tacoma if that's what it is.
not sure if that's legible or not, but the Broncos beat Seattle in each of the past 3 years on average during the regular season. The gap was smaller in 2013 than it's been though.NFL teams averaged a 28.5 local rating in their respective home markets for regular-season game telecasts in '13, up 4% from '12 and up 3% from '11. The Saints once again led all teams with a 52.0 local rating in New Orleans, up 14% from last season. The Chiefs saw the biggest local jump, with ratings in K.C. up 41%. Also seeing strong year-over-year gains were the Seahawks, up 37% over '12 and 77% over '11 in Seattle-Tacoma. The Falcons saw the sharpest drop in local ratings, down 22% in Atlanta. The Steelers also saw a double-digit percentage drop (-14% in Pittsburgh). The Raiders had the lowest local rating among all NFL teams for at least the third straight season. Ten clubs have seen two straight years of local declines (Giants, Jets, Falcons, Rams, Packers, Steelers, Patriots, Ravens, Cowboys, Jaguars).
NFL TEAMS' LOCAL MARKET AVERAGE RATING DURING REGULAR SEASONTEAM TV MARKET'13'12'111-YR % +/-2-YR % +/-Broncos Denver43.537.231.8+17%+37%Seahawks Seattle-Tacoma38.628.321.8+37%+77%
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Already very happy I waited on this. The public usually nudges the over and the favorite the closer we get to game time, and that's what's happening. That 3 and 47 at Bovada is now 3 -135 (should be 3.5 by Sunday) and 48 with the over shaded. Getting the Seahawks +10.5 is juicy as hell, and waiting for 48.5 is key. That gets us to 55.5 in a 7-point teaser. That means you cash a 31-24 final... a very common score.I cant say for sure, but Bovada has shown me the past few weeks that they wont move off of 3 once they get there. Case in point the rest o the world had Sea -3.5 but Bovada stuck with Sea -3 -140.Need some advice here. First, read what Fezzik tweeted today:
My question is, I'm looking at a 2-team, 7-point teaser at Bovada. Ties do not lose.Steve Fezzik @FezzikSports
IF you like SB OVER, it's now or never to get OVER 47....
It's currently sitting at 3 & 47. So the options are two of the following:
Denver +4
Seattle +10
Under 54
Over 40
I have to go with SEA +10 on general principle. As for the totals, I think both sides are pretty safe, honestly. But according to Fezzik (and others), that total will only be going up as we get closer to game time and the weather situation proves to be a non-factor.
If I decide to tease the under, it would certainly be wise to wait until Sunday afternoon, correct? The only thing I'm afraid of in that scenario is Seattle steaming, and +10 would no longer be available.
My long-winded question is, if you like a SEA/under teaser.... put it in now, or wait?
It would take a big move to get Bovada off the 3 at this point.
Jesus hammer away at +3 +115, that's a ridiculously awesome lineAlready very happy I waited on this. The public usually nudges the over and the favorite the closer we get to game time, and that's what's happening. That 3 and 47 at Bovada is now 3 -135 (should be 3.5 by Sunday) and 48 with the over shaded. Getting the Seahawks +10.5 is juicy as hell, and waiting for 48.5 is key. That gets us to 55.5 in a 7-point teaser. That means you cash a 31-24 final... a very common score.I cant say for sure, but Bovada has shown me the past few weeks that they wont move off of 3 once they get there. Case in point the rest o the world had Sea -3.5 but Bovada stuck with Sea -3 -140.Need some advice here. First, read what Fezzik tweeted today:
My question is, I'm looking at a 2-team, 7-point teaser at Bovada. Ties do not lose.Steve Fezzik @FezzikSports
IF you like SB OVER, it's now or never to get OVER 47....
It's currently sitting at 3 & 47. So the options are two of the following:
Denver +4
Seattle +10
Under 54
Over 40
I have to go with SEA +10 on general principle. As for the totals, I think both sides are pretty safe, honestly. But according to Fezzik (and others), that total will only be going up as we get closer to game time and the weather situation proves to be a non-factor.
If I decide to tease the under, it would certainly be wise to wait until Sunday afternoon, correct? The only thing I'm afraid of in that scenario is Seattle steaming, and +10 would no longer be available.
My long-winded question is, if you like a SEA/under teaser.... put it in now, or wait?
It would take a big move to get Bovada off the 3 at this point.
sportsbook said they do not offer this anymore. Anything else from a decent book?Sportsbook. 25% match up to $2k deposit ($500 free bet)BumpPumpnick said:does anyone know of a good first time deposit bonus going on now?
I cannot join Bovada from New York eithersportsbook said they do not offer this anymore. Anything else from a decent book?Sportsbook. 25% match up to $2k deposit ($500 free bet)BumpPumpnick said:does anyone know of a good first time deposit bonus going on now?
Might fund Bovada just to get this, my local site is sitting on -2 Broncos right now. I love the Seahawks over a TD+FG with the hook and the under. I have a relative to my normal units boatload on the Broncos -2.5 from Vegas, so I'll take this hedgeAlready very happy I waited on this. The public usually nudges the over and the favorite the closer we get to game time, and that's what's happening. That 3 and 47 at Bovada is now 3 -135 (should be 3.5 by Sunday) and 48 with the over shaded. Getting the Seahawks +10.5 is juicy as hell, and waiting for 48.5 is key. That gets us to 55.5 in a 7-point teaser. That means you cash a 31-24 final... a very common score.I cant say for sure, but Bovada has shown me the past few weeks that they wont move off of 3 once they get there. Case in point the rest o the world had Sea -3.5 but Bovada stuck with Sea -3 -140.Need some advice here. First, read what Fezzik tweeted today:
My question is, I'm looking at a 2-team, 7-point teaser at Bovada. Ties do not lose.Steve Fezzik @FezzikSports
IF you like SB OVER, it's now or never to get OVER 47....
It's currently sitting at 3 & 47. So the options are two of the following:
Denver +4
Seattle +10
Under 54
Over 40
I have to go with SEA +10 on general principle. As for the totals, I think both sides are pretty safe, honestly. But according to Fezzik (and others), that total will only be going up as we get closer to game time and the weather situation proves to be a non-factor.
If I decide to tease the under, it would certainly be wise to wait until Sunday afternoon, correct? The only thing I'm afraid of in that scenario is Seattle steaming, and +10 would no longer be available.
My long-winded question is, if you like a SEA/under teaser.... put it in now, or wait?
It would take a big move to get Bovada off the 3 at this point.
Weird. I'm staring at SEA +3 (+115) right now.I'm seeing +3 with even vig at Bovada right now.
When I go to Bovada without logging in, I just see +3/-3 with no vig in parentheses on either.Weird. I'm staring at SEA +3 (+115) right now.I'm seeing +3 with even vig at Bovada right now.
Bad layout. That's the ML side-by-side.Weird. I'm staring at SEA +3 (+115) right now.I'm seeing +3 with even vig at Bovada right now.
Got the same thing here. Bovada shades their lines for people they consider "sharp."When I go to Bovada without logging in, I just see +3/-3 with no vig in parentheses on either.Weird. I'm staring at SEA +3 (+115) right now.I'm seeing +3 with even vig at Bovada right now.
After I log in, I see the following:
SEA +3 (-120)
DEN -3 (Even)
ML
SEA +115
DEN -135
Also have the +3 (-120), does this mean I'm sharp.Got the same thing here. Bovada shades their lines for people they consider "sharp."When I go to Bovada without logging in, I just see +3/-3 with no vig in parentheses on either.Weird. I'm staring at SEA +3 (+115) right now.I'm seeing +3 with even vig at Bovada right now.
After I log in, I see the following:
SEA +3 (-120)
DEN -3 (Even)
ML
SEA +115
DEN -135