Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (3 Viewers)

[Chadstroma]

I know you guys have probably already discussed and moved on (can't possibly keep up with this thread)..but the way my FB blew up and overall Internet discussions I expected to the Sansa rape scene to be utterly disturbing...like something that might change me as a human by the way I kept hearing about it...then I watch it and what the hell?

Did it get edited by the time I got the replay? I didn't see anything all that disturbing. Bolton just bent her over and you see her face on the bed...while Wreak cries.

That can't really be the full scene...can it?

If so...where's my outrage? How can people be so overly upset? Especially in light of the graphic and brutal sex scenes we've had over the years in this very show? This is the one that causes a stir?

How does anyone watch that scene and get outraged but didn't get outraged by what happened to Wreak? For God's sake...the dude is right there in the scene and you somehow forget his plight and think, "Poor Sansa"?! What the hell is wrong with people?

Someone please explain this to me...or link me the unedited scene...thanks.

Damn you.... there is only about 50 pages worth of discussion on that- WE ARE TRYING TO NOT BRING UP THE SCENE THAT SHALL NOT BE DISCUSSED or else Karma might get loose again.

Damn...wow...I guess this scene caused a rift in here as well.Oh well...sorry guys...I don't get the outrage.

Guess we'll continue to see dudes get raped and sexually mutilated without even blinking but one female gets bent over and it's the end of the world.

It's so odd how men are becoming completely disposable and an afterthought and no one tries to pump the breaks on this over feministic agenda that keeps getting crammed down our throats.

Agreed. I found the discussion fun but enjoy poking fun of the situation. Last week we talked about two things: 1) How horrible the Sand Snake scene was. 2) The outrage/silliness of outrage of the rape scene.

Yea, there certainly was no outrage over Theon. So...... hey, damn it! Stop trying to pull me back in!!!

 

[TobiasFunke]

I know you guys have probably already discussed and moved on (can't possibly keep up with this thread)..but the way my FB blew up and overall Internet discussions I expected to the Sansa rape scene to be utterly disturbing...like something that might change me as a human by the way I kept hearing about it...then I watch it and what the hell?

Did it get edited by the time I got the replay? I didn't see anything all that disturbing. Bolton just bent her over and you see her face on the bed...while Wreak cries.

That can't really be the full scene...can it?

If so...where's my outrage? How can people be so overly upset? Especially in light of the graphic and brutal sex scenes we've had over the years in this very show? This is the one that causes a stir?

How does anyone watch that scene and get outraged but didn't get outraged by what happened to Wreak? For God's sake...the dude is right there in the scene and you somehow forget his plight and think, "Poor Sansa"?! What the hell is wrong with people?

Someone please explain this to me...or link me the unedited scene...thanks.

Damn you.... there is only about 50 pages worth of discussion on that- WE ARE TRYING TO NOT BRING UP THE SCENE THAT SHALL NOT BE DISCUSSED or else Karma might get loose again.

Damn...wow...I guess this scene caused a rift in here as well.Oh well...sorry guys...I don't get the outrage.

Guess we'll continue to see dudes get raped and sexually mutilated without even blinking but one female gets bent over and it's the end of the world.

It's so odd how men are becoming completely disposable and an afterthought and no one tries to pump the breaks on this over feministic agenda that keeps getting crammed down our throats.

IMO the outrage over the "outrage" was about a hundred times louder than the initial reaction. By and large the criticism of the scene resembled the criticism of the Ramsay/Theon overkill from last season; i.e. "OK, we get it already, enough with this, it's unpleasant and doesn't really seem important to the story."

There were couple fringe feminist blogs that went at it harder than that with some nonsense about "rape culture," but they were few and far between and were pretty much universally ridiculed, at least in this thread. Those sorts of complaints were rare enough that people had to go hunting for them in order to justify their own outrage in response.

 

[tdoss]

I know you guys have probably already discussed and moved on (can't possibly keep up with this thread)..but the way my FB blew up and overall Internet discussions I expected to the Sansa rape scene to be utterly disturbing...like something that might change me as a human by the way I kept hearing about it...then I watch it and what the hell?

Did it get edited by the time I got the replay? I didn't see anything all that disturbing. Bolton just bent her over and you see her face on the bed...while Wreak cries.

That can't really be the full scene...can it?

If so...where's my outrage? How can people be so overly upset? Especially in light of the graphic and brutal sex scenes we've had over the years in this very show? This is the one that causes a stir?

How does anyone watch that scene and get outraged but didn't get outraged by what happened to Wreak? For God's sake...the dude is right there in the scene and you somehow forget his plight and think, "Poor Sansa"?! What the hell is wrong with people?

Someone please explain this to me...or link me the unedited scene...thanks.

Damn you.... there is only about 50 pages worth of discussion on that- WE ARE TRYING TO NOT BRING UP THE SCENE THAT SHALL NOT BE DISCUSSED or else Karma might get loose again.

Damn...wow...I guess this scene caused a rift in here as well.Oh well...sorry guys...I don't get the outrage.

Guess we'll continue to see dudes get raped and sexually mutilated without even blinking but one female gets bent over and it's the end of the world.

It's so odd how men are becoming completely disposable and an afterthought and no one tries to pump the breaks on this over feministic agenda that keeps getting crammed down our throats.

IMO the outrage over the "outrage" was about a hundred times louder than the initial reaction. By and large the criticism of the scene resembled the criticism of the Ramsay/Theon overkill from last season; i.e. "OK, we get it already, enough with this, it's unpleasant and doesn't really seem important to the story."

There were couple fringe feminist blogs that went at it harder than that with some nonsense about "rape culture," but they were few and far between and were pretty much universally ridiculed, at least in this thread. Those sorts of complaints were rare enough that people had to go hunting for them in order to justify their own outrage in response.

Not sure hunting for them is valid.

I purposely stay away from Game of Thrones posts, threads and discussions...hell...look at this discussion here. I waited a while to come in here to discuss it.

But that night and the following days...my everything was blowing up with RAPE, RAPE, RAPE! I watched the episode two days after it aired and even though I tried purposely to stay away from anything Game of Thrones...I already knew this scene would be the thing that cannot be unseen before going in...

Then I see it and wonder if it was so bad that it obviously got edited.

We really need a war or something...America is in a constant state of offended sensibilities. Everyone is upset and pissed off and outraged all the time over the dumbest stuff...we need something to occupy our need for conflict.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I know you guys have probably already discussed and moved on (can't possibly keep up with this thread)..but the way my FB blew up and overall Internet discussions I expected to the Sansa rape scene to be utterly disturbing...like something that might change me as a human by the way I kept hearing about it...then I watch it and what the hell?

Did it get edited by the time I got the replay? I didn't see anything all that disturbing. Bolton just bent her over and you see her face on the bed...while Wreak cries.

That can't really be the full scene...can it?

If so...where's my outrage? How can people be so overly upset? Especially in light of the graphic and brutal sex scenes we've had over the years in this very show? This is the one that causes a stir?

How does anyone watch that scene and get outraged but didn't get outraged by what happened to Wreak? For God's sake...the dude is right there in the scene and you somehow forget his plight and think, "Poor Sansa"?! What the hell is wrong with people?

Someone please explain this to me...or link me the unedited scene...thanks.

Damn you.... there is only about 50 pages worth of discussion on that- WE ARE TRYING TO NOT BRING UP THE SCENE THAT SHALL NOT BE DISCUSSED or else Karma might get loose again.

Damn...wow...I guess this scene caused a rift in here as well.Oh well...sorry guys...I don't get the outrage.

Guess we'll continue to see dudes get raped and sexually mutilated without even blinking but one female gets bent over and it's the end of the world.

It's so odd how men are becoming completely disposable and an afterthought and no one tries to pump the breaks on this over feministic agenda that keeps getting crammed down our throats.

IMO the outrage over the "outrage" was about a hundred times louder than the initial reaction. By and large the criticism of the scene resembled the criticism of the Ramsay/Theon overkill from last season; i.e. "OK, we get it already, enough with this, it's unpleasant and doesn't really seem important to the story."

There were couple fringe feminist blogs that went at it harder than that with some nonsense about "rape culture," but they were few and far between and were pretty much universally ridiculed, at least in this thread. Those sorts of complaints were rare enough that people had to go hunting for them in order to justify their own outrage in response.

Not sure hunting for them is valid.

I purposely stay away from Game of Thrones posts, threads and discussions...hell...look at this discussion here. I waited a while to come in here to discuss it.

But that night and the following days...my everything was blowing up with RAPE, RAPE, RAPE! I watched the episode two days after it aired and even though I tried purposely to stay away from anything Game of Thrones...I already knew this scene would be the thing that cannot be unseen before going in...

Then I see it and wonder if it was so bad that it obviously got edited.

We really need a war or something...America is in a constant state of offended sensibilities. Everyone is upset and pissed off and outraged all the time over the dumbest stuff...we need something to occupy our need for conflict.

Everyone has their own twitter timelines and facebook friends and whatnot, so I obviously can't speak to your experience. But the vast majority of what I saw about it was people flipping out about an "outrage" that never really existed in any significant way, or maybe media clickbait stuff trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. There was certainly plenty of criticism, just as there was criticism of the Theon/Ramsay overkill last season, but that's not the same thing. I think if you read back through this thread you'd find the same thing was true in our little corner of the world.

Anyway, we've moved on, which is good because we were all mostly in agreement anyway. Some people thought it was superfluous and a bad choice, others disagreed, a couple people gave a viable explanation for why it might be relevant to the narrative, and that was that. Nobody was all that outraged IIRC.

 

[kentric]

The guy playing Samwell is actually a pretty dang good actor. Not on the level of Peter but he is likely top 5 in terms of acting ability in the whole series.

As for the story- I enjoy the ride as a whole. There are certain points in the ride I love and certain points that I am not so much in love with. For me, other than the first two Sand Snake scenes that were absolutely painful to watch, I have no gripes about the series at all. And really, my gripes about those scenes was that the 'quality' that is normally always there in this series was so lacking in every way. The directing was bad, the writing seemed lacking and the acting was not good at all.

I agree. He's pretty good. Not as good as the sand snakes, but he's up there.

His boobs may actually be on the same level too.

Wait... I can't decide if that was funny or just :X

I bet you can't wait for the obligatory Sam rape scene and the 30 page follow-up FFA discussion. hehe

 

[Chadstroma]

The guy playing Samwell is actually a pretty dang good actor. Not on the level of Peter but he is likely top 5 in terms of acting ability in the whole series.

As for the story- I enjoy the ride as a whole. There are certain points in the ride I love and certain points that I am not so much in love with. For me, other than the first two Sand Snake scenes that were absolutely painful to watch, I have no gripes about the series at all. And really, my gripes about those scenes was that the 'quality' that is normally always there in this series was so lacking in every way. The directing was bad, the writing seemed lacking and the acting was not good at all.

I agree. He's pretty good. Not as good as the sand snakes, but he's up there.

His boobs may actually be on the same level too.

Wait... I can't decide if that was funny or just :X

I bet you can't wait for the obligatory Sam rape scene and the 30 page follow-up FFA discussion. hehe

He is a guy. No discussion needed.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I know you guys have probably already discussed and moved on (can't possibly keep up with this thread)..but the way my FB blew up and overall Internet discussions I expected to the Sansa rape scene to be utterly disturbing...like something that might change me as a human by the way I kept hearing about it...then I watch it and what the hell?

Did it get edited by the time I got the replay? I didn't see anything all that disturbing. Bolton just bent her over and you see her face on the bed...while Wreak cries.

That can't really be the full scene...can it?

If so...where's my outrage? How can people be so overly upset? Especially in light of the graphic and brutal sex scenes we've had over the years in this very show? This is the one that causes a stir?

How does anyone watch that scene and get outraged but didn't get outraged by what happened to Wreak? For God's sake...the dude is right there in the scene and you somehow forget his plight and think, "Poor Sansa"?! What the hell is wrong with people?

Someone please explain this to me...or link me the unedited scene...thanks.

Damn you.... there is only about 50 pages worth of discussion on that- WE ARE TRYING TO NOT BRING UP THE SCENE THAT SHALL NOT BE DISCUSSED or else Karma might get loose again.

Nah, we already had the dumb non-book pissing contest this week- no need to talk about this more.

 

[KarmaPolice]

The guy playing Samwell is actually a pretty dang good actor. Not on the level of Peter but he is likely top 5 in terms of acting ability in the whole series.

As for the story- I enjoy the ride as a whole. There are certain points in the ride I love and certain points that I am not so much in love with. For me, other than the first two Sand Snake scenes that were absolutely painful to watch, I have no gripes about the series at all. And really, my gripes about those scenes was that the 'quality' that is normally always there in this series was so lacking in every way. The directing was bad, the writing seemed lacking and the acting was not good at all.

I agree. He's pretty good. Not as good as the sand snakes, but he's up there.

His boobs may actually be on the same level too.Wait... I can't decide if that was funny or just :X

I bet you can't wait for the obligatory Sam rape scene and the 30 page follow-up FFA discussion. hehe

He is a guy. No discussion needed.

Well, we could talk about Gilly almost getting raped and: 1. Her telling Sam to let it happen next time, and 2. Evidently made her randy enough to jump on Sam.

 

[Chadstroma]

The guy playing Samwell is actually a pretty dang good actor. Not on the level of Peter but he is likely top 5 in terms of acting ability in the whole series.

As for the story- I enjoy the ride as a whole. There are certain points in the ride I love and certain points that I am not so much in love with. For me, other than the first two Sand Snake scenes that were absolutely painful to watch, I have no gripes about the series at all. And really, my gripes about those scenes was that the 'quality' that is normally always there in this series was so lacking in every way. The directing was bad, the writing seemed lacking and the acting was not good at all.

I agree. He's pretty good. Not as good as the sand snakes, but he's up there.

His boobs may actually be on the same level too.Wait... I can't decide if that was funny or just :X

I bet you can't wait for the obligatory Sam rape scene and the 30 page follow-up FFA discussion. hehe

He is a guy. No discussion needed.

Well, we could talk about Gilly almost getting raped and: 1. Her telling Sam to let it happen next time, and 2. Evidently made her randy enough to jump on Sam.

 

[Dickies]

I know you guys have probably already discussed and moved on (can't possibly keep up with this thread)..but the way my FB blew up and overall Internet discussions I expected to the Sansa rape scene to be utterly disturbing...like something that might change me as a human by the way I kept hearing about it...then I watch it and what the hell?

Did it get edited by the time I got the replay? I didn't see anything all that disturbing. Bolton just bent her over and you see her face on the bed...while Wreak cries.

That can't really be the full scene...can it?

If so...where's my outrage? How can people be so overly upset? Especially in light of the graphic and brutal sex scenes we've had over the years in this very show? This is the one that causes a stir?

How does anyone watch that scene and get outraged but didn't get outraged by what happened to Wreak? For God's sake...the dude is right there in the scene and you somehow forget his plight and think, "Poor Sansa"?! What the hell is wrong with people?

Someone please explain this to me...or link me the unedited scene...thanks.

Damn you.... there is only about 50 pages worth of discussion on that- WE ARE TRYING TO NOT BRING UP THE SCENE THAT SHALL NOT BE DISCUSSED or else Karma might get loose again.

Damn...wow...I guess this scene caused a rift in here as well.Oh well...sorry guys...I don't get the outrage.

Guess we'll continue to see dudes get raped and sexually mutilated without even blinking but one female gets bent over and it's the end of the world.

It's so odd how men are becoming completely disposable and an afterthought and no one tries to pump the breaks on this over feministic agenda that keeps getting crammed down our throats.

IMO the outrage over the "outrage" was about a hundred times louder than the initial reaction. By and large the criticism of the scene resembled the criticism of the Ramsay/Theon overkill from last season; i.e. "OK, we get it already, enough with this, it's unpleasant and doesn't really seem important to the story."

There were couple fringe feminist blogs that went at it harder than that with some nonsense about "rape culture," but they were few and far between and were pretty much universally ridiculed, at least in this thread. Those sorts of complaints were rare enough that people had to go hunting for them in order to justify their own outrage in response.

Not sure hunting for them is valid.

I purposely stay away from Game of Thrones posts, threads and discussions...hell...look at this discussion here. I waited a while to come in here to discuss it.

But that night and the following days...my everything was blowing up with RAPE, RAPE, RAPE! I watched the episode two days after it aired and even though I tried purposely to stay away from anything Game of Thrones...I already knew this scene would be the thing that cannot be unseen before going in...

Then I see it and wonder if it was so bad that it obviously got edited.

We really need a war or something...America is in a constant state of offended sensibilities. Everyone is upset and pissed off and outraged all the time over the dumbest stuff...we need something to occupy our need for conflict.

Or just more Sand Snake boobies

 

[17seconds]

The final 10 mins of the last episode was the best of the season so far.

 

[Gr00vus]

The final 10 mins of the last episode was the best of the season so far.

Remind me what happened - I've honestly forgotten.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The final 10 mins of the last episode was the best of the season so far.

Remind me what happened - I've honestly forgotten.

cersei tossed in jail

 

[The Ref]

My prediction is episode 8 is another one setting things up and then all hell breaks loose in episode 9.

 

[RUSF18]

Everything seems to slow to a crawl when Sam and Gilly are involved. Maybe they need to go to the other side of the wall and never be seen again?

Yeah, I don't get this at all. I'm always happy when they cut to Sam and Gilly. They salvaged a doomed baby, had multiple encounters with White Walkers, including killing one, Sam fought the wildling invasion while hiding Gilly and baby from harm, Sam advised Jon Snow a bunch, he had a great scene with Stannis recently, and now we got a sex scene out of them too. They're among the few likable characters whose story line hasn't been filled with death and darkness.

Am I off base here? Does anyone else find them boring?

Ive been complaining how boring they are since Gilly was introduced

I like Gilly, but I think we'd all like her more if she actually looked like she did in real life

 

[Chadstroma]

I know you guys have probably already discussed and moved on (can't possibly keep up with this thread)..but the way my FB blew up and overall Internet discussions I expected to the Sansa rape scene to be utterly disturbing...like something that might change me as a human by the way I kept hearing about it...then I watch it and what the hell?

Did it get edited by the time I got the replay? I didn't see anything all that disturbing. Bolton just bent her over and you see her face on the bed...while Wreak cries.

That can't really be the full scene...can it?

If so...where's my outrage? How can people be so overly upset? Especially in light of the graphic and brutal sex scenes we've had over the years in this very show? This is the one that causes a stir?

How does anyone watch that scene and get outraged but didn't get outraged by what happened to Wreak? For God's sake...the dude is right there in the scene and you somehow forget his plight and think, "Poor Sansa"?! What the hell is wrong with people?

Someone please explain this to me...or link me the unedited scene...thanks.

Damn you.... there is only about 50 pages worth of discussion on that- WE ARE TRYING TO NOT BRING UP THE SCENE THAT SHALL NOT BE DISCUSSED or else Karma might get loose again.

Damn...wow...I guess this scene caused a rift in here as well.Oh well...sorry guys...I don't get the outrage.

Guess we'll continue to see dudes get raped and sexually mutilated without even blinking but one female gets bent over and it's the end of the world.

It's so odd how men are becoming completely disposable and an afterthought and no one tries to pump the breaks on this over feministic agenda that keeps getting crammed down our throats.

IMO the outrage over the "outrage" was about a hundred times louder than the initial reaction. By and large the criticism of the scene resembled the criticism of the Ramsay/Theon overkill from last season; i.e. "OK, we get it already, enough with this, it's unpleasant and doesn't really seem important to the story."

There were couple fringe feminist blogs that went at it harder than that with some nonsense about "rape culture," but they were few and far between and were pretty much universally ridiculed, at least in this thread. Those sorts of complaints were rare enough that people had to go hunting for them in order to justify their own outrage in response.

Not sure hunting for them is valid.

I purposely stay away from Game of Thrones posts, threads and discussions...hell...look at this discussion here. I waited a while to come in here to discuss it.

But that night and the following days...my everything was blowing up with RAPE, RAPE, RAPE! I watched the episode two days after it aired and even though I tried purposely to stay away from anything Game of Thrones...I already knew this scene would be the thing that cannot be unseen before going in...

Then I see it and wonder if it was so bad that it obviously got edited.

We really need a war or something...America is in a constant state of offended sensibilities. Everyone is upset and pissed off and outraged all the time over the dumbest stuff...we need something to occupy our need for conflict.

Or just more Sand Snake boobies

That works for me.

 

[mozzy84]

My prediction is episode 8 is another one setting things up and then all hell breaks loose in episode 9.

oooof another set up episode, I've fallen asleep during shows enough this season already

 

[TenTimes]

My prediction is episode 8 is another one setting things up and then all hell breaks loose in episode 9.

I agree, but the Oberyn v. Mountain fight was ep 8 last season so we may get something this week.

 

[culdeus]

what sort of odds can I get in ginny taking the iron throne?

 

[Chadstroma]

Everything seems to slow to a crawl when Sam and Gilly are involved. Maybe they need to go to the other side of the wall and never be seen again?

Yeah, I don't get this at all. I'm always happy when they cut to Sam and Gilly. They salvaged a doomed baby, had multiple encounters with White Walkers, including killing one, Sam fought the wildling invasion while hiding Gilly and baby from harm, Sam advised Jon Snow a bunch, he had a great scene with Stannis recently, and now we got a sex scene out of them too. They're among the few likable characters whose story line hasn't been filled with death and darkness.

Am I off base here? Does anyone else find them boring?

Ive been complaining how boring they are since Gilly was introduced

I like Gilly, but I think we'd all like her more if she actually looked like she did in real life

Yea, she is certainly not unattractive in real life like she is in the show. They play up her buck teeth and obviously she is not exactly dressed and dolled up like Queen Margery.

 

[Chadstroma]

Ser Jorah kicked some major rear. I mean, they talked him up in past episodes as a real warrior but the one time we saw him in action it almost seemed like luck rather than skill.

 

[Gr00vus]

Ser Jorah kicked some major rear. I mean, they talked him up in past episodes as a real warrior but the one time we saw him in action it almost seemed like luck rather than skill.

That scene was about as silly as the xena snakes scene.

 

[TenTimes]

what sort of odds can I get in ginny taking the iron throne?

Called it weeks ago. Sam wins and the moral of the story is that behind every great man is a woman who pushed him further than he was capable of alone.

And I kinda think the Dany storyline is intentionally annoying/frustrating.

 

[PatsWillWin]

what sort of odds can I get in ginny taking the iron throne?

I'm not sure that'd sit well with house Slytherin.

 

[Chadstroma]

Ser Jorah kicked some major rear. I mean, they talked him up in past episodes as a real warrior but the one time we saw him in action it almost seemed like luck rather than skill.

That scene was about as silly as the xena snakes scene.

You are crazy. Maybe a little over the top in how good of a warrior Jorah is but maybe not... I mean, his past reputation was that of a first rate warrior in the same league as Jamie (two hands), Hound, Bronn, etc. Tyrion was not embellishing too much. Plus, he did have the confidence to challenge that blood rider. I think the fighting style was understandably defensive in that he was in armor and the blood rider had the huge advantage in agility.

The scene reminded me of Gladiator.

 

[PatsWillWin]

My prediction is episode 8 is another one setting things up and then all hell breaks loose in episode 9.

I agree, but the Oberyn v. Mountain fight was ep 8 last season so we may get something this week.

If nothing else, we will definitely have a Tyrian/Dany conversation. That should be worth the hour alone. Maybe the little guy can actually start laying the groundwork for her to think of ####### Westeros.

It also seems like something has to give with the Sands/Reek thing. Can't just do s third episode of her being sad send him being ####ed up. Maybe it's Brienne time.

 

[Quint]

Ser Jorah kicked some major rear. I mean, they talked him up in past episodes as a real warrior but the one time we saw him in action it almost seemed like luck rather than skill.

That scene was about as silly as the xena snakes scene.

seriously.

half expected to see Jorrah whip off his helmet screaming, "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED, MY QUEEN?!"

give that guy some Greyscale accelerant and move along.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Ser Jorah kicked some major rear. I mean, they talked him up in past episodes as a real warrior but the one time we saw him in action it almost seemed like luck rather than skill.

That scene was about as silly as the xena snakes scene.

You are crazy. Maybe a little over the top in how good of a warrior Jorah is but maybe not... I mean, his past reputation was that of a first rate warrior in the same league as Jamie (two hands), Hound, Bronn, etc. Tyrion was not embellishing too much. Plus, he did have the confidence to challenge that blood rider. I think the fighting style was understandably defensive in that he was in armor and the blood rider had the huge advantage in agility.The scene reminded me of Gladiator.

I don't think Jorah is held in the same tier of those guys, but it does seem established (mostly by himself) that he's as least well above average. The thing with that scene is he's fighting slaves in a backwater slave pit. All of the high born guys grew up with a master of arms training them, so they're automatically better than a scrub off the street.

I posed the question in the varsity thread asking who everyone thought the best fighters in the GoT world of were. Apparently it was too nerdy a question, even for that crowd.

 

[Gr00vus]

Ser Jorah kicked some major rear. I mean, they talked him up in past episodes as a real warrior but the one time we saw him in action it almost seemed like luck rather than skill.

That scene was about as silly as the xena snakes scene.

You are crazy. Maybe a little over the top in how good of a warrior Jorah is but maybe not... I mean, his past reputation was that of a first rate warrior in the same league as Jamie (two hands), Hound, Bronn, etc. Tyrion was not embellishing too much. Plus, he did have the confidence to challenge that blood rider. I think the fighting style was understandably defensive in that he was in armor and the blood rider had the huge advantage in agility.

The scene reminded me of Gladiator.

IIRC he was knocking guys out by bonking them on the head with their own helmets. It was goofy. Surprised he didn't try the double eye poke maneuver in there somewhere.

 

[Quint]

"My name is Ser Jorah Mormont. Lord of Bear Island and House Mormont, loyal servant to the TRUE Queen of Westeros, Daenerys Targaryen.

Captor of a garrulous Dwarf, and spy to a Eunuch in King’s Landing. And I will creepily stalk The Mother of Dragons, in this life or the next."

 

[Gr00vus]

I posed the question in the varsity thread asking who everyone thought the best fighters in the GoT world of were. Apparently it was too nerdy a question, even for that crowd.

I think it's a question that's been discussed before. I know there are other places on the internet where they'd be happy to indulge you in that conversation (or it's already been had) ad nauseam.

 

[Scoresman]

Is it controversial for me to say that post-wedding night, disheveled Sansa is really hot?

Edit: same with dirty, prison margery.

 

[Scoresman]

also a big plothole in the last episode. who is the guy at castle black in charge of opening doors to let the giant dire wolf inside buildings.

 

[Quint]

also a big plothole in the last episode. who is the guy at castle black in charge of opening doors to let the giant dire wolf inside buildings.

Eucatastrophe?

 

[Weeber]

also a big plothole in the last episode. who is the guy at castle black in charge of opening doors to let the giant dire wolf inside buildings.

He went through a window duh.

 

[Chadstroma]

Ser Jorah kicked some major rear. I mean, they talked him up in past episodes as a real warrior but the one time we saw him in action it almost seemed like luck rather than skill.

That scene was about as silly as the xena snakes scene.

You are crazy. Maybe a little over the top in how good of a warrior Jorah is but maybe not... I mean, his past reputation was that of a first rate warrior in the same league as Jamie (two hands), Hound, Bronn, etc. Tyrion was not embellishing too much. Plus, he did have the confidence to challenge that blood rider. I think the fighting style was understandably defensive in that he was in armor and the blood rider had the huge advantage in agility.The scene reminded me of Gladiator.

I don't think Jorah is held in the same tier of those guys, but it does seem established (mostly by himself) that he's as least well above average. The thing with that scene is he's fighting slaves in a backwater slave pit. All of the high born guys grew up with a master of arms training them, so they're automatically better than a scrub off the street.

I posed the question in the varsity thread asking who everyone thought the best fighters in the GoT world of were. Apparently it was too nerdy a question, even for that crowd.

I can't remember how much was in the show and how much was back ground info I stumbled upon.....

So, I will just say I would say that he is low end Tier I of Westeros fighters.

But, I agree that the quality of fighters in the put made it easy for him.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Bronn, Brien, Jon Snow, and the first ranger guy are probably at the top of the list for characters that are alive or have both hands.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Bronn, Brien, Jon Snow, and the first ranger guy are probably at the top of the list for characters that are alive or have both hands.

Of all the characters we have known, I would think Robert, The Mountain, and maybe Oberyn?

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Bronn, Brien, Jon Snow, and the first ranger guy are probably at the top of the list for characters that are alive or have both hands.

Of all the characters we have known, I would think Robert, The Mountain, and maybe Oberyn?

The Hound too.

 

[The Duff Man]

also a big plothole in the last episode. who is the guy at castle black in charge of opening doors to let the giant dire wolf inside buildings.

Ghost

 

[Quint]

Bronn, Brien, Jon Snow, and the first ranger guy are probably at the top of the list for characters that are alive or have both hands.

Of all the characters we have known, I would think Robert, The Mountain, and maybe Oberyn?

The Hound too.

The Dancing Master? [forgot his name]

 

[PatsWillWin]

Bronn, Brien, Jon Snow, and the first ranger guy are probably at the top of the list for characters that are alive or have both hands.

Of all the characters we have known, I would think Robert, The Mountain, and maybe Oberyn?

The Hound too.

I don't think Jon Snow has done anything to show that he belongs in this conversation.

I don't remember how I had it before in the book discussion, but thinking of ONLY what has been shown/said in the show:

1) Oberyn - beat the Mountain, just talked too much

2) The Mountain - enormous and not as slow as you'd expect for a man his size per Bronn

3) Jaimie (two-handed) - told Brienne there's only a couple men in the realm who could hang with him

4) Bronn - Fights dirty, Tyrion said he was nearly as good as Jaimie

5) Robert (Rebellion Robert, not King Robert) - crushed fools with his hammer, apparently used to have tremendous strength

6) Selmy (a bit closer to his prime) - even at 70, is slaughtering Harpy Boys, indicated he could still kill the other five brothers of the Kingsguard

7) Brienne - beat the Hound (barely), beat Jaimie (while handcuffed), beat Loras in a melee

8) Hound - not sure how good he is and how much is just his size

9) Ned Stark - held his own against Jaimie before being stabbed in the leg - Jaimie actually looked a little annoyed about it

10) Jorah - killed a dothraki rider, owned a bunch of noobs in the slave pit

 

[Gr00vus]

Drogo deserves some consideration.

 

[Gr00vus]

Bronn, Brien, Jon Snow, and the first ranger guy are probably at the top of the list for characters that are alive or have both hands.

Of all the characters we have known, I would think Robert, The Mountain, and maybe Oberyn?

The Hound too.

The Dancing Master? [forgot his name]

Syrio Forel

 

[flapgreen]

The final 10 mins of the last episode was the best of the season so far.

Remind me what happened - I've honestly forgotten.

Me too

 

[flapgreen]

Ser Jorah kicked some major rear. I mean, they talked him up in past episodes as a real warrior but the one time we saw him in action it almost seemed like luck rather than skill.

That scene was about as silly as the xena snakes scene.

I'm really confused now

 

[flapgreen]

My prediction is episode 8 is another one setting things up and then all hell breaks loose in episode 9.

I agree, but the Oberyn v. Mountain fight was ep 8 last season so we may get something this week.

If nothing else, we will definitely have a Tyrian/Dany conversation. That should be worth the hour alone. Maybe the little guy can actually start laying the groundwork for her to think of ####### Westeros.It also seems like something has to give with the Sands/Reek thing. Can't just do s third episode of her being sad send him being ####ed up. Maybe it's Brienne time.

She's going to #### all of Westeros?

 

[shadyridr]

I wish I lived in Westeros

 

[flapgreen]

Bronn, Brien, Jon Snow, and the first ranger guy are probably at the top of the list for characters that are alive or have both hands.

Bronn, Mountain, Brien, Hound, 2 handed Jamie, and Barristan

 

[tdoss]

Bronn, Brien, Jon Snow, and the first ranger guy are probably at the top of the list for characters that are alive or have both hands.

Of all the characters we have known, I would think Robert, The Mountain, and maybe Oberyn?

The Hound too.

The Dancing Master? [forgot his name]

Syrio Forel

This dude was my number 1 draft pick when my son asked me this question years ago.