Koya
Footballguy
I definitely noticed and thought that he had / has to have something up his sleeve - er, cloak
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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (4 Viewers)
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
One of the best scenes of the show:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ucB4UrhI-3w
Also, not the show to assume someone is too important to die.
Rowdy Roddy Piper was my favorite wrestler.
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bostonfred
Footballguy
The wall was the least interesting part of the show for a long while. That's changed .
The dragons are the least interesting part of the show so far. I think we all agree that will change.
Arya is a really interesting character doing really boring things. Again, that's probably going to change.
And so on.
The dragons are the least interesting part of the show so far. I think we all agree that will change.
Arya is a really interesting character doing really boring things. Again, that's probably going to change.
And so on.
gump
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
One of the show's conventions is that its willing to upend convention. Ned, the presumptive hero, gets it early on. People do nasty things and don't necessarily ever get their just desserts, etc.
Which makes me wonder if the inevitable "Dany comes to Westeros and saves the land with her dragons" is really that inevitable. Maybe she bails on the plan and stays in Essos, deciding not to over-extend herself. Maybe her plan to "break the wheel" doesn't come off, or fails spectacularly.
Maybe the White Walkers never actually do get past the wall. Maybe Tyrion gets knifed. Maybe Wun Wun swims all the way to Dorne. Benioff/Weiss have now gone past the books (from what I understand), but I think they're still working off of Martin's blueprint as to where things end up.
Which makes me wonder if the inevitable "Dany comes to Westeros and saves the land with her dragons" is really that inevitable. Maybe she bails on the plan and stays in Essos, deciding not to over-extend herself. Maybe her plan to "break the wheel" doesn't come off, or fails spectacularly.
Maybe the White Walkers never actually do get past the wall. Maybe Tyrion gets knifed. Maybe Wun Wun swims all the way to Dorne. Benioff/Weiss have now gone past the books (from what I understand), but I think they're still working off of Martin's blueprint as to where things end up.
Koya
Footballguy
Been thinking about your first statement...
What if the end result is the end of Thrones? The evolution to the people overthrowing the leaders... sparked by freed slaves and enabled by power structures that are at best splintered, if not broken.
Liberté, égalité, fraternité!!!
PIK95
Footballguy
Arya is my favorite character even though she kinda bites on the show.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Who better to lead it than a man who rose from nothing...aka Littlefinger? Littlefinger is in the process of breaking the wheel.
No, she was given the poison after she first met the thin man and poured vinegar on his oysters. We never saw her go back and kill him.
Watched it again with nothing on tonight and I think you are making something out of nothing. He was sitting there and John grabbed him as he jumped in the boat and the guy pulled the line off the post so they could leave. I think because he has his back to us while we see the John et al looking at the WW king it may appear to be something, but he acts like a normal person. I don't think wights have the ability to have something up their sleeve. IMHO, that person was no one.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
You need more bags than just the one.I just only now realized that Littlefinger was Carcetti in 'The Wire'...
higgins
Footballguy
You need more bags than just the one.
RUSF18
Footballguy
Wait until you figure out who plays Baelish.You need more bags than just the one.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Am i the only one who found the Wildling woman killed by the kids kinda hot?
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Yeah, I let that one go when I replied. It did, however, make me more confident that the guy in the boat with the cloak that undid the line at the dock was nothing.vanilla
Synthesizer
Footballguy
The guy in the cloak seemed out of place since there was a zombie massacre going on right behind him but he wasn't even looking back at it. Ho hum, just going to undock now.
Hot Diggity Dog
Footballguy
Littlefinger is in the process of getting a spoke on the wheel, he has no intention of creating a better world for the common folk. See the episode titled"the ladder" .
The cloaked guy on the boat was very odd. Not sure if that was something or nothing.
Betting the walkers break the wheel.
The cloaked guy on the boat was very odd. Not sure if that was something or nothing.
Betting the walkers break the wheel.
T J
Footballguy
Not for offering life insurance per se, but the many faced God suggested that the Thin Man doesn't necessarily pay out to the families of the captains who died and are therefore entitled to the insurance proceeds.
Otis
Footballguy
This. They actually didn't focus on him at all, it's like they were hiding him in the scene but leaving him there just to create tension. It worked for me. I was certain he was going to shank Jon Snow. It was an awesome ending.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I re watched again last night and still have no idea what they're talking about. If it's the lifeless mannequin who's sitting with his back turned in the boat, I didn't notice any particular focus or oddity about him.
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I really didn't notice anything odd either. I remember seeing him because they focused on John Snow looking back. After rewatching, he acts like a normal boat guy and does pull the rope off of the docks as soon as John grabs his shoulder to get him going, so I'm pretty sure he isn't a wight in hiding. The cloak was probably more to hide the guy to make sure the focus was on John/Tormund. I think with Bronn's cut, people are looking for things that aren't there.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Agreed. Same with somebody who mentioned the Giant "grabbing at his neck". He didn't touch his neck , he just wiped his brow as he's getting in the water.
I'm not even remotely suggesting people should stop speculating, as that most if the fun, just giving my impressions of what I saw the second watch.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
People here see things that aren't there and then miss whole plot points and forget characters.
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dhockster
Footballguy
I, personally, think you could have picked a better villain to admire. Cersei has no forethought, her first instinct is to kill anyone who objects to what she wants, and she thinks because she is the King's mother, she is entitled to everything. Littlefinger is a villain more to be admired because he does everything under the radar and he gets people to do what he wants with no real power to control them. In the game of thrones, Littlefinger is playing chess, Cersei is playing checkers.timschochet said:Why?I don't get why people keep saying this. Is our culture become so rigid that we're not allowed to have villains as our favorite characters?"Good said:I can certainly understand how one think Cersei's compelling -- I agree, and much moreso than Ramsay or what have you -- but using the phrase "my favorite character" is just pure
This is fiction. Those aren't real people being killed. I can root for the bad guy if I want. Cersei is a scheming ##### and if I were living in Westeros I strongly doubt that I would be on her "side". But I'm not living there; I'm a viewer of a soap opera and she is my favorite character and I want her to win and crush all her enemies. What's wrong with that?
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Agree completely. While I admired the actress in 300 (and that Terminator TV series) very much, that has nothing to do with admiring her character. How could Cersei not see that her sins wouldn't be ignored by the High Sparrow when someone who knows them is his underling? Not much foresight there at all and it was pretty obvious to me that it was going to bite her in the ###. I think she is a solid actress playing the part well, but I haven't ever thought of her as a great character.I, personally, think you could have picked a better villain to admire. Cersei has no forethought, her first instinct is to kill anyone who objects to what she wants, and she thinks because she is the queens mother, she is entitled to everything. Littlefinger is a villain more to be admired because he does everything under the radar and he gets people to do what he wants with no real power to control them. In the game of thrones, Littlefinger is playing chess, Cersei is playing checkers.timschochet said:Why?I don't get why people keep saying this. Is our culture become so rigid that we're not allowed to have villains as our favorite characters?"Good said:I can certainly understand how one think Cersei's compelling -- I agree, and much moreso than Ramsay or what have you -- but using the phrase "my favorite character" is just pure
This is fiction. Those aren't real people being killed. I can root for the bad guy if I want. Cersei is a scheming ##### and if I were living in Westeros I strongly doubt that I would be on her "side". But I'm not living there; I'm a viewer of a soap opera and she is my favorite character and I want her to win and crush all her enemies. What's wrong with that?
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shadyridr
Footballguy
Nobody is speculating something is going to happen with that guy in the next episode. A few of us found it very odd and it stood out to us WHILE WE WERE WATCHING and we thought something would happen AT THE VERY END OF THE EPISODE. That's all. When it didn't that was the end of any "speculation".
timschochet
Footballguy
Hey to each their own. Littlefinger is certainly ten times as smart as Cersei. He's also, for me, ten times less interesting. Cersei is ruled by her passions, which makes her much more compelling.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
You didn't notice anything, other than the fact that he seems completely unfazed by the thousand zombies right behind him while he has the boat docked?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
You guys are probably making a huge deal out of some extra who had to hide some equipment or something.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Yeah WE are the one's who made a huge deal about something in this thread.
You guys are probably making a huge deal out of some extra who had to hide some equipment or something.
Deepster
Footballguy
Maybe she figured that being the one who gave the High Sparrow the leash to go out and impose his brand of "justice" got her a free pass.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
It does figure that they have 20mins of CGI zombies and everybody gets their GoT boners back. 
Joking aside, I am not usually one to get caught up stuff like that, but I even enjoyed that last battle. Good times. I still think the other plots could have moved more, and that overall this season has been a dud, but gives me hope that it is ramping up.
I am not a huge fan of the walking skeletons, but those kids were creepy as hell. Brought me back to that great opening scene of the very first episode. I am still not sure WTF they are doing with the zombie hoards, as it seems they are slightly different every time (unless I am missing something). We see the creepy things in the first episode, then the animated dead bodies at the wall that attacked the commander, then we see a slow moving army seemingly heading toward the wall, then the dude with Craster's son, then independant skeleton zombies way north attacking Bran, now a mixed bag of an army controlled by the White Walkers that look nothing like what Sam encountered. Just expecting them to be flying by the time we see them next.
Joking aside, I am not usually one to get caught up stuff like that, but I even enjoyed that last battle. Good times. I still think the other plots could have moved more, and that overall this season has been a dud, but gives me hope that it is ramping up.
I am not a huge fan of the walking skeletons, but those kids were creepy as hell. Brought me back to that great opening scene of the very first episode. I am still not sure WTF they are doing with the zombie hoards, as it seems they are slightly different every time (unless I am missing something). We see the creepy things in the first episode, then the animated dead bodies at the wall that attacked the commander, then we see a slow moving army seemingly heading toward the wall, then the dude with Craster's son, then independant skeleton zombies way north attacking Bran, now a mixed bag of an army controlled by the White Walkers that look nothing like what Sam encountered. Just expecting them to be flying by the time we see them next.
joey
Footballguy
He's called "an extra". Extras are not known for their acting chops and are usually told to stay out of the way of the real action and star actors. That whole boat was filled with dudes who, in real life, would be rowing their asses off to get away from the zombie apocalypse. But the film makers wanted that scene to be slow and calm to build the tension and draw it out. That. Is. All.You didn't notice anything, other than the fact that he seems completely unfazed by the thousand zombies right behind him while he has the boat docked?
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
How would Tyrion/Dany's meeting have been different if Selmy was still alive? He could have identified him as Tyrion and saved those first few minutes of "how do I know you're really Tyrion", but would he have advised that she trust him?
It worked out nicely for Tyrion that the advisor position had just become open for Dany and I wonder what would have happened to him if it hadn't.
It worked out nicely for Tyrion that the advisor position had just become open for Dany and I wonder what would have happened to him if it hadn't.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I didn't think any of us were making a big deal out of anything. We're just discussing the series.
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