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Frank Gore - still in the NFL at 65. (1 Viewer)
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higgins
Footballguy
I look at it totally the opposite way -- how can anyone think they're going to draft a high profile RB now? This is not ff when you need a stallion RB -- if anything Kelly devalues the RB position according to ex-Eagles OL Herremans ("I think he values the quarterback position in his offense the most. Quarterback and offensive line. I think other than that, I think that he feels like he can kind of, you know, the system will take care of it.").How is anyone not seeing this as the likely outcome/purpose here? Gore and Sproles split the work, groom the incumbent drafted RB. All at a fraction of the Shady price.
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They felt they needed extra RB depth and Gore's style and experience made him ideal -- nothing else to see here. With as much as they need help at other positions I'd be shocked if they drafted a RB in the top 2 rounds (or top 4 rounds if they move picks for MM). Again. how can anyone think they're going to draft a high profile RB? This isn't ff.
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Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
I agree. It looks to me like they are continuing to do what they can to set up for Mariota. Clear room by moving one of the biggest RB contracts in the league. Bring in seasoned RB who is going to be great at pass protection. If they do land Mariota it'll cost whatever picks they might have otherwise had available for a high value RB in the draft. If they can't trade up to get Mariota then it's plan B but I think they still are shooting for that.I look at it totally the opposite way -- how can anyone think they're going to draft a high profile RB now? This is not ff when you need a stallion RB -- if anything Kelly devalues the RB position according to ex-Eagles OL Herremans ("I think he values the quarterback position in his offense the most. Quarterback and offensive line. I think other than that, I think that he feels like he can kind of, you know, the system will take care of it.").How is anyone not seeing this as the likely outcome/purpose here? Gore and Sproles split the work, groom the incumbent drafted RB. All at a fraction of the Shady price.
They felt they needed extra RB depth and Gore's style and experience made him ideal -- nothing else to see here. With as much as they need help at other positions I'd be shocked if they drafted a RB in the top 2 rounds (or top 4 rounds if they move picks for MM). Again. how can anyone think they're going to draft a high profile RB? This isn't ff.
VibeBox
Footballguy
lol, ok
they had the most lopsided roster in the league paying waaaaaaay to much to offense and the cupboard were bare on defense.
andy went on to head up this godawful chiefs team that jamaal charles is dragging into looking like a real team.
gurley won't be there in round 2, and ajayi isn't ready to be the guy year one and also wont be there in the late second.
i was really hoping for ameeh abdullah. vastly underrated and would be spectacular behind this line.
with the chatter about interest in a foles for kaepernick trade i can see gore/kaep's good mesh point rapport being productive behind this great oline, but it's going to be an overpay on both counts
Rookie_Whisperer
Footballguy
I don't think his trade value in dynasty has really spiked to anything more than a mid 2nd. As a Gore owner in a couple of places, I'm more likely to hold onto him, hope for some RB2 or 3 production, and take a another swing at a championship rather than ship him off for a low percentage lotto pick with little chance of production. Now if someone offers me a 1st or very early 2nd, I probably bite since I have some depth at RB, but I still don't think anyone will do that due to age concerns. But you are right, if someone is just looking to freshen up a roster without concern for real production, now is the time.
dcgangstas
Footballguy
If the Eagles trade up for Mariota, they won't have a 2nd round pick this year to select those guys. Both should be gone in the early 2nd round, in any event.
We haven't seen the contract yet, but it's certainly going to be much less than McCoy- some might even say, a fraction.Its not at a fraction of Shady price. Ingram was had at a fraction of Shady price.How is anyone not seeing this as the likely outcome/purpose here? Gore and Sproles split the work, groom the incumbent drafted RB. All at a fraction of the Shady price.
Spike
Footballguy
IgglesFan
Footballguy
I don't think anyone was down on McCoy because of his age. People were down on him because of his ridiculous contract...so much so that had someone not been dumb enough to take him, he would have been cut.
Spike
Footballguy
With all the talk of Mariota needing time to learn how to be a QB in the NFL mold (learning progressions, taking the ball under center, etc), would the Eagles make moves such as picking up Gore if they were going to trade for a QB who might need a couple years to come up to speed?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
MM won't need a couple of years to get up to speed in Chip's offense. That's the reason he's more valuable to the Eagles than any other team.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Todem
Footballguy
Gore is a baller. He will be fine. Question is who is going to toss the rock and lead the team.Solid fantasy RB2, and im not the biggest fan of the signing, but he'll be ok.
jtd13
Footballguy
Didn't he run for over 300 yards in the 2 games to end the season?
I got Gore as a throw in with a situation like this in mind. Happy to ride him like I rode the cheap pair FJax and Stewie last year.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
I think if he got half of that it would be about my expectation. I dont have a horse in this race - just casual observer. You expect those kind of numbers at age 32? Would probably be the best season ever for a RB that age. Additionally, this is a 3 year deal with a 32 year old RB with the first 2 years guaranteed at a pretty high number.Soulfly3 said:
Eventually, every RB gets old, no matter how great of a warrior they were. Usually its before age 32.
jurb26
Footballguy
Not only that but the declin is usually very abrupt.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
The thing about Gore is that we've been hearing this every year since, literally, 2010. Eventually it will be correct, but every year for almost half a decade the smart move has been to buy Gore at cheap prices. Further, we're now to a point where even when it finally does end up backfiring it will be at such a minimal cost that it doesn't really matter. I can't imagine Gore is going for more than a mid/late 2nd at this point.Bruce Hammond said:
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Eagles led the league with 950 snaps from shotgun formation. Gore's YPC out of the the shotgun last season was 5.0.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
I do.
Gore is not a run of the mill type RB... He's literally a mule. Power, grace and straight up dedication...
Yes, he will fall off eventually... But I dont see it happening this year or next. He's got plenty in the tank on a high flying offense that suits his style of running.. oh, and that run block in PHI... WOOF!
guy has super vision on the field... and in my eyes, a very strong contender for HOF... May not get it, but he's definitely close to deserving it.
Just think he breaks some molds this season
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Bettis opened the door for run of the mill RB's who play a long time getting in, so Gore getting in isn't that ridiculous.Gore isn't close to HOF worthy.
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Soulfly3
Footballguy
bingo.Bettis opened the door for run of the mill RB's who play a long time getting in, so Gore getting in isn't that ridiculous.Gore isn't close to HOF worthy.
and what is so far fetched about ihm being in the convo? I made it pretty clear he is by no means a shoe-in.. and may never get in... but he definitely deserves to be mentioned as a possiblity
Hang 10
Footballguy
Probably true. He is a better player than Bettis ever was but unfortunately for him he never had a cool nickname or play for the squealers.Bettis opened the door for run of the mill RB's who play a long time getting in, so Gore getting in isn't that ridiculous.Gore isn't close to HOF worthy.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
He isn't going to play... As Stephen A Smith so eloquently pointed out, Chip is a racist. Lets shut this one down fellas.
Insein
Footballguy
I think a reasonable expectation would be to see decreased totals due to usage but I think his effectiveness should stay on par. He averages 4.5 ypc for his career with 4.7, 4.1 & 4.3 in the last 3 years. If he gets 200 carries, that's still 900 yards. So if he gets in the 210-225 range for carries (a low only reached in 05, & 10 his rookie and injury years), he should still reach that 1000 yd plateau. His TD totals were down last year during the trainwreck season but he had been averaging 7 a season pretty consistently except for 05 & 10 again.
Its reasonable with how Kelly wants the offense to run that he can get 1000 yds and 7 TDs again. That's RB3, low end RB2 nowadays but still productive.
Its reasonable with how Kelly wants the offense to run that he can get 1000 yds and 7 TDs again. That's RB3, low end RB2 nowadays but still productive.
cstu
Footballguy
Gore is only 3000 yards behind Curtis Martin and has a relatively low number of carries for his age (2442). Think he could play for a few more seasons and pass Martin to end up 4th all-time in yards (750 carries @ 4 YPC). Like Martin it would be tough to keep him out of the HOF if he does that.
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Tau837
Footballguy
Bettis was 1st team All Pro twice. Gore has never been 1st team All Pro. There is a more to it than that, but that is a good shorthand for why Bettis's resume was better.bingo.Bettis opened the door for run of the mill RB's who play a long time getting in, so Gore getting in isn't that ridiculous.Gore isn't close to HOF worthy.
and what is so far fetched about ihm being in the convo? I made it pretty clear he is by no means a shoe-in.. and may never get in... but he definitely deserves to be mentioned as a possiblity
Super King
Footballguy
Wonder who threw him more money
Polish Hammer
made of glass
Saw a tweet saying maybe Colts.
Check out @RapSheet's Tweet: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/575067257421848576?s=09
Check out @RapSheet's Tweet: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/575067257421848576?s=09
Insein
Footballguy
I agree. In that offense they will basically use every last ounce of football he has. 250 carries is definitely possible there.
12punch
Footballguy
probably once he realized what a sheet wearing nazi chip was
either that or he heard about the pats deflating footballs from luck
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mquinnjr
Footballguy
Anyone else think the Eagles will end up with a cash hoard and a ton of cap space after not landing their wish list? I feel like this could be the reason for the back out, Gore navigating around what he might perceive as a 
and running to Luck and a shot at a playoff run.
and running to Luck and a shot at a playoff run.
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CalBear
Footballguy
Bettis was famous and Gore isn't.Bettis opened the door for run of the mill RB's who play a long time getting in, so Gore getting in isn't that ridiculous.Gore isn't close to HOF worthy.
Gore also has finished in the top 5 in rushing yardage only once, and never in the top 5 in TDs. His resume isn't anywhere close to Bettis'. Not to mention Bettis still has 2500 yards and 25+ TDs over Gore.
CalBear
Footballguy
"Only" 3000 yards?
Also "only" three top-2 annual finishes in rushing yardage behind Martin (that is, 3 to zero), and three top-5 finishes in rushing TDs (that is, 3 to zero). Gore has been a fine RB but comparing his accomplishments to Martin's is ridiculous.
