Englishteacher
Footballguy
I'm curious who everyone thinks offers more to a NFL team at this point. In other words, who's the better FA sign? This is NFL now, not fantasy.
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Free Agent RB Showdown: Shaun Alexander vs. Kevin Jones (1 Viewer)
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
One of them can't stay healthy and may have an attitude problem.
One of them can't stay healthy and runs like he doesn't want to get his prom dress dirty.
PUNT
One of them can't stay healthy and runs like he doesn't want to get his prom dress dirty.
PUNT
brednbuddah
Footballguy
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
I think it matters where they go more than anything. Alexander is on the downswing of his career, but he might have 1 more season left in the tank. Jones has, at times, looked phenomenal but his mounting injuries have cast huge durability doubts. I think Jones will contribute the most this year. I'd like to see either of them in Denver, Tennessee, or Green Bay but I don't expect many teams to give them a fair shake in terms of contract offers.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Maybe so but they're the cream of the free agent crop currently. And, there are still some nice places for either of them to land. I'm just wondering who will have "first choice" per se. The guy who offers more could get the last enviable gig available. Heck, what RB wouldn't want to go to Denver and play for Mike Shanahan? Is Earnest Graham really what Gruden wants long term in Tampa? Two pretty mice fantasy gigs and there are a few more out there as well.Kevin Jones dynasty owner
::crosses fingers::
Donnybrook
Footballguy
I heard on NFL radio that Kevin Jones has been offered contracts but none to his liking.
Time is on his side - he only needs to wait for a critical training camp RB injury and he will have some leverage to negotiate a better contract then the league minimum deals he has been offered so far.
Both are massive injury risks with all sorts of physical baggage. One of the two has actually shown something on the field in the past two seasons, though, while the other has only shown that when an RB hits the wall, he hits it hard.
Kevin Jones by a significant margin.
Kevin Jones by a significant margin.
JPeso
Footballguy
Englishteacher
Footballguy
In case anyone wondered, I was the fat guy in the blue T-shirt he was working out against. Seriously, couldn't he have found anyone more athletic looking to run with?
twitch
Footballguy
I just watched video of Kevin Jones working out on a golf course. Worse, I saw video of him actually complaining about being cut by the Lions. Both are equally perplexing.
If I desperately needed one of these guys for this season, give me Alexander. Beyond that, I'd take a pass without hesitation.
If I desperately needed one of these guys for this season, give me Alexander. Beyond that, I'd take a pass without hesitation.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
Very surprised at the breakdown here.
Neither are world-beaters, but I think Alexander is the better back. Kevin Jones has NEVER impressed me. Some way some how, he is still living off of his college rep as being super-talented. He's a speed/finesse back with no speed. He's got good size, but doesn't show a lot of power. He doesn't show a lot of wiggle, and he doesn't break long runs with speed on the outside. What's left? When TJ Duckett can run for 5.2 YPC under the same conditions you produce 3.8, you've got problems, and they aren't all injuries.
Alexander on the other hand, is a reasonably talented back who looked mega-talented when running behind the best O-line in football for a couple of years. But for a guy who gets consistently bashed for being whimpy, he sure managed to score a lot of goal-line TDs. Again, the O-line was a HUGE part of that, but you still have to bring it to score 27 TDs in a year.
I would not spend a lot to get either of them at this point, but I wouldn't spend much of anything to get Jones and would be willing to take a shot on Alexander if he came cheap enough.
Neither are world-beaters, but I think Alexander is the better back. Kevin Jones has NEVER impressed me. Some way some how, he is still living off of his college rep as being super-talented. He's a speed/finesse back with no speed. He's got good size, but doesn't show a lot of power. He doesn't show a lot of wiggle, and he doesn't break long runs with speed on the outside. What's left? When TJ Duckett can run for 5.2 YPC under the same conditions you produce 3.8, you've got problems, and they aren't all injuries.
Alexander on the other hand, is a reasonably talented back who looked mega-talented when running behind the best O-line in football for a couple of years. But for a guy who gets consistently bashed for being whimpy, he sure managed to score a lot of goal-line TDs. Again, the O-line was a HUGE part of that, but you still have to bring it to score 27 TDs in a year.
I would not spend a lot to get either of them at this point, but I wouldn't spend much of anything to get Jones and would be willing to take a shot on Alexander if he came cheap enough.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I would take the 2005 Alexander over any KJ too, problem being the 2005 version of Alexander no longer exists. He was good, but the OLine made him look elite.
The love for Kevin Jones by many on this board is very perplexing.He showed promise as a rookie but that's it. The year he had a ton of receiving was an anomaly due to the Martz offense and Detroit sucking so defenses gave up the short stuff out of the backfield.Kevin Jones was a very promising COLLEGE RB, and somehow even 5 years later his owners think he'll learn to be a solid guy at the NFL level.
maxwelledison
Footballguy
My sentiments exactly.SA has become a popular whipping boy for almost all of us, and deservedly so, but if he fell into a good situation he may have one last year where he outperforms his draft position.
KJ is just too injury prone at this point for me to invest anything other than a waiver claim on him (and that is in a 16 team league).
tombonneau
Footballguy
I'm with you here. I think SA offers much more to a team in 08 than KJ. My impression of SA is he is very ego-driven. I remember a video interview his MVP season where he was rattling off his game stats for high school games TO THE YARD. Let's just say he loves him some him.And I don't think there is any way his ego wants him to end his career on such a negative PR note. I could see him signing up with a playoff team in a two-back system and giving 110% for one year, having a solid season, then hanging it up and ending on a high note.Unless injuries prevent this, I think this is a reasonable scenario.
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hutchins929
Footballguy
Not even when he ran over Ray Lewis for a TD, a couple years back? When I saw that I was like
! I think if he can stay healthy, thats a big IF, then he can be very productive for a team in the near future.Cadillac Williams is what Gruden wants long term in Tampa. I don't see any high profile RB being brought in until Caddy is finished beyond a doubt...meaning 2010 more than likely. That's assuming Graham doesn't just continue playing to well to replace.
