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Decided to follow his draft article this year....drafted Knowshon Moreno in 4th round as he recommended with "Knowshon Moreno, RB, Broncos (5th, 4th): Kyle Orton under center means defenses have to at least respect the pass, John Fox at the helm means they'll be running a ton, and a finally healthy Moreno with no real competition (sorry, Willis, but it's true) means a fourth-round bargain. Yes-shon!"

Just listened to him on SVP show say something like: That's why I suggested quantity over quality with RB's this year, for example look at McGahee he's really coming on and I think he's good enough to be the #1 RB for the Broncos the rest of the year.

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'SCT said:
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Decided to follow his draft article this year....drafted Knowshon Moreno in 4th round as he recommended with "Knowshon Moreno, RB, Broncos (5th, 4th): Kyle Orton under center means defenses have to at least respect the pass, John Fox at the helm means they'll be running a ton, and a finally healthy Moreno with no real competition (sorry, Willis, but it's true) means a fourth-round bargain. Yes-shon!"

Just listened to him on SVP show say something like: That's why I suggested quantity over quality with RB's this year, for example look at McGahee he's really coming on and I think he's good enough to be the #1 RB for the Broncos the rest of the year.

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That was your 1st mistake. Though it was hawk-like

 
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'SCT said:
:thumbdown: Decided to follow his draft article this year....drafted Knowshon Moreno in 4th round as he recommended with "Knowshon Moreno, RB, Broncos (5th, 4th): Kyle Orton under center means defenses have to at least respect the pass, John Fox at the helm means they'll be running a ton, and a finally healthy Moreno with no real competition (sorry, Willis, but it's true) means a fourth-round bargain. Yes-shon!"Just listened to him on SVP show say something like: That's why I suggested quantity over quality with RB's this year, for example look at McGahee he's really coming on and I think he's good enough to be the #1 RB for the Broncos the rest of the year. :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot:
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'jhexel said:
'SCT said:
:thumbdown: Decided to follow his draft article this year....drafted Knowshon Moreno in 4th round as he recommended with "Knowshon Moreno, RB, Broncos (5th, 4th): Kyle Orton under center means defenses have to at least respect the pass, John Fox at the helm means they'll be running a ton, and a finally healthy Moreno with no real competition (sorry, Willis, but it's true) means a fourth-round bargain. Yes-shon!"Just listened to him on SVP show say something like: That's why I suggested quantity over quality with RB's this year, for example look at McGahee he's really coming on and I think he's good enough to be the #1 RB for the Broncos the rest of the year. :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot:
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CORRECT - was it YOUR team or Matthew's team?Stop blaming other people for your picks
 
Matthew Berry will lose every league he's playing in this season where he drafted Vick in the 1st and Moreno in the 4th.

But on the bright side, I will win all my ESPN leagues because he told people to draft Vick and Moreno. So thank you Matt! :bye:

 
My bad fellas, I don't have the time to do the amount of research the "experts" do so I tend to seek their advice hence my membership on this site too.

I realize everything in these replies, I'm just saying that it's pretty weak when an expert says one thing preseason and then goes 180 2 weeks in. "Sorry, Willis, but it's true". Weak.

Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this.

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I read and listen to Matthew Berry religiously, but for entertainment value only. I ignore specific advice he gives out on my players - it's pretty much worthless.

Actually, I remember one week a couple years ago when I decided that I would do the exact opposite of what he said for 3-4 key lineup decisions I had that week, and I had an awesome week. So maybe he has some value after all.

 
'killrobotkill said:
I read and listen to Matthew Berry religiously, but for entertainment value only. I ignore specific advice he gives out on my players - it's pretty much worthless. Actually, I remember one week a couple years ago when I decided that I would do the exact opposite of what he said for 3-4 key lineup decisions I had that week, and I had an awesome week. So maybe he has some value after all.
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Ya, lesson learned.
 
'SCT said:
My bad fellas, I don't have the time to do the amount of research the "experts" do so I tend to seek their advice hence my membership on this site too. I realize everything in these replies, I'm just saying that it's pretty weak when an expert says one thing preseason and then goes 180 2 weeks in. "Sorry, Willis, but it's true". Weak.Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this. :rolleyes:
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If only there were some other source for weekly projections and rankings. Like a paid site, so that you could be sure you were getting quality information, along with message boards, podcasts, and twitter feeds for even more interaction with these experts.
 
'SCT said:
My bad fellas, I don't have the time to do the amount of research the "experts" do so I tend to seek their advice hence my membership on this site too. I realize everything in these replies, I'm just saying that it's pretty weak when an expert says one thing preseason and then goes 180 2 weeks in. "Sorry, Willis, but it's true". Weak.Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this. :rolleyes:
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I listen to him sometimes simply b/c I listen to a lot of podcasts period between the gym, walking my dog, down time at work, etc., not b/c I enjoy him all that much. I much prefer the audible and the BFD shows, amongst others. It also is kind of interesting to get the ESPN mainstream type view just to figure out where guys are likely to get drafted in leagues where people don't follow things particularly closely.As to your post, I can see why you'd be annoyed. He tends to make it so he can almost never be wrong about a situation and the McGahee/Moreno thing is a good example. He makes it out like he was all over McGahee from the start when at the same time he was recommending "Yes-shon" (puke) in the 4th round. That podcast is mostly terrible with the sound effects and what not. In addition, Cecil, Sigmund, Waldman, etc. seem like dudes who would be cool to hang out with funny personalities. Berry and company, the exact opposite.
 
I don't even read Matthew Berry articles. I think everyone knows he's an idiot. The only thing he's good at is taking it on the chin, because he sure catches a lot of heat.

 
'killrobotkill said:
I read and listen to Matthew Berry religiously, but for entertainment value only. I ignore specific advice he gives out on my players - it's pretty much worthless.

Actually, I remember one week a couple years ago when I decided that I would do the exact opposite of what he said for 3-4 key lineup decisions I had that week, and I had an awesome week. So maybe he has some value after all.
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Treat Berry as an entertainer instead of an expert, and you will have a lot more fun. If you want "expert" advise out of an ESPN source, listen to Football Today with Matt Williamson. Not fantasy focused, but he will drop a lot of knowledge from a scout's perspective.
 
Wny does anyone listen to someone else when it comes to their team.

Its ok to "LISTEN" to advice, but do research on your own..thats why they have FBG. :thumbup:

 
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Ya bad decision, I could tell Matt berry was a fraud by watching that show he had and seeing some of his off the wall predictions. He used to piss me off because some of his predictions were way off. Doesn't like Rookie or 2nd year guys... tends to like players that are aging to much also. Don't follow his advice for PPR, because most of his leagues are standard, so remember that. All around he is a virgin fantasy expert at best and an ESPN Schmuck. Like there isn't enough of them. Anyways come to FBG or sites that know football and have other experts who follow it closer then a Matt Berry... aka Mr #####

 
First lesson, don't listen to the other "experts" outside of FBG. There are a couple other good ones out there, Berry isn't one of them.

 
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I love Berry actually. He has been keeping the public clueless about fantasy football for about a decade.

More Berry = More $ in my pocket

 
I tend to disagree, the podcast I find useful because of Stephania Bell's injury reports, its nice to get a professional opinion there. And hey, there is entertainment value for a daily podcast that is (somewhat) professionally produced and free. If I listened to every so called fantasy "expert" I would be broke. So no complaints here

 
It was funny listening to Berry after week one. The guy is more reactionary than anything you see on this board.

Still, he's a big upgrade for ESPN from Brandon Funston.

 
'SCT said:
:thumbdown: Decided to follow his draft article this year....drafted Knowshon Moreno in 4th round as he recommended with "Knowshon Moreno, RB, Broncos (5th, 4th): Kyle Orton under center means defenses have to at least respect the pass, John Fox at the helm means they'll be running a ton, and a finally healthy Moreno with no real competition (sorry, Willis, but it's true) means a fourth-round bargain. Yes-shon!"Just listened to him on SVP show say something like: That's why I suggested quantity over quality with RB's this year, for example look at McGahee he's really coming on and I think he's good enough to be the #1 RB for the Broncos the rest of the year. :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot:
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You are lucky to have Matthew Berry draft your team for you. Its been years since we had a celebrity appear at our draft. I had to pick my own team this year. :sadface:
 
'killrobotkill said:
'SCT said:
My bad fellas, I don't have the time to do the amount of research the "experts" do so I tend to seek their advice hence my membership on this site too. I realize everything in these replies, I'm just saying that it's pretty weak when an expert says one thing preseason and then goes 180 2 weeks in. "Sorry, Willis, but it's true". Weak.Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this. :rolleyes:
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If only there were some other source for weekly projections and rankings. Like a paid site, so that you could be sure you were getting quality information, along with message boards, podcasts, and twitter feeds for even more interaction with these experts.
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'JuSt CuZ said:
Wny does anyone listen to someone else when it comes to their team. Its ok to "LISTEN" to advice, but do research on your own..thats why they have FBG. :thumbup:
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'T with T said:
Ya bad decision, I could tell Matt berry was a fraud by watching that show he had and seeing some of his off the wall predictions. He used to piss me off because some of his predictions were way off. Doesn't like Rookie or 2nd year guys... tends to like players that are aging to much also. Don't follow his advice for PPR, because most of his leagues are standard, so remember that. All around he is a virgin fantasy expert at best and an ESPN Schmuck. Like there isn't enough of them. Anyways come to FBG or sites that know football and have other experts who follow it closer then a Matt Berry... aka Mr #####
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First lesson, don't listen to the other "experts" outside of FBG. There are a couple other good ones out there, Berry isn't one of them.
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I have been a FBG subscriber for about 15 years and have followed the perfect draft article devoutly for most of that time. Hasn't been helping for several years, decided to change it up.I'm a little surprised at all the backlash about "draft your own team, blah blah blah"....Obviously, we all draft our own teams in the end but I'm guessing that anyone who visits this board or is a FBG subscriber probably does so, to some extent to garner advice from other owners, if not "experts". What's the difference between that and what I'm describing? Jesus, I'm not saying that I just drafted anyone he said verbatim or something, I'm simply pointing out that I did take his advise on this one pick but more importantly that I think it's bogus when they flip flop completely after they are proven to be way off and try to pretend they said the opposite thing originally.Thanks for reminding me why I don't really post on here anymore...too many guys just sit around waiting to jump all over anyone who posts something.
 
I love everyone bashing Berry and basically saying he knows nothing. He must know enough to get paid (and I bet rather well) for a living to do something we all wish we could. No one is going to hit 100% on all their calls. Look at FBG hanging their hats on Mark Ingram. Plus the season is still young, so who knows who is right/wrong this year. Berry might not be the best, but he's not some random hack ESPN picked up off the street either.

 
'eoMMan said:
'yoadrian said:
I tend to disagree, the podcast I find useful because of Stephania Bell's injury reports, its nice to get a professional opinion there. And hey, there is entertainment value for a daily podcast that is (somewhat) professionally produced and free. If I listened to every so called fantasy "expert" I would be broke. So no complaints here
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Wow, eoMMan, we are usually soooo totally on the same page.This one, not so much. :unsure:

 
I don't even see how the two comments are conflicting. I mean he gives a lot of advice, is that the most hypocritical thing you can come up with?

Preseason he says he loves the situation and opportunity in Denver for RBs, and believes Knowshon, if healthy, is the clear starter. Pretty straightforward.

Obviously he can't predict injuries, and now that Knowshon is hurt, the exact same reasons why he liked Knowshon in the first place all apply to Mcgahee.

 
'jbz said:
I love everyone bashing Berry and basically saying he knows nothing. He must know enough to get paid (and I bet rather well) for a living to do something we all wish we could. No one is going to hit 100% on all their calls. Look at FBG hanging their hats on Mark Ingram. Plus the season is still young, so who knows who is right/wrong this year. Berry might not be the best, but he's not some random hack ESPN picked up off the street either.
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You probably think that Kornheiser was a good color commentator, and that Lavar Arrington is a good radio personality.In the entertainment business, not everyone who gets paid to do what they do is good at it. This is because the general public is stupid and does not have high expectations. Main-stream fantasy football analysis is no different. Hell, half the guys employed by ESPN and NFL Network as analysts/talking-heads totally suck at their jobs. But at least they have name recognition, from playing in the NFL.
 
'ConnSKINS26 said:
'jbz said:
I love everyone bashing Berry and basically saying he knows nothing. He must know enough to get paid (and I bet rather well) for a living to do something we all wish we could. No one is going to hit 100% on all their calls. Look at FBG hanging their hats on Mark Ingram. Plus the season is still young, so who knows who is right/wrong this year. Berry might not be the best, but he's not some random hack ESPN picked up off the street either.
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You probably think that Kornheiser was a good color commentator, and that Lavar Arrington is a good radio personality.In the entertainment business, not everyone who gets paid to do what they do is good at it. This is because the general public is stupid and does not have high expectations. Main-stream fantasy football analysis is no different. Hell, half the guys employed by ESPN and NFL Network as analysts/talking-heads totally suck at their jobs. But at least they have name recognition, from playing in the NFL.
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and so people on these boards are automatically better? I'm just saying ripping on Berry because he missed on a few predictions is silly. Everyone misses. Are we going to give him his props on the ones he hit on? Unlikely. Berry started out probably like the rest of us and he turned it into a business. ESPN then just scooped him up because they didn't have anyone in house as qualified.
 
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I listen to alot of podcasts, esp. in the offseason, and find the ESPN/CBSSports are great to know what the general consensus is. There is great information there, but not necessarily great advice. They know the stats, but not sure how much they pay attention to tape. It is entertainment, but personally I get a bit tired of all the man's league/90210 nonsense they are doing right as people are going into their drafts. That alone should tell you where their 'focus' is.

Later, they joke-off a few 'obvious' blunders; but I can't stand it when they back down on stuff I KNOW they recommended. If you are going hard to the hole, be ready to take a hit.

In season, everyone on podcasts goes daily, so I pare down. The Audible is a great source, as is the Matt Williamson/Ross Tucker scouting ESPN Football Today podcast. Just found another podcast with Greg Cosell doing game previews (from a Sharkpool post).

As for what to read, what to believe...there's a old saying about opinions, and I think it extends to FF advice. If you don't have time to watch some games, you may want to find a reputable source (or two) that watches games, and read/listen to what they are telling you about how players are performing, how they fit in a system, how the team projects to do. Read the Sharkpool. There's lots of good info in here. Then it's up to you to make decisions. You don't need to be an ESPN scout to pick it up.

With Knowshown, I can't think of ANYONE who really thought he would be a viable RB dating back (ding) to last Spring. First rumor was DeAngelo to DEN. Then McGahee to DEN. Then injuries in camp. Then the just the overall train wreck that John Fox inherited. Next to SEA and KC, DEN looked to be an obvious early season train wreck. And I think the writing has been on the wall for Knowshown. But, maybe it's b/c I listen to Cecil Lammey, who has such a distaste for Knowshown I wouldn't consider drafting him after listening to even one Audible.

As for your Vick pick: anyone who drafted Vick hopefully took someone as early as the 6th as a good QB backup, b/c you know he's going to miss a couple of games.

So buck up, work the wire, and find a new source of data!

 
Matthew Berry is a quick-witted guy with a distinct style that seems to work for him. He's not as nerdy, socially incompetent, fat, and awful looking as most fantasy gurus.

As far as fantasy football goes, I'd put him in the middle of the pack somewhere. I know I'm on the FBGs forum, but I don't see any of them doing any better with their metrics and nerd stats.

 
Cecil Lammey was reporting in early August that McGahee was looking great and could potentially supplant Knowshon. Not sure how you could've missed it, his Broncos camp report is routinely one of the best Shark Pool threads every preseason. LINK

 
'SCT said:
:thumbdown: Decided to follow his draft article this year....drafted Knowshon Moreno in 4th round as he recommended with "Knowshon Moreno, RB, Broncos (5th, 4th): Kyle Orton under center means defenses have to at least respect the pass, John Fox at the helm means they'll be running a ton, and a finally healthy Moreno with no real competition (sorry, Willis, but it's true) means a fourth-round bargain. Yes-shon!"Just listened to him on SVP show say something like: That's why I suggested quantity over quality with RB's this year, for example look at McGahee he's really coming on and I think he's good enough to be the #1 RB for the Broncos the rest of the year. :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot:
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You should have followed FBG's very own Cecil Lammey - who said Moreno looked like crap all throughout TC and McGahee was running strong. Go Cecil!
 
'Frankbot said:
Cecil Lammey was reporting in early August that McGahee was looking great and could potentially supplant Knowshon. Not sure how you could've missed it, his Broncos camp report is routinely one of the best Shark Pool threads every preseason. LINK
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We need some Cecil clones at other camps - all my best info is always on the Broncos and nobody else...
 
Look, say what you will about any particular person.

But just like "Cramer" is by no means someone you should hold accountable for your investment returns, Matt Berry isn't that guy either. He's an entertainer, and the face of ESPN Fantasy (which is a multi $100mm behemoth these days by the way). From everything I've heard about him (and David, Joe, Clayton and other FBGs see him at the FSTA events semi-annually), he's always been a good-natured guy who doesn't take himself too seriously. He's also brought a LOT of people into the ESPN fold and made them exceptionally nice livings, and it was his hustle that got him on air when many people -- most of us included -- were struggling to get AM radio stations to talk to us weekly.

I guess what I'm saying is, don't be that guy who hates. If you genuinely think his advice is bad, that's GOOD news for you, right? It can only help you leverage your own, divergent, opinions.

 
'Instinctive said:
'SCT said:
:thumbdown: Decided to follow his draft article this year....drafted Knowshon Moreno in 4th round as he recommended with "Knowshon Moreno, RB, Broncos (5th, 4th): Kyle Orton under center means defenses have to at least respect the pass, John Fox at the helm means they'll be running a ton, and a finally healthy Moreno with no real competition (sorry, Willis, but it's true) means a fourth-round bargain. Yes-shon!"Just listened to him on SVP show say something like: That's why I suggested quantity over quality with RB's this year, for example look at McGahee he's really coming on and I think he's good enough to be the #1 RB for the Broncos the rest of the year. :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot: :hot:
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You should have followed FBG's very own Cecil Lammey - who said Moreno looked like crap all throughout TC and McGahee was running strong. Go Cecil!
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:goodposting: one reason i passed on him. injury history, no sign of elite ability and training camp information.
 
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