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Steve Tasker said:
I'm out of Buffalo News free articles for the month, so I am not entirely sure what the article says, but Lloyd donated all proceeds from the lunch to Justice for Migrant Families WNY, a local non-profit.

For those who don't know, this is a prominent food-truck-operation-turned-small-brick-and-mortar-local-chain facing a bunch of backlash for serving a lunch at a nearby detention center, which apparently holds ICE detainees.  It's unclear whether they knew this or not when they made the decision to serve the lunch. They are a pretty small operation (4 food trucks, 2 restaurants, and an ice cream shop, I think, with a small catering division).  They were pretty harshly criticized and felt the need to issue a formal apology.  https://twitter.com/whereslloyd/status/1187390400954126336
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This is the weirdest part of this presidency.  We're all running out of free articles from Buffalo News.

 
Mister CIA said:
Hoo boy.

https://twitter.com/Orthofacts/status/1187942524955922432?s=09
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To be fair, non-white people do tend to get asked this question a lot, and it's often meant as "What country are you from?" as opposed to a more mundane "What's your home town?"  If you were third-generation natural born citizen, you might get tired of this question after a while too.  (It goes without saying that filing a formal complaint over something so trivial is way over the top).

 
IvanKaramazov said:
To be fair, non-white people do tend to get asked this question a lot, and it's often meant as "What country are you from?" as opposed to a more mundane "What's your home town?"  If you were third-generation natural born citizen, you might get tired of this question after a while too.  (It goes without saying that filing a formal complaint over something so trivial is way over the top).
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I do love that the doctor is saying “this is affecting my patients’ care! I couldn’t see my normal ten patients I would have seen during the hour administration talked to me.”

Yeah, I’m sorry those patients didn’t get five minutes of care each from you.  Shame. What a terrible loss. 

 
Seems like you are cherry picking random anecdotal stories from a nation of 350 million and extrapolating them across an entire population. 

 
Steve Tasker said:
I'm out of Buffalo News free articles for the month, so I am not entirely sure what the article says, but Lloyd donated all proceeds from the lunch to Justice for Migrant Families WNY, a local non-profit.

For those who don't know, this is a prominent food-truck-operation-turned-small-brick-and-mortar-local-chain facing a bunch of backlash for serving a lunch at a nearby detention center, which apparently holds ICE detainees.  It's unclear whether they knew this or not when they made the decision to serve the lunch. They are a pretty small operation (4 food trucks, 2 restaurants, and an ice cream shop, I think, with a small catering division).  They were pretty harshly criticized and felt the need to issue a formal apology.  https://twitter.com/whereslloyd/status/1187390400954126336
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Today, they held a press conference to apologize for last week's apology - https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/lloyd-taco-owners-to-hold-news-conference-following-social-media-controversy

 
Regarding the question, where are you from,  I've lived in well over a dozen locales and I always ask people about where they are from.  Surprisingly I discover common ground more often than one might expect.  

Anyway, to report and accuse one of agression, micro or otherwise, makes aggression a two way street.

I guess it's up to me to accomodate.

 
I am curious with the big crackdown this weekend, why is this thread still active?

And this thread was created by the mod who started the thread "You are about to be suspended"

 i was OK with this thread( just ignored it), but now it sticks out

 
badmojo1006 said:
I am curious with the big crackdown this weekend, why is this thread still active?

And this thread was created by the mod who started the thread "You are about to be suspended"

 i was OK with this thread( just ignored it), but now it sticks out
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By my count, you just earned yourself 3 weeks worth of suspension. ;)

 
IvanKaramazov said:
To be fair, non-white people do tend to get asked this question a lot, and it's often meant as "What country are you from?" as opposed to a more mundane "What's your home town?"  If you were third-generation natural born citizen, you might get tired of this question after a while too.  (It goes without saying that filing a formal complaint over something so trivial is way over the top).
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Also to be fair, white people get asked this a lot. I think many, many people use it as an ice breaker. If someone thinks the other person is asking "what country are you from?" then they could easily combat that and just answer with their home town.

The people in that twitter thread talking about mico-agressions... geez, give me a break. I bet this lady is insufferable. 

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The main difference to me between the far left and far right is that the far right results in climate change denial, hate speech, and other damaging stuff. The far left is just painfully annoying. 

 
FF Ninja said:
Also to be fair, white people get asked this a lot. I think many, many people use it as an ice breaker. If someone thinks the other person is asking "what country are you from?" then they could easily combat that and just answer with their home town.

The people in that twitter thread talking about mico-agressions... geez, give me a break. I bet this lady is insufferable. 

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The main difference to me between the far left and far right is that the far right results in climate change denial, hate speech, and other damaging stuff. The far left is just painfully annoying. 
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I completely understand where you're coming from, and I agree with you on a Platonic level.  My experience from working with a ton of students at a university is that international students are happy to be asked about where they're from.  They know they're foreign students and they like to talk about their home country.   If you happen to know something about their country, they're extremely impressed and happy to engage with you.  

Also, "Where are you from" is my very first go-to question for students I interact with at freshman orientation.  Like you said, it's an icebreaker that builds comraderie since most of my school's students come from like four states.  They tell me their home town and I nod sagely as I vaguely recall where it's at and whether I regularly drive through it on my way to Minneapolis.  

But suppose you're a third generation Vietnamese student.  If you're going to school at my university, you are living in an overwhelmingly white community, and you are going to get this question over and over and over again because you "look like" a foreign student.  But you're as American as you or me.  You don't know #### about Vietnam, you don't speak any Vietnamese, and you're more worried about ranking up in Call of Duty than anything involving Henry Kissinger.  It doesn't take a lot of imagination to see why this would get old.

Strangely, this is probably one area where my views have been shaped by being a right-winger in academia.  The first time I encountered the term "micro-aggression," I knew exactly what they meant and exactly why it was significant.  You just have to live for a bit in a world where you are the foreigner to get why these things are mildly irritating.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
I completely understand where you're coming from, and I agree with you on a Platonic level.  My experience from working with a ton of students at a university is that international students are happy to be asked about where they're from.  They know they're foreign students and they like to talk about their home country.   If you happen to know something about their country, they're extremely impressed and happy to engage with you.  

Also, "Where are you from" is my very first go-to question for students I interact with at freshman orientation.  Like you said, it's an icebreaker that builds comraderie since most of my school's students come from like four states.  They tell me their home town and I nod sagely as I vaguely recall where it's at and whether I regularly drive through it on my way to Minneapolis.  

But suppose you're a third generation Vietnamese student.  If you're going to school at my university, you are living in an overwhelmingly white community, and you are going to get this question over and over and over again because you "look like" a foreign student.  But you're as American as you or me.  You don't know #### about Vietnam, you don't speak any Vietnamese, and you're more worried about ranking up in Call of Duty than anything involving Henry Kissinger.  It doesn't take a lot of imagination to see why this would get old.

Strangely, this is probably one area where my views have been shaped by being a right-winger in academia.  The first time I encountered the term "micro-aggression," I knew exactly what they meant and exactly why it was significant.  You just have to live for a bit in a world where you are the foreigner to get why these things are mildly irritating.
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If I was in that situation and for some reason didn't like divulging my heritage, I'd simply answer with either my birth city, the city I grew up in, or both. To me it all boils down to intent. If I can tell someone is just trying to make an honest attempt at breaking the ice and getting to know me, I'd think it would be beneficial to say "I was born in X, grew up in Y, but my great grandparents were from Z." Conversely, if it feels like someone is giving off the "you don't belong here" vibe, then I'd probably adopt a passive aggressive tone and just say something like "I'm from Texas but my parents are from Indiana" or something like that. I've never been opposed to fighting fire with fire, but generally I consider intent a critical aspect and give people the benefit of the doubt on things like that. 

IvanKaramazov said:
Strangely, this is probably one area where my views have been shaped by being a right-winger in academia.  The first time I encountered the term "micro-aggression," I knew exactly what they meant and exactly why it was significant.  You just have to live for a bit in a world where you are the foreigner to get why these things are mildly irritating.
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Can you expand upon the bolded? I mean, the term is pretty self explanatory, so I didn't have any trouble deciphering what it meant, but in the example we're talking about, I'd hardly call it significant.

As for things that are mildly irritating, that's the category where "people looking really hard for excuses to get offended" would fall under. =P

 
FF Ninja said:
Can you expand upon the bolded? I mean, the term is pretty self explanatory, so I didn't have any trouble deciphering what it meant, but in the example we're talking about, I'd hardly call it significant.

As for things that are mildly irritating, that's the category where "people looking really hard for excuses to get offended" would fall under. =P
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I get what you're saying.  Asking somebody where they're from is trivial and there's no rational reason for a person to get worked up over it.  But the issue with micro-aggressions, as I see it, is that while each individual action is trivial and insignificant by itself, their cumulative effect over many such actions is to create an unwelcoming and hostile environment.

To continue the hypothetical I made up earlier, consider a third-gen college student of Vietnamese ancestry.  This person was born in the US, doesn't know a lick of Vietnamese or Mandarin or whatever, plays Fortnight in his spare time, listens to whatever groups are popular in The Year of Our Lord 2019, etc.  In other words, he's as American as you or me.  He goes to college someplace rural and white, where he stands out as "foreign looking."  

On a daily or near-daily basis, somebody asks him where he's from, as if he's not American.  He has to explain whether he's Chinese or Japanese.  He's called upon to be the Official Spokesperson of Asian People whenever an Asia-adjacent topic comes up.  Everybody assumes that he's good at math, and people do a double-take if he's studying something non-STEM-related.  Locals speak more slowly to him when they first meet him because they assume that English isn't his native language.  Nobody mentions sports when making small talk because of course nobody from Vietnam would know anything about the NFL.  And so on.

Each of these individual things, happening once in isolation, is no big deal.  None of them are examples of overt racism or xenophobia or ethnic hatred.  Some are even well-intentioned.  But they have the cumulative effect of forcing this student to spend mental energy shrugging off a stream of small offenses, which is something you and I never have to contend with as white guys.  

Now sure, at some point this student is going to have to figure out a way to just deal with this sort of stuff.  But I can do my part in trying to put myself in his shoes and avoid doing the sorts of things I mentioned above.  It's just an issue of mindfulness.   

 
IvanKaramazov said:
I get what you're saying.  Asking somebody where they're from is trivial and there's no rational reason for a person to get worked up over it.  But the issue with micro-aggressions, as I see it, is that while each individual action is trivial and insignificant by itself, their cumulative effect over many such actions is to create an unwelcoming and hostile environment.

To continue the hypothetical I made up earlier, consider a third-gen college student of Vietnamese ancestry.  This person was born in the US, doesn't know a lick of Vietnamese or Mandarin or whatever, plays Fortnight in his spare time, listens to whatever groups are popular in The Year of Our Lord 2019, etc.  In other words, he's as American as you or me.  He goes to college someplace rural and white, where he stands out as "foreign looking."  

On a daily or near-daily basis, somebody asks him where he's from, as if he's not American.  He has to explain whether he's Chinese or Japanese.  He's called upon to be the Official Spokesperson of Asian People whenever an Asia-adjacent topic comes up.  Everybody assumes that he's good at math, and people do a double-take if he's studying something non-STEM-related.  Locals speak more slowly to him when they first meet him because they assume that English isn't his native language.  Nobody mentions sports when making small talk because of course nobody from Vietnam would know anything about the NFL.  And so on.

Each of these individual things, happening once in isolation, is no big deal.  None of them are examples of overt racism or xenophobia or ethnic hatred.  Some are even well-intentioned.  But they have the cumulative effect of forcing this student to spend mental energy shrugging off a stream of small offenses, which is something you and I never have to contend with as white guys.  

Now sure, at some point this student is going to have to figure out a way to just deal with this sort of stuff.  But I can do my part in trying to put myself in his shoes and avoid doing the sorts of things I mentioned above.  It's just an issue of mindfulness.   
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Excellent explanation. 

I'd also say "yeah, sure, he will have to deal with this at some point but 'some point' doesn't have to be from the authority figures during his education."

 
IvanKaramazov said:
I get what you're saying.  Asking somebody where they're from is trivial and there's no rational reason for a person to get worked up over it.  But the issue with micro-aggressions, as I see it, is that while each individual action is trivial and insignificant by itself, their cumulative effect over many such actions is to create an unwelcoming and hostile environment.

To continue the hypothetical I made up earlier, consider a third-gen college student of Vietnamese ancestry.  This person was born in the US, doesn't know a lick of Vietnamese or Mandarin or whatever, plays Fortnight in his spare time, listens to whatever groups are popular in The Year of Our Lord 2019, etc.  In other words, he's as American as you or me.  He goes to college someplace rural and white, where he stands out as "foreign looking."  

On a daily or near-daily basis, somebody asks him where he's from, as if he's not American.  He has to explain whether he's Chinese or Japanese.  He's called upon to be the Official Spokesperson of Asian People whenever an Asia-adjacent topic comes up.  Everybody assumes that he's good at math, and people do a double-take if he's studying something non-STEM-related.  Locals speak more slowly to him when they first meet him because they assume that English isn't his native language.  Nobody mentions sports when making small talk because of course nobody from Vietnam would know anything about the NFL.  And so on.

Each of these individual things, happening once in isolation, is no big deal.  None of them are examples of overt racism or xenophobia or ethnic hatred.  Some are even well-intentioned.  But they have the cumulative effect of forcing this student to spend mental energy shrugging off a stream of small offenses, which is something you and I never have to contend with as white guys.  

Now sure, at some point this student is going to have to figure out a way to just deal with this sort of stuff.  But I can do my part in trying to put myself in his shoes and avoid doing the sorts of things I mentioned above.  It's just an issue of mindfulness.   
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I don't disagree that these things could end up being tiresome if as prevalent as you're assuming*, but I'm more calling into question if the word aggression is even fitting here. And my annoyance isn't with the hypothetical guy getting tired of being asked where he's from, it's with the DB that reported someone for asking where they were from or the obnoxious "woke" white girl in the twitter comments.

Personally, I tend to find myself asking people "how long have you lived in [current city]?" when making small talk just because it seems less worn out of an ice breaker. 

*If he's wearing a sports hat or shirt, I'm sure people would talk to him about sports and it's not like people would shy away from the topic if he were to bring it up himself. I feel like the asian math/STEM stereotype is fading quickly. As mentioned the "counter attack" response to where he's from is easy enough and should steer the conversation in the right direction for most people.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
I get what you're saying.  Asking somebody where they're from is trivial and there's no rational reason for a person to get worked up over it.  But the issue with micro-aggressions, as I see it, is that while each individual action is trivial and insignificant by itself, their cumulative effect over many such actions is to create an unwelcoming and hostile environment.

To continue the hypothetical I made up earlier, consider a third-gen college student of Vietnamese ancestry.  This person was born in the US, doesn't know a lick of Vietnamese or Mandarin or whatever, plays Fortnight in his spare time, listens to whatever groups are popular in The Year of Our Lord 2019, etc.  In other words, he's as American as you or me.  He goes to college someplace rural and white, where he stands out as "foreign looking."  

On a daily or near-daily basis, somebody asks him where he's from, as if he's not American.  He has to explain whether he's Chinese or Japanese.  He's called upon to be the Official Spokesperson of Asian People whenever an Asia-adjacent topic comes up.  Everybody assumes that he's good at math, and people do a double-take if he's studying something non-STEM-related.  Locals speak more slowly to him when they first meet him because they assume that English isn't his native language.  Nobody mentions sports when making small talk because of course nobody from Vietnam would know anything about the NFL.  And so on.

Each of these individual things, happening once in isolation, is no big deal.  None of them are examples of overt racism or xenophobia or ethnic hatred.  Some are even well-intentioned.  But they have the cumulative effect of forcing this student to spend mental energy shrugging off a stream of small offenses, which is something you and I never have to contend with as white guys.  

Now sure, at some point this student is going to have to figure out a way to just deal with this sort of stuff.  But I can do my part in trying to put myself in his shoes and avoid doing the sorts of things I mentioned above.  It's just an issue of mindfulness.   
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Weird that so many college kids still think people are foreigners when they have no accent whatsoever. 

 
BassNBrew said:
Would you please start a separate topic about this.  I would like to learn more about it from people like you.
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I think it already exists Here

Last time I looked into it, the only potential health consequence that is weakly linked to GMO is an uptick in food allergies. What are your concern(s)?

 
Henry Ford said:
I do love that the doctor is saying “this is affecting my patients’ care! I couldn’t see my normal ten patients I would have seen during the hour administration talked to me.”

Yeah, I’m sorry those patients didn’t get five minutes of care each from you.  Shame. What a terrible loss. 
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That’s a standard physician excuse to end a conversation, as it’s nearly impossible to call them on what is likely BS.

 
TheMagus said:
I'm confused. Did something bad happen at the protest or were the students just upset because the newspaper took a picture of the protest?
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They apologized for taking pictures and reporting on the protest on Sessions.  Then for reaching out to the protesting students via University directory in an attempt to interview them.

In fairness I just read that the editor now admits they over-corrected.  But I think this is a pretty good example of how tightly wound some on the far, far left (mainly academia) about wokeness and the infantilizing of college students and certain groups.

 
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Hugh Jass said:
They apologized for taking pictures and reporting on the protest on Sessions.  Then for reaching out to the protesting students via University directory in an attempt to interview them.

In fairness I just read that the editor now admits they over-corrected.  But I think this is a pretty good example of how tightly wound some on the far, far left (mainly academia) about wokeness and the infantilizing of college students and certain groups.
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Also, the dean of the journalism school put out an incredibly good statement on this whole thing.

 
That was a really good piece by the dean. The young reporters have been getting flak from multiple angles (some deservedly, some not deservedly) and he did a good job of putting things into perspective.

It sounds like some of the reporters may have been more aggressive than they needed to be, and those actions may have merited an apology. But the bottom line is that if you attend a public protest, you should not have any expectations of complete privacy.

 
Oh, good. There's something called "white empiricism," which is "the phenomenon through which only white people (particularly white men) are read has having a fundamental capacity for objectivity and Black people (particularly Black women) are produced as an ontological other."

It turns out that white empiricism undermines Einstein's theory of General Relativity because if all frames of reference are equally competent, as Einstein's theory maintains, then why are there so few female African-American physicists? Checkmate, scientists!

 
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Maurile Tremblay said:
Oh, good. There's something called "white empiricism," which is "the phenomenon through which only white people (particularly white men) are read has having a fundamental capacity for objectivity and Black people (particularly Black women) are produced as an ontological other."

It turns out that white empiricism undermines Einstein's theory of General Relativity because if all frames of reference are equally competent, as Einstein's theory maintains, then why are there so few female African-American physicists? Checkmate, scientists!
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Stumbled across this side-story earlier today:  https://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1204179575267217408?s=20

just weird.

EDIT: I tried to read the "white empiricism" link; I really tried.  It's more pain than I can endure.

 
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Maurile Tremblay said:
Speaking of gender pronouns ... this essay is, to me, one of the most effective examples of persuasive writing I've come across. No matter where you start out, I think it's really hard to follow the author's argument all the way through and end up not thinking that using whatever pronouns people prefer is worth the trouble.
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Hi MT. I read the whole thing. My girlfriend struggles with OCD so I enjoyed the bring your hair dryer with you solution.

It was nice to hear the viewpoint of someone who obviously works with people who have mental issues like OCD and dysphoria. 

I used to work at a senior living community. One of the things we do is to separate the independent people from the assisted living and memory care people. The idea is that you don’t want the mentally fit getting dragged into the mentally less fit world.

So where I push back on the trans movement is definitely drag queen story hour. If you aren’t aware of it here is a link to their website.

https://www.dragqueenstoryhour.org

When children are being indoctrinated into this type of thing and mutilating themselves before they are old enough to grow out of it because maybe they would like to get the glorification these drag queens are receiving I think we hurt our kids.

 
pinkham13 said:
So where I push back on the trans movement is definitely drag queen story hour. If you aren’t aware of it here is a link to their website.

https://www.dragqueenstoryhour.org

When children are being indoctrinated into this type of thing and mutilating themselves before they are old enough to grow out of it because maybe they would like to get the glorification these drag queens are receiving I think we hurt our kids.
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Yeah, when kids are involved it becomes a pretty complicated issue.

Coincidentally, the best thing I've read on that subject is on that same site: SlateStarCodex -- Should transgender children transition? The essay is an interesting experiment: it's coauthored by two people with opposite opinions about the subject who've collaborated to write a single article attempting to cover all the angles. I think it works well and wish that style of collaboration were more common.

 
I feel like MT bumped this solely as a way of saying "Hey look, I started a topic called foolishness on the left once".

Well timed at the very least given the thread lock and looking the other way as the mob discusses the gullibility of conservatives.

Fun times.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
Yeah, when kids are involved it becomes a pretty complicated issue.

Coincidentally, the best thing I've read on that subject is on that same site: SlateStarCodex -- Should transgender children transition? The essay is an interesting experiment: it's coauthored by two people with opposite opinions about the subject who've collaborated to write a single article attempting to cover all the angles. I think it works well and wish that style of collaboration were more common.
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I skipped down to the conclusion which basically says some kids might benefit from transitioning and others might not.

I do know many have transitioned back as well and wished they had never compounded their situation with a physical attempt to change their birth sex.

In the end a woman can never truly become a man or vice versa. It’s really mind boggling to think that would ever be true.

 
Mr Anonymous said:
I feel like MT bumped this solely as a way of saying "Hey look, I started a topic called foolishness on the left once".

Well timed at the very least given the thread lock and looking the other way as the mob discusses the gullibility of conservatives.

Fun times.
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I think he’s helping change the tone. Get with it please.

 
Mr Anonymous said:
I feel like MT bumped this solely as a way of saying "Hey look, I started a topic called foolishness on the left once".

Well timed at the very least given the thread lock and looking the other way as the mob discusses the gullibility of conservatives.

Fun times.
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I don't want to keep telling people to stick to the topic in all substantive threads. If you have a comment about the moderation, this is not the thread for it. Thanks.

 
Mister CIA said:
Stumbled across this side-story earlier today:  https://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1204179575267217408?s=20

just weird.

EDIT: I tried to read the "white empiricism" link; I really tried.  It's more pain than I can endure.
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On a closely-related note, I attended a conference for academic deans a couple of months ago, and one of the sessions I attended dealt with "inclusive" hiring practices.  (Sessions on this sort of topic are always way more entertaining than sessions on assessment).  One of the presenters was the dean of a college that included a physics department.  She explained that the department ran a search for a faculty position, and all four of the proposed finalists -- who would get on-campus interviews -- happened to be men.  The dean insisted that the department keep going down their list to find a woman to bring in.  Well, it turned out that none of the qualified applicants were women.  So the dean told the department to reach out to their colleagues around the country and drum up some women applicants.  They still couldn't find any.  So then the dean cancelled the search, and told the department that if they wanted to keep the position, they would have to hire in a different sub-field that included more women.  The department complied, and not surprisingly made sure to hire a woman because faculty aren't stupid.

This was all presented in a "Here's how you should creatively approach the hiring process to make your faculty more diverse" way.  Not at all in a "My HR department would #### its collective pants if it knew I was saying this out loud in front of hundreds of people" way, which was the chef's kiss aspect of this episode.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
On a closely-related note, I attended a conference for academic deans a couple of months ago, and one of the sessions I attended dealt with "inclusive" hiring practices.  (Sessions on this sort of topic are always way more entertaining than sessions on assessment).  One of the presenters was the dean of a college that included a physics department.  She explained that the department ran a search for a faculty position, and all four of the proposed finalists -- who would get on-campus interviews -- happened to be men.  The dean insisted that the department keep going down their list to find a woman to bring in.  Well, it turned out that none of the qualified applicants were women.  So the dean told the department to reach out to their colleagues around the country and drum up some women applicants.  They still couldn't find any.  So then the dean cancelled the search, and told the department that if they wanted to keep the position, they would have to hire in a different sub-field that included more women.  The department complied, and not surprisingly made sure to hire a woman because faculty aren't stupid.

This was all presented in a "Here's how you should creatively approach the hiring process to make your faculty more diverse" way.  Not at all in a "My HR department would #### its collective pants if it knew I was saying this out loud in front of hundreds of people" way, which was the chef's kiss aspect of this episode.
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Diversity needs to start earlier. According to this article , at MIT, 35% of undergrad math majors are women, but only 18% of graduate students in math are women. I remember reading an article 10 years ago that it was easier for women to get into MIT, but those women who attended MIT did just as well as the men, indicating indirectly a cultural effect, and not that the women were not as good. There's a lot of literature on the gender gap and culture in STEM starting at an early age. I think it's a little bit of nature and a lot of nurture.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
Oh, good. There's something called "white empiricism," which is "the phenomenon through which only white people (particularly white men) are read has having a fundamental capacity for objectivity and Black people (particularly Black women) are produced as an ontological other."

It turns out that white empiricism undermines Einstein's theory of General Relativity because if all frames of reference are equally competent, as Einstein's theory maintains, then why are there so few female African-American physicists? Checkmate, scientists!
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That is the worst thing i have ever read. I used to like you. 

Eta:and i am not saying that because i think you agree with it. I am saying it because you posted it and i read it. I should probably own my actions and take responsibility for not stopping, but i would rather blame you. 

 
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Maurile Tremblay said:
Oh, good. There's something called "white empiricism," which is "the phenomenon through which only white people (particularly white men) are read has having a fundamental capacity for objectivity and Black people (particularly Black women) are produced as an ontological other."

It turns out that white empiricism undermines Einstein's theory of General Relativity because if all frames of reference are equally competent, as Einstein's theory maintains, then why are there so few female African-American physicists? Checkmate, scientists!
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I would be fine with reading this if its author were "Ph.D candidate in Sociology with an emphasis on Race, Class, and Gender studies."  

Physics department makes me think she's an alien planted here, intent on disrupting society.

Of course, that's probably ridiculous.  OR IS IT?!?

 
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