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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (4 Viewers)

CGRdrJoe said:
Hodor may be a man of few words, but he's a major player in the Game of Thrones universe. There's been plenty of speculation about his lineage (does he have giant's blood?), his level of competency (how much does he actually understand?), and his vocabulary (why the hell does he only say "Hodor"?). In the wake of season six's second episode, which featured a young Hodor — then-called Wylis — talking and behaving like a normal (albeit abnormally large) child, the internet has overflowed with theories.

In the comments of a ridiculously contrived Reddit theory about Wylis's transformation into Hodor — we're ruling it out as pretty unlikely, since it involves Hodor being a warg and channeling his consciousness into a horse — a secondary idea about Hodor's background stands out.

:shrug:
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At this point, people need to back away from the keyboard, open a window, go for a walk....something.  

 
CGRdrJoe said:
so did Willis used to have the same powers as Bran and then something happened while he was inside an animal to turn him into Hodor? 
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By the way it's Wyllis. Which you'd only know if you had closed captioning on to see the spelling. Which is KIND of like a book I suppose in that it required reading... :scared:

 
If I was in Winterfell and he started talkin all that "HODOR" jive...I'd be like "What chu talkin bout Wyliss?"

 
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So glad this thread exists!

Opening scene of episode 2.  The cripple's protector, Mira (?), is outside in the snow.  There is a gnarly emo chick out there with her.

Who is that?

 
NFL-ons said:
So glad this thread exists!

Opening scene of episode 2.  The cripple's protector, Mira (?), is outside in the snow.  There is a gnarly emo chick out there with her.

Who is that?
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Child of the forest. She was/is helping the ThreeEyedRaven who was/is helping Bran.

 
Daenerys meets her future. Bran meets the past. Tommen confronts the High Sparrow. Arya trains to be No One. Varys finds an answer. Ramsay gets a gift. 

:popcorn:

 
I also dont understand why folks have so much interest in Hodor. I am not sure if I would even notice if the character disappeared

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I'm assuming the screams from the tower are her delivering little baby Jon Snow.

I wonder how House Umber got Rickon Stark

 
shadyridr said:
I'm assuming the screams from the tower are her delivering little baby Jon Snow.

I wonder how House Umber got Rickon Stark
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I'd think so.

And as far as Rickin goes.... Again it's a show with Dragons and Wizzards.... But man they take liberties with the timeline.  It's been forever since we have seen him and how that we are presumably going to have a "Stark" reunion in the north all of a sudden now we have a pressing reason to attack winterfell.

smacks of convenience, but whatever.

 
Even though Arya's scenes seem mostly useless, I thought something sort of interesting happened tonight...

When she's playing the Lying game with that other girl, the other girl smacks her when she said Arya Stark had 4 brothers. But then they didn't show her smacking her when she "corrected" herself and said that Jon Snow was her half brother.

Is the other girl just supposed to be really good at knowing someone is lying or is she supposed to be something more than that? (some sort of manifestation of the omnipotent many-faced God).

I only bring it up because obviously Arya believes in her heart that Jon is indeed her half brother. So as George Costanza tells us, its not a lie if you believe it. However, if the girl is more than just a human polygraph, it might be throwing a little wrench into R+L=J

I still believe R+L=J (it makes too much sense not to believe) but that scene did give me a little pause,

 
Where did they get Brian?

Tyrian should have taught the Eunice and the hot Mexican chick Quarters.

So bran can like dunk now?

Is Christopher Lee ever getting out of that tree?

Varis should have played with that terrorists chicks tittays just on general principle 

 
TLEF316 said:
Even though Arya's scenes seem mostly useless, I thought something sort of interesting happened tonight...

When she's playing the Lying game with that other girl, the other girl smacks her when she said Arya Stark had 4 brothers. But then they didn't show her smacking her when she "corrected" herself and said that Jon Snow was her half brother.

Is the other girl just supposed to be really good at knowing someone is lying or is she supposed to be something more than that? (some sort of manifestation of the omnipotent many-faced God).

I only bring it up because obviously Arya believes in her heart that Jon is indeed her half brother. So as George Costanza tells us, its not a lie if you believe it. However, if the girl is more than just a human polygraph, it might be throwing a little wrench into R+L=J

I still believe R+L=J (it makes too much sense not to believe) but that scene did give me a little pause,
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It really doesn't.  The biggest families are defined by their hair - Targaryen platinum, Lannister blonde, Baratheon black.  It's central to the plot of the first season.  To just toss that all aside and claim that neither the Targaryen nor the Stark lineage mattered for Jon makes no sense in the context of the show.   

 
Too bad Sam Tarley didn't die of dysentary in this episode. Can't imagine his story going anywhere interesting.

 
flapgreen said:
Time to kill off Sam.  Agreed.  Pointless. 
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Sam is a potential thread of a stable kingdom slowly coming together, one that's informed by reason and science. Jon's probably a part of that, as is Daenerys. But Arya might be a part of that, too. As could be Varys. And Tyrion. And Bran. Or maybe not. Maybe some of them get picked off, maybe it never comes together. But I think he might not be an altogether inconsequential piece of the puzzle.

And he's gotten 5 minutes out of about 180 total so far. That's not unreasonable.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Sam is a potential thread of a stable kingdom slowly coming together, one that's informed by reason and science. Jon's probably a part of that, as is Daenerys. But Arya might be a part of that, too. As could be Varys. And Tyrion. And Bran. Or maybe not. Maybe some of them get picked off, maybe it never comes together. But I think he might not be an altogether inconsequential piece of the puzzle.

And he's gotten 5 minutes out of about 180 total so far. That's not unreasonable.
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Sam has a role to play.  

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Sam is a potential thread of a stable kingdom slowly coming together, one that's informed by reason and science. Jon's probably a part of that, as is Daenerys. But Arya might be a part of that, too. As could be Varys. And Tyrion. And Bran. Or maybe not. Maybe some of them get picked off, maybe it never comes together. But I think he might not be an altogether inconsequential piece of the puzzle.

And he's gotten 5 minutes out of about 180 total so far. That's not unreasonable.
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Frostillicus said:
Sam has a role to play.  
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So many people were down on Bran's story line the last two seasons. "waste of time", "going nowhere" ... now we are getting useful stuff from his scenes.

Who know what same is going to learn at the citadel, or what we will learn through him?  I doubt they are just throw away scenes.  Throw away scenes would have been showing Rickon sitting around the Umbers house doing nothing.

 
dparker713 said:
It really doesn't.  The biggest families are defined by their hair - Targaryen platinum, Lannister blonde, Baratheon black.  It's central to the plot of the first season.  To just toss that all aside and claim that neither the Targaryen nor the Stark lineage mattered for Jon makes no sense in the context of the show.   
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The Targaryen's all had that hair because they had wed (and bred) brother to sister for hundreds of years. Not to get all sciency, but its a recessive trait that they continued to replicate because they kept ####### their siblings. Its not unreasonable to expect that Rhaegar's children might have dark hair if he had them with someone other than a female Targ.

FWIW, the online wiki's (which obviously aren't canon) describe Rhaegar's daughter  (presumably killed by The Mountain during the sack of King's Landing) as looking "Martell-like" after her mother.

 
Thought it was very interesting that Flashback Ned heard Bran calling out to him. Gotta think that comes into play at some point. Will Bran influence the past in some fashion and will that mean for the future?

So if Jon's leaving the Wall what the F happens when Sansa and Brienne show up in the next episode? Will the Starks ever be reunited on this damn show? I am happy Jon's leaving the Knight's Watch, though. First off I think his destiny lies beyond the wall but also I think his storyline is confined if he remains there. Smart way to have his death be used as a way to say his watch has ended.

Glad Olly was off'd. Little spineless ungrateful weasel. Here's hoping he spends his days in hell being endlessly torn apart by all of the dead Stark dire wolves.

Like TLEF, I also thought it was interesting that Arya got smacked when she first said she had four brothers. There was something about Jon the other girl didn't like there. 

Tyrion trying to make conversation with Missandei and Grey Worm was great stuff. 

 
rascal said:
Yeah, but Jamie's response seemed to indicate they knew who against.  Only thing of interest i can think of is Loras but that doesn't make any sense
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Honestly, I thought it was setting up a scene where the sparrow puts Cersei on trial for her remaining sins or whatever. I actually thought that was the sole reason they sent Tommen to see the sparrow and that conversation. I would assume Cersei at any point can ask for a trial by combat and then watch Frankenstein 1v1 against the Sparrow or anyone he can find. 

 
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bigmarc27 said:
Honestly, I thought it was setting up a scene where the sparrow puts Cersei on trial for her remaining sins or whatever. I actually thought that was the sole reason they sent Tommen to see the sparrow and that conversation. I would assume Cersei at any point can ask for a trial by combat and then watch Frankenstein 1v1 against the Sparrow or anyone he can find. 
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The Sparrow's gotta have something up his sleeve if it's a trial by combat. He's been one step ahead of Cersei the entire time. 

 
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