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Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch (1 Viewer)
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The Commish
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Women = emotion. I think this dude's in trouble. He can be portrayed that way, but it will be contrasted with a "stalker mentality" or a "self acclaimed officer of the neighborhood" mentality by the prosecution.
BustedKnuckles
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This plays into that thought process also......''Prosecutors in the Trayvon Martin shooting case have informed the court of a new exhibit that they claim shows defendant George Zimmerman once applied to become a police officer.
A filing by prosecutors this week included a description of an application from Zimmerman and a rejection letter from the Prince William County Police Department, but no explanation of what they plan to do with it.''
FFAer's = emotions. I think he is better off in the hands of women than the emotions I have seen in this thread.
Clifford
Footballguy
Doesn't make him innocent or guilty in this particular case. In real life it does make him look paranoid to the point of being unhinged.Yes... it speaks volumes that Zimmerman looks like he is innocent? Are you people nuts? If he called 911 46 times without incident and the 47th time there is an altercation, and he says he was attacked and is bleeding with a broken nose, I think most people would believe it. The fact remains he called and called and nothing like this happened before, even if George does have anger issues.
I realize you are trying to race bait here. Now if George had called 911 46 times on all black people, then that would be a different discussion entirely. I haven't heard those calls(although I'd like to).
Jojo the circus boy
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I'm guessing he was rejected due to his weight, I don't know how many people apply to become an officer and are given the opportunity.
Maybe he failed the IQ test (got too high of a score).
Maybe he failed the IQ test (got too high of a score).
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
Looks like it was due to: "Collection Issues/Credit History"
Not sure how this will help the prosecution, also fwiw I think it was 9 years ago.
Judge Nelson just recessed the court until tomorrow morning at 09:00
This afternoon, once the jury was sworn in, the Frye Hearing was completed and Judge Nelson indicates she going to do some review tonight and will have a decision on the audio expert testimony in the morning.
There are other pretrial motions to be dealt with in the morning.
Not sure how this will help the prosecution, also fwiw I think it was 9 years ago.
Judge Nelson just recessed the court until tomorrow morning at 09:00
This afternoon, once the jury was sworn in, the Frye Hearing was completed and Judge Nelson indicates she going to do some review tonight and will have a decision on the audio expert testimony in the morning.
There are other pretrial motions to be dealt with in the morning.
pantherclub
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Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
Explain yourself. How does being rejected from being a cop due to bad credit make you a murderer?
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pantherclub
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no thanks, if your feeble little brain cannot comprehend why Zimmy being rejected by the cops is a bad thing for him then there really is no point.
do you think this helps the defense?
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
HLN guests says the all-woman jury is huge win for the defense, and I agree. These ladies won't identify with Martin and his MMA blows, social media names and they will be moved by the huge, blown up images of the bloody nose and cuts on the head. One of the women used to have a concealed carry permit, the HLN guest was stunned that the state allowed her in.
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
If 5000 people applied for 50 positions your brain which you overestimate is the size of a watermelon would explode.
Carolina Hustler
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pantherclub
Footballguy
good luck with that
Jojo the circus boy
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Carolina Hustler
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pantherclub
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mad sweeney
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The Commish
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You aren't setting the bar very high and I'd go as far as to say there's not much difference between what I see here in the FFA and what I think these women will think. If it were me, deliberations would be on TV so everyone could see the cat fight. All those who think they know what is going to happen make me laugh. Most here think he's guilty or innocent without the first witness being called. The only logical position at this point is "I don't know what to think". The rest are equally childish IMO.
BustedKnuckles
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BustedKnuckles
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I cant speak for anyone else but i have no idea what happened as i wasnt there....but i will say i have theories based on the evidence thats been presented so far. I do believe the entire incident could have been avoided if Zimmy wasnt so overzealous about his watch duties and adhered to the rules that are set for such crime watch members.(no weapons and no confrontations) IF trey was actually committing a crime when Zimmy spotted him then all bets are off...too bad that wasnt the case.
I have no idea exactly what happened, but if the evidence that we have seen in the media is representative of the prosecution case, it is not very compelling to prove that it was not an act of self-defense. Just because he is a wannabe cop who is overly paranoid, is no grounds for a conviction.
Jojo the circus boy
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pantherclub
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Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
for you? HELL NO
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
oh ...ok...thats good enough for me and anyone else that believes everything someone says on the internet on a forum just like this one...HAS to be true
pantherclub
Footballguy
So yeah, you are just making #### up again
Jojo the circus boy
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BustedKnuckles
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Jojo the circus boy
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Oh, forgot to add, I love the smell of TOAST in the morning
Perhaps in the future you knuckleheads can do you own due diligence before slinging insults.
Perhaps in the future you knuckleheads can do you own due diligence before slinging insults.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
what exactly are we looking for here? All i read was he was rejected for being substandard....nothing about credit issues that i could see...maybe im missing something
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Or better yet, you can just provide a link to your statements that you make. Pretty simple.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
Page 7He gets insulted about not providing a link. He provides a link and people don't read through it before trying to discredit it. Come on.
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MacArtist
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I dont think that we can know for certain for what played out. That's what the courts are for.
Raider Nation
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SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — The six women picked Thursday to serve on the jury in George Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial come from different backgrounds and they have varying knowledge about the case involving the former neighborhood watch volunteer who claims self-defense in the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
Here are some details they shared during two weeks of jury selection. Their names will be released sometime after the trial, which could last two weeks to a month after opening statements on Monday.
Race and ethnicity have played a prominent role in the case. While the court did not release the racial makeup of the jury, the panel appeared to reporters covering jury selection to be made up of five white women and a sixth who may be Hispanic.
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B-51 is retired, not married and doesn't have kids. She has lived in Seminole County for nine years. She has worked in real estate and run a call center where she said she had experience resolving conflicts. When asked if Zimmerman did something wrong by following Martin instead of waiting for police, she said: "Yeah, I guess he did do something wrong."
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B-29 recently moved to central Florida from Chicago. She enjoys watching the "Real Housewives" on television and works as a nurse on an Alzheimer's section of a nursing home. She said she hadn't paid much attention to the shooting. She said she has been arrested, but her case was disposed of. It's not clear why she was arrested or exactly what happened to her case, though she said she was treated fairly. She is married and has several children. A prosecutor described her as "black or Hispanic" during jury selection.
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B-76 is a white woman who has lived in central Florida for 18 years. She manages rental properties with her husband of 30 years. She has two adult children, including one who is an attorney. She is involved with rescuing animals in her free time. During jury selection, she said she had been the victim of a nonviolent crime. "Everyone deserves a fair trial," she said.
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B-37 is a white woman who volunteers rescuing animals. She is married to an attorney and has two adult children. She said she and her husband used to have concealed weapons permits. During the last round of questioning, she said she had an issue with the type of weapons people are allowed to carry. She also thought weapons' training was inadequate for people seeking permits. "It should become harder," she said.
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E-6 is a white woman who is married and has two children. She has worked in financial services and has lived in Seminole County for two years. She is active in her church and involved with her children's school. During jury selection, she said she didn't know the facts of the case well.
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E-40 is a white woman who works as a safety officer and recently moved to Seminole County from Iowa. She describes herself as a football fan. During jury selection, she said she had been the victim of a nonviolent crime.
Here are some details they shared during two weeks of jury selection. Their names will be released sometime after the trial, which could last two weeks to a month after opening statements on Monday.
Race and ethnicity have played a prominent role in the case. While the court did not release the racial makeup of the jury, the panel appeared to reporters covering jury selection to be made up of five white women and a sixth who may be Hispanic.
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B-51 is retired, not married and doesn't have kids. She has lived in Seminole County for nine years. She has worked in real estate and run a call center where she said she had experience resolving conflicts. When asked if Zimmerman did something wrong by following Martin instead of waiting for police, she said: "Yeah, I guess he did do something wrong."
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B-29 recently moved to central Florida from Chicago. She enjoys watching the "Real Housewives" on television and works as a nurse on an Alzheimer's section of a nursing home. She said she hadn't paid much attention to the shooting. She said she has been arrested, but her case was disposed of. It's not clear why she was arrested or exactly what happened to her case, though she said she was treated fairly. She is married and has several children. A prosecutor described her as "black or Hispanic" during jury selection.
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B-76 is a white woman who has lived in central Florida for 18 years. She manages rental properties with her husband of 30 years. She has two adult children, including one who is an attorney. She is involved with rescuing animals in her free time. During jury selection, she said she had been the victim of a nonviolent crime. "Everyone deserves a fair trial," she said.
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B-37 is a white woman who volunteers rescuing animals. She is married to an attorney and has two adult children. She said she and her husband used to have concealed weapons permits. During the last round of questioning, she said she had an issue with the type of weapons people are allowed to carry. She also thought weapons' training was inadequate for people seeking permits. "It should become harder," she said.
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E-6 is a white woman who is married and has two children. She has worked in financial services and has lived in Seminole County for two years. She is active in her church and involved with her children's school. During jury selection, she said she didn't know the facts of the case well.
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E-40 is a white woman who works as a safety officer and recently moved to Seminole County from Iowa. She describes herself as a football fan. During jury selection, she said she had been the victim of a nonviolent crime.
BigSteelThrill
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Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
I posted what I knew, you really wanted me to post a link to a different message board with the text that I already quoted in thread here?You should be lucky I dug up the discovery PDF for you ungrateful bastards that are too lazy to Google for answers that you are so sure are wrong.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
I never asked for anything., But if you make a statement of fact about a detail, a link is the least anyone (your side or the other) could do.
You should be lucky I dug up the discovery PDF for you ungrateful bastards that are too lazy to Google for answers that you are so sure are wrong.
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
Hypocritical much?I never asked for anything., But if you make a statement of fact about a detail, a link is the least anyone (your side or the other) could do.
You should be lucky I dug up the discovery PDF for you ungrateful bastards that are too lazy to Google for answers that you are so sure are wrong.
Maybe you should
practice what
you preach
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
It's schtick. He knows his posts are full of crap.Hypocritical much?I never asked for anything., But if you make a statement of fact about a detail, a link is the least anyone (your side or the other) could do.
You should be lucky I dug up the discovery PDF for you ungrateful bastards that are too lazy to Google for answers that you are so sure are wrong.
Maybe you should
practice what
you preach
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
FootballDummy
Footballguy
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Why does FL have only 6 jurors?? I'd rather have 12 if I were on trial.
timschochet
Footballguy
So one woman is either black or Hispanic? That's kinda a big difference between the two, given this case.
Gawain
Footballguy
It's cheaper and the Supreme Court has ruled it constitutional. Just like you said, if you were on trial you'd rather have 12, so stands to reason that the state (who is more interested in convictions than justice) would prefer fewer.
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