Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch (2 Viewers)

[avoiding injuries]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Bingo...and why folks are upset that only one paid the price for their bad decisions.

Pretty sure GZ has paid a price. It may not be a high enough price to appease you, but he has still paid (and will continue to pay).

He hasn't yet....he might, we'll see. He has options. I said about two days into the case that his payment wouldn't come from criminal charges. He would have to pay in society. As I said, we'll see. It's not about appeasing me, it's about equal payment. So far, one's paid a much more severe price for his actions than the other. Surely that's not in dispute right?

Yes, losing your life is a higher price than what GZ has gone through. In fact, besides your children or spouses life, it may be the highest price there is. But surely, you're not serious by saying GZ hasn't paid a price yet?

 

[culdeus]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Bingo...and why folks are upset that only one paid the price for their bad decisions.

Pretty sure GZ has paid a price. It may not be a high enough price to appease you, but he has still paid (and will continue to pay).

No, GZ gets to finally live out his fantasy of being some kind of cop/vigilante and will get all the attention he so desperately craves, He's going to get millions from a CNN reality show, speaking engagements at right-wing nutbag gun conventions and thinly-veiled racist conferences and meetings. And that's not even counting the money from the book-turned-tv-movie "How I did it"

Martin gets to be dead. Martin's family get to live with the fact that their son was shot even though he could have been fending off what he felt to be a "creepy ### cracker" and the country said it was ok for Zimm to shoot him. Zimm finally gets to live out the fantasy he's always had. He said it in his interview: he wouldn't have done anything differently.

No way he gets millions from all that. His personality cannot possibly carry him and the money is not nearly what you think it might be for those types of circuits. He's not Sarah Palin that was a good speaker to begin with and got famous based off her wacky points. He's basically Joe The Plumber with a body count.

You honestly don't think he's already got publishers bidding against each other for the rights to the exclusive? Point being there is no way to compare the consequences each suffered. One is dead and the other is now going to enjoy a standard of living and attention you could not have possibly achieved before killing Trayvon.

So it's not a wash. And personally I find Zimmerman's paranoia and delusions of grandeur much more disturbing than anything that has been cast at Tray.

I said this case was lost the second they went for anything higher than manslaughter and I was right. If the prosecution had spent their time portraying Zimmerman as the paranoid, delusional, and dangerous man that he is rather than the cold-blooded racist murderer he isn't, they might have gotten a conviction.

I don't think he ends up in anything but debt. Book deals aren't what they used to be and he's already in the hole to his lawyers and this federal case which is pending may end up costing more. Plus, he feels like he needs to be in some secure location somewhere which is costing huge money.

Also, he's young. He can't really hold down a real job for awhile yet. He would need to be looking at making a huge cash in and living off it. I just don't see that happening. The story isn't really all that compelling except for the 3-4 minutes where we don't really know what was going on and his side may not come out until this story is dead and dusty due to pending civil and federal charges.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Bingo...and why folks are upset that only one paid the price for their bad decisions.

The law doesn't mandate a penalty for being an #######. It's too bad that Martin paid a heavier price than Zimmerman, but that doesn't have anything to do with Zimmerman's criminal culpability.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Huh?

Two guys get into a fight. One ends up dead. The guy who lived isn't automatically guilty of a crime.

 

[cstu]

One thing that is happening that I cannot put my finger on is the following, and no disrespect to any of the parties involved or with the fallout of any of it or anything of that nature, but:

Of all the atrocities in America going on today, yesterday, whatever, leaders in the black community (Jackson, Sharpton, whoever else) are hanging their hat on this case to further publicize and take advantage of any perceived racial inequalities in America. Of all the things they could focus on (hate repeating these but Chicago, fatherless kids, poverty, whatever) they are hanging their hats on this case. Knowing (if the leaders cared to look at the evidence) what happened, the leaders are taking a stand with this. I don't care if you are black, white, latino, Martian, but knowing what we know about each of those communities, the black leaders are taking their stand here. That in itself is messed up and shows a lack of focus by the leaders, no?

A few years back when Bill Cosby spoke up, does anyone remember what backlash there was against him? Bill Cosby should have been "appointed" a leader to some degree.

I think it was mixed. There were many black people who agreed but many who didn't like being taken to task for essentially being called bad parents. Unfortunately there were a lot who would rather blame the government for not doing enough rather than take a look in the mirror.

Here's one idiot's response to him telling parents not to be frivolous with their money:

"It is interesting that Cosby expects poor parents, and youth, to be more fiscally responsible than those with far greater resources prove to be," Dyson writes.

But what about the often repeated assertion that poor blacks can't afford to be spendthrifts?

"There is a cruelty to such an observation," according to Dyson. "Not only is the poor parent, or child, at a great disadvantage economically, but they are expected to be more judicious and responsible than their well-to-do counterparts, with far fewer resources."

 

[jonessed]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Bingo...and why folks are upset that only one paid the price for their bad decisions.

Pretty sure GZ has paid a price. It may not be a high enough price to appease you, but he has still paid (and will continue to pay).

He hasn't yet....he might, we'll see. He has options. I said about two days into the case that his payment wouldn't come from criminal charges. He would have to pay in society. As I said, we'll see. It's not about appeasing me, it's about equal payment. So far, one's paid a much more severe price for his actions than the other. Surely that's not in dispute right?

The world doesn't work like that.

 

[tdoss]

Went to the Post Office during lunch. Pulled up and saw a black man standing nearby.

I decided it best to stay in the car until he left.

Didn't want to tempt him with my face.

 

[Mario Kart]

My wife tried using the logic that Zimm would pay for this for the rest of his life. This is the beginning of the ultimate fantasy of his life. Millions from CNN for a reality TV show, speaking gigs at NRA and Tea Party events. I think a run for Congress is probably in order as well.

All this says to me is the stalking and killing a black person in Florida is legal if you can get them to hit you first. And it's questionable that even that happened.

I highly doubt any of these happen. Congress? Nope. Reality show? Nope. Speaking gigs? For what? Nope.

This guy is a freaking hero for a quite large portion of this country's population. CNN reality show is a joke but I'd be shocked if the rest did not happen. A juror has already cut a book deal. Why wouldn't he?

I have not seen or heard any kind of hero worship concerning Zimmerman. Don't know where you are getting your info or anything but this guy is not going to make millions off of this story. Some people said Casey Anthony would make millions yet where is she? Zimmerman is going the same way as her. Not saying you are delusional but to suggest the above is going to happen is crazy talk.

Jurors don't have the backlash that the person who shot the gun have. Had I been on the jury, I would never speak of this again. I wouldn't even tell family members that I was on this case. No good can come of it.

 

[tdoss]

I gotta think Zim makes serious duckets off of NBC and CNN...and deservedly so. I can't believe some of the crap they did to him.

As for his story...what more could there be? He already told his story many times...how could there be a best seller in that?

Maybe if he focuses on how he's had to live under a rock and how he's getting by while looking over his shoulder all the time, maybe...I could see that being somewhat compelling.

 

[Mr Two Cents]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Bingo...and why folks are upset that only one paid the price for their bad decisions.

Pretty sure GZ has paid a price. It may not be a high enough price to appease you, but he has still paid (and will continue to pay).

He hasn't yet....he might, we'll see. He has options. I said about two days into the case that his payment wouldn't come from criminal charges. He would have to pay in society. As I said, we'll see. It's not about appeasing me, it's about equal payment. So far, one's paid a much more severe price for his actions than the other. Surely that's not in dispute right?

Of course it is, the thug is rightfully dead, the person that had to defend himself has already paid too high a price.

 

[renesauz]

So essentially bad decisions by each led to an altercation where with the evidence we have been presented (no eyewtinesses), both should be able to use self-defense as written by Florida law. So GZ will walk away not guilty, and if TM would have killed GZ, I believe he could have used self-defense if charges were pressed (which I really doubt they would have, especially if GZ has gun on him).

And Martin would have been arrested. There would have been no media circus around the event providing Martin the opportunity to solicit funding from the general public for better lawyers. Thus Martin, like most everyone else that claims self defense very likely gets convicted. Maybe Woz plea bargains to a lesser charge. (Then again per Wikipedia conviction rates in Florida are only 59% so maybe my beliefs on prosecution dominant success rate is skewed here.)

Exactly right. And if for some reason the case WAS publicized, how many of the conservatives in this thread currently going out of their way to defend George Zimmerman would defend Trayvon Martin?

Can't you ask the flip too? Why does it matter? Hypocrisy knows no bounds so why in the end does your question really matter? Why even ask it? For a gotcha moment? It doesn't bring TM back to life and it doesn't do anything for GZ. Lest anyone in this thread forget, nothing that happens in this trial has anything to do with you - a boy is dead and a man ruined his own life one way or the other, most likely. Does i-winning an internet debate about who is more guilty and why someone who has a certain political slant really matter?

I really don't mean to go after you personally, I really don't, but your question is a hollier than thou, I'm better than you type of question.

I don't mean to come off as holier than thou. That's something that I ascribe to the other side of the debate in this thread.

But it does bother me that so many people in this thread are willing to afford every civil liberty to George Zimmerman while at the same time ignoring the fact that so many people in our judicial system are convicted every day on far less evidence- especially young black teens like Trayvon Martin.

But that isn't a question that matters in this case. In this court of law, with these facts, with this relevant evidence as allowed by the court, the civil liberties of this defendant matter more than anything else. The state has the burden of proof for a reason. Taking the liberty away from a citizen is the most powerful and destructive power the government has, and we have designed a system that makes damn sure they cross every t dot every I and do every single thing they can without allowing reasonable doubt to set in before we give them the power to do what they want to do. Everyone, in every court case, in every state, with every defendant, every single day should champion, cherish and protect in their actions, words, or thoughts the civil liberties of every criminal defendant, whether their name is George Zimmerman, Jodi Arias, Joe Schmo, whoever.

If you want to make sure that more young black men have "better days" in court, the solution should never come remotely close to, well, let's make sure to take a little away from the next white or Hispanic guy, just to even the scales a little. That might just be the most damaging thing possible to the very people you are trying to help.

I have not been following this thread but happened in here at the right time to notice this post. Excellent posting, YankeeFan, excellent posting. The bolded parts in particular. Well done.

Ditto.

Agreed. Thanks for highlighting this post, I missed it when it was made. Good stuff, YankeeFan.

ON this one we can agree

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

.... They both made huge and ultimately incorrect conclusions about each other. ...

Martin may have made many mistakes, but how was his characterization of Zimmerman incorrect?

How was Zimmermans? This kid was already a criminal, who bragged about his streetfighting. Yet, we are supposed to believe GZ started the physical altercation?

Come on....use your head.

You want to say "based on Martin's past he must have started the fight" while ignoring Zimmerman's completely

“Usually he was just a cool guy,” said the former co-worker, who the newspaper didn't name. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When dude snapped, he snapped.” The Daily News said Zimmerman earned $50 to $100 a night for the parties. He was fired for being too aggressive with patrons.

“He had a temper and he became a liability,” the newspaper quoted the former co-worker as saying. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”

But I didn't say anything in the post you replied to about who started anything. (Your rebuttal to points not made is of course why circus boy liked it.) I asked how Martin's characterization of Zimmerman was a mistake? Zimmerman's characterization of Martin that night was of course mistaken - not on drugs, not checking out which house to break in but just talking on the phone.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

.... They both made huge and ultimately incorrect conclusions about each other. ...

Martin may have made many mistakes, but how was his characterization of Zimmerman incorrect?

If the evidence presented is to be believed. Then Martin incorrectly assumed that he could kick the bat snot out of Zimmerman and get away with it. Zimmerman in apparent fear for his life then shot Martin. He characterized Zimmerman as just some punk he could rough up and then move on.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Do the drug laws in this country that put many people behind bars who would otherwise not be incarcerated have anything to do with this?

Does the availability of drugs and weapons in poorer neighborhoods have anything to do with it?

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Huh?

Two guys get into a fight. One ends up dead. The guy who lived isn't automatically guilty of a crime.

But the guy who lived being honest about it doesn't automatically make him "not guilty" either.

 

[The Duff Man]

I am teaching my 5 year old that life isnt fair....does that lesson really need to get brought into the FFA?

Yeah they didnt get equal punishment....but an eye for an eye wasnt on the table.

Thug made a big mistake bringing fists to a gun fight.....oops gun.

 

[Henry Ford]

I think the only possible way Zimmerman cashes in on this big time is interracial porn.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I think the only possible way Zimmerman cashes in on this big time is interracial porn.

With a white or black person?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Bingo...and why folks are upset that only one paid the price for their bad decisions.

Pretty sure GZ has paid a price. It may not be a high enough price to appease you, but he has still paid (and will continue to pay).

He hasn't yet....he might, we'll see. He has options. I said about two days into the case that his payment wouldn't come from criminal charges. He would have to pay in society. As I said, we'll see. It's not about appeasing me, it's about equal payment. So far, one's paid a much more severe price for his actions than the other. Surely that's not in dispute right?

Of course it is, the thug is rightfully dead, the person that had to defend himself has already paid too high a price.

Aaaaand on THAT note

 

[17seconds]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Huh?

Two guys get into a fight. One ends up dead. The guy who lived isn't automatically guilty of a crime.

No ####. What an dumb, oversimplified statement. The circumstances are what make it a crime or not. You can't distill that out.

The only evidence against Trayvon is that he was winning a fistfight against a guy who had been following him in the dark for no reason.

 

[5 digit know nothing]

Is this the thread where we come to vent our anger about the innocent boy armed with nothing but a bag of skittles and juice was chased down by the vigilante wannabe cop carrying two flashlights and a loaded gun in the ready to fire position?

 

[Dr Oadi]

Is this the thread where we come to vent our anger about the innocent boy armed with nothing but a bag of skittles and juice was chased down by the vigilante wannabe cop carrying two flashlights and a loaded gun in the ready to fire position?

No you want this thread http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=684016 for that.

 

[The Duff Man]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Huh?

Two guys get into a fight. One ends up dead. The guy who lived isn't automatically guilty of a crime.

No ####. What an dumb, oversimplified statement. The circumstances are what make it a crime or not. You can't distill that out.

The only evidence against Trayvon is that he was winning a fistfight against a guy who had been following him in the dark for no reason.

The law allows you to kill someone who is beating you in a fist fight if the circumstances are right. If nothing else comes of this, maybe there will be fewer jackwads getting into fist fights? Or more wannebe community cops packing heat :(

 

[Charlie Frown]

I can't believe this is still going.

This was shaping up to be a slam dunk self defense case as soon as the facts started becoming available (early last spring/summer) and that is what it turned out to be.

Who knows what really happened? The jury made the correct decision based on the evidence that was presented.

 

[Spanky267]

.... They both made huge and ultimately incorrect conclusions about each other. ...

Martin may have made many mistakes, but how was his characterization of Zimmerman incorrect?

If the evidence presented is to be believed. Then Martin incorrectly assumed that he could kick the bat snot out of Zimmerman and get away with it. Zimmerman in apparent fear for his life then shot Martin. He characterized Zimmerman as just some punk he could rough up and then move on.

I think the jury came to a similar conclusion or at least the conclusion that the Prosecutions case was less believable than Zimmerman's story.

 

[tommyboy]

Seems like the media has done a good job fomenting racial tension and the brainless masses have done a good job eating it up and licking the plate.

george zimmerman is a latino democrat that voted for Obama,. Trayvon was black, err African American. And CNN and others reported it as "white hispanic" crime. Give me a break.

the race hustlers once again prove themselves as the most racist of all.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Seems like the media has done a good job fomenting racial tension and the brainless masses have done a good job eating it up and licking the plate.

george zimmerman is a latino democrat that voted for Obama,. Trayvon was black, err African American. And CNN and others reported it as "white hispanic" crime. Give me a break.

the race hustlers once again prove themselves as the most racist of all.

"White Hispanic".

I still crack up hearing this. How desperate is everyone for a story that their willing to foment racial tensions where possibly MORE people will get injured or killed?

Oh wait... then that's ANOTHER story for them to report on!

 

[Billy Bats]

In 513 Days Between Trayvon Shooting and Zimmerman Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Murdered by OTHER BLACKShttp://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/655...erdict-11106-blacks-murdered-by-other-blacks/

 

[Spanky267]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Huh?

Two guys get into a fight. One ends up dead. The guy who lived isn't automatically guilty of a crime.

No ####. What an dumb, oversimplified statement. The circumstances are what make it a crime or not. You can't distill that out.

The only evidence against Trayvon is that he was winning a fistfight against a guy who had been following him in the dark for no reason.

The evidence against Zimmerman is that he shot the guy who was beating on him.

 

[MaxThreshold]

In 513 Days Between Trayvon Shooting and Zimmerman Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Murdered by OTHER BLACKShttp://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/655...erdict-11106-blacks-murdered-by-other-blacks/

It's Bush's fault. Isn't that the standard line?

 

[dozer]

The witness, who is being interviewed by Anderson Cooper just mentioned the SYG law as having an impact on her decision.

 

[The Commish]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Bingo...and why folks are upset that only one paid the price for their bad decisions.

Pretty sure GZ has paid a price. It may not be a high enough price to appease you, but he has still paid (and will continue to pay).

He hasn't yet....he might, we'll see. He has options. I said about two days into the case that his payment wouldn't come from criminal charges. He would have to pay in society. As I said, we'll see. It's not about appeasing me, it's about equal payment. So far, one's paid a much more severe price for his actions than the other. Surely that's not in dispute right?

Yes, losing your life is a higher price than what GZ has gone through. In fact, besides your children or spouses life, it may be the highest price there is. But surely, you're not serious by saying GZ hasn't paid a price yet?

In comparison to Martin he's paid virtually nothing. At the end of things, on his death bed, this event may end up having ruined his life. I don't question that. We'll see.

 

[The Commish]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Bingo...and why folks are upset that only one paid the price for their bad decisions.

The law doesn't mandate a penalty for being an #######. It's too bad that Martin paid a heavier price than Zimmerman, but that doesn't have anything to do with Zimmerman's criminal culpability.

I understand that and it's unfortunate.

 

[Witz]

take home message....walk away and call for help. This applies to travon and zimmerman.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge that both parties behaved badly here. Zimmerman is a wannabe tough guy who followed Martin around. Martin decided to get in his face about it. This is exactly the kind of donk-on-donk confrontation that doesn't end well, especially when one of the donks is armed. It doesn't follow from that that the survivor committed a crime of any kind.

Huh?

Two guys get into a fight. One ends up dead. The guy who lived isn't automatically guilty of a crime.

No ####. What an dumb, oversimplified statement. The circumstances are what make it a crime or not. You can't distill that out.

The only evidence against Trayvon is that he was winning a fistfight against a guy who had been following him in the dark for no reason.

The law allows you to kill someone who is beating you in a fist fight if the circumstances are right. If nothing else comes of this, maybe there will be fewer jackwads getting into fist fights? Or more wannebe community cops packing heat :(

You make it sound as if it was a sanctioned fight where each individual started in their own corner and starting fighting at the sound of the bell.

Assaulting someone without a weapon <> a fist fight

 

[Billy Bats]

In 513 Days Between Trayvon Shooting and Zimmerman Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Murdered by OTHER BLACKShttp://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/655...erdict-11106-blacks-murdered-by-other-blacks/

It's Bush's fault. Isn't that the standard line?

I'm a white Italian, I believe it's all my fault.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

DiDi on Piers Morgan right now

This is hard to watch

 

[Ghost Rider]

The witness, who is being interviewed by Anderson Cooper just mentioned the SYG law as having an impact on her decision.

She also said no one on the jury thought race had anything to do with this case.

More of Cooper's interview with her coming up at 9 p.m. Central Time on CNN.

 

[Billy Bats]

DiDi on Piers Morgan right now

This is hard to watch

Is she stoned?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

DiDi on Piers Morgan right now

This is hard to watch

Is she stoned?

She says she does not smoke the weed

 

[Tibetan Sherpa]

DiDi on Piers Morgan right nowThis is hard to watch

She's doing better now, than she did on the stand.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Is that her lawyer sitting next to her?

She'll need him with Piers lobbing these softball questions at her.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

DiDi on Piers Morgan right nowThis is hard to watch

She's doing better now, than she did on the stand.

Speaking better yes, but lying through her teeth.

 

[Tibetan Sherpa]

DiDi on Piers Morgan right nowThis is hard to watch

She's doing better now, than she did on the stand.

Speaking better yes, but lying through her teeth.

She's not lying. She's too dumb to lie.

 

[Billy Bats]

DiDi on Piers Morgan right nowThis is hard to watch

She's doing better now, than she did on the stand.

Speaking better yes, but lying through her teeth.

Missed her part of the trial. Did West beat her up? And what's she lying about?

 

[Mr Two Cents]

This should make you all feel better:

Witness claims youths yelled 'this is for Trayvon' in beating Police still investigating claim in beating of Hispanic manSorry it wasn't a white guy Tim.

 

[Joe McGee]

DiDi on Piers Morgan right nowThis is hard to watch

She's doing better now, than she did on the stand.

Speaking better yes, but lying through her teeth.

She's not lying. She's too dumb to lie.

She tweeted about smoking weed. Lie no. 1.

 

[Tibetan Sherpa]

Is that her lawyer sitting next to her?She'll need him with Piers lobbing these softball questions at her.

Yes. Just like Zimmerman had his lawyer next to him in the Hannity interview as Hannity lobbed his softballs.

 

[Joe McGee]

Oh, she has trouble speaking because of an underbite. All this time I thought she spoke poorly because she was uneducated. I didn't realize it was the underbite.

Of course the juror that Anderson Cooper interviewed didn't find her credible. No one did but Tim, CNN and MSNBC.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Oh... the under-bite.

 

[Spanky267]

She is trying to say that the word "cracker" or "cracka" is not a racial epithet.