Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (3 Viewers)

[Northern Voice]

were the dudes rowing all the other boats cloaked like that? Keeping warm at the shore? I tend to think there's a reason for everything in this show and likely not a completely random extra.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Also, did the White Walkers get upgraded battle outfits or something?

 

[Mile High]

It does figure that they have 20mins of CGI zombies and everybody gets their GoT boners back.

Joking aside, I am not usually one to get caught up stuff like that, but I even enjoyed that last battle. Good times. I still think the other plots could have moved more, and that overall this season has been a dud, but gives me hope that it is ramping up.

I am not a huge fan of the walking skeletons, but those kids were creepy as hell. Brought me back to that great opening scene of the very first episode. I am still not sure WTF they are doing with the zombie hoards, as it seems they are slightly different every time (unless I am missing something). We see the creepy things in the first episode, then the animated dead bodies at the wall that attacked the commander, then we see a slow moving army seemingly heading toward the wall, then the dude with Craster's son, then independant skeleton zombies way north attacking Bran, now a mixed bag of an army controlled by the White Walkers that look nothing like what Sam encountered. Just expecting them to be flying by the time we see them next.

The dude with Craters son was the same dude on the dock at the end. Know you guys don't want any back story but there's nonspoiler info out there on the WW and the undead.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I didn't even notice a random dude doing nothing at the end.

I re watched again last night and still have no idea what they're talking about. If it's the lifeless mannequin who's sitting with his back turned in the boat, I didn't notice any particular focus or oddity about him.

You didn't notice anything, other than the fact that he seems completely unfazed by the thousand zombies right behind him while he has the boat docked?

Yeah, he seemed super focused on untying some ropes or something...gave no ####s about wights.

Watching as they float (for some reason not rowing) away, looks like there's a dude in a cloak sitting on either end - maybe for balance?

 

[KarmaPolice]

It does figure that they have 20mins of CGI zombies and everybody gets their GoT boners back.

Joking aside, I am not usually one to get caught up stuff like that, but I even enjoyed that last battle. Good times. I still think the other plots could have moved more, and that overall this season has been a dud, but gives me hope that it is ramping up.

I am not a huge fan of the walking skeletons, but those kids were creepy as hell. Brought me back to that great opening scene of the very first episode. I am still not sure WTF they are doing with the zombie hoards, as it seems they are slightly different every time (unless I am missing something). We see the creepy things in the first episode, then the animated dead bodies at the wall that attacked the commander, then we see a slow moving army seemingly heading toward the wall, then the dude with Craster's son, then independant skeleton zombies way north attacking Bran, now a mixed bag of an army controlled by the White Walkers that look nothing like what Sam encountered. Just expecting them to be flying by the time we see them next.

The dude with Craters son was the same dude on the dock at the end. Know you guys don't want any back story but there's nonspoiler info out there on the WW and the undead.

Didn't realize he was the same. Still - just seems like they are different each time we encounter them. Not sure if that is planned and they are just showing us that there are a few different types, or they didn't have budget for certain things or what.

 

[stbugs]

I didn't even notice a random dude doing nothing at the end.

I really didn't notice anything odd either. I remember seeing him because they focused on John Snow looking back. After rewatching, he acts like a normal boat guy and does pull the rope off of the docks as soon as John grabs his shoulder to get him going, so I'm pretty sure he isn't a wight in hiding. The cloak was probably more to hide the guy to make sure the focus was on John/Tormund. I think with Bronn's cut, people are looking for things that aren't there.

Nobody is speculating something is going to happen with that guy in the next episode. A few of us found it very odd and it stood out to us WHILE WE WERE WATCHING and we thought something would happen AT THE VERY END OF THE EPISODE. That's all. When it didn't that was the end of any "speculation".

Relax, there were a lot of people commenting on it. I am just commenting back that I think it was much a do about nothing, but that I think with Bronn's cut that people are looking more carefully. I went back and watched it again since I saw all the comments. Yes, the guy was pretty still and had a cloak on, but based on his reaction to John jumping in the boat (he immediately goes into action and gets the rope off the dock), I don't think there was any hidden danger. I just think they told the guys on the boat that weren't the key people to be still so everyone focuses on John/Tormund looking back in terror as they realize the WW army just grew by thousands and how ####ed they really are.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Speaking of Arya...

Should we presume that the poison was in the Vanilla she poured and, if so, they certainly focused on some of it spilling over - perhaps much ado about nothing, but curious none the less.

vanilla

I thought he said vanilla too

 

[TenTimes]

Thin man offers life insurance and needs to be killed, is that right?

Not for offering life insurance per se, but the many faced God suggested that the Thin Man doesn't necessarily pay out to the families of the captains who died and are therefore entitled to the insurance proceeds.

Thanks, that's the part I missed.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Didn't realize he was the same. Still - just seems like they are different each time we encounter them. Not sure if that is planned and they are just showing us that there are a few different types, or they didn't have budget for certain things or what.

The white walkers are the ones standing up on the hill guiding the action, and the one Jon snow fought in the burning building. They can shatter normal blades, and they control the zombies (which some people are calling wights). The white walkers are intelligent and recruit new white walkers from human babies. That's what the guy with all the daughters was doing - ####### his young daughters, them if they had a son, giving it up to the white walkers.

The regular zombies/wights are more intelligent than regular movie zombies. They knew to attack the wooden wall and the kids knew to stop and scope out the new wildling lady before attacking her. But the white walkers can control them, like when they sent a bunch over the cliff.

When a regular person dies up north of the wall they can become a zombie unless you burn their bodies. Not everyone who dies becomes a zombie but it's better to burn all the bodies. The zombies are harder to kill than regular people but can be burned to death and it seems like chopping their heads off or crushing then works. Falling from a cliff or having no guts didn't seem to bother them.

 

[shuke]

I didn't even notice a random dude doing nothing at the end.

I re watched again last night and still have no idea what they're talking about. If it's the lifeless mannequin who's sitting with his back turned in the boat, I didn't notice any particular focus or oddity about him.

You didn't notice anything, other than the fact that he seems completely unfazed by the thousand zombies right behind him while he has the boat docked?

He's called "an extra". Extras are not known for their acting chops and are usually told to stay out of the way of the real action and star actors. That whole boat was filled with dudes who, in real life, would be rowing their asses off to get away from the zombie apocalypse. But the film makers wanted that scene to be slow and calm to build the tension and draw it out. That. Is. All.

Just. Pointing. Out. That. It. Was. Noticeable.

Isn't. This. Annoying?

 

[stbugs]

Speaking of Arya...

Should we presume that the poison was in the Vanilla she poured and, if so, they certainly focused on some of it spilling over - perhaps much ado about nothing, but curious none the less.

vanilla

I thought he said vanilla too

Not making fun of you in the least, but it's so funny how people can watch the same show and see two completely different things. Did hearing vanilla throw you off, i.e. were you thinking WTF did that guy want vanilla?

 

[stbugs]

I didn't even notice a random dude doing nothing at the end.

I re watched again last night and still have no idea what they're talking about. If it's the lifeless mannequin who's sitting with his back turned in the boat, I didn't notice any particular focus or oddity about him.

You didn't notice anything, other than the fact that he seems completely unfazed by the thousand zombies right behind him while he has the boat docked?

He's called "an extra". Extras are not known for their acting chops and are usually told to stay out of the way of the real action and star actors. That whole boat was filled with dudes who, in real life, would be rowing their asses off to get away from the zombie apocalypse. But the film makers wanted that scene to be slow and calm to build the tension and draw it out. That. Is. All.

Just. Pointing. Out. That. It. Was. Noticeable.

Isn't. This. Annoying?

Not really, sort of endearing when you do it.

 

[shuke]

It does figure that they have 20mins of CGI zombies and everybody gets their GoT boners back.

Joking aside, I am not usually one to get caught up stuff like that, but I even enjoyed that last battle. Good times. I still think the other plots could have moved more, and that overall this season has been a dud, but gives me hope that it is ramping up.

I am not a huge fan of the walking skeletons, but those kids were creepy as hell. Brought me back to that great opening scene of the very first episode. I am still not sure WTF they are doing with the zombie hoards, as it seems they are slightly different every time (unless I am missing something). We see the creepy things in the first episode, then the animated dead bodies at the wall that attacked the commander, then we see a slow moving army seemingly heading toward the wall, then the dude with Craster's son, then independant skeleton zombies way north attacking Bran, now a mixed bag of an army controlled by the White Walkers that look nothing like what Sam encountered. Just expecting them to be flying by the time we see them next.

The dude with Craters son was the same dude on the dock at the end. Know you guys don't want any back story but there's nonspoiler info out there on the WW and the undead.

Didn't realize he was the same. Still - just seems like they are different each time we encounter them. Not sure if that is planned and they are just showing us that there are a few different types, or they didn't have budget for certain things or what.

The white walkers have looked the same since the beginning.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Speaking of Arya...

Should we presume that the poison was in the Vanilla she poured and, if so, they certainly focused on some of it spilling over - perhaps much ado about nothing, but curious none the less.

vanilla

I thought he said vanilla too

Not making fun of you in the least, but it's so funny how people can watch the same show and see two completely different things. Did hearing vanilla throw you off, i.e. were you thinking WTF did that guy want vanilla?

It seemed odd but I figured maybe that's how they rolled in Westeros

 

[shadyridr]

Vanilla & Oysters. yum

 

[Gr00vus]

Hey to each their own. Littlefinger is certainly ten times as smart as Cersei. He's also, for me, ten times less interesting. Cersei is ruled by her passions, which makes her much more compelling.

Big fan of the sibling incest, are you?

 

[stbugs]

It does figure that they have 20mins of CGI zombies and everybody gets their GoT boners back.

Joking aside, I am not usually one to get caught up stuff like that, but I even enjoyed that last battle. Good times. I still think the other plots could have moved more, and that overall this season has been a dud, but gives me hope that it is ramping up.

I am not a huge fan of the walking skeletons, but those kids were creepy as hell. Brought me back to that great opening scene of the very first episode. I am still not sure WTF they are doing with the zombie hoards, as it seems they are slightly different every time (unless I am missing something). We see the creepy things in the first episode, then the animated dead bodies at the wall that attacked the commander, then we see a slow moving army seemingly heading toward the wall, then the dude with Craster's son, then independant skeleton zombies way north attacking Bran, now a mixed bag of an army controlled by the White Walkers that look nothing like what Sam encountered. Just expecting them to be flying by the time we see them next.

The dude with Craters son was the same dude on the dock at the end. Know you guys don't want any back story but there's nonspoiler info out there on the WW and the undead.

Didn't realize he was the same. Still - just seems like they are different each time we encounter them. Not sure if that is planned and they are just showing us that there are a few different types, or they didn't have budget for certain things or what.

The white walkers have looked the same since the beginning.

Agreed. I don't think everyone noticed the difference between the wights/zombies and the WWs until we saw the king turn Crastor's son. I can see how people got a little confused, but looking back everything is pretty consistent. Some of the wights may have been a bit overzealous in the last episode, but still pretty consistent overall.

 

[Spin]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

No one cares about what is going on in Dorne.. right?

I think someone else mentioned it earlier, but I see Arya's storyline coming down to a choice between killing the "gambler" or Meryn Trant with the poison when she finds him, signaling if she really is ready to leave her past behind.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I will admit, I thought he said vanilla at first too.

Rewatched the episode and I enjoyed just about every part of it. Really want more Dany and Tyrion screen time. They seem like they can be awesome together.

 

[Spin]

I will admit, I thought he said vanilla at first too.

Rewatched the episode and I enjoyed just about every part of it. Really want more Dany and Tyrion screen time. They seem like they can be awesome together.

Agreed, some really good back and forth between them. Most interested I've been in Daeny since she stopped getting naked.

 

[Gr00vus]

I will admit, I thought he said vanilla at first too.

Rewatched the episode and I enjoyed just about every part of it. Really want more Dany and Tyrion screen time. They seem like they can be awesome together.

It was an excellent episode all the way around. The Sansa/Reek scene was great too. You can see the wheels turning in her head, hope, disbelief, fear. Really good stuff. Alfie Allen isn't getting enough credit for the job he's done playing Theon/Reek over the course of the series.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

If Coldplay knows that Jon Snow has a sword that can murk one of his people, why didn't he send wights into the water to get them? Zombies can go in water, right?

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I will admit, I thought he said vanilla at first too.

Rewatched the episode and I enjoyed just about every part of it. Really want more Dany and Tyrion screen time. They seem like they can be awesome together.

It was an excellent episode all the way around. The Sansa/Reek scene was great too. You can see the wheels turning in her head, hope, disbelief, fear. Really good stuff. Alfie Allen isn't getting enough credit for the job he's done playing Theon/Reek over the course of the series.

This is very true. For as much as we had to the go around with what happened to Sansa in that rape scene, Alfie nailed it and could very well be up for an award for that last 5 minutes in and of itself. You saw every manifestation of emotion in his reaction to what was happening to her, and since then his scenes have been brilliant. That kind of character can become cartoonish but he has added almost a sense honor to it because you can see his eyes changing emotion and fighting between who he is and was in his scenes now.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

Why does she have to admit that Tommen isn't Robert's? Isn't the only dirt they have on her that she slept with Lancel. I don't think Lancel knows about her and Jamie.

 

[KarmaPolice]

It does figure that they have 20mins of CGI zombies and everybody gets their GoT boners back.

Joking aside, I am not usually one to get caught up stuff like that, but I even enjoyed that last battle. Good times. I still think the other plots could have moved more, and that overall this season has been a dud, but gives me hope that it is ramping up.

I am not a huge fan of the walking skeletons, but those kids were creepy as hell. Brought me back to that great opening scene of the very first episode. I am still not sure WTF they are doing with the zombie hoards, as it seems they are slightly different every time (unless I am missing something). We see the creepy things in the first episode, then the animated dead bodies at the wall that attacked the commander, then we see a slow moving army seemingly heading toward the wall, then the dude with Craster's son, then independant skeleton zombies way north attacking Bran, now a mixed bag of an army controlled by the White Walkers that look nothing like what Sam encountered. Just expecting them to be flying by the time we see them next.

The dude with Craters son was the same dude on the dock at the end. Know you guys don't want any back story but there's nonspoiler info out there on the WW and the undead.

Didn't realize he was the same. Still - just seems like they are different each time we encounter them. Not sure if that is planned and they are just showing us that there are a few different types, or they didn't have budget for certain things or what.

The white walkers have looked the same since the beginning.

I think their outfits have changed, but not sure. More than the slow moving army that Sam encountered a few seasons ago <> what we saw Sunday.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

If Coldplay knows that Jon Snow has a sword that can murk one of his people, why didn't he send wights into the water to get them? Zombies can go in water, right?

He respects the game too much.

 

[Limp Ditka]

If Coldplay knows that Jon Snow has a sword that can murk one of his people, why didn't he send wights into the water to get them? Zombies can go in water, right?

I think those Zombies are up to something

Their necks in water

:roarin:

 

[gump]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

Why does she have to admit that Tommen isn't Robert's? Isn't the only dirt they have on her that she slept with Lancel. I don't think Lancel knows about her and Jamie.

The dirt is she slept with Lancel and she had Lancel drug Robert on the hunt. Nothing about Jamie and incest and Tommen.

She's going to confess...no question in my mind. They've set it up pretty clearly.

 

[Swing 51]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

Why does she have to admit that Tommen isn't Robert's? Isn't the only dirt they have on her that she slept with Lancel. I don't think Lancel knows about her and Jamie.

and she had Lancel drug Robert on the hunt.

 

[gump]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

Why does she have to admit that Tommen isn't Robert's? Isn't the only dirt they have on her that she slept with Lancel. I don't think Lancel knows about her and Jamie.

and she had Lancel drug Robert on the hunt.

 

[17seconds]

I heard vanilla too

http://www.ranker.com/list/game-of-thrones-fans-confuse-vanilla-and-vinegar/jtdesaulnier

 

[Homer J Simpson]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

Why does she have to admit that Tommen isn't Robert's? Isn't the only dirt they have on her that she slept with Lancel. I don't think Lancel knows about her and Jamie.

Incest was one of the charges against her.

 

[Sinn Fein]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

Why does she have to admit that Tommen isn't Robert's? Isn't the only dirt they have on her that she slept with Lancel. I don't think Lancel knows about her and Jamie.

Incest was one of the charges against her.

Lancel could be considered incest

 

[shuke]

If Coldplay knows that Jon Snow has a sword that can murk one of his people, why didn't he send wights into the water to get them? Zombies can go in water, right?

I think those Zombies are up to something

Their necks in water

:roarin:

 

[Homer J Simpson]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

Why does she have to admit that Tommen isn't Robert's? Isn't the only dirt they have on her that she slept with Lancel. I don't think Lancel knows about her and Jamie.

Incest was one of the charges against her.

Lancel could be considered incest

I guess. I just assumed cousin sex would be an acceptable practice in that world.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

Why does she have to admit that Tommen isn't Robert's? Isn't the only dirt they have on her that she slept with Lancel. I don't think Lancel knows about her and Jamie.

Incest was one of the charges against her.

Lancel could be considered incest

In the "previously on" scenes for the episode they showed her sleeping with Lancel so I think that's the direction they were pointing with the incest charge.

 

[mozzy84]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

Why does she have to admit that Tommen isn't Robert's? Isn't the only dirt they have on her that she slept with Lancel. I don't think Lancel knows about her and Jamie.

The dirt is she slept with Lancel and she had Lancel drug Robert on the hunt. Nothing about Jamie and incest and Tommen.

She's going to confess...no question in my mind. They've set it up pretty clearly.

yep that's what I am thinking too. I still think its dumb Tommen just doesn't round up all the dudes he has and take out the religious freaks. I miss Joffery, in what world does the kings mom and wife get thrown in the slammer?

 

[parrot]

No way Cersei confesses right? Because it would mean admitting Tommen isn't Robert's and ending her only claim to any kind of power she has left. So how does this play out? Her going to trial and that monster mountain is her champion? That has to be what that comment "The work continues" was meant for. Her crazy mountain fighter is almost ready to be her champion.

Why does she have to admit that Tommen isn't Robert's? Isn't the only dirt they have on her that she slept with Lancel. I don't think Lancel knows about her and Jamie.

Incest was one of the charges against her.

Lancel could be considered incest

I guess. I just assumed cousin sex would be an acceptable practice in that world.

Lancel called their relations "unnatural" earlier in the season.

 

[Sinn Fein]

confess to the sex with Lancel, trial by combat for the other charges.

 

[shadyridr]

Its definitely Lancel. That's the only proof they have of incest.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Its definitely Lancel. That's the only proof they have of incest.

Until Robert's ******* comes rowing ashore...

 

[Spin]

Its definitely Lancel. That's the only proof they have of incest.

Until Robert's ******* comes rowing ashore...

He's gotta be tired by now. He's been rowing for like 3 seasons.

 

[shadyridr]

Its definitely Lancel. That's the only proof they have of incest.

Until Robert's ******* comes rowing ashore...

WTF?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Its definitely Lancel. That's the only proof they have of incest.

Until Robert's ******* comes rowing ashore...

He's gotta be tired by now. He's been rowing for like 3 seasons.

Pretty sure he's the hooded guy rowing John Snow around

 

[Hawks64]

confess to the sex with Lancel, trial by combat for the other charges.

This isn't a typical trial. I don't think the Sparrows are cool with the whole trial by combat thing.

 

[CBusAlex]

Not making fun of you in the least, but it's so funny how people can watch the same show and see two completely different things. Did hearing vanilla throw you off, i.e. were you thinking WTF did that guy want vanilla?

It seemed odd but I figured maybe that's how they rolled in Westeros

Yeah. I mean, far be it from me to judge the taste of the dude buying shellfish from a homeless person.

 

[KarmaPolice]

confess to the sex with Lancel, trial by combat for the other charges.

This isn't a typical trial. I don't think the Sparrows are cool with the whole trial by combat thing.

Then why do we have a FrankenMountain?

 

[Sinn Fein]

confess to the sex with Lancel, trial by combat for the other charges.

This isn't a typical trial. I don't think the Sparrows are cool with the whole trial by combat thing.

There has to be some meaning to the maester talking about his work continuing to Cersei in the cell. The Mountain has been hinted at a couple of times this season - so I expect he still has a role to play. Maybe he just comes to bust her out of the dungeon.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Its definitely Lancel. That's the only proof they have of incest.

Until Robert's ******* comes rowing ashore...

He's gotta be tired by now. He's been rowing for like 3 seasons.

Pretty sure he's the hooded guy rowing John Snow around

 

[flapgreen]

I didn't even notice a random dude doing nothing at the end.

I re watched again last night and still have no idea what they're talking about. If it's the lifeless mannequin who's sitting with his back turned in the boat, I didn't notice any particular focus or oddity about him.

You didn't notice anything, other than the fact that he seems completely unfazed by the thousand zombies right behind him while he has the boat docked?

Yeah, he seemed super focused on untying some ropes or something...gave no ####s about wights.Watching as they float (for some reason not rowing) away, looks like there's a dude in a cloak sitting on either end - maybe for balance?