GroveDiesel
Footballguy
On the plus side, apparently Floyd is working with Larry Fitzgerald between allowable team offseason stuff.On the other hand, sounds like he may not be all that dedicated to it:
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Fitzgerald calling out Floyd via Twitter (1 Viewer)
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Ouch. Fitz is a smart guy. If he thought this was the best way to get through to Floyd....that's not a great sign.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
On a positive it looks like ARI will be the perfect landing spot for Floyd. Can't imagine too many other WRs being a better role model/motivator than Mr. Fitz.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Lets not jump to conclusions over a tweet, in the offseason, over 3 workouts
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It isnt the only red flag.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Larry tweeted a response to the effect of, just being real, Floyd is talented and Arizona needs him at his best.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
You can say that about any player
rizzler
Footballguy
Rudy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Tim Brown
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Was Ricky Waters ND?
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Yep, but how can we forget about Jimmy Clausen!ETA: So was Jerome Bettis
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belljr
Footballguy
Is TE a skill player?Does Tate, Arnaz Battle or David Givens count?
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Bettis....of course...Clausen vs. Quinn....tough call!
belljr
Footballguy
He said skilled position.You have plenty of Justin Tuck, Ndukwe , Sulllivans...
Some more than others though. I mean it can't be good news when the hardest working WR in the league calls you out publicly and you already have had people questioning your attitude. I don't think it's a bit deal... yet. But it's something to watch.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Tim Brown! Jerome Bettis!
Ilov80s
Footballguy
EBF
Footballguy
Minus the fact that he's about 20 pounds lighter and a lot faster.
Heatman
Footballguy
That Montana guy wasn't too bad.
Mr Rodgers neighborhood
Footballguy
Ryan Grant
Skilo
Footballguy
even if its not trueJamesTheScot
Footballguy
Where have been those questioning his attitude? This is the first negative I've heard since the draft.'todisco1 said:
GoodLloydHaveMercy
Footballguy
wow... first of all it might not be a huge deal right now but geez it doesn't sound like a good thing for Floyd... On the plus side though it just again makes me feel good about rooting for a guy like Fitz... I love that he called him out publicly... Fitz wants him to be great... He is offering him an opportunity to make himself better by working with a proven commodity... Floyd hasn't stepped up and been there for 3 days (albeit offseason)
Before the draft he had character concerns, you can look them up. Now this. I don't know if it's a big deal, but you can't be happy hearing that Fitz isn't happy with his work ethic so far. I actually like Floyd a lot as a player, but I hope he gets his butt in gear.
eric rymer
Footballguy
Probably because he went to Penn State.'Clifford said:
WickedCanRest
Footballguy
Underrated here is how aware he is of what's going on, specifically the DWI language (Justin Blackmon reference anyone?). I'm sure this is just a motivational tactic, I don't think he's trying to piss off Floyd this early. A little public rookie hazing never hurt anyone.
Probably because he went to Penn State.'Clifford said:
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Or a reference to the fact Floyd has a DWI and 2 MIPs
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mr roboto
Footballguy
Ever since April?!??!!!?Must have changed.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
I was trying to think of another LJ...Probably because he went to Penn State.'Clifford said:
broncofan13000
Footballguy
Good time to buy
loose circuits
Footballguy
As a Floyd owner I am glad he has someone who will call him out. Wish I had someone to hold me accountable when I was 21
Not necissarily a bad thing
Not necissarily a bad thing
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identikit
Footballguy
from Darren Urban of @Cardschatter:
Today at @LarryFitzgerald camp, Michael Floyd is here. No more Twitter needling from Fitz today.pic.twitter.com/mjzJOrLQ
Today at @LarryFitzgerald camp, Michael Floyd is here. No more Twitter needling from Fitz today.pic.twitter.com/mjzJOrLQ
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Shutout
Footballguy
I trust in Fitz and I'm sure he has a reason for calling him out.
With that being said, Its hard for me to imagine why anyone given the chance to train with Fitz wouldn't. But, I can also see how training with him would also mandate a "push" response. I mean, what 20-21 year old kid is going to step onto the field with arguably the best in the game and instantly be good enough to whereFitz is going to say "We're good to go! Nothing else needed here." There are some top athletes that will give lip service but if you follow Fitz, you know you get the simple cut-to-the-chase truth. he just calls it like it is.
So I don't think this spells disaster for floyd. Probably just Fitz's way of saying "you have to want it EVERY day young man. He would probably be saying the same thing to any other rookie there is this year. He would have said it to Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe, or Stevie Johnson. That doesn't mean they are occasionally better than most, just means they aren't Fitz..but who is?
With that being said, Its hard for me to imagine why anyone given the chance to train with Fitz wouldn't. But, I can also see how training with him would also mandate a "push" response. I mean, what 20-21 year old kid is going to step onto the field with arguably the best in the game and instantly be good enough to whereFitz is going to say "We're good to go! Nothing else needed here." There are some top athletes that will give lip service but if you follow Fitz, you know you get the simple cut-to-the-chase truth. he just calls it like it is.
So I don't think this spells disaster for floyd. Probably just Fitz's way of saying "you have to want it EVERY day young man. He would probably be saying the same thing to any other rookie there is this year. He would have said it to Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe, or Stevie Johnson. That doesn't mean they are occasionally better than most, just means they aren't Fitz..but who is?
Jason Wood
Zoo York
One of the beat writers (I can't remember if it was Somers or not) recently said that the coaches have made it clear they have no intention of rushing Floyd into the lineup, and that they're very comfortable with Roberts and Doucet as the 2/3. That seemed like pure rhetoric to me at the time (and it might still be), but this wouldn't be the first time a rookie came into the league needing to earn his stripes over veterans that we in the fantasy community didn't view as threats to the rook's playing time (only to be proven wrong as the season progressed).
Clifford
Footballguy
This comes on the heels of new blurbs that he is not running with the 1s at all, and sits firmly behind Fitz, Roberts, and Doucet on the DC, and comments from Kent Sommers that we might see very little of Mr. Floyd this year.Sounds like he has an uphill battle, which doesn't mix well with a lackadaisical work ethic that Fitz is alluding to. Right now he's reminding me a lot of Dwayne Jarrett.
Clifford
Footballguy
My bad, thought he was a domer. So then who did we decide on?I was trying to think of another LJ...Probably because he went to Penn State.'Clifford said:
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
I know there were character concerns...over his drinking. And he was forthright and open about those issues in the team interviews. Being a diva or lazy were not concerns for him. And, IIRC, his coaches noted his hard work at the early team activities.Fitz runs a voluntary, private camp. Is Blackmon there? Or is he keeping the beer cold in the back of his car out in the parking lot?So what is the significance of Fitz's call out? That he likes Floyd A LOT and has him under his wing and is expecting him to contribute sooner rather than later. In a perfect world, as a Floyd owner, I'd rather have him there the past few days. But warning signs? Not hardly. This is just big brother staying on top of it.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
FWIW, Fitzgerald tweeted today that Floyd tore it up today and even squatted 400lbs.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
While this is true, I don't see it as related to the camp issue. I think it's more of the coaches not wanting to anoint a kid, particularly in the press, when there are veterans who have already paid their dues.This is from two weeks ago: (Rotoworld) Larry Fitzgerald says first-round pick Michael Floyd impressed him during Cardinals OTAs and minicamp. "He really looked good in our Saturday practice out at the stadium making a couple of plays," Fitzgerald observed. "He consistently catches the ball. He's strong and physical at the line of scrimmage. He's an intelligent young man. He's really picking up and grasping things. Coach [Mike] Miller will tell him one thing one time in a meeting, and the next day you see him apply on the field."
From a month ago: (Rotoworld) Coach Ken Whisenhunt had praise for Michael Floyd's work ethic after the Cardinals' minicamp. Analysis: Floyd has done nothing to discourage the Cardinals' staff since they took him No. 13 overall. "He's worked hard," Whisenhunt said. "That's one of the things we liked about him."
Character concerns? They aren't all equal. Not directed at Jason Wood, but a lot of the noise in this thread is coming from people who've heard "character concerns" and had no idea what they really were. Was Floyd an angel in college? No. But we can do a little better than hearing something as vague as "character concerns" and jumping to the much more particular conclusion that he lacks work ethic or drive. Geez.
