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[Drifter]

Robert loved Lyanna,loved her. He went to war over her. If Jon Snow was their love child he would want to be a big part of his life

Unless he thought the baby died or never knew about it in the first place.

Why would Ned hide that from him. Robert loved his sister. Ned was Robert's best friend. Robert would love Jon Snow like no other. Now if Jon Snow was Raegar's son from raping Lyanna and she was dead Robert would kill that baby himself and Ned knew that.

1. To protect Lyanna's "honor"

2. To avoid the disruption to the newfound peace and keep the baby away from the knowledge of the Lannisters (most likely)

3. Because he thought it was Raegar's rapechild.

 

[Quint]

are we gonna find out what's under that GDam sheet this week or not?!

 

[The Ref]

are we gonna find out what's under that GDam sheet this week or not?!

I kind of thought so. I figure she gets the death sentence and they send in uber mountain to get her.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Robert loved Lyanna,loved her. He went to war over her. If Jon Snow was their love child he would want to be a big part of his life

There's a scene when Robert and Ned are sitting at a table by a field on their way to KL. They discuss their whoring days. Robert says that Ned never said Jon Snow's mother looked like (he said her name was Wyla). Ned responds "Nor will I" very seriously. He doesn't want to tell Robert, probably because he would not approve.

Conversation turns immediately to a discussion of the Targaryens. Robert says they should kill Dany and her unborn baby. Ned makes the argument that it's not worth it. Conversation is heated.

I'm guessing the issues are linked and that Jon Snow's mother is a Targaryen. Dany is possibly his sister, maybe even a twin, making Ned her father.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

 

[Drifter]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

 

[Mile High]

Robert loved Lyanna,loved her. He went to war over her. If Jon Snow was their love child he would want to be a big part of his life

There's a scene when Robert and Ned are sitting at a table by a field on their way to KL. They discuss their whoring days. Robert says that Ned never said Jon Snow's mother looked like (he said her name was Wyla). Ned responds "Nor will I" very seriously. He doesn't want to tell Robert, probably because he would not approve.

Conversation turns immediately to a discussion of the Targaryens. Robert says they should kill Dany and her unborn baby. Ned makes the argument that it's not worth it. Conversation is heated.

I'm guessing the issues are linked and that Jon Snow's mother is a Targaryen. Dany is possibly his sister, maybe even a twin, making Ned her father.

So Ned was doing the Queen of the 7 kingdoms the Mad Kings wife?

 

[Mile High]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

 

[PatsWillWin]

It seems obvious that leeches is fine to kill individual people but we're talking about winning a battle here. Someone has to burn. I think other burnings were punishment ,since no king's blood was involved, garden variety human sacrifice. Just letting the Lord of light know your still on board.

I think that bran is going to warg into someone, besides Hodor when he finally becomes the old man down the road. The key being vicinity to those fancy tree.

I forget in the show, was Mance Rayder considered "king's blood?" Do you just have to declare yourself a king to qualify?

He was known as The King Beyond the Wall.

I know. That's why I asked the question. Did Melissandra talk about him as if he had "king's blood" when they sacrificed him? Or was just a run-of-the-mill burning of someone?

 

[PatsWillWin]

On Jon Snow's parentage, I agree it's more likely to be Rhaegar than Robert, if Lyanna Stark is Jon's mother.

Lyanna gets kidnapped and raped by Rhaegar. Ned's father and brother go to get her back and the Mad King kills them. Then Robert rebels and we know that lasted a year. Lyanna dies near the end of the rebellion. While it's possible for Jon to be Robert's kid, the timing would make it rough. Would those holding Lyanna for Rhaegar keep alive a child they thought to be Robert's?

And if the baby was Robert's, Ned would do the right thing and give him to Robert, even if the marriage to Cersei happened already (and it might not have yet far as I know). Ned always does the right thing even when it's inconvenient, and deals with the consequences. Can't see him withholding his best friend's son from him even if there was risk to the baby from the Lannisters.

But if it's Rhaegar that is the father, the people holding her would keep the baby alive, giving Ned a chance to eventually get him. Ned would have reason to believe Robert might slaughter the baby, the result of the rape of Ned's sister by Rhaegar Targaryen. So Ned does the right thing, claims the baby as his ******* to save him, even though it is inconvenient and causes him problems with Catelyn.

That would be such a Ned Stark thing to do, to take the burden on himself. Whereas Jon being Ned's son because Ned cheated on his wife seems a very un-Ned Stark thing to do.

My theory is pretty close to yours, with one minor detail. I don't want to comment on it since it might be somewhat incfluenced by the books and I don't want to get burned alive at the sake for doing that.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Look, the whole head of hair thing has been way too focused on both in the storytelling and int he visuals for Jon to not be Robert's son.

It was focused on becuase it the was the key to figuring out that Robert's kids were not actually his kids. It doesn't mean every black haired ******* walking around the 7 Kingdoms is Robert's.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Robert loved Lyanna,loved her. He went to war over her. If Jon Snow was their love child he would want to be a big part of his life

There's a scene when Robert and Ned are sitting at a table by a field on their way to KL. They discuss their whoring days. Robert says that Ned never said Jon Snow's mother looked like (he said her name was Wyla). Ned responds "Nor will I" very seriously. He doesn't want to tell Robert, probably because he would not approve.

Conversation turns immediately to a discussion of the Targaryens. Robert says they should kill Dany and her unborn baby. Ned makes the argument that it's not worth it. Conversation is heated.

I'm guessing the issues are linked and that Jon Snow's mother is a Targaryen. Dany is possibly his sister, maybe even a twin, making Ned her father.

So Ned was doing the Queen of the 7 kingdoms the Mad Kings wife?

Yeah probably not, huh.

We may all be assuming that Cat can't stand Jon Snow because he represents Ned's infidelity, but that's a conclusion we've come to in our minds I think. Might be some misdirection here and the truth is she is upset about something else perhaps.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

 

[Mile High]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

Ned barely knew Cat when the rebellion was going down. If he gave his sister his word, I can see him, of all people, following it to the letter.

 

[Mile High]

Maybe Jon Snow is Neds with a whore.

If you are into the story of Lyanna Stark read at you own risk. Since it is back story and doesn't exist.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lyanna_Stark

 

[the moops]

Yea, not sure why Jon Snow needs to be anyone but the son of Ned and a whore. Would be an incredible journey from ******* of Winterfell to King that defeats the white walkers.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Yea, not sure why Jon Snow needs to be anyone but the son of Ned and a whore. Would be an incredible journey from ******* of Winterfell to King that defeats the white walkers.

0% chance he's the son of a whore.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

Ned barely knew Cat when the rebellion was going down. If he gave his sister his word, I can see him, of all people, following it to the letter.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense for him to not share the secret with his wife.

 

[Mile High]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

Ned barely knew Cat when the rebellion was going down. If he gave his sister his word, I can see him, of all people, following it to the letter.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense for him to not share the secret with his wife.

Do we know for sure she didn't know the truth? Maybe she wasn't happy about the secret she was keeping more then Jon Snow.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

Ned barely knew Cat when the rebellion was going down. If he gave his sister his word, I can see him, of all people, following it to the letter.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense for him to not share the secret with his wife.

Do we know for sure she didn't know the truth? Maybe she wasn't happy about the secret she was keeping more then Jon Snow.

We know doesn't know.

I think you guys are forgetting who you're talking about here. It's Ned Stark. If he swore to his sister that he would keep the identity of her child a secret, then that's what he would do. Even with his wife. Even if she was a huge b about it.

When Jon asks him about his mother the last time they speak, as Jon is going off to the Wall, Ned tells him that the next time they speak, they'll talk about his mother. I think that's because Ned knew that the next time they spoke, Jon would have taken the black, thus severing all family ties he would have had. That might've been enough to make Ned confident that even if Robert somehow found out that he was a Targaryen, he would be safe on the wall having renounced his old blood lines. After all, there was another Targaryen there who was left untouched through the rebellion, even by Robert.

 

[The Z Machine]

Of course that Targaryen was a 90 year old maester.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Yea, not sure why Jon Snow needs to be anyone but the son of Ned and a whore. Would be an incredible journey from ******* of Winterfell to King that defeats the white walkers.

I agree, it shouldn't be an issue, but If Jon Snow is Lyanna's son with Rhaegar, then he is possibly the last royal male of Targaryen blood. Maybe he co-rules Westeros (or even the known world) with Daenerys and together they restore the Targaryen dynasty.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

Ned barely knew Cat when the rebellion was going down. If he gave his sister his word, I can see him, of all people, following it to the letter.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense for him to not share the secret with his wife.

Cat was Ned's wife, not his priest.

 

[Thunderlips]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

Ned barely knew Cat when the rebellion was going down. If he gave his sister his word, I can see him, of all people, following it to the letter.

Not only that, IIRC, Cat was to marry Ned's brother....so for all intents and purposes, Ned could have made that promise to his sister when he wasn't even involved with Cat.

 

[Mile High]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

Ned barely knew Cat when the rebellion was going down. If he gave his sister his word, I can see him, of all people, following it to the letter.

Not only that, IIRC, Cat was to marry Ned's brother....so for all intents and purposes, Ned could have made that promise to his sister when he wasn't even involved with Cat.

Rob was older then Jon so they were involved.

 

[Thunderlips]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

Ned barely knew Cat when the rebellion was going down. If he gave his sister his word, I can see him, of all people, following it to the letter.

Not only that, IIRC, Cat was to marry Ned's brother....so for all intents and purposes, Ned could have made that promise to his sister when he wasn't even involved with Cat.

Rob was older then Jon so they were involved.

Yup. She also says that she barely knew him when he (Ned) went off to war and came back with a *******. My bad.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

Ned barely knew Cat when the rebellion was going down. If he gave his sister his word, I can see him, of all people, following it to the letter.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense for him to not share the secret with his wife.

Yeah women are great at keeping secrets

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Just before he died, Aaron when to see an armorer to check out his apprentice, who winds up being Gendry. Ned goes down and thinks he just found Roberts ******* son. Gendry describes his mother as having yellow hair. She died when he was little.

 

[Drifter]

Whether he's Robert or Rhaegar's son, why did Ned keep it from Cat? He seemed to trust her wholly.

Pretty simple. He promised somebody he wouldn't tell anybody.

True that.

Seems pretty reasonable to request that he could at least tell his wife, given the affect it would have on his relationship and that Cat was nearly as trustworthy as Ned.

ETA: Doubly so if the mother is Cat's sister.

Best way to keep a secret is to keep it to yourself. Cat's sister? Lyanna is Neds sister.

Regardless, it just seems over the top to ask of someone already doing you a huge favor.

Lyanna: Cool, so you totally take the blame for this. And remember, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Right, I'll do you a huge favor and take the fall. But when you say anyone, you mean anyone other than Cat, right? I mean, obviously I have to tell my wife.

Lyanna: No, you can't tell anyone.

Ned: Dude, she's like the 2nd most trustworthy person in Westeros behind me. And I could get divorced over this, or at best have a wife who's pissed off at me for all eternity.

Lyanna: Well too damned bad, you should have thought of that before I ****ed Robert/Rhaegar and didn't wrap it up.

Ned: ...

Besides, I'd think the kid would be in more danger with Cat not knowing than if she knew. Thinking she was Ned's love-child, she pretty clearly resented him, and wasn't it pretty common in those times/that world for mother's to make their husband's bastards mysteriously "disappear"?

Ned barely knew Cat when the rebellion was going down. If he gave his sister his word, I can see him, of all people, following it to the letter.

Yeah, it doesn't make sense for him to not share the secret with his wife.

Makes all the sense in the world if he swore. The guy was as straight edge as it gets with that type of stuff.

 

[Drifter]

Maybe Jon Snow is Neds with a whore.

If you are into the story of Lyanna Stark read at you own risk. Since it is back story and doesn't exist.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lyanna_Stark

After reading this, I can certainly see why other conclusions would be reached. Nothing in the show would cause anybody to think this though.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Maybe Jon Snow is Neds with a whore.

If you are into the story of Lyanna Stark read at you own risk. Since it is back story and doesn't exist.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lyanna_Stark

After reading this, I can certainly see why other conclusions would be reached. Nothing in the show would cause anybody to think this though.

well littlefinger alluded to some of it in the crypt. and selmy talked about it to dany as well

 

[Mile High]

Maybe Jon Snow is Neds with a whore.

If you are into the story of Lyanna Stark read at you own risk. Since it is back story and doesn't exist.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lyanna_Stark

After reading this, I can certainly see why other conclusions would be reached. Nothing in the show would cause anybody to think this though.

well littlefinger alluded to some of it in the crypt. and selmy talked about it to dany as well

There are a few other clues,but you're right Drifter it is obscure. No where is there any thing saying Lyanna had a child. The thing you can take from her story and time lines is that if she did have a child the chance it was Robert's is next to zero.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Aaron?

 

[bentley]

Aaron?

Rudnicki is Jon Snows father?

 

[Koya]

Yea, not sure why Jon Snow needs to be anyone but the son of Ned and a whore. Would be an incredible journey from ******* of Winterfell to King that defeats the white walkers.

0% chance he's the son of a whore.

100% Chance.

Only question is the price.

 

[GregR]

Aaron?

He meant Jon Arryn, the Hand of the King before Ned.

 

[heckmanm]

The dragon idea was probably cool in theory as they are writing it down, but it didnt come off great for a number of reasons. Still great TV and Ill be back for next week

Honestly, if everyone is going to live, why not just have the dragon do a circle around Dany and torch all the harpies? Do that and you have the same result without the goofy parts. I don't even care about the hesitating to engage all at once as I did about not one person throwing a spear at Dany off and on the dragon. They hit the dragon without much of an issue.

Looked to me like it ran out of fire

my link

 

[jamny]

Oysters, clams and cockles!

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I have a question... Sansa already married Tyrion so how come she could marry Ramsey?

 

[comfortably numb]

I have a question... Sansa already married Tyrion so how come she could marry Ramsey?

Think it was cause they never banged?

 

[jamny]

I have a question... Sansa already married Tyrion so how come she could marry Ramsey?

Think it was cause they never banged?

I guess it's safe to say it's official with Ramsay.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I have a question... Sansa already married Tyrion so how come she could marry Ramsey?

Think it was cause they never banged?

I guess it's safe to say it's official with Ramsay.

Does this mean we won't see a Tyrion vs. Ramsay fight? :(

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I have a question... Sansa already married Tyrion so how come she could marry Ramsey?

Think it was cause they never banged?

Tyrion is probably more interested in banging Drogon now.

 

[The Duff Man]

What kind of dragon has no front arms?

 

[5-ish Finkle]

What kind of dragon has no front arms?

Wyvern

 

[Sinn Fein]

 

[Yankee23Fan]

This better be good. This season deserves an epic finale.

 

[Wingnut]

Is this the season finale??