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If we are going to go by exact words then so be it: I think it is statistically miniscule that someone would get into a physical confrontation, when they are carrying a gun; along the lines of why correction officers don't carry firearms inside the secure location.
Break it down for me. I don't want to imply that I have it all figured out, rather I am trying explain what I am thinking/where I am coming from. BTW, I have easily given worse logic in the FFA.
I try to put myself in Zimmerman's shoes, as I think I can easily see Martin's actions. For me it would depend on the level of confrontation I could reasonably expect; if their location was a high or violent crime area, I could see myself carrying a weapon. You frequently state that Zimmerman had the responsibility as the adult, or as the individual carrying the weapon, to take on the extra responsibility of defusing this situation; do you mean that in a legal sense or in a moral sense? I think most, if not all, of the posters here would readily concede that slightly different actions by Zimmerman would of resulted in a greatly different outcome; I do not know if that alone makes him criminally resonsible. I also think that if I was carrying, got hit and knocked down, that the weapon I have on me comes into play; whether I brandish it or not, would be based on if I could get some distance established between my foe and myself; whether I would fire it or not, would be determined on how fearful for my safety I was. I also think that your personal confidence in your ability to defend yourself (I am talking about you BK) perverts your view on this altercation; I don't think the average person would act as magnanimous toward Martin's actions, as you expect(ed) Zimmerman to act.
You must have missed the recorded deposition with the prosecutor then I guess.. Listen to that.. She said he was going home..at 8:48 then again at 16:28
Well, you were agreeing with Jon, who is adamant that someone carrying a gun wouldn't start a fight, which is utterly untrue. That's almost as absurd as anything Hustler's said in here. The prison guard analogy is also pretty silly since they're outnumbered by known criminals and locked in with them. It's a completely different situation than a one on one confrontation out in the streets. It's an absurd logical leap that falls about 20 feet short of the line to gain.
COs don't carry weapons for one reason--so the inmates don't jump them and take the weapons.
Christo beat me to it but this is the actual reason correctional officers don't carry guns. They are outnumbered and could very easily have a weapon taken from them. There is no way anyone wants that weapon to be a gun.Also, I find it to be very bad logic to say that carrying a gun makes a person less likely to start a fight. The gun holder has all the power and it's a unknown to the other person. He's holding the hammer and knows that if things go sideways he has an out.
You can't be serious. I would 1000 times rather have a gun standing 15 feet away from someone, then have a gun and be in a physical fight. That is ####### crazy to say that. You get in a physical fight and it becomes a 50-50 fight for the gun. If you keep your distance, you are the only one who has access to it.
Your whole argument is on the assumtion the person you are fighting with knows what you already know, that you are armed.Its called the element of surprise. I will say that it works both ways , zimmerman wouldnt know if teryvon was armed or not, then it becomes a war of assumtions . Who pulls his weapon first gets the prize....they get to live, if that other person was armed as well, which treyvon wasnt. Thats why cops have been know to plant a gun on someone they shot, to justify the kill.
These words are extremely hollow considering that the guy with the gun ended up shooting the guy without the gun.
This of course has been the question all along, and it's going to be a question for the jury. To me, the most logical conclusion is that Zimmerman could have pulled out the gun at any time and stopped the struggle by simply pointing it at Martin and yelling, "Back off!" or something like that. Zimmerman chose not to do this, and I think this is because Zimmerman was pissed off that he was getting his butt kicked and decided, in the spur of the moment, to kill Trayvon Martin. Which is why he is guilty of the charge. However, all of this will be very difficult to prove.
Hypothetically, Trayvon would know that he did nothing wrong, and could ignore Zimmerman's commands if Zimmerman told him to stay untill the police arrived. Also he'd know that Zimmerman couldn't shoot him if he doesn't threaten him or attack him.. So in the same line of reasoning (common sense), Maybe Zimmerman could have drawn a weapon on him, but Trayvon kept walking and Zimmerman had to try to physically detain him. Or maybe Zimmerman knew his gun wasn't enough to stop someone who was running away because legally he couldn't shoot someone running away from him, so rather than draw the weapon he tried to physically detain..I'm not saying I agree with this, but anyone opposing your argument could certainly assume something along these lines..
So if you're on top of someone on the ground and they go for a gun you're not going to try to grab it? You're just gonna back off?
I know this, it is a secure area after all. My analogy is an officer is trained to secure his weapon at all times and while Zimmerman was not an officer I do think most would realize in a struggle that the gun becomes a weapon for whomever possesses it. I am just missing the logic that Zimmerman started a physical altercation while having a gun on his person. What would be Zimmerman's end game; if it was to beat up Martin to run him off, he could just as easily done this by drawing his weapon.
So its improbable that 2 guys in a fight that had weapons wouldnt use them?
Also... (1) - Police supervisor encouraged cover-up, knew officer planted gun while still on Danziger Bridge
Crooked people everywhere..So its improbable that 2 guys in a fight that had weapons wouldnt use them?
(2)- MPD on Fong Lee shooting: ‘No officer ever planted evidence in this case’
The upshot from the coverage: evidence suggesting Lee was unarmed and that the gun purportedly recovered at the scene may have been planted by police.
(3) - Attorneys for a suspected teenage gang member blinded in an officer-involved shooting claim the police officer planted a stolen pistol after shooting the teen three times.
(4) - Muthoot Case: Sting shows cops planted knife
(5) - The city of Oakland has agreed to pay $300,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by a parolee who said an Oakland police officer planted a gun on him, causing him to be jailed for almost two years for allegedly possessing a weapon illegally.
Do i need to go on?
yaaay...we agreed on something...its a startCrooked people everywhere..So its improbable that 2 guys in a fight that had weapons wouldnt use them?
(2)- MPD on Fong Lee shooting: ‘No officer ever planted evidence in this case’
The upshot from the coverage: evidence suggesting Lee was unarmed and that the gun purportedly recovered at the scene may have been planted by police.
(3) - Attorneys for a suspected teenage gang member blinded in an officer-involved shooting claim the police officer planted a stolen pistol after shooting the teen three times.
(4) - Muthoot Case: Sting shows cops planted knife
(5) - The city of Oakland has agreed to pay $300,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by a parolee who said an Oakland police officer planted a gun on him, causing him to be jailed for almost two years for allegedly possessing a weapon illegally.
Do i need to go on?
yaaay...we agreed on something...its a startCrooked people everywhere..So its improbable that 2 guys in a fight that had weapons wouldnt use them?
(2)- MPD on Fong Lee shooting: ‘No officer ever planted evidence in this case’
The upshot from the coverage: evidence suggesting Lee was unarmed and that the gun purportedly recovered at the scene may have been planted by police.
(3) - Attorneys for a suspected teenage gang member blinded in an officer-involved shooting claim the police officer planted a stolen pistol after shooting the teen three times.
(4) - Muthoot Case: Sting shows cops planted knife
(5) - The city of Oakland has agreed to pay $300,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by a parolee who said an Oakland police officer planted a gun on him, causing him to be jailed for almost two years for allegedly possessing a weapon illegally.
Do i need to go on?
Thats definitely me falling down...hardly ever drink anymore hahayaaay...we agreed on something...its a startCrooked people everywhere..So its improbable that 2 guys in a fight that had weapons wouldnt use them?
(2)- MPD on Fong Lee shooting: ‘No officer ever planted evidence in this case’
The upshot from the coverage: evidence suggesting Lee was unarmed and that the gun purportedly recovered at the scene may have been planted by police.
(3) - Attorneys for a suspected teenage gang member blinded in an officer-involved shooting claim the police officer planted a stolen pistol after shooting the teen three times.
(4) - Muthoot Case: Sting shows cops planted knife
(5) - The city of Oakland has agreed to pay $300,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by a parolee who said an Oakland police officer planted a gun on him, causing him to be jailed for almost two years for allegedly possessing a weapon illegally.
Do i need to go on?
Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
He said that dispatch asked him to get an address. That's not true. He said that dispatch asked him to get to a point where he could see TM. That's not true. I could go on and on. He tells the detective that it was the wind and not his running that caused the sound in the recording and that he was really walking, but then when he's walking to get the address that no one asked him to get, you don't hear any sound of the wind anymore. He is an inveterate liar. Within the first 30 seconds of the 911 call zimmerman tells dispatch hes at 111 retreatview circle. Then the dispatch asks him what address hes parked in front of and hes says i dont know its a cut thru,but when you watch the video hes parked not far from the initial point that he first spots treyvon. He also claims to know every single person that lives in that complex, but he cant remember a street name , even tho hes someone who takes his crime watching pretty damn seriously.Im not buying it.Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmermans mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows thats not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like youre looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesnt even sound like me," Zimmerman said. Its unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didnt recognize it.
Zimmermans account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
Is this true??? Oh man.He said that dispatch asked him to get an address. That's not true. He said that dispatch asked him to get to a point where he could see TM. That's not true. I could go on and on. He tells the detective that it was the wind and not his running that caused the sound in the recording and that he was really walking, but then when he's walking to get the address that no one asked him to get, you don't hear any sound of the wind anymore. He is an inveterate liar. Within the first 30 seconds of the 911 call zimmerman tells dispatch hes at 111 retreatview circle. Then the dispatch asks him what address hes parked in front of and hes says i dont know its a cut thru,but when you watch the video hes parked not far from the initial point that he first spots treyvon. He also claims to know every single person that lives in that complex, but he cant remember a street name , even tho hes someone who takes his crime watching pretty damn seriously.Im not buying it.Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald....leid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
Oh ya BTW...there are only 3 streets at the Retreat at Twin Lakes
I think it is strange if you are part of the Neighborhood Watch program and you don't know the streets you are watching? I agree with you that I dont know the street names in my neighborhood, but if I was patroling it and calling into the police of the "crimes" in the are I would know the streets, but hey since he doesnt know maybe that is why they always get away!Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman's mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald....leid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that's not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you're looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn't even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It's unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn't recognize it.
Zimmerman's account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
The HOA already said they asked him to captain a neighborhood watch.. So at best, that's conflicting evidence as to "self appointed".. Small potatoes though, as I said before..
Tim, how about this little nugget. Zimmerman tells the cops in the vidoe he jumps up after he shoots trey and didnt know if he even shot him or not , so he grabs treys arms and puts them out to his sides, spread eagle. Well in the police report the cops said when they arrived they found a black a black male with his hands underneath his body.Is this true??? Oh man.He said that dispatch asked him to get an address. That's not true. He said that dispatch asked him to get to a point where he could see TM. That's not true. I could go on and on. He tells the detective that it was the wind and not his running that caused the sound in the recording and that he was really walking, but then when he's walking to get the address that no one asked him to get, you don't hear any sound of the wind anymore. He is an inveterate liar. Within the first 30 seconds of the 911 call zimmerman tells dispatch hes at 111 retreatview circle. Then the dispatch asks him what address hes parked in front of and hes says i dont know its a cut thru,but when you watch the video hes parked not far from the initial point that he first spots treyvon. He also claims to know every single person that lives in that complex, but he cant remember a street name , even tho hes someone who takes his crime watching pretty damn seriously.Im not buying it.Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald....leid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
Oh ya BTW...there are only 3 streets at the Retreat at Twin Lakes
Another lie from zimmy, and a big one at that.Also he says he didn't think he got him but he jumps on top of him and holds his arms out , that last shot stopped the screaming. If he didn't think he got him, why would he stop yelliing for help? Also, strangely, he's doing all this wiggling to get off of the cement, looking at the neighbor looking through the window all while his head is being banged Im still looking for even more holes in his story.This is kind of fun hahaha
those are zimmys words , not mine.
Same here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
A reason sort of like being head of your neighborhood watch?Same here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
He didn't say he appointed himself.. He said he started the program.. And according to the HOA, he started it at their request...
You guys are picking insignificant nits..You'll still stumble over the biggest problem with your case..A reason sort of like being head of your neighborhood watch?Same here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
1-retreat view circle2-twin trees lnSame here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
but he cant remember 3 simple street names . Ill remember those 3 names the rest of my life and i dont even live there hahaha
How does that effect him pinned and pummeled, calling for help.. Witness verified?1-retreat view circle2-twin trees lnSame here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
3-long oak way
Thats it, thats all the crime watchman had to remember
Yet he tells the cops he knows every single person that lives there , thats why he noticed treyon as a stranger
You have no idea what the jury will find important or not. If the state can catch zimmy in enough lies they may not believe he was the victim hes trying to portrayYou guys are picking insignificant nits..You'll still stumble over the biggest problem with your case..A reason sort of like being head of your neighborhood watch?Same here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
There was an eye witness, that saw Zimmerman calling out for help, pinned and pummeled by Treyvon... Until that witness is removed from the equation, it doesn't matter if he says there were Kamikaze planes flying in.. That witness corroborates the most important part of his story.. That witness puts him in a position where he could have feared, and was calling for help..
There is also the problem of explaining why Treyvon didn't make it to his house if he was actually running from Zimmerman, and didn't double back to confront him.. He had plenty of time to make it home between the time Zimmerman lost him and the time Zimmerman got off the phone..
Picking at nits? The reason he actually got out of the car is a nit? Gotcha. But then again, we already know you're going to shoehorn everything so that it meets your conception of the whole affair.You guys are picking insignificant nits..You'll still stumble over the biggest problem with your case..A reason sort of like being head of your neighborhood watch?Same here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
There was an eye witness, that saw Zimmerman calling out for help, pinned and pummeled by Treyvon... Until that witness is removed from the equation, it doesn't matter if he says there were Kamikaze planes flying in.. That witness corroborates the most important part of his story.. That witness puts him in a position where he could have feared, and was calling for help..
There is also the problem of explaining why Treyvon didn't make it to his house if he was actually running from Zimmerman, and didn't double back to confront him.. He had plenty of time to make it home between the time Zimmerman lost him and the time Zimmerman got off the phone..
Lets see how the witness does under examination in a courtroom before we exonerate zimmy. Maybe we will find out the witness could only make out the appearence of what he saw , it was rainy , it was dark i was scared blah blah blahAnd C.H , i know im wasting my time but id like to see what you say about post # 14279, (treyvons arm positions)How does that effect him pinned and pummeled, calling for help.. Witness verified?1-retreat view circle2-twin trees lnSame here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmermans mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows thats not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like youre looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesnt even sound like me," Zimmerman said. Its unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didnt recognize it.
Zimmermans account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
3-long oak way
Thats it, thats all the crime watchman had to remember
Yet he tells the cops he knows every single person that lives there , thats why he noticed treyon as a stranger
I get that your bloodlust is clouding your vision, but can you continue to stop posting your inaccurate thoughts as fact? I only need to go as far as your first sentence:He said that dispatch asked him to get an address. That's not true. He said that dispatch asked him to get to a point where he could see TM. That's not true. I could go on and on. He tells the detective that it was the wind and not his running that caused the sound in the recording and that he was really walking, but then when he's walking to get the address that no one asked him to get, you don't hear any sound of the wind anymore. He is an inveterate liar. Within the first 30 seconds of the 911 call zimmerman tells dispatch hes at 111 retreatview circle. Then the dispatch asks him what address hes parked in front of and hes says i dont know its a cut thru,but when you watch the video hes parked not far from the initial point that he first spots treyvon. He also claims to know every single person that lives in that complex, but he cant remember a street name , even tho hes someone who takes his crime watching pretty damn seriously.Im not buying it.Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
Oh ya BTW...there are only 3 streets at the Retreat at Twin Lakes
Did the dispatcher specifically say 'what address is he at'? No - but the dispatchers line of questioning was asking about his location.
While listening to the taped 911 call, before all this evidence was made public.. Several in here already assumed comments by the operator could provoke Zimmerman to follow in order to continue giving the operator the information they were asking for.. Listen to the tape again..Most of your "inconsistencies" can be explained..You have no idea what the jury will find important or not. If the state can catch zimmy in enough lies they may not believe he was the victim hes trying to portrayYou guys are picking insignificant nits..You'll still stumble over the biggest problem with your case..A reason sort of like being head of your neighborhood watch?Same here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
There was an eye witness, that saw Zimmerman calling out for help, pinned and pummeled by Treyvon... Until that witness is removed from the equation, it doesn't matter if he says there were Kamikaze planes flying in.. That witness corroborates the most important part of his story.. That witness puts him in a position where he could have feared, and was calling for help..
There is also the problem of explaining why Treyvon didn't make it to his house if he was actually running from Zimmerman, and didn't double back to confront him.. He had plenty of time to make it home between the time Zimmerman lost him and the time Zimmerman got off the phone..
I'm real anxious to see the girlfriend get on the stand and be asked why she embellished her conversation with Martin from when she first told it to the press/world and than later when Zimmerman still hadn't been charged yet. Interesting you seem to be skipping right over that BK (although it's pretty clear why) since you clearly like bringing up statements made by various folks in this case.Lets see how the witness does under examination in a courtroom before we exonerate zimmy. Maybe we will find out the witness could only make out the appearence of what he saw , it was rainy , it was dark i was scared blah blah blahHow does that effect him pinned and pummeled, calling for help.. Witness verified?1-retreat view circle2-twin trees lnSame here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
3-long oak way
Thats it, thats all the crime watchman had to remember
Yet he tells the cops he knows every single person that lives there , thats why he noticed treyon as a stranger
Picking at nits? The reason he actually got out of the car is a nit? Gotcha. But then again, we already know you're going to shoehorn everything so that it meets your conception of the whole affair.You guys are picking insignificant nits..You'll still stumble over the biggest problem with your case..A reason sort of like being head of your neighborhood watch?Same here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
There was an eye witness, that saw Zimmerman calling out for help, pinned and pummeled by Treyvon... Until that witness is removed from the equation, it doesn't matter if he says there were Kamikaze planes flying in.. That witness corroborates the most important part of his story.. That witness puts him in a position where he could have feared, and was calling for help..
There is also the problem of explaining why Treyvon didn't make it to his house if he was actually running from Zimmerman, and didn't double back to confront him.. He had plenty of time to make it home between the time Zimmerman lost him and the time Zimmerman got off the phone..
Show me one time when you've given anything but an anti-Zimmerman perspective..I can show you several in the last several pages where I've viewed things from the opposite side..
When have I ever denied there aren't serious obstacles for the prosecution? You're at odds with so many people you can't even keep them straight.eta: I'm anti-Zimmerman because whether it's legally deemed to be so or not, he's the reason that Martin is dead because Zimmerman is a wannabe cop with a violent past, carrying a gun while following strangers around.Picking at nits? The reason he actually got out of the car is a nit? Gotcha. But then again, we already know you're going to shoehorn everything so that it meets your conception of the whole affair.You guys are picking insignificant nits..You'll still stumble over the biggest problem with your case..A reason sort of like being head of your neighborhood watch?Same here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
There was an eye witness, that saw Zimmerman calling out for help, pinned and pummeled by Treyvon... Until that witness is removed from the equation, it doesn't matter if he says there were Kamikaze planes flying in.. That witness corroborates the most important part of his story.. That witness puts him in a position where he could have feared, and was calling for help..
There is also the problem of explaining why Treyvon didn't make it to his house if he was actually running from Zimmerman, and didn't double back to confront him.. He had plenty of time to make it home between the time Zimmerman lost him and the time Zimmerman got off the phone..
You can't even admit there are some serious obstacles for the prosecution. And you're accusing me of being one sided..
Whatever buddy..
I think his arm position after the shooting is pretty insignificant.. The alleged crime had already been committed, there is noting about Trayvon's arm position that effects the crime.. Small detail and his poor memory could easily be explained away by the shock and adrenaline of the situation.. I'm sure he had a million things going through his mind at the time..I've already said I believe he's embellished his story. That could be because he's afraid that the courts won't get it right unless he helps them along, or it could be because he's full of ####. But as I said, I think the most important part of his story is corroborated by an eye witness..Lets see how the witness does under examination in a courtroom before we exonerate zimmy. Maybe we will find out the witness could only make out the appearence of what he saw , it was rainy , it was dark i was scared blah blah blahAnd C.H , i know im wasting my time but id like to see what you say about post # 14279, (treyvons arm positions)How does that effect him pinned and pummeled, calling for help.. Witness verified?1-retreat view circle2-twin trees lnSame here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
3-long oak way
Thats it, thats all the crime watchman had to remember
Yet he tells the cops he knows every single person that lives there , thats why he noticed treyon as a stranger
I get that your bloodlust is clouding your vision, but can you continue to stop posting your inaccurate thoughts as fact? I only need to go as far as your first sentence:He said that dispatch asked him to get an address. That's not true. He said that dispatch asked him to get to a point where he could see TM. That's not true. I could go on and on. He tells the detective that it was the wind and not his running that caused the sound in the recording and that he was really walking, but then when he's walking to get the address that no one asked him to get, you don't hear any sound of the wind anymore. He is an inveterate liar. Within the first 30 seconds of the 911 call zimmerman tells dispatch hes at 111 retreatview circle. Then the dispatch asks him what address hes parked in front of and hes says i dont know its a cut thru,but when you watch the video hes parked not far from the initial point that he first spots treyvon. He also claims to know every single person that lives in that complex, but he cant remember a street name , even tho hes someone who takes his crime watching pretty damn seriously.Im not buying it.Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
Oh ya BTW...there are only 3 streets at the Retreat at Twin Lakes
Did the dispatcher specifically say 'what address is he at'? No - but the dispatchers line of questioning was asking about his location.
Listening to the deposition with the prosecutor, it's fairly obvious to me she is embellishing the story. I curious how the anti-Zimmerman side sees it..I'm real anxious to see the girlfriend get on the stand and be asked why she embellished her conversation with Martin from when she first told it to the press/world and than later when Zimmerman still hadn't been charged yet. Interesting you seem to be skipping right over that BK (although it's pretty clear why) since you clearly like bringing up statements made by various folks in this case.Lets see how the witness does under examination in a courtroom before we exonerate zimmy. Maybe we will find out the witness could only make out the appearence of what he saw , it was rainy , it was dark i was scared blah blah blahHow does that effect him pinned and pummeled, calling for help.. Witness verified?1-retreat view circle2-twin trees lnSame here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
3-long oak way
Thats it, thats all the crime watchman had to remember
Yet he tells the cops he knows every single person that lives there , thats why he noticed treyon as a stranger
Zimmerman:"Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck." [3:10]
Dispatcher:"Let me know if he does anything, OK?"
I'm pretty sure he was NOT running. I said as much a couple hundred pages ago. You cannot talk as he was while running, maybe while jogging, but I preferred to say he was hustling. Over in one of the cabillion threads at JusticeQuest, a wildly anti-Zim site, someone tried to recreate the wind noise running. You cannot do it. Someone else got wind of this, tried, failed, and issued a challenge to anyone to try. What you can do is walk INTO the wind and get that exact same sound. If you turn around and walk WITH the wind, the sound disappears just like on the phone call. This suggests George headed back to his truck. You can create that sound by running into the wind, but then you have to explain his voice and him apparently turning back to go with the wind. He was hustling to the end of that building to see if he could see where Tray went, following the instructions from the dispatch bolded above. He lost him. If you think this argument developed because George said so, you're wrong. It's over a month old.
Oy, your confirmation bias is something. George's very first statement on the call is: "We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle."
This has nothing to do with him lying. He clearly did not know the name of the street that night. He bumbled all over the address and directions. All he knew if you listen to the call was Retreat View Circle. Mock him. But he isn't lying about it. He was clueless and couldn't give a decent answer.
You guys who are still defending this idiot amaze me. He contradicts his own statements and its as clear as the nose on your face yet you still make up excuses to his contradictionsI think his arm position after the shooting is pretty insignificant.. The alleged crime had already been committed, there is noting about Trayvon's arm position that effects the crime.. Small detail and his poor memory could easily be explained away by the shock and adrenaline of the situation.. I'm sure he had a million things going through his mind at the time..I've already said I believe he's embellished his story. That could be because he's afraid that the courts won't get it right unless he helps them along, or it could be because he's full of ####. But as I said, I think the most important part of his story is corroborated by an eye witness..Lets see how the witness does under examination in a courtroom before we exonerate zimmy. Maybe we will find out the witness could only make out the appearence of what he saw , it was rainy , it was dark i was scared blah blah blahAnd C.H , i know im wasting my time but id like to see what you say about post # 14279, (treyvons arm positions)How does that effect him pinned and pummeled, calling for help.. Witness verified?1-retreat view circle2-twin trees lnSame here. I know 2 street names in my neighborhood. The entrance, and my street which you turn onto from the entrance.. I have 2 culdesacs on either side of me. there are 3 houses on my street between them. I'm the middle house... So yes, 2 streets, that are each 1 house away from mine, and I couldn't tell you the names of them.. I've walked them with the kids during Halloween, but I've never had a reason to memorize their names..Regarding the name of the street issue, I've lived in my neighborhood for eight years and can't tell you the names of streets that are two and three blocks away. So I don't think it is THAT strange that he not remember the street names.Statements reveal George Zimmerman’s mind-set before Trayvon Martin shooting.
http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view.bg?articleid=1061141042
For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford, Fla., neighborhood Feb. 26.
One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.
During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that’s not true.
Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.
Trayvon "came down and circled my car. ... He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.
One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?
Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "... then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."
When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.
"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.
Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.
"It sounds like you’re looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying - Zimmerman or Trayvon - has been hotly debated.
"That doesn’t even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It’s unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn’t recognize it.
Zimmerman’s account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.
In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.
"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."...(Thats for you C.H...he started the program, hence the self proclaimed watchman term...yes the community agreed after he approached them)[/B]
Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."
3-long oak way
Thats it, thats all the crime watchman had to remember
Yet he tells the cops he knows every single person that lives there , thats why he noticed treyon as a stranger
in one post..You watch a lot of TV don't you? 
