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[BigSteelThrill]

can someone who knows FF explain to me why kid n play are down on addai

That was the most glaring and noteworthy thing in the show. They were heavily down on Addai. And to think I was thinking of targeting him for pick #5.

Addai is not built to be an everydown, all-game feature back. He's been part of a committee for his entire career. He's a fine a late first round pick, but taking him ahead of guys like Henry, Parker, Gore, Alexander, Larry Johnson (now that it looks like he'll sign) is reaching imo. All of those guys have proven they can hold up while being the bell cow. Addai is also not the most ideal short yardage runner. Manning called his own number at the goal line almost as often as Addai scored from inside the five last year. If I'm picking an RB in the top half of the first, he better be the first option when the team gets within striking distance.

This is where the FBGs rubber will meet the road this year.

On TV and strongly advising this is. Having Addai ranked #12 and still telling people to pass on him at that point.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

can someone who knows FF explain to me why kid n play are down on addai

That was the most glaring and noteworthy thing in the show. They were heavily down on Addai. And to think I was thinking of targeting him for pick #5.

Addai is not built to be an everydown, all-game feature back. He's been part of a committee for his entire career. He's a fine a late first round pick, but taking him ahead of guys like Henry, Parker, Gore, Alexander, Larry Johnson (now that it looks like he'll sign) is reaching imo. All of those guys have proven they can hold up while being the bell cow. Addai is also not the most ideal short yardage runner. Manning called his own number at the goal line almost as often as Addai scored from inside the five last year. If I'm picking an RB in the top half of the first, he better be the first option when the team gets within striking distance.

This is where the FBGs rubber will meet the road this year.

On TV and strongly advising this is. Having Addai ranked #12 and still telling people to pass on him at that point.

I see TV saying stay away. I see rankings on FBG's from #19 to #3 for running backs. Both of those numbers make me go huh. Still, after those numbers are averaged he's listed ahead of Henry.What I think is being overlooked is this: He is the man in Indy. Indy backs usually do very well and he showed it last year in the playoffs. I see the upside being way higher than the downside.

This one will be a player to watch all year.

 

[joey]

I see TV saying stay away. I see rankings on FBG's from #19 to #3 for running backs. Both of those numbers make me go huh. Still, after those numbers are averaged he's listed ahead of Henry.What I think is being overlooked is this: He is the man in Indy. Indy backs usually do very well and he showed it last year in the playoffs. I see the upside being way higher than the downside.This one will be a player to watch all year.

And if you average the 5 FBG's who have projections on the site, he's ranked 6.4. (trying not to give away too much about the subscriber content)Not all FBGs think alike but it's interesting how the Addai point is made so prominentlyin the 5 Minute Drill while *most* of the FBGs seem to be high on him.Interesting...

 

[joey]

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you inspired me...http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3416/lolfbgsli1.jpg

 

[QuizGuy66]

You guys adding any interactive features. Any fan polls you do from the show should have a Smoo option

'grats.

-QG

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I see TV saying stay away. I see rankings on FBG's from #19 to #3 for running backs. Both of those numbers make me go huh. Still, after those numbers are averaged he's listed ahead of Henry.

What I think is being overlooked is this: He is the man in Indy. Indy backs usually do very well and he showed it last year in the playoffs. I see the upside being way higher than the downside.

This one will be a player to watch all year.

And if you average the 5 FBG's who have projections on the site, he's ranked 6.4. (trying not to give away too much about the subscriber content)

At that point you can always go back and say well some said this and some said that so dont dont take too much stock in what they present.Had they listed him at #6 then this would be a totaly different discussion. But that wasnt what they presented.

And we cant hedge our picks at the draft unfortunatley.

What they presented was in a very strong manner. i.e. "you dont take him in your draft" while he is at #12 on their rankings.

Bold bold bold. The kind of bold that makes or breaks a team. Certainly the player to watch from FBG TV.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

That's what is so confusing. The TV clip basically said Addai was death knell for anyone who selected him. Pretty strong words for a player that arguably could go either way.

 

[joey]

I see TV saying stay away. I see rankings on FBG's from #19 to #3 for running backs. Both of those numbers make me go huh. Still, after those numbers are averaged he's listed ahead of Henry.

What I think is being overlooked is this: He is the man in Indy. Indy backs usually do very well and he showed it last year in the playoffs. I see the upside being way higher than the downside.

This one will be a player to watch all year.

And if you average the 5 FBG's who have projections on the site, he's ranked 6.4. (trying not to give away too much about the subscriber content)

At that point you can always go back and say well some said this and some said that so dont dont take too much stock in what they present.Had they listed him at #6 then this would be a totaly different discussion. But that wasnt what they presented.

And we cant hedge our picks at the draft unfortunatley.

What they presented was in a very strong manner. i.e. "you dont take him in your draft" while he is at #12 on their rankings.

Bold bold bold. The kind of bold that makes or breaks a team. Certainly the player to watch from FBG TV.

Exactly. and what I'm saying is that their take on Addai seems to be in the minority of what the rest of the staff FBG's seem to think.Strange (or interesting) that the strongest point they made in the show was not really in line with what most of the FBG's think.

I'm not saying that "group think" should win out, but if this is a vehicle to advertise the FBG web stie, when folks come here

and buy a subscription but then see Addai ranked high, I think many will be scratching their heads. Just my 2 cents worth...

 

[Mr.Pack]

awesome graphics and presentation

Thanks to Footballguy Marc Faletti for securing the deal with On Networks, plunging his hard earned cash into getting the right camera, software, etc to make this happen. He is the brains behind the Five Minute Drill. He is the cameraman, producer, editor and key grip. He hasn't slept for days to make all of this possible. Thanks also to Footballguys Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom whose tireless work continue to deliver the best takes in football.This is a landmark day for us and believe it's just the beginning of something special going on within our company.We thank all of you for continuing to listen to the Audible and for watching the Five Minute Drill and helping Footballguys get the word out about the game we are so passionate about.

Congrats!Also, it's extremely well done. Great job to everyone involved!

 

[Joe T]

can someone who knows FF explain to me why kid n play are down on addai

That was the most glaring and noteworthy thing in the show. They were heavily down on Addai. And to think I was thinking of targeting him for pick #5.

Addai is not built to be an everydown, all-game feature back. He's been part of a committee for his entire career. He's a fine a late first round pick, but taking him ahead of guys like Henry, Parker, Gore, Alexander, Larry Johnson (now that it looks like he'll sign) is reaching imo. All of those guys have proven they can hold up while being the bell cow. Addai is also not the most ideal short yardage runner. Manning called his own number at the goal line almost as often as Addai scored from inside the five last year. If I'm picking an RB in the top half of the first, he better be the first option when the team gets within striking distance.

How is that any different that Law Maroney?Maroney has never carried the load. And he is not near the receiver Addai is.I agree Addai is too high at 5, but I like him a whole lot better than Maroney who has "been part of committee for his entire career" and has been hurt more and catches less balls.

 

[John Mamula]

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you inspired me...http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3416/lolfbgsli1.jpg

:(

 

[John Mamula]

I see TV saying stay away. I see rankings on FBG's from #19 to #3 for running backs. Both of those numbers make me go huh. Still, after those numbers are averaged he's listed ahead of Henry.

What I think is being overlooked is this: He is the man in Indy. Indy backs usually do very well and he showed it last year in the playoffs. I see the upside being way higher than the downside.

This one will be a player to watch all year.

And if you average the 5 FBG's who have projections on the site, he's ranked 6.4. (trying not to give away too much about the subscriber content)

At that point you can always go back and say well some said this and some said that so dont dont take too much stock in what they present.Had they listed him at #6 then this would be a totaly different discussion. But that wasnt what they presented.

And we cant hedge our picks at the draft unfortunatley.

What they presented was in a very strong manner. i.e. "you dont take him in your draft" while he is at #12 on their rankings.

Bold bold bold. The kind of bold that makes or breaks a team. Certainly the player to watch from FBG TV.

Exactly. and what I'm saying is that their take on Addai seems to be in the minority of what the rest of the staff FBG's seem to think.Strange (or interesting) that the strongest point they made in the show was not really in line with what most of the FBG's think.

I'm not saying that "group think" should win out, but if this is a vehicle to advertise the FBG web stie, when folks come here

and buy a subscription but then see Addai ranked high, I think many will be scratching their heads. Just my 2 cents worth...

 

[Marc Faletti]

I see TV saying stay away. I see rankings on FBG's from #19 to #3 for running backs. Both of those numbers make me go huh. Still, after those numbers are averaged he's listed ahead of Henry.

What I think is being overlooked is this: He is the man in Indy. Indy backs usually do very well and he showed it last year in the playoffs. I see the upside being way higher than the downside.

This one will be a player to watch all year.

And if you average the 5 FBG's who have projections on the site, he's ranked 6.4. (trying not to give away too much about the subscriber content)

At that point you can always go back and say well some said this and some said that so dont dont take too much stock in what they present.Had they listed him at #6 then this would be a totaly different discussion. But that wasnt what they presented.

And we cant hedge our picks at the draft unfortunatley.

What they presented was in a very strong manner. i.e. "you dont take him in your draft" while he is at #12 on their rankings.

Bold bold bold. The kind of bold that makes or breaks a team. Certainly the player to watch from FBG TV.

Exactly. and what I'm saying is that their take on Addai seems to be in the minority of what the rest of the staff FBG's seem to think.Strange (or interesting) that the strongest point they made in the show was not really in line with what most of the FBG's think.

I'm not saying that "group think" should win out, but if this is a vehicle to advertise the FBG web stie, when folks come here

and buy a subscription but then see Addai ranked high, I think many will be scratching their heads. Just my 2 cents worth...

Hey everyone! Just to be clear, The Drill represents the views of Cecil, Sig, and myself. We're giving our takes on these players, and sometimes that'll fall in line with consensus FBG thinking and sometimes it won't. That's the beauty of all the info here at FBG -- like all the differing staff rankings and such, it'll be up to you to decide what you agree with and what you don't. On Addai specifically, we have a stance of this: he's going too early. It's not that we think he's terrible, but he does have risk and is unproven in this role. If he was going around at the top of the second or even end of the first, he's much easier to justify. But #6 ADP? He'll only match that if everything breaks right, and we don't like it when players would have trouble outperforming their ADP even if everything goes their way. We said to "stay away" because it's a virtual lock he won't be there at the point we think he "should" go, and we don't believe you should take him early in the first.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I see TV saying stay away. I see rankings on FBG's from #19 to #3 for running backs. Both of those numbers make me go huh. Still, after those numbers are averaged he's listed ahead of Henry.

What I think is being overlooked is this: He is the man in Indy. Indy backs usually do very well and he showed it last year in the playoffs. I see the upside being way higher than the downside.

This one will be a player to watch all year.

And if you average the 5 FBG's who have projections on the site, he's ranked 6.4. (trying not to give away too much about the subscriber content)

At that point you can always go back and say well some said this and some said that so dont dont take too much stock in what they present.Had they listed him at #6 then this would be a totaly different discussion. But that wasnt what they presented.

And we cant hedge our picks at the draft unfortunatley.

What they presented was in a very strong manner. i.e. "you dont take him in your draft" while he is at #12 on their rankings.

Bold bold bold. The kind of bold that makes or breaks a team. Certainly the player to watch from FBG TV.

Exactly. and what I'm saying is that their take on Addai seems to be in the minority of what the rest of the staff FBG's seem to think.Strange (or interesting) that the strongest point they made in the show was not really in line with what most of the FBG's think.

I'm not saying that "group think" should win out, but if this is a vehicle to advertise the FBG web stie, when folks come here

and buy a subscription but then see Addai ranked high, I think many will be scratching their heads. Just my 2 cents worth...

Hey everyone! Just to be clear, The Drill represents the views of Cecil, Sig, and myself. We're giving our takes on these players, and sometimes that'll fall in line with consensus FBG thinking and sometimes it won't. That's the beauty of all the info here at FBG -- like all the differing staff rankings and such, it'll be up to you to decide what you agree with and what you don't. On Addai specifically, we have a stance of this: he's going too early. It's not that we think he's terrible, but he does have risk and is unproven in this role. If he was going around at the top of the second or even end of the first, he's much easier to justify. But #6 ADP? He'll only match that if everything breaks right, and we don't like it when players would have trouble outperforming their ADP even if everything goes their way. We said to "stay away" because it's a virtual lock he won't be there at the point we think he "should" go, and we don't believe you should take him early in the first.

The top 300 has Addai at #5 and he's not listed as RED.I appreciate and understand your reasoning, but it is flying counter to the rankings and group think on this site which is what we all are saying.

 

[Marc Faletti]

I appreciate and understand your reasoning, but it is flying counter to the rankings and group think on this site which is what we all are saying.

Yep! And we'll probably do that regularly. That's one of the many great thing about Footballguys -- though you can see what the "group think" is, we're all free to have our own opinions/rankings/etc. I'm sure if Wood was making his show for ON Networks, he'd talk about why he has Ronnie Brown at #8. We gave our opinions, and you're free to take in all in and sort it out for yourself! But definitely don't confuse our show for "the official show of FBG consensus rankings."

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I appreciate and understand your reasoning, but it is flying counter to the rankings and group think on this site which is what we all are saying.

Yep! And we'll probably do that regularly. That's one of the many great thing about Footballguys -- though you can see what the "group think" is, we're all free to have our own opinions/rankings/etc. I'm sure if Wood was making his show for ON Networks, he'd talk about why he has Ronnie Brown at #8. We gave our opinions, and you're free to take in all in and sort it out for yourself! But definitely don't confuse our show for "the official show of FBG consensus rankings."

That's fair and it's going to make for a good show and great discussion on the board. If we all thought the same there wouldn't be anything to discuss.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Here's an email I just got from Adam Schefter:

RE: The 5 Minute Drill debut‏

From: Schefter, Adam

Sent: Wed 8/15/07 3:13 PM

To: Cecil Lammey

Cecil:

Appreciate the shout out. Nice work! Were you reading from a prompter? Because there were no noticeable verbal flubs, so great work there. And I thought you were very good. Now it's just a question of doing it more and more. But you sounded like you -- which is the key. And what's with you and Javon wearing the mohawks? You guys got the same haircutters or what? Keep up the good work.

Regards,

Adam

the bolded part made me

Schefter = THE MAN

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Here's an email I just got from Adam Schefter:

RE: The 5 Minute Drill debut‏

From: Schefter, Adam

Sent: Wed 8/15/07 3:13 PM

To: Cecil Lammey

Cecil:

Appreciate the shout out. Nice work! Were you reading from a prompter? Because there were no noticeable verbal flubs, so great work there. And I thought you were very good. Now it's just a question of doing it more and more. But you sounded like you -- which is the key. And what's with you and Javon wearing the mohawks? You guys got the same haircutters or what? Keep up the good work.

Regards,

Adam

the bolded part made me

Schefter = THE MAN

 

[Bonzai]

just checked this out.

i wasn't really expecting a lot, but that was pretty damn good.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I see TV saying stay away. I see rankings on FBG's from #19 to #3 for running backs. Both of those numbers make me go huh. Still, after those numbers are averaged he's listed ahead of Henry.

What I think is being overlooked is this: He is the man in Indy. Indy backs usually do very well and he showed it last year in the playoffs. I see the upside being way higher than the downside.

This one will be a player to watch all year.

And if you average the 5 FBG's who have projections on the site, he's ranked 6.4. (trying not to give away too much about the subscriber content)

At that point you can always go back and say well some said this and some said that so dont dont take too much stock in what they present.Had they listed him at #6 then this would be a totaly different discussion. But that wasnt what they presented.

And we cant hedge our picks at the draft unfortunatley.

What they presented was in a very strong manner. i.e. "you dont take him in your draft" while he is at #12 on their rankings.

Bold bold bold. The kind of bold that makes or breaks a team. Certainly the player to watch from FBG TV.

Exactly. and what I'm saying is that their take on Addai seems to be in the minority of what the rest of the staff FBG's seem to think.Strange (or interesting) that the strongest point they made in the show was not really in line with what most of the FBG's think.

I'm not saying that "group think" should win out, but if this is a vehicle to advertise the FBG web stie, when folks come here

and buy a subscription but then see Addai ranked high, I think many will be scratching their heads. Just my 2 cents worth...

Hey everyone! Just to be clear, The Drill represents the views of Cecil, Sig, and myself. We're giving our takes on these players, and sometimes that'll fall in line with consensus FBG thinking and sometimes it won't. That's the beauty of all the info here at FBG -- like all the differing staff rankings and such, it'll be up to you to decide what you agree with and what you don't. On Addai specifically, we have a stance of this: he's going too early. It's not that we think he's terrible, but he does have risk and is unproven in this role. If he was going around at the top of the second or even end of the first, he's much easier to justify. But #6 ADP? He'll only match that if everything breaks right, and we don't like it when players would have trouble outperforming their ADP even if everything goes their way. We said to "stay away" because it's a virtual lock he won't be there at the point we think he "should" go, and we don't believe you should take him early in the first.

What Marc said.The beauty (and the curse) of having a bunch of guys doing rankings and projections is that you get differing opinions. It's a reason we've always tried to do more than just rankings and try and offer backup behind why we think a player will do this or that. Our Player Spotlights and Face Offs are good examples of this. Marc, Cecil and Sigmund even amongst those three won't always agree on every player. And what they come up with will sometimes not be in line with what David and I have for the "official" FBG stance on a player. But we've found that the people reading like different opinions. This message board is proof of that. It's all good.

J

 

[McBokonon]

Cecil and MC Serch must have been separated at birth.

Gas face

"With the question marks surrounding the Chiefs' O-Line and the uncertain contract situation, I'm afraid to say that, right now, LJ gets the gas face!"I smell new video schtick! :hyper:

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Just wanted to add kudos and say that I think that Cec and Sig perfectly represent Footballguys and what it means to be a Footballguy. As a long time member, that's important. The presentation and graphics are one thing, but you two are so obviously passionate about what you are doing that it makes me proud to say I'm a member here to someone who sees that video.

 

[RenegadeGM]

Count me in as someone else who didn't know what to expect when clicking on the link and being pleasantly surprised on how good it was. Being as I've recently got into The Audible, I realized I shouldn't have been so leery in the first place.

Props to Marc, Cecil and Sigmund on a job well done.

Next step: the FBG Movie! If The Simpsons can do it, why not?

 

[The Kansas Comet]

I'll never be able to listen to the Audible the same way again. I was tuned in while driving around town today and I couldn't help but see Cecil's do in my mind as I was listening. Damn.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Just wanted to add kudos and say that I think that Cec and Sig perfectly represent Footballguys and what it means to be a Footballguy. As a long time member, that's important. The presentation and graphics are one thing, but you two are so obviously passionate about what you are doing that it makes me proud to say I'm a member here to someone who sees that video.

Thank you CB. That's exactly what I think too and why I'm so proud of these guys. J

 

[Team Legacy]

Very nice work gang! Taking FBG to the next level!

 

[Marc Faletti]

Count me in as someone else who didn't know what to expect when clicking on the link and being pleasantly surprised on how good it was. Being as I've recently got into The Audible, I realized I shouldn't have been so leery in the first place.Props to Marc, Cecil and Sigmund on a job well done. Next step: the FBG Movie! If The Simpsons can do it, why not?

In a land before time...When everything you know is wrong...Only two men will stand between humanity's destiny and total destruction."Eeeee! Brandon Marshall!"Coming soon to a theater near you.

 

[Marc Faletti]

So next week we cover WRs -- anyone have any requests as to the type of additional info to show on the right beside the the hosts? Would you wanna see fantasy playoff schedules? Last year's numbers? Any input is welcome...

 

[ConstruxBoy]

So next week we cover WRs -- anyone have any requests as to the type of additional info to show on the right beside the the hosts? Would you wanna see fantasy playoff schedules? Last year's numbers? Any input is welcome...

Maybe something unique like Targets or Catch Percentage? That would be info that I imagine most fantasy football players don't routinely see or consider when evaluating Wide Receivers.

 

[Marc Faletti]

So next week we cover WRs -- anyone have any requests as to the type of additional info to show on the right beside the the hosts? Would you wanna see fantasy playoff schedules? Last year's numbers? Any input is welcome...

Maybe something unique like Targets or Catch Percentage? That would be info that I imagine most fantasy football players don't routinely see or consider when evaluating Wide Receivers.

Good call. Both numbers are interesting and helpful. We'll see what we can do!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

So next week we cover WRs -- anyone have any requests as to the type of additional info to show on the right beside the the hosts? Would you wanna see fantasy playoff schedules? Last year's numbers? Any input is welcome...

Maybe something unique like Targets or Catch Percentage? That would be info that I imagine most fantasy football players don't routinely see or consider when evaluating Wide Receivers.

Good call. Both numbers are interesting and helpful. We'll see what we can do!

Marc,Two other stats that are rarely mentioned but a major factor are Yards Per Catch and Yards Per Target. Both matter quite a bit (and scale somewhat to catch %age for those with larger YPC).

 

[bonscott]

FYI that the RSS feed still doesn't have the video file attached. You'll get a lot more viewers once you get that fixed.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

can someone who knows FF explain to me why kid n play are down on addai

That was the most glaring and noteworthy thing in the show. They were heavily down on Addai. And to think I was thinking of targeting him for pick #5.

Addai is not built to be an everydown, all-game feature back. He's been part of a committee for his entire career. He's a fine a late first round pick, but taking him ahead of guys like Henry, Parker, Gore, Alexander, Larry Johnson (now that it looks like he'll sign) is reaching imo. All of those guys have proven they can hold up while being the bell cow. Addai is also not the most ideal short yardage runner. Manning called his own number at the goal line almost as often as Addai scored from inside the five last year. If I'm picking an RB in the top half of the first, he better be the first option when the team gets within striking distance.

This is where the FBGs rubber will meet the road this year.

On TV and strongly advising this is. Having Addai ranked #12 and still telling people to pass on him at that point.

Week 1 - check.J. Addai

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