From a 1942 Life magazine, invasion maps of NA by the Nazis (1 Viewer)

[Jewell]

I don't think Germany & Russia would have come to terms - two biggest dogs on the porch and all that.

If they did come to terms, it would only be for a short while before one party broke the pact like they broke the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Here are just a small sampling of reasons why Hitler wouldn't stick to an uneasy peace for long:-- Hitler spoke of the inevitable battle of philosphies (fascism vs. communism) and races (Germanic vs. Slavic) for decades, and wrote about the coming war between Germany and Russia in Mein Kampf and other places.-- The main reason for Operation Barbarosa was to give Germany living space to expand. Hitler's plan was to make the Slavs living in Russia (up to the Urals at least) 'disappear' except for the ones he kept around as servants for the new German residents he would send in to colonize. -- Adolf Hitler needed more resources for its hungry machines. Germany has a small area with little supplies. The USSR was rich in oil and other resources. Germany needed that resource to expand the Reich.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I don't think Germany & Russia would have come to terms - two biggest dogs on the porch and all that.

If they did come to terms, it would only be for a short while before one party broke the pact like they broke the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Here are just a small sampling of reasons why Hitler wouldn't stick to an uneasy peace for long:-- Hitler spoke of the inevitable battle of philosphies (fascism vs. communism) and races (Germanic vs. Slavic) for decades, and wrote about the coming war between Germany and Russia in Mein Kampf and other places.-- The main reason for Operation Barbarosa was to give Germany living space to expand. Hitler's plan was to make the Slavs living in Russia (up to the Urals at least) 'disappear' except for the ones he kept around as servants for the new German residents he would send in to colonize. -- Adolf Hitler needed more resources for its hungry machines. Germany has a small area with little supplies. The USSR was rich in oil and other resources. Germany needed that resource to expand the Reich.

Yep. It's hard to comprehend what Hitler's vision was - but it was simply to REPLACE "inferior" people with "superior" Germans. In fact, Hitler hardly looked at people like the Jews and Russians as human at all. There was zero chance that a German/Russian treaty would have lasted long.

 

[Jewell]

It's hard to comprehend what Hitler's vision was - but it was simply to REPLACE "inferior" people with "superior" Germans. In fact, Hitler hardly looked at people like the Jews and Russians as human at all.

Der UntermenschJust as the night rises against the day, the light and dark are in eternal conflict. So too, is the subhuman the greatest enemy of the dominant species on earth, mankind. The subhuman is a biological creature, crafted by nature, which has hands, legs, eyes and mouth, even the semblance of a brain. Nevertheless, this terrible creature is only a partial human being.

Although it has features similar to a human, the subhuman is lower on the spiritual and psychological scale than any animal. Inside of this creature lies wild and unrestrained passions: an incessant need to destroy, filled with the most primitive desires, chaos and coldhearted villainy.

A subhuman and nothing more! Not all of those, who appear human are in fact so. Woe to him who forgets it!

-- From "Der Untermensch", edited by Heinrich Himmler and published at the beginning of Operation Barbarossa (the invasion of the Soviet Union)

 

[Andy Dufresne]

It's hard to comprehend what Hitler's vision was - but it was simply to REPLACE "inferior" people with "superior" Germans. In fact, Hitler hardly looked at people like the Jews and Russians as human at all.

Der UntermenschJust as the night rises against the day, the light and dark are in eternal conflict. So too, is the subhuman the greatest enemy of the dominant species on earth, mankind. The subhuman is a biological creature, crafted by nature, which has hands, legs, eyes and mouth, even the semblance of a brain. Nevertheless, this terrible creature is only a partial human being.

Although it has features similar to a human, the subhuman is lower on the spiritual and psychological scale than any animal. Inside of this creature lies wild and unrestrained passions: an incessant need to destroy, filled with the most primitive desires, chaos and coldhearted villainy.

A subhuman and nothing more! Not all of those, who appear human are in fact so. Woe to him who forgets it!

-- From "Der Untermensch", edited by Heinrich Himmler and published at the beginning of Operation Barbarossa (the invasion of the Soviet Union)

Watch the movie "Downfall" and then with this quote in mind, listen to Hitler say towards the end "It wasn't just for Germany." Puts things in perspective.

 

[videoguy505]

What would the outcome have been if the Germans had gotten the Ark of the Covenant?

Good God!

Meh. We saw what happened. They opened it and God melted them. Imagine what happened on that island happening instead at a Nuremburg-type rally.

If Indy hadn't pushed Belloq, that's exactly what would have happened. Might have been better off in the long run if Indy hadn't gotten involved at all.

 

[bakes]

The Nazis couldn't invade Britain across the English Channel. They were going to invade the United States across the Atlantic??Talk about pie in the sky.

Goes to show just how easily people were stirred up back then. Greatest Generation...more like Greatest Generation of Rubes if you ask me.

Did you even read the thing?

 

[bakes]

Interesting battle of Detriot and the invasion of Norfolk Va.

If Germans were smart, they would have just entered in Mexico and invaded from that open border.

And once they were here, the liberals would have supported them.

My dad was a staunch Liberal and fought in WWII (5th AD, Battle of the Bulge). He would have gone down to kick their asses. Maybe you're thinking of Chicken Cheney and his five deferrments?

 

[Jewell]

The Nazis couldn't invade Britain across the English Channel. They were going to invade the United States across the Atlantic??

Talk about pie in the sky.

They just looked like pies???

Hitler's secret flying saucer: Did the Führer plan to attack London and New York in UFOs?

As Hitler's armies began to crumble on fronts as far apart as Stalingrad and North Africa, he turned in increasing desperation to his scientists to create a war-winning super-weapon. Some, like the V2 rockets and the first jet fighters, saw action but came too late to halt defeat. Others were so outrageously ambitious that they never got past the drawing board. The idea of building flying saucers to bomb London and even New York could have been just such a scheme.

But now it is claimed that Hitler’s scientists had indeed designed this type of aircraft – and were so far advanced with the project that a prototype may even have flown. The programme, under the command of SS officer Hans Kammler, was said to have made significant breakthroughs with their experiments, says a report in the German science magazine PM. It quotes eyewitnesses who believe they saw a flying saucer marked with the Iron Cross of the German military flying low over the Thames in 1944. Full Article

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

The Nazis couldn't invade Britain across the English Channel. They were going to invade the United States across the Atlantic??

Talk about pie in the sky.

They just looked like pies???

Hitler's secret flying saucer: Did the Führer plan to attack London and New York in UFOs?

As Hitler's armies began to crumble on fronts as far apart as Stalingrad and North Africa, he turned in increasing desperation to his scientists to create a war-winning super-weapon. Some, like the V2 rockets and the first jet fighters, saw action but came too late to halt defeat. Others were so outrageously ambitious that they never got past the drawing board. The idea of building flying saucers to bomb London and even New York could have been just such a scheme.

But now it is claimed that Hitler’s scientists had indeed designed this type of aircraft – and were so far advanced with the project that a prototype may even have flown. The programme, under the command of SS officer Hans Kammler, was said to have made significant breakthroughs with their experiments, says a report in the German science magazine PM. It quotes eyewitnesses who believe they saw a flying saucer marked with the Iron Cross of the German military flying low over the Thames in 1944. Full Article

Had the war lasted only a few months longer, he would have very likely dropped bombs all over NY and DC with his stealth bomber. Were talking a game changer.

 

[rascal]

They were close to discovering atomic weapons so that would have been the real game changer.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

They were close to discovering atomic weapons so that would have been the real game changer.

Can you imagine if they'd have had The Bomb at the siege of Stalingrad?

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

They were close to discovering atomic weapons so that would have been the real game changer.

That stealth fighter + the atom bomb = Alternate reality.MAYBE the allies would have been able to do something about it, but certainly not before he dropped a few on some major cities. All he needed was a few more months.

 

[CBusAlex]

Meh. We saw what happened. They opened it and God melted them. Imagine what happened on that island happening instead at a Nuremburg-type rally.

If Indy hadn't pushed Belloq, that's exactly what would have happened. Might have been better off in the long run if Indy hadn't gotten involved at all.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18658_6-mov...in-minutes.html

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Interesting battle of Detriot and the invasion of Norfolk Va.

Pretty wild and scarey stuff.

 

[grateful zed]

Akron.

The rubber and airship manufacturing made Akron very important during WWII.

Well, sure, but I don't think sacking Goodyear was the key to victory here. And honestly, the Nazis were more enamored with airships than anyone else. Funny thing is that we held all of the helium. Sorry, Hindenberg.

No but taking out the manufacturing in Ohio and Detroit would be a key to victory.

Can we stop defending Akron?

this issue of 'Live' is essentually an akronism.

 

[MC Gas Money]

At least if the axis won we wouldnt have obamacare

 

[Mister Martie]

Interesting battle of Detriot and the invasion of Norfolk Va.

Pretty wild and scarey stuff.

You had to bump a 3 year old thread to make this comment?

 

[Rayderr]

At least if the axis won we wouldnt have obamacare

Probably closer to something they originally tried to get. From wiki:

Nazi Germany had a strong anti-tobacco movement. Pioneering research by Franz H. Müller in 1939 demonstrated a causal link between tobacco smoking and lung cancer.[337] The Reich Health Office took measures to try to limit smoking, including producing lectures and pamphlets.[338] Smoking was banned in many workplaces, on trains, and among on-duty members of the military.[339] Government agencies also worked to control other carcinogenic substances such as asbestos and pesticides.[340] As part of a general public health campaign, water supplies were cleaned up, lead and mercury were removed from consumer products, and women were urged to undergo regular screenings for breast cancer.[341][342]

Government-run health care insurance plans were available, but Jews were denied coverage starting in 1933. That same year, Jewish doctors were forbidden to treat government-insured patients. In 1937 Jewish doctors were forbidden to treat non-Jewish patients, and in 1938 their right to practice medicine was removed entirely.[343]

 

[lod01]

Interesting battle of Detriot and the invasion of Norfolk Va.

Pretty wild and scarey stuff.

First comment in the comment section was what I was thinking. It was impossible with the technology that they had. they couldn't just take over the east coast, leave it and push west. They would have to leave some solders behind and enough to suppress any uprising. Without wiping everyone out, they just didn't have the manpower to occupy Europe and the US. It was a fantasy.