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Freedom you don't have in the USA (1 Viewer)

Atomic Punk said:
Come to Canada. We have legal sports gambling, legal weed and the ladies get completely nude at strip clubs.

Add in free health care and a leader that doesn't repulse the majority of our citizens ... we got I pretty good up here!
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Sounds like heaven except your booze and alcohol is insanely taxed. Give me Italy FTW. 

 
Nothing I really need to do I can't do. Laws have never stopped me. And if they come up with new ones I'll break them too.

 
At another board it was suggested that we stop calling it "single payer" or "Medicare for All" and instead label it "Canada Care" because of our inherent admiration for the manly and well-run country to our north.

 
Dan Lambskin said:
Michigan is topless only if alcohol is served
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Petty, arbitrary distinctions like that, and like the wildly disparate alcohol sales laws that govern what/when things can be sold, those really bug me. They may rarely or never affect me, but it sure seems like an unnecessary limitation on our "freedom".

 
Seriously, there might be a lot less divisiveness and anger in this country if a fella could go into town on a Saturday afternoon and buy 10 or 20 grams of good legal weed, get a legal bet down on the night's games and legally relieve any remaining angst at the hands (figure of speech) of a skilled sex worker. 

 
I am not free to compete against state sponsored monopolies such as cable companies.

I am not free to buy and sell firearms with out my gov't permission.

I am not free to sell alcohol in my state.

I am not free to travel via commercial aircraft with out state sponsored ID.

My cash money is subject to confiscation by local police if I carry to much of it.

I can only carry a firearm if I am given permission by my state.

I can not legally purchase weed or posses it.

I can not exercise my right to assembly with out asking permission from my government.

I am not free to own land with out being subject to taxation and forfeiture if not paid.

Women are not free to have an abortion.

Women are not free to sell their bodies as they see fit.

I am not free to gamble other than on state sponsored lotteries.

I am not free to allow others to participate in gambling on my property.

I am not free to drive with out a seat belt (not that I would)

I am not free to drive a motorcycle with out a helmet (not that I would)

Kids under 18 are not allowed to purchase video games deemed "mature"

I am not allowed to give my kids freedoms, such as playing alone at a park or going to the store unsupervised, or staying home alone.

Police check points are allowed and are mandatory to stop at.

Just a few I came up with.

 
Snorkelson said:
Not sure- I used to bartend in east Lansing and one Sunday these guys were in at open (11) and were 3/3 beers and shots deep by 12:30 and one guy wanted to know where the closest lotto was so he could play his parlays. I was like “whaaaaat? We don’t have that!” And he was baffled that we have football but no lotto parlays. This was maybe 10 years ago so I don’t know if they still do it but why wouldn’t you? Don’t remember the payout, the ticket was like $5 or $10. 
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Delaware has parlay cards as part of their lottery system

https://www.delottery.com/Sports-Lottery/Wagering

 
VandyMan said:
Petty, arbitrary distinctions like that, and like the wildly disparate alcohol sales laws that govern what/when things can be sold, those really bug me. They may rarely or never affect me, but it sure seems like an unnecessary limitation on our "freedom".
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I believe this is true in the majority of states.   Full nude=no alcohol.   Topless=alcohol.   

 
Atomic Punk said:
Come to Canada. We have legal sports gambling, legal weed and the ladies get completely nude at strip clubs.

Add in free health care and a leader that doesn't repulse the majority of our citizens ... we got I pretty good up here!
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Not to mention I'd rather drink a Labatt over a Bud.

 
ShamrockPride said:
What's this now? This a real thing?
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This is very much a real thing.  It's called civil fortiture.  If the police belive (requires no evidence) that your money or property were part of a crime they can conviscate it.  You personally are not charged with a crime, but your money is.  No way to get it back.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/09/01/police-seized-couples-cash-they-couldnt-get-it-back-until-they-went-public/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7fea7a57e169

My great state of South Carolina is one of the worst offenders.

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/in-depth/news/taken/2019/01/27/civil-forfeiture-south-carolina-police-property-seizures-taken-exclusive-investigation/2457838002/

 
Henry Ford said:
There is not one other type type that provides what a disposable plastic straw do to the disabled.  I don’t want to turn this into a big thing, but paper falls apart, metal can be painful and downright dangerous, silicone isn’t positionable in the same way and can also be dangerous and reusable plastic absorbs bacteria. 
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Compostable plastic straws work just fine.  We use compostable plastic for cups, utensils, and straws.  The only significant issues we have with the compostable plastic is that it has a limited shelf life (we try to use stock within six months) and it weakens rapidly when exposed to strong direct sunlight.

 
roadkill1292 said:
Seriously, there might be a lot less divisiveness and anger in this country if a fella could go into town on a Saturday afternoon and buy 10 or 20 grams of good legal weed, get a legal bet down on the night's games and legally relieve any remaining angst at the hands (figure of speech) of a skilled sex worker. 
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You just said the reason it does not happen. The powers that be would rather we snipe at each other .  It gives them a reason to exist in our swell "2 party" system.

 
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IC FBGCav said:
Since this is a "gamblin" site.

I hate when people say I this is a free country when I can't.........

Play Internet Poker legally.  

What simple, non sexual stuff can you not do in the USA where you live that baffles you?
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We all need to wait for sheldon addelson to die. Tthen the Rs that he's contributing to can quit stroking his #### when he tells them too.

 
lod001 said:
We all need to wait for sheldon addelson to die. Tthen the Rs that he's contributing to can quit stroking his #### when he tells them too.
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Hilarious that such a conservative icon and money man owns casinos yet of course internet gambling is the devil.

 
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Henry Ford said:
Ever had a seizure with a stainless steel straw in your mouth?
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Anyways, there are plenty of alternatives that will successfully ban 99%  of non biodegradable plastic straws, but you seem to be dodging that possibility.

 
The Future Champs said:
Anyways, there are plenty of alternatives that will successfully ban 99%  of non biodegradable plastic straws, but you seem to be dodging that possibility.
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I think it’s great.  Until “sorry, we just don’t have one of those for her.  Can she use something else? No? Okay, I’ll just cancel hers. Boy, you really should carry your own straws with you if you’re going to be all disabled and out in public.”

Does your business that uses compostsble straws keep regular disposable plastic straws on hand for the disabled?

 
Henry Ford said:
I think it’s great.  Until “sorry, we just don’t have one of those for her.  Can she use something else? No? Okay, I’ll just cancel hers. Boy, you really should carry your own straws with you if you’re going to be all disabled and out in public.”

Does your business that uses compostsble straws keep regular disposable plastic straws on hand for the disabled?
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Yes, but not as a matter of policy - yet.   We have regular plastic straws in stock because THEY LAST FOREVER, and we've quit using them on a daily basis.

Look, if the disabled need their regular plastic straws, then we'll stock plastic straws.   The expense is negligible, as is the storage space.  But for the rest of the 99% of the general public, too ####### bad.   Our goal isn't to eliminate every plastic straw on the planet; cutting the waste by 99% would be a success.

 
The Future Champs said:
Yes, but not as a matter of policy - yet.   We have regular plastic straws in stock because THEY LAST FOREVER, and we've quit using them on a daily basis.

Look, if the disabled need their regular plastic straws, then we'll stock plastic straws.   The expense is negligible, as is the storage space.  But for the rest of the 99% of the general public, too ####### bad.   Our goal isn't to eliminate every plastic straw on the planet; cutting the waste by 99% would be a success.
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:thumbup:

As long as they're available, that's a great way to go.  However, the "ban" businesses intend to not have them available.  Which is problematic in my opinion.

 
The Future Champs said:
Yes, but not as a matter of policy - yet.   We have regular plastic straws in stock because THEY LAST FOREVER, and we've quit using them on a daily basis.

Look, if the disabled need their regular plastic straws, then we'll stock plastic straws.   The expense is negligible, as is the storage space.  But for the rest of the 99% of the general public, too ####### bad.   Our goal isn't to eliminate every plastic straw on the planet; cutting the waste by 99% would be a success.
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I can't remember the number but it's over 30% of recycled plastic, meaning plastic that people recycled ends up in the normal landfill.

 
IC FBGCav said:
I can't remember the number but it's over 30% of recycled plastic, meaning plastic that people recycled ends up in the normal landfill.
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Yes, recycling plastic (and glass) is very imperfect.   This is definitely an issue, as it leads the general public to disregard recycling programs, and we really should make an effort to recycle aluminum.  

The goal with eliminating plastic straws from standard use is to cut down on plastic litter, and to improve our composting success rates.   The local compost company (Cedar Green) refuses compost loads that have too much plastic waste mixed in, and plastic straws are a major contributor to plastic waste on a consumer level in the food service industry.  At my business we frequently feed thousands of people multiple meals in a single day, using compostable products, and the two biggest contaminants in the compost stream WERE bottle caps and plastic straws.   Hallelujah, we’ve eliminated the plastic straw issue.   

 
The Future Champs said:
Yes, recycling plastic (and glass) is very imperfect.   This is definitely an issue, as it leads the general public to disregard recycling programs, and we really should make an effort to recycle aluminum.  

The goal with eliminating plastic straws from standard use is to cut down on plastic litter, and to improve our composting success rates.   The local compost company (Cedar Green) refuses compost loads that have too much plastic waste mixed in, and plastic straws are a major contributor to plastic waste on a consumer level in the food service industry.  At my business we frequently feed thousands of people multiple meals in a single day, using compostable products, and the two biggest contaminants in the compost stream WERE bottle caps and plastic straws.   Hallelujah, we’ve eliminated the plastic straw issue.   
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I don't disagree with anything you said but I think before we kill straws let's educate the people trying to do it right and find a straw solution.

 
The Future Champs said:
Look, if the disabled need their regular plastic straws, then we'll stock plastic straws.   The expense is negligible, as is the storage space.  But for the rest of the 99% of the general public, too ####### bad.   Our goal isn't to eliminate every plastic straw on the planet; cutting the waste by 99% would be a success.
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Reason #1 to have plastic straws.

 
I bought 4 metal straws about a year ago. I'm proud to say I have not lost one of them and drink from my metal straw every drink every day. 

 
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