Frank Gore? (1 Viewer)

[NinerK]

Looks like Niners are trying to run more this year. A good thing after watching the offense. There have been talks out here about Gore not being able to have more than 20 touches (15 carries, 5-6 rec) per game. This article is interesting though. Can they do it? I don't think so; they will be behind in a lot of games.

Running Plays 60-40

 

[Banger]

Looks like Niners are trying to run more this year. A good thing after watching the offense. There have been talks out here about Gore not being able to have more than 20 touches (15 carries, 5-6 rec) per game. This article is interesting though. Can they do it? I don't think so; they will be behind in a lot of games.

Running Plays 60-40

Doesn't every team want to run the ball 30 times/game and run much more than they pass? Sounds like a good plan but plans quickly change when you're down 3 scores in the 2 qtr of most games. If their defense can keep it close I'd expect them to run the ball a lot but I don't expect their defense to keep games close therefore I don't believe they will run the ball nearly as much as they'd like.

 

[Armando]

Let them go 75-25 and have Gore play about 4 weeks this year.

 

[CrossEyed]

Let them go 75-25 and have Gore play about 4 weeks this year.

Works for me.<------(Michael Robinson owner)

 

[diesel7982]

Weren't the 49ers amongst the league leaders in team rush atts last yera?

 

[wannabee]

Weren't the 49ers amongst the league leaders in team rush atts last yera?

They were 21st in attempts.But, some other stats that make us see how bad that Niner offense was last year:

|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL

CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD

205 389 2190 5.63 8 21 428 1689 3.95 9 3879

NFL rank 32 31 32 31 32 28 21 17 16 25 32

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo2005.htm

Compare this with the Cardinals that threw the ball 670 times (1st in NFL) and ran it only 360 (last in NFL).

 

[skillz]

Looks like Niners are trying to run more this year. A good thing after watching the offense. There have been talks out here about Gore not being able to have more than 20 touches (15 carries, 5-6 rec) per game. This article is interesting though. Can they do it? I don't think so; they will be behind in a lot of games.

Running Plays 60-40

Doesn't every team want to run the ball 30 times/game and run much more than they pass? Sounds like a good plan but plans quickly change when you're down 3 scores in the 2 qtr of most games. If their defense can keep it close I'd expect them to run the ball a lot but I don't expect their defense to keep games close therefore I don't believe they will run the ball nearly as much as they'd like.

Not if the team is coached by Mike Martz. The 49'ers need to run the ball as much as possible since Alex Smith is not going to move that offense down the field this season--Norv Turner or not. However, I don't see their D allowing them to accomplish their goal, particularly when they play the likes of Arizona, St. Louis, and Seattle 2 times per year--all of whom have potent offenses.

 

[diesel7982]

Weren't the 49ers amongst the league leaders in team rush atts last yera?

They were 21st in attempts.But, some other stats that make us see how bad that Niner offense was last year:

|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL

CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD

205 389 2190 5.63 8 21 428 1689 3.95 9 3879

NFL rank 32 31 32 31 32 28 21 17 16 25 32

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo2005.htm

Compare this with the Cardinals that threw the ball 670 times (1st in NFL) and ran it only 360 (last in NFL).

Maybe I was thinking in terms of the ratio of pass att to rush att. I know by some metric they rushed the ball alot last year.

 

[moleculo]

last year SF ran >52% of the time - behind only pittsburgh, Denver, and Atlanta in terms of play selection. The league average is almost 47%.

Pittsburgh ran 58% of the time, and is the only team in the past decade to run 60%.

 

[phillzphan]

Nowhere in here does it talk about who exactly is running the ball. Of course, Gore is the touted #1 and most talented back. But...he might be splitting a lot of time. Of course, with his durability issues and the number of touches that 60% means for the RBs, we can't expect Gore to get all of these.

Question is, who else will get them and how many will they get...

 

[Boone22]

Nowhere in here does it talk about who exactly is running the ball. Of course, Gore is the touted #1 and most talented back. But...he might be splitting a lot of time. Of course, with his durability issues and the number of touches that 60% means for the RBs, we can't expect Gore to get all of these.

Question is, who else will get them and how many will they get...

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[nygiants56]

In Norv Turner we trust...Gore is going to do surprisingly well in SF this year..

 

[GoinDeep]

GORE, GORE, GOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!!

 

[delusional]

and people laughed and giggled when i took gore in the 9th on my draft back on august 11th

 

[GDogg]

Actually, if your defense is terrible, the best strategy to begin with is to run the crap out of the ball. This will limit the number of plays, and keep your defense off the field.

Basic Football 101.

Now, if you can't run the ball, then you have a big problem. You'll have to throw the ball, and if that isn't working, well...

But, sound football strategy suggests that when your defense is bad, you'd like to keep them off the field as much as possible. Throwing the football won't accomplish this goal. Gore should get plenty of touches to at least start the game, and if they are successful and able to score, then they'll continue with it, even if the Cardinals are scoring.

 

[(HULK)]

I'm too lazy to do it, but could somebody drum up a list of the RBs under Norv Turner?

I remember it being pretty damn formidible.

 

[redman]

I'm too lazy to do it, but could somebody drum up a list of the RBs under Norv Turner?I remember it being pretty damn formidible.

Dating back to the Cowboys in hte early 90's:Emmit SmithTerry AllenStephen DavisLTRicky WilliamsLamont Jordan

 

[nightshift]

They want to win too, but I seriously doubt they'll do that 60%.

If you are not winning, chances are you'll be passing to catch up.

 

[(HULK)]

I'm too lazy to do it, but could somebody drum up a list of the RBs under Norv Turner?I remember it being pretty damn formidible.

Dating back to the Cowboys in hte early 90's:Emmit SmithTerry AllenStephen DavisLTRicky WilliamsLamont Jordan

Thanks.I think he's a lock to be a top 24 RB (RB2) with top 10 upside.

 

[Otis]

I'm too lazy to do it, but could somebody drum up a list of the RBs under Norv Turner?I remember it being pretty damn formidible.

Dating back to the Cowboys in hte early 90's:Emmit SmithTerry AllenStephen DavisLTRicky WilliamsLamont Jordan

Thanks.I think he's a lock to be a top 24 RB (RB2) with top 10 upside.

 

[5Rings]

They want to win too, but I seriously doubt they'll do that 60%.If you are not winning, chances are you'll be passing to catch up.

Nolan actually had them running while behind last year. He did not have McCarthy abandon the gameplan.It will be curious to see what happens this year with Smith's (hopeful) maturation and better receiving targets when SF is behind....unfortunately I think we'll find out real quick.

 

[diesel7982]

last year SF ran >52% of the time - behind only pittsburgh, Denver, and Atlanta in terms of play selection. The league average is almost 47%.Pittsburgh ran 58% of the time, and is the only team in the past decade to run 60%.

Thanks.

 

[TheFanatic]

Looks like Niners are trying to run more this year. A good thing after watching the offense. There have been talks out here about Gore not being able to have more than 20 touches (15 carries, 5-6 rec) per game. This article is interesting though. Can they do it? I don't think so; they will be behind in a lot of games.

Running Plays 60-40

Doesn't every team want to run the ball 30 times/game and run much more than they pass? Sounds like a good plan but plans quickly change when you're down 3 scores in the 2 qtr of most games. If their defense can keep it close I'd expect them to run the ball a lot but I don't expect their defense to keep games close therefore I don't believe they will run the ball nearly as much as they'd like.

Not if the team is coached by Mike Martz. The 49'ers need to run the ball as much as possible since Alex Smith is not going to move that offense down the field this season--Norv Turner or not. However, I don't see their D allowing them to accomplish their goal, particularly when they play the likes of Arizona, St. Louis, and Seattle 2 times per year--all of whom have potent offenses.

That actually might work in favor of running the ball. Those potent offenses can't score if the Niners are grinding out the clock on the ground while the offenses watch from the sideline....

 

[Ray]

I'm too lazy to do it, but could somebody drum up a list of the RBs under Norv Turner?I remember it being pretty damn formidible.

Here's the list i made back in 2002...iirc, he was the Rams "passing coordinator" so not 100% relevant, but shows his roots (Robinson)1985 1234 12 20 126 0 Dickerson1986 1821 11 26 205 0 Dickerson1987 1651 12 36 254 0 Dickerson/White1988 1212 16 24 124 2 Bell1989 1137 15 19 85 0 Bell1990 972 15 31 157 1 Bell/Gary1991 1563 12 49 258 1 Emmitt1992 1713 18 59 335 1 Emmitt1993 1486 9 57 414 1 Emmitt1994 947 5 64 361 1 Ervins/Brooks1995 1309 10 31 232 1 Allen1996 1353 21 32 194 0 Allen1997 1291 7 38 306 1 Allen/Davis1998 1133 10 21 132 0 Allen/Hicks1999 1405 17 23 111 0 S.Davis2000 1318 11 33 313 0 S.Davis2001 1236 10 59 367 0 LaDainian