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Finding the next Brandon Jackson (1 Viewer)

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So Im sure not everyone has grabbed their RBs handcuffs

The injury to RGrant has all the Grant owners scrambling to grab him. And you have to worry other owners blowing their whole blind bid $ on him.

So lets be proactive and if you have the room add some of these players now. (re-draft only obviously)

- Bernard Scott - Has talent and home run hitting ability. If Benson goes down grab him

- Mike Tolbert - now he would split with Sproles some but the bulk of the carries would go to Tolbert if Mathews is hurt

- Mike Bell - given the injury to Weaver, he looks to be the primary backup to LeSean McCoy

- Donald Brown - He should be rostered but incase he isnt he should be.

Anyone else??

 
As I pointed out in a pre-week 1 handcuff thread, Javon Ringer is the only other backup (along with Bjax entering the season) who is set up to be a feature back who would likely get three-down work if the starter goes down.

Others worth rostering who might be out there:

Tashard Choice

Jason Snelling

Isaac Redman

Toby Gerhart

Anthony Dixon

Rashad Jennings

Mike Tolbert

Earnest Graham/Kareem Huggins

Kenneth Darby

Chris Ivory (once healthy)

 
So Im sure not everyone has grabbed their RBs handcuffsThe injury to RGrant has all the Grant owners scrambling to grab him. And you have to worry other owners blowing their whole blind bid $ on him.So lets be proactive and if you have the room add some of these players now. (re-draft only obviously) - Bernard Scott - Has talent and home run hitting ability. If Benson goes down grab him - Mike Tolbert - now he would split with Sproles some but the bulk of the carries would go to Tolbert if Mathews is hurt - Mike Bell - given the injury to Weaver, he looks to be the primary backup to LeSean McCoy - Donald Brown - He should be rostered but incase he isnt he should be. Anyone else??
Good topic MOP....and although most of these were drafted (as was Jackson in most leagues), for those who have room on their rosters or NEED an extra bullet that would give them a starter later.....not in any particular order or ranking....Javon Ringer, TennesseeRashad Jennings - JacksonvilleChris Ivory - New OrleansTashard Choice - DallasKeiland Williams - WashingtonJames Davis - ClevelandJason Snelling - AtlantaKareem Huggins - Tampa BayToby Gerhart - MinnesotaAnthony Dixon - San Francisco
 
So Im sure not everyone has grabbed their RBs handcuffs

The injury to RGrant has all the Grant owners scrambling to grab him. And you have to worry other owners blowing their whole blind bid $ on him.

So lets be proactive and if you have the room add some of these players now. (re-draft only obviously)

- Bernard Scott - Has talent and home run hitting ability. If Benson goes down grab him

- Mike Tolbert - now he would split with Sproles some but the bulk of the carries would go to Tolbert if Mathews is hurt

- Mike Bell - given the injury to Weaver, he looks to be the primary backup to LeSean McCoy

- Donald Brown - He should be rostered but incase he isnt he should be.

Anyone else??
Good topic MOP BSS....and although most of these were drafted (as was Jackson in most leagues), for those who have room on their rosters or NEED an extra bullet that would give them a starter later.....not in any particular order or ranking....Javon Ringer, Tennessee

Rashad Jennings - Jacksonville

Chris Ivory - New Orleans

Tashard Choice - Dallas

Keiland Williams - Washington

James Davis - Cleveland

Jason Snelling - Atlanta

Kareem Huggins - Tampa Bay

Toby Gerhart - Minnesota

Anthony Dixon - San Francisco
Fixed, and I think Albert Young got some work week1 vs NO, Is Gerhardt healthy. Keiland Williams feels more like a dynasty prospect, Those mentioning tashard Choice, thats a 3 headed monster and usually the other 2 guys do get dingd up.

 
Is it clear which guy is the starter in Cleveland? I honestly don't know which guy is starting, Hillis or Harrison but I think the other could be a decent handcuff.

When I look at handcuffs I like to see what their upside might be. If Forsett goes down and Leon takes the job...meh. If Bernard Scott becomes the man I'm looking at a borderline top 10 stud!

 
As I pointed out in a pre-week 1 handcuff thread, Javon Ringer is the only other backup (along with Bjax entering the season) who is set up to be a feature back who would likely get three-down work if the starter goes down.
Bernard Scott?
:goodposting: Exactly what I was thinking. Scott would be the feature back and get 3-down work if Benson were to go down.ETA: McGahee might be the feature back and get 3-down work as well if Rice were to go down.
 
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Here's the problem as I see it.

These guys will only get a chance if someone gets hurt or grossly underperforms. If it's the latter, then I would have serious doubts that the backup would come in and do gangbusters, so it basically requires a serious injury for a backup to have significant fantasy value.

IMO, rostering a bunch of backups is tantamount to buying a bunch of lottery tickets. If your number comes up, then great. If not, most of the time you are rostering worthless players. If you have 25 man rosters and can carry a bunch of projects or deadwood, knock yourself out and stash a couple.

I play in several leagues with very limited bench space to help encourage waiver wire movement and ensure people have some options if they need to grab someone. In leagues like that, it's tough to play the waiting game on a guy that might not ever make your starting lineup as a roster spot is worth too much.

The only time I would feel compelled to grab a backup as a true flyer would be on a team with a can't miss situation (say the Chiefs a few years ago) where if that guy ever did get his number called, you were pretty much assured of Top 5-10 production.

I have a hard time getting the warm and fuzzies over someone like Huggins. TB is not going to produce huge RB numbers in the first place, so sitting on Huggins in a redraft league seems to be a waste of a roster spot. We also don't know if someone like Jennings in JAX could come anywhere close to producing like MJD. That's another one I would have to pass on. And many times we may not even have a clear picture what a team would do with multiple injuries.

Maybe that's just me, but that's my perspective.

 
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As I pointed out in a pre-week 1 handcuff thread, Javon Ringer is the only other backup (along with Bjax entering the season) who is set up to be a feature back who would likely get three-down work if the starter goes down.Others worth rostering who might be out there:Tashard ChoiceJason SnellingIsaac RedmanToby GerhartAnthony DixonRashad JenningsMike TolbertEarnest Graham/Kareem HugginsKenneth DarbyChris Ivory (once healthy)
Have you lost your love for Donald Brown?
 
As I pointed out in a pre-week 1 handcuff thread, Javon Ringer is the only other backup (along with Bjax entering the season) who is set up to be a feature back who would likely get three-down work if the starter goes down.
Bernard Scott?
:unsure: Exactly what I was thinking. Scott would be the feature back and get 3-down work if Benson were to go down.ETA: McGahee might be the feature back and get 3-down work as well if Rice were to go down.
Im assuming McGahee is rostered in most leagues.Scott is more than worthy of a roster spot, but I dont think CIN trusts him as every down back.To wit:Benson missed 2 games last year. In one Scott shared with Brian Leonard. Before the second one, CIN signed LJ, and LJ got more carries than Scott in the following game. They are currently also rostering Cedric Peerman, who is a good back in his own right (unlike TEN and GB, who were confident enough in their backups to carry only 2 RBs into the season)
 
As I pointed out in a pre-week 1 handcuff thread, Javon Ringer is the only other backup (along with Bjax entering the season) who is set up to be a feature back who would likely get three-down work if the starter goes down.Others worth rostering who might be out there:Tashard ChoiceJason SnellingIsaac RedmanToby GerhartAnthony DixonRashad JenningsMike TolbertEarnest Graham/Kareem HugginsKenneth DarbyChris Ivory (once healthy)
Have you lost your love for Donald Brown?
no just assuming he is rostered, obviously he tops the list.
 
Here's the problem as I see it. These guys will only get a chance if someone gets hurt or grossly underperforms. If it's the latter, then I would have serious doubts that the backup would come in and do gangbusters, so it basically requires a serious injury for a backup to have significant fantasy value.IMO, rostering a bunch of backups is tantamount to buying a bunck of lottery tickets. If your number comes up, then great. If not, most of the time you are rostering worthless players. If you have 25 man rosters and can carry a bunch of projects or deadwood, knock yourself out and stash a couple.I play in several leagues with very limited bench space to help encourage waiver wire movement and ensure people have some options if they need to grab someone. In leagues like that, it's tough to play the waiting game on a guy that might not ever make your starting lineup as a roster spot is worth too much.The only time I would feel compelled to grab a backup as a true flyer would be on a team with a can't miss situation (say the Chiefs a few years ago) where is that guy ever did get his number called, you were pretty much assured of Top 5-10 production.I have a hard time getting the warm and fuzzies over someone like Huggins. TB is not going to produce huge RB numbers in the first place, so sitting on Huggins in a redraft league seems to be a waste of a roster spot. We also don't know if someone like Jennings in JAX could come anywhere close to producing like MJD. That's another one I would have to pass on. And many times we may not even have a clear picture what a team would do with multiple injuries.Maybe that's just me, but that's my perspective.
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I'd be interested in what the FBG's think of: Dwyer in PIT K. Williams in WAS
I like Larry Johnson in WASH. Williams might be the answer in the long-term though.Agree big time on the Ringer pick....DixonScott is another good lottery ticket as mentioned.James Davis is being ignored a little too much, IMO.
 
Donald Brown is an obvious one, (mentioned by someone above). He's being ignored ala Mendenhall 2009. The blocking issue is what's hurting him right now. He's ultracheap, and who else do the Colts have after he and Addai? Hart? I'm not sure....

 
As I pointed out in a pre-week 1 handcuff thread, Javon Ringer is the only other backup (along with Bjax entering the season) who is set up to be a feature back who would likely get three-down work if the starter goes down.Others worth rostering who might be out there:Tashard ChoiceJason SnellingIsaac RedmanToby GerhartAnthony DixonRashad JenningsMike TolbertEarnest Graham/Kareem HugginsKenneth DarbyChris Ivory (once healthy)
Have you lost your love for Donald Brown?
no just assuming he is rostered, obviously he tops the list.
I would say that Jonathan Stewart has to top the list of desirable backups in the league... :moneybag:
 
Scott is more than worthy of a roster spot, but I dont think CIN trusts him as every down back.To wit:Benson missed 2 games last year. In one Scott shared with Brian Leonard. Before the second one, CIN signed LJ, and LJ got more carries than Scott in the following game. They are currently also rostering Cedric Peerman, who is a good back in his own right (unlike TEN and GB, who were confident enough in their backups to carry only 2 RBs into the season)
True - Scott is not the grinder that typically personifies a Marvin Lewis feature back, but perhaps Marvin wasn't comfortable with going with a rookie when Benson was hurt. Or maybe his pass blocking wasn't up to speed.Perhaps things have changed, but obviously we won't know unless Benson does go down.
 
David Yudkin said:
Here's the problem as I see it. These guys will only get a chance if someone gets hurt or grossly underperforms. If it's the latter, then I would have serious doubts that the backup would come in and do gangbusters, so it basically requires a serious injury for a backup to have significant fantasy value.IMO, rostering a bunch of backups is tantamount to buying a bunch of lottery tickets. If your number comes up, then great. If not, most of the time you are rostering worthless players. If you have 25 man rosters and can carry a bunch of projects or deadwood, knock yourself out and stash a couple.I play in several leagues with very limited bench space to help encourage waiver wire movement and ensure people have some options if they need to grab someone. In leagues like that, it's tough to play the waiting game on a guy that might not ever make your starting lineup as a roster spot is worth too much.The only time I would feel compelled to grab a backup as a true flyer would be on a team with a can't miss situation (say the Chiefs a few years ago) where if that guy ever did get his number called, you were pretty much assured of Top 5-10 production.I have a hard time getting the warm and fuzzies over someone like Huggins. TB is not going to produce huge RB numbers in the first place, so sitting on Huggins in a redraft league seems to be a waste of a roster spot. We also don't know if someone like Jennings in JAX could come anywhere close to producing like MJD. That's another one I would have to pass on. And many times we may not even have a clear picture what a team would do with multiple injuries.Maybe that's just me, but that's my perspective.
Agreed. I think it is funny that, preseason, many posts advocated AGAINST handcuffing a RB. Now, after the first week, a major injury has scared people to the waiver wire in search of the next big break (pun intended).Follow the herd.
 
Winky the tunnel ferret said:
David Yudkin said:
Here's the problem as I see it. These guys will only get a chance if someone gets hurt or grossly underperforms. If it's the latter, then I would have serious doubts that the backup would come in and do gangbusters, so it basically requires a serious injury for a backup to have significant fantasy value.IMO, rostering a bunch of backups is tantamount to buying a bunck of lottery tickets. If your number comes up, then great. If not, most of the time you are rostering worthless players. If you have 25 man rosters and can carry a bunch of projects or deadwood, knock yourself out and stash a couple.I play in several leagues with very limited bench space to help encourage waiver wire movement and ensure people have some options if they need to grab someone. In leagues like that, it's tough to play the waiting game on a guy that might not ever make your starting lineup as a roster spot is worth too much.The only time I would feel compelled to grab a backup as a true flyer would be on a team with a can't miss situation (say the Chiefs a few years ago) where is that guy ever did get his number called, you were pretty much assured of Top 5-10 production.I have a hard time getting the warm and fuzzies over someone like Huggins. TB is not going to produce huge RB numbers in the first place, so sitting on Huggins in a redraft league seems to be a waste of a roster spot. We also don't know if someone like Jennings in JAX could come anywhere close to producing like MJD. That's another one I would have to pass on. And many times we may not even have a clear picture what a team would do with multiple injuries.Maybe that's just me, but that's my perspective.
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you guys r missing the point.For example based on the discussion in this thread In most re-draft leagues of normal roster size I think Bernard Scott looks to be a real diamond in the rough.I think the re-capp most of these guys are on rosters in re-draft:McGaheeD.BrownT.ChoiceThese guys make more sense than say a back up TE or Defense:Bernard ScottMarshawn LynchSteve SlatonYou cant win the Lotto if you dont have a ticket David.
 
Winky the tunnel ferret said:
David Yudkin said:
Here's the problem as I see it. These guys will only get a chance if someone gets hurt or grossly underperforms. If it's the latter, then I would have serious doubts that the backup would come in and do gangbusters, so it basically requires a serious injury for a backup to have significant fantasy value.IMO, rostering a bunch of backups is tantamount to buying a bunck of lottery tickets. If your number comes up, then great. If not, most of the time you are rostering worthless players. If you have 25 man rosters and can carry a bunch of projects or deadwood, knock yourself out and stash a couple.I play in several leagues with very limited bench space to help encourage waiver wire movement and ensure people have some options if they need to grab someone. In leagues like that, it's tough to play the waiting game on a guy that might not ever make your starting lineup as a roster spot is worth too much.The only time I would feel compelled to grab a backup as a true flyer would be on a team with a can't miss situation (say the Chiefs a few years ago) where is that guy ever did get his number called, you were pretty much assured of Top 5-10 production.I have a hard time getting the warm and fuzzies over someone like Huggins. TB is not going to produce huge RB numbers in the first place, so sitting on Huggins in a redraft league seems to be a waste of a roster spot. We also don't know if someone like Jennings in JAX could come anywhere close to producing like MJD. That's another one I would have to pass on. And many times we may not even have a clear picture what a team would do with multiple injuries.Maybe that's just me, but that's my perspective.
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you guys r missing the point.For example based on the discussion in this thread In most re-draft leagues of normal roster size I think Bernard Scott looks to be a real diamond in the rough.I think the re-capp most of these guys are on rosters in re-draft:McGaheeD.BrownT.ChoiceThese guys make more sense than say a back up TE or Defense:Bernard ScottMarshawn LynchSteve SlatonYou cant win the Lotto if you dont have a ticket David.
But if you had more RB that were already STARTING RB (or at the least guys that got a fair amount of touches) then you would not need to play the RB lottery. IMO, it's usually easier and quicker to identify guys at other positions that might play a bigger role right away than at RB. Part of the issue (at least for me) is ending up with a roster with too many solid players on it and then not really being in a great position to pick up other guys off of waivers. Using this year as an example, some of my tams ended up with 7 guys ranked in the Top 40. I'm not sure I would want to drop one of those guys to claim a backup RB. I already don't usually carry more than one TE/PK/DEF. So there's not a lot of roster space to play with . . .
 
Norwood is healthy and would be a monster in ATL's running game if Turner got nicked. In the meantime he will get 3rd down catches. I think he'd be the guy to own in ATL, not Snelling.

 
James Starks
:thumbup: Anybody have thoughts on this guy? Seemed like he was getting a lot of love early on only to be placed on PUP. Maybe GB was trying to 'hide' him and it backfired? We'll have to wait a few weeks to find out, I guess.
 
Tolbert SD- if u saw just the several runs he had he conjured up memories of Natrone Means....the human bowling ball. Powerful runner would be at least 2 down short yardage goal lline back/

 
James Starks
In a redraft league, with one IR spot, would the "shark move" be to pick-up Starks and stash him on IR? All of my guys are healthy at the moment and I have the free space, but of course if Gore, Foster, Fitzgerald, etc. get nicked up between now and Week 7 and miss a few weeks, I might have to cut Starks and put one of those guys on IR instead. But if everyone holds steady, why not stash Starks? I'm not 100% sold on Brandon Jackson. I realize he may have turned a corner, but is he really their guy for the whole year? Or, is Starks even worth the time?
 
James Starks
:bs: Anybody have thoughts on this guy? Seemed like he was getting a lot of love early on only to be placed on PUP. Maybe GB was trying to 'hide' him and it backfired? We'll have to wait a few weeks to find out, I guess.
James Starks
In a redraft league, with one IR spot, would the "shark move" be to pick-up Starks and stash him on IR? All of my guys are healthy at the moment and I have the free space, but of course if Gore, Foster, Fitzgerald, etc. get nicked up between now and Week 7 and miss a few weeks, I might have to cut Starks and put one of those guys on IR instead. But if everyone holds steady, why not stash Starks? I'm not 100% sold on Brandon Jackson. I realize he may have turned a corner, but is he really their guy for the whole year? Or, is Starks even worth the time?
#1 he is on the PUP list not IR. So in most league you cannot IR him.#2 - He hasnt been healthy in almost 2 years. No OTAs, No training camp, no pre-season. He's lucky he didnt go on IR. Looks like a good move now by GB because of the injury
 
James Starks
:goodposting: Anybody have thoughts on this guy? Seemed like he was getting a lot of love early on only to be placed on PUP. Maybe GB was trying to 'hide' him and it backfired? We'll have to wait a few weeks to find out, I guess.
James Starks
In a redraft league, with one IR spot, would the "shark move" be to pick-up Starks and stash him on IR? All of my guys are healthy at the moment and I have the free space, but of course if Gore, Foster, Fitzgerald, etc. get nicked up between now and Week 7 and miss a few weeks, I might have to cut Starks and put one of those guys on IR instead. But if everyone holds steady, why not stash Starks? I'm not 100% sold on Brandon Jackson. I realize he may have turned a corner, but is he really their guy for the whole year? Or, is Starks even worth the time?
#1 he is on the PUP list not IR. So in most league you cannot IR him.#2 - He hasnt been healthy in almost 2 years. No OTAs, No training camp, no pre-season. He's lucky he didnt go on IR. Looks like a good move now by GB because of the injury
He hasn't played. Jackson is GB's starter. First responsibility of any GB back is picking up the blitz to protect the franchise. They won't trust that to a rookie who didn't even play preseason. The only concern I have is Kuhn snaking GL TDs. If you're PPR, Jackson is a no brainer.
 
Limited number of guys... most backup RB's are backups because they are incapable of being or unlikely to be good starting RB's.. You want a guy on a decent team, who will be given the load, and has a chance to be a reliable fantasy starter.. Ringer, Scott, Brown, Choice... but I mean look at a guy like Williams in Wash, not a great situation there, average team, and he would likely split between FWP/LJ, no point in having a guy like that in a redraft.. Same thing even with Marshawn Lynch unless he were to be traded, no matter what there's another RB left in Buffalo, not much of a lottery ticket when you're talking about best-case scenario 50% timeshare on the worst team in the NFL...

 
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All good names.

Scott, Dixon, Jennings, Tolbert, and Peerman are players on waiver wires that I think have upside to have a true impact if put in a situation to do so. James Davis might be worth monitoring, too. All "ESP" kinds of scenarios at the moment, but one can never be too educated on contingency plans I guess.

Starks' talent is there, but the injury and possible lack of familiarity with the offense is a big deal. The fact that they brought in Nance allows us to guess two things: they need someone in case Jackson falters or gets hurt until Starks can play or they have severe doubts Starks can do anything when he's eligible. I think it's the first scenario more than the second.

 
Ringer and to a lesser extent Dixon

My thinking is you want a run heavy team that can move the ball with a RBBC limited to mainly 2 RB's. Three teams come to mind, all have talent & situation:

Panthers- Stewart already gone and/or too much $$$

Tenn- Ringer, I'm thinking even if CJ does not go down to injury they may run enough for Ringer to get RB #3 points. The first time CJ gets dinged they will be concerned about over use and want to preserve him giving Ringer more touches, look for this to happen as the year goes on.

49'rs- Dixon, Westy could be a 3rd wheel problem but SF should get things back on track and look to pound the ball as long as they are not down early in the game. Once they start pounding Dixon should see a fair amount of touches

 
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[James Davis is being ignored a little too much, IMO.
I don't get the 'sneak play' love for James Davis. The main question this offseason was whether he was Cleveland's 4th or 5th best back... he made the roster because Hardesty got injured, and he outplayed Jennings in the last pre-season game. His upside is that he might someday get to join an already murky RBBC on a team that may not have a lot of scores to go around. I'm with Yudkin on this one... if you're going to buy a lottery ticket, go for the big jackpot. Someone like Sproles back when LT was running rampage, or Larry Johnson during the Priest Holmes era.
 
I'd be interested in what the FBG's think of:

Dwyer in PIT



K. Williams in WAS
Seems like there's always a RB that comes out of nowhere in a Shanahan offense, whether it was Denver or Houston, and the two backs ahead of him have a LOT of mileage. Probably a long-shot, but worth keeping an eye on.
 
Maybe a deep dynasty flyer, Javarris James, NE. I believe he was activated and there at least seems like an eventual opening for somebody.

 
Norwood is healthy and would be a monster in ATL's running game if Turner got nicked. In the meantime he will get 3rd down catches. I think he'd be the guy to own in ATL, not Snelling.
I don't think so. We've been there before and Norwood split time...when he was able to stay healthy. He might be "productive" (borderline RB2) but hardly monstrous.
 
After a reviewing of IND/HOU, I think Steve Slaton can get back to 08 number with a Foster injury or fumble spree a la Slaton 09 - He is looking fast, decisive, getting to second level very quickly, like Foster, lock and key with Dennison running game.

For very deep leagues, can't forget Derrick Ward... many a #3 HOU RB has had value in December, such as... Arian Foster last year.

 

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