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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (8 Viewers)

He has Stark blood but not Ned's. Maybe that won't matter to everyone in the North if people find out who his true parents are. Maybe it will. But ultimately I don't think Jon wants to rule. I think he's doing it now because he thinks it's what he needs to do and it's what is expected of him now. But if he had a choice he'd probably let Sansa run things and he'd go somewhere warm like he originally wanted before she showed up at Castle Black.  
Wait...I may have missed something.

I thought in that flashback...that was Ned coming to his sister's bedside.  She said, "I missed you big brother."


So, I assume Jon Snow has more Stark blood in him and anyone ever.  Am I wrong to assume Ned and his sister are the parents of Jon Snow?

 
Also, what did I miss with the Sam and the library thing...he just sought out a really cool library?
Sam's gotta go learn stuff...and come back with the plan to kill the white walkers.

Dragons kill off the horde, but not the handful of leaders...those dudes will require valarian steel.

Only a handful of people have that, right?  Brienne, Arya, Sam, Jon, who else?

 
Speaking of incest... Those dragons should be inbreeding like a mother ####er if you ask me.

 
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Wait...I may have missed something.

I thought in that flashback...that was Ned coming to his sister's bedside.  She said, "I missed you big brother."


So, I assume Jon Snow has more Stark blood in him and anyone ever.  Am I wrong to assume Ned and his sister are the parents of Jon Snow?
Yes you are wrong. Raegar Targaryean loved Lyanna Stark

 
Wait...I may have missed something.

I thought in that flashback...that was Ned coming to his sister's bedside.  She said, "I missed you big brother."


So, I assume Jon Snow has more Stark blood in him and anyone ever.  Am I wrong to assume Ned and his sister are the parents of Jon Snow?
Yes, you're wrong to assume this. 

 
Were those Varys' little birds or did Cersei have her own? I don't remember them being killers. Awesome scene though.

also, was it assumed the mountain raped the sister?

 
Sam's gotta go learn stuff...and come back with the plan to kill the white walkers.

Dragons kill off the horde, but not the handful of leaders...those dudes will require valarian steel.

Only a handful of people have that, right?  Brienne, Arya, Sam, Jon, who else?
Arya doesn't have it. Needle is only special to her because Jon had it made for her by the Winterfell blacksmith in season one. It's good castle steel but not Valyrian. 

The list that we know of is:

Jon, Sam, Brienne, and whoever has Joffrey's old sword, the sister to Brienne's that came from Ned's huge sword.

 
Yeah... just amazing, top to bottom.

Possible hubbies for Dany:

- obviously Jon

- Jamie

- Tyrion

- Bran

- greyjoy uncle

- bear island girl :pickle:

Possible enemies:

Lannisters

Greyjoys

Little finger

Sansa

Sandsnakes

?

Frostydownerpost... speaking of those ships, no way a navy sails like that all clumped together and blocking the wind. Massive mistake that ruins the episode and writers credibility.

 
Were those Varys' little birds or did Cersei have her own? I don't remember them being killers. Awesome scene though.

also, was it assumed the mountain raped the sister?
Yes, Maester Q mentioned to Cersei a couple episodes back that he had recruited the little birds, when he was talking about the rumor he confirmed. Which I think was the cache of wild fire.

and I'm pretty sure the Mountain was peeing on the sister when Cersei walked out, sounded like it anyway. I definitely assumed that Cersei is going to Ramsey Bolton her, including letting the Mountain treat her like his personal chew toy. I would feel bad for her, if she hadn't earned it.

 
Arya doesn't have it. Needle is only special to her because Jon had it made for her by the Winterfell blacksmith in season one. It's good castle steel but not Valyrian. 

The list that we know of is:

Jon, Sam, Brienne, and whoever has Joffrey's old sword, the sister to Brienne's that came from Ned's huge sword.
Jon has Longclaw, Sam has Heartsbane, Brienne has half of Ice known as Oathkeeper, Tommen had Joffery's sword, the other half of Ice, known as Widow's Wail.  There is also the Valyrian Dagger that belonged to Littlefinger that was used in the attempt on Bran's life in season 1.

I believe there are a few others (but books/backstory do not exist)

 
Lucinda Mormont was pretty awesome... "I'm a little girl....but all you men are acting like a bunch of little girls.  SUCK IT MANDERLY!"......

 
I think Littlefinger's going to keep his plan rolling successfully (maybe do some damage to the Jon/Sansa alliance) but then he's going to do something that makes Robin "PROTECTOR OF THE VALE" Arryn pissed off....and he'll be thrown out the Moon Door. 

 
So - predictions on tonight's episode?

My guesses - no legitimate spoliers

Wall

Bran makes it to the wall, has his last peek into the past, we find out Jon is a Targaryen/Stark;  Wall begins to crack, Whitewalkers have a way thorugh.




Winterfell

Jon is crowned King of the North.  He pardons Melisandre, Davos walks/rides away.  Sansa and Littlefinger discuss marriage but maybe between Sansa and Robyn




Kings Landing - one legit spoiler in here

Loras and Cersei have their trials.  Loras admits his sins, punishment = castration.  Cersei does not show up - blows up the Sept instead killing everyone in their - including Sparrows, Margaery, Loras, and other Tyrells, and an undetermined number of high society types.  Tommen sees this, and jumps out a window, killing himself.  Cersei realizes the prophecy has come true.




Freys/Lannisters

Arya shows up at the Frey/Lannister feast - kills Walder Frey, becomes Red Wedding, Part II  can see this breaking down into Lannisters v. Freys when they start blaming each other.




Dorne

Nothing much here - Varys secures Dorne, and maybe Lady Olenna as allies for Daenerys




Mereen

Daenerys and Tyrion join with Iron Fleet to head to Westeros




Other stuff

Euron Greyjoy has his fleet and sets out to woo Daenerys,  Samwell and Gilly make it to oldtown with the sword - send white ravens to other houses to warn that Winter is here.  Brienne and Pod meet up with Brotherhood, and continue the trek up north.

Jorah Mormont is seen headed to Valyria - photo of him from the set
Prescient on some of these.  Well done!

 
This is what I assumed happened. It would make sense that they sailed to Dorne to meet up with the rest of their allies.
And it also helps keep the story moving along briskly which they've really begun doing. Let's get Dany to King's Landing now. No more messing around. Time for her to get there and fight for the Iron Throne. Time's running out. 

 
Nobody has mentioned the Arya re-emergence...about effing time that story line paid off.
I did. It was freaking great. I've been waiting for a Stark to avenge one of the Stark murders. Fitting it was Arya who did it and I loved that she avenged the Red Wedding. Arya's become all kinds of a major league bad ###. Now it's time for her to get back with Jon and Sansa. Let's get all the Starks together again. The way all the storylines are beginning to merge together I don't think we'll see a lot of fragmented stories anymore. Not enough time left on the show to keep doing that. 

 
A few things:

  • The Grand Maester with the hooker?  Impressive at his age.
  • The hooker gets stiffed on the fee.  (Yeah, I see what I did there.)
  • The girl playing Lyanna Mormont.  She's the one to get a Emmy.
  • Sam's new library.  Wow, that's vast.
  • How is that chick moving Bran around now?  She's no doorstop.
  • Bronn.  We don't see NEARLY enough of him.
  • The wildfyre scene - I thought they would have played in up more; made it bigger.
  • Knew Tommen was going to take the express elevator to the street.
  • That Sister is in for a bad, bad time.  The Mountain has been saving it up for a long time.
 
I really don't see how anyone could not enjoy that finale. It was so good.  The music set to the build up of Kings Landing exploding was really well done. 

 
When Bronn is talking to Jamie about all the girls eyeing him, the first one we see, isn't it Arya in her new face?  If so, maybe she had plans to get Jamie too, but couldn't get close enough.

 
Any chance that Lolly Mormont ends up with Robin Arryn?  They are about the same age, but she would probably eat him for breakfast.  Too bad Rickon is gone.

 
When Bronn is talking to Jamie about all the girls eyeing him, the first one we see, isn't it Arya in her new face?  If so, maybe she had plans to get Jamie too, but couldn't get close enough.
Right, same girl. Jaime's fidelity may have saved him there, he also seemed to be on to her somewhat. He's wary and is not an easy mark.

 
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That person obviously saw the episode in advance. They threw in a couple of feints, but they obviously saw it imo.
Some of it they could have guessed, but others like "Nothing much here - Varys secures Dorne, and maybe Lady Olenna as allies for Daenerys".

  No f'Ing way. 

 
That'd be my only "complaint" (and its not a complaint). The "previously on Game of Thrones" clips essentially telegraph what's coming.

Now, if SF predicted Arya was going to feed Walder Frey his sons, that would have been somthin

 
which part is so unpredictable?
What do you mean?  The exact part I quoted. There was no indication ever where Varys was going. Nobody knew Olenna was traveling to Dorne because no one knew it would be in response to her grandkids getting roasted.  You would have had to have seen the first part of the episode to even postulate that she would be in Dorne. 

 
What do you mean?  The exact part I quoted. There was no indication ever where Varys was going. Nobody knew Olenna was traveling to Dorne because no one knew it would be in response to her grandkids getting roasted.  You would have had to have seen the first part of the episode to even postulate that she would be in Dorne. 
How about "predicting" Tommen would jump out of a window?

 
The shot where Tommen watches the Sept burn then walks away - the framing of that shot (centered on burning building - symmetrical with the columns and intricate shades of the castle's windows) and it stayed there for like 5 seconds - I honestly thought my hbogo froze... You never see cinematic pacing like that in Tv shows. 

 
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The shot where Tommen way holes the Sept burn then walks away - the framing of that shot (centered on burning building - symmetrical with the columns and intricate shades of the castle's windows) and it stayed there for like 5 seconds - I honestly thought my hbogo froze... You never see cinematic pacing like that in Tv shows.
:goodposting:

 
How about "predicting" Tommen would jump out of a window?
He could have just said "Tommen dies" or even got away with "Tommen commits suicide."  Instead we get basically a scene for scene narration of what happened including the oddly specific "Tommen jumping out of a window."  

Not only did he see it, I think he practically wanted everyone to know he had seen it. 

 
And I guess Cersei sent Jaime away so she could be free to do what she needed (wanted) to do in the first place. Otoh I guess trial by combat was Plan A, but Jaime was a vital part of protecting their son. Him not being around greatly increased the chance of something disastrous happening to him.

 
And I guess Cersei sent Jaime away so she could be free to do what she needed (wanted) to do in the first place. Otoh I guess trial by combat was Plan A, but Jaime was a vital part of protecting their son. Him not being around greatly increased the chance of something disastrous happening to him.
That makes sense. She knows how Jamie feels about using wildfire to kill as many people as possible. Cersei basically had her Mad King moment. Last time it happened is when Jamie got his nickname so having him around wasn't in Cersei's best interests since it could've muddied up her plan.   

 
I really don't see how anyone could not enjoy that finale. It was so good.  The music set to the build up of Kings Landing exploding was really well done. 
I kept thinking, this music should be annoying me, but it worked.  The pace of the last 2 episodes was absolutely perfect.

 

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