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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (2 Viewers)

so who is on team Cersei now....Tarly and the Reach. Euron and Greyjoy fleet.... Lannisters.

Can we assume that Dorne is just gonna be left behind in the story? No real key players there.

The North and the Vale seem combined.

Danny still has the Dothraki plus some of Greyjoy fleet two. The unsullied stuck in Casterly Rock. 

Loved Little fingers point...keep your eyes on everyone and think about anything...they need to abandon the north...let the white walkers have it.

 
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Great episode.  Ceresi be Cerseing. 

Perfect emotion in it, from Ellaria Sand's pain and Cerseis glee, to the actual tension between Jon and Dany and to Jamie, who went from victor to victim in about 50 words from a helpless old lady.  

 
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bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
so who is on team Cersei now....Tarly and the Reach. Euron and Greyjoy fleet.... Lannisters.

Can we assume that Dorne is just gonna be left behind in the story? No real key players there.

The North and the Vale seem combined.

Danny still has the Dothraki plus some of Greyjoy fleet two. The unsullied stuck in Casterly Rock. 
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also: Lannisters just picked up a boat-ton of gold. 

 
As soon as Cersei told the banker her debt will be paid in full I knew everything was going to wrong for Dany.  

Jon and Tyrion on the cliff were awesome too.

Man this was a good episode.

 
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What a lot packed into one hour.

Jon meets Dani.

Sansa reunited with Bran,

Euron returns to KL victorious with plans for... the bum?!?

Casterly rock falls.

Highgarden falls.

Cersei's revenge on the Martells.

Sir Jorah cured.

Sam earns respect (somewhat).

Lady Olenna dies.

The tables get turned on Tyrion's plans.

The Lannisters get the ability to pay their debts.

Ha there been a more content packed episode?

 
So do Jaime and Cersei offer an olive branch to Tyrion?  That'd have to mess with his mind.  And yeah, if Jorah returns, it'd be a good time for Tyrion to run home.

 
At what point and after how many humiliating surprise defeats does Dany wonder if Tyrion and Varys are plants from the Lannisters? She knows nothing about their relationships with Cersai except what they've told her and they're useless right now. 

 
James Bond said:
What a lot packed into one hour.

Jon meets Dani.

Sansa reunited with Bran,

Euron returns to KL victorious with plans for... the bum?!?

Casterly rock falls.

Highgarden falls.

Cersei's revenge on the Martells.

Sir Jorah cured.

Sam earns respect (somewhat).

Lady Olenna dies.

The tables get turned on Tyrion's plans.

The Lannisters get the ability to pay their debts.

Ha there been a more content packed episode?
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you forgot.....Oh and tell Cersei I killed YOUR SON....

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
At what point and after how many humiliating surprise defeats does Dany wonder if Tyrion and Varys are plants from the Lannisters? She knows nothing about their relationships with Cersai except what they've told her and they're useless right now. 
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yeah sure seems like Varys has no info right now...U know that Qyburn took his kings landing birds....kind of errie how red witch told him hes going to die in that land...

 
mr roboto said:
Sorry, someone remind me of Jorah's story again?  I remember him with Dany.  But before that I can't. 
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that pretty much inferred he starts in Essos with Danny.

His back story is that he was the head of house mourmount...but ned stark was going to kill him for selling slaves....he had a high priced wife who liked nice expensive things...most of this was inferred on the show...more content in the books.

 
New theory - the point of this show is that female relatives are the cause of almost all of the pain and suffering in the world. 

 
Quick question:

Does Jon know that Bran is alive?  

I thought Jon thought he was dead but when Dany asked if Jon had lost 2 brothers also he just nodded instead of saying "I have lost 3"

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
see that part of the episode kinda fell flat for me...I'm the three eyed raven....what does that mean??? I see everything...I'm going to talk about your weddings....
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How come Sansa wasn't like hey yo what's with the tree with the sad face? That's kinda weird isn't it? 

 
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bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
see that part of the episode kinda fell flat for me...I'm the three eyed raven....what does that mean??? I see everything...I'm going to talk about your weddings....
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I thought his comment pretty much was exactly what Littlefinger said to her right before Bran arrived. Didn't seem to make much of an impact on Sansa, however.

 
tri-man 47 said:
So do Jaime and Cersei offer an olive branch to Tyrion?  That'd have to mess with his mind.  And yeah, if Jorah returns, it'd be a good time for Tyrion to run home.
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Hey we are really sorry about falsely accusing you of killing geoffrey and sentencing you to death after s rigged trial, using the mountain in trial by combat, buying your best friend's loyalty so he wouldn't fight for you, making the love of your life  testify against you to rip your heart out, you know,  all that stuff Honest mistake.  Bygones really. Like when you shot our dad on the toilet with our dead son's crossbow, then fled Westeros and became trusted advisor to our greatest enemy, took our family's home by force and brought her dragons and armies to our doorstep.  Really a big misunderstanding.  What I'm trying to say is, you can trust us now, because we know that one of those things wasn't true.  

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
At what point and after how many humiliating surprise defeats does Dany wonder if Tyrion and Varys are plants from the Lannisters? She knows nothing about their relationships with Cersai except what they've told her and they're useless right now. 
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Was thinking same thing after this last blown move she may start believing he's a double agent. Wouldn't blame her, her feared army is a mess after two episodes and they have super spears for the dragons. She's starting to look like the Falcons in the second half. 

 
bostonfred said:
Hey we are really sorry about falsely accusing you of killing geoffrey and sentencing you to death after s rigged trial, using the mountain in trial by combat, buying your best friend's loyalty so he wouldn't fight for you, making the love of your life  testify against you to rip your heart out, you know,  all that stuff Honest mistake.  Bygones really. Like when you shot our dad on the toilet with our dead son's crossbow, then fled Westeros and became trusted advisor to our greatest enemy, took our family's home by force and brought her dragons and armies to our doorstep.  Really a big misunderstanding.  What I'm trying to say is, you can trust us now, because we know that one of those things wasn't true.  
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Exactly.   :unsure:  "Bygones ..."

 
bostonfred said:
Hey we are really sorry about falsely accusing you of killing geoffrey and sentencing you to death after s rigged trial, using the mountain in trial by combat, buying your best friend's loyalty so he wouldn't fight for you, making the love of your life  testify against you to rip your heart out, you know,  all that stuff Honest mistake.  Bygones really. Like when you shot our dad on the toilet with our dead son's crossbow, then fled Westeros and became trusted advisor to our greatest enemy, took our family's home by force and brought her dragons and armies to our doorstep.  Really a big misunderstanding.  What I'm trying to say is, you can trust us now, because we know that one of those things wasn't true.  
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we might have missed the turning point...the only person in Tyrions family to have his back is Jamie...now that the Old Lady revealed she killed Joffery...I think somehow Jamie turns like Vader in return of the Jedi

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
see that part of the episode kinda fell flat for me...I'm the three eyed raven....what does that mean??? I see everything...I'm going to talk about your weddings....
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He was nearly emotionless. He's seen too much of the past and present to be a normal human now, he really is becoming the Three Eyed Raven. I think he was trying to prove he's got powers while also sincerely regretting what happened to her...but he's like levels removed from his own emotions now. He's playing a bigger game and isn't normal anymore. 

 
Yankee23Fan said:
The whole point of this war is to kill as many soldiers as possible so there is none left to face the white walkers.
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It's a metaphor for the world sitting idly by while the earth is about to be consumed by the fire and ice of climate change which is the real existential threat, and we're too busy worrying about who is temporarily in power. The dragons half a world away? China. The United kingdom's of America, led by their British accented first family and a band of northerners who rebelled because they'll know no king but the king of the north, who they elected. I mean it's all so heavy handed.  Wake up people. Winter is coming 

 
Capella said:
How come Sansa wasn't like hey yo what's with the tree with the sad face? That's kinda weird isn't it?
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That tree has always been on the Winterfell grounds. We've seen Starks hang out by it in pretty much every season, because they still worship the old gods. We've even seen Sansa out there as recently as last season when she rejected Littlefinger. We even got a whole scene early on in the series with Catlin Stark talking about how strange it was for her to move North as Ned's wife while he was off to war and even the gods in the North were different. 

 
bostonfred said:
It's a metaphor for the world sitting idly by while the earth is about to be consumed by the fire and ice of climate change which is the real existential threat, and we're too busy worrying about who is temporarily in power. The dragons half a world away? China. The United kingdom's of America, led by their British accented first family and a band of northerners who rebelled because they'll know no king but the king of the north, who they elected. I mean it's all so heavy handed.  Wake up people. Winter is coming 
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I see what you did there.

 
bostonfred said:
It's a metaphor for the world sitting idly by while the earth is about to be consumed by the fire and ice of climate change which is the real existential threat, and we're too busy worrying about who is temporarily in power. The dragons half a world away? China. The United kingdom's of America, led by their British accented first family and a band of northerners who rebelled because they'll know no king but the king of the north, who they elected. I mean it's all so heavy handed.  Wake up people. Winter is coming 
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Should this be moved to the political forum?

 
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