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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (3 Viewers)

ConnSKINS26 said:
Two things I also noticed/thought during the episode. The Gilly actress is so pregnant it's distracting, with no story reason given. 
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I assumed she is pregnant IRL (or just gained some weight), and they just tried to bury her in clothes.  Not anything to do with story.  

 
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Most likely outcome that makes sense is NK loses battle but survives and takes most every main character down with it. 

Leaves meli to enter stage left and finish it in E4.  

 
Grey worm is a less objectionable yuron. He's just meh. I'm not so much nervous about him dying as i am n nervous that the legendary unsullied will have been used mostly as cops. 

Loved tormund but he's become comic relief after starting out as a total bad ###.  Still fun, but...tormund and brienne is probably better if it doesn't actually happen.

Arya throwing knives was a bit much.  She's a very good fighter.  Wish they would have left it at that instead of making her a superhero.

Sansa sucked early on but she's really done great maturing into her role and i like her more as lady of winterfell than 9 thought i would. Kudos to Sophie Turner.

Jamie having his sword on his right side seemed strange at first until i thought about how you actually draw a sword.  

Happy to see jorah get a valerian steel sword. 

Samwise, tyrion and the ladies vs the walking ned should be interesting.  

Jon and danny have less chemistry than an actual aunt and nephew. 

I bet the Gendry actor was like what the #### no.  He's known her since she was 10 and he was 25 or something. 

The white Walker horses get a ####ty deal imo. Everyone else comes back as zombie warriors and the horses are like well i guess i'm a horse still

I feel like Tyrion and Cersei need to meet again so bronn can be conflicted but maybe not.  

Gilly has about run her course. If she dies in the crypts so be it. She was a better character than i thought but not someone i need to see at the end to feel like the story is complete. 

I wonder if the night king could take control of the mountain

 
Arya is going to throw that Valeryian steel dagger at something

dunno why this is underlined, but can't fix on tablet

 
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Game of Thrones writer Bryan Cogman breaks down season 8, episode 2’s big scenes:

https://ew.com/tv/2019/04/21/game-of-thrones-bryan-cogman-knight-seven-kingdoms-interview/

Very cool read.

Excerpts:

Game of Thrones co-executive producer Bryan Cogman penned the second episode of the final season, “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms,” which devoted an hour to quietly spending time with fan-favorite characters before their apocalyptic battle against the Army of the Dead. While fans expected the six-episode final season to be action-packed (and it will be), the producers also felt it was important to slow down and savor the show’s ensemble lineup of characters now that they’re together in one place and facing what is almost certainly their last night all together.

“This episode is really a love letter to the characters,” Cogman says. “With most of our battles you get about 15 minutes of calm-before-the-storm with the characters participating in that battle taking stock of where they are in their lives before the dam breaks. This is an entire episode of that so that episode 3 can hit the ground running.”

Jaime knighting Brienne in the Great Hall: “We wanted to take the audience by surprise. It’s not a ceremonial scene on a cliff at sunset with billowing capes. It comes out of a throwaway moment that even some people in the room think is a joke and then they quickly realize it’s not. It’s a monumental thing. It’s a moment of grace and beauty in the middle of a nightmare and the main reason I wanted to write this episode.

One suspects the episode will dramatically feel even stronger when watched in tandem with the next episode of season 8 which chronicles the Battle of Winterfell. “There was such a breakneck pace to season 7 that I was delighted when the [showrunners] proposed an episode of just spending time with characters in this space,” Cogman says. “I think it will make episode 3 — which is spectacular — all the richer. The moment that episode 3 starts we’re in full 100 percent battle mode.”

 
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hagmania said:
This was the most saccharine episode of the series.

They're all going to die.
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I thought it was an awesome episode because of that.  Everyone got their good bye moment. Hopefully some of them live. 

Also if Dany stabbed Jon to death at the end that would have have been awesome.

 
bostonfred said:
Grey worm is a less objectionable yuron. He's just meh. I'm not so much nervous about him dying as i am n nervous that the legendary unsullied will have been used mostly as cops. 

Loved tormund but he's become comic relief after starting out as a total bad ###.  Still fun, but...tormund and brienne is probably better if it doesn't actually happen.

Arya throwing knives was a bit much.  She's a very good fighter.  Wish they would have left it at that instead of making her a superhero.

Sansa sucked early on but she's really done great maturing into her role and i like her more as lady of winterfell than 9 thought i would. Kudos to Sophie Turner.

Jamie having his sword on his right side seemed strange at first until i thought about how you actually draw a sword.  

Happy to see jorah get a valerian steel sword. 

Samwise, tyrion and the ladies vs the walking ned should be interesting.  

Jon and danny have less chemistry than an actual aunt and nephew.

I bet the Gendry actor was like what the #### no.  He's known her since she was 10 and he was 25 or something. 

The white Walker horses get a ####ty deal imo. Everyone else comes back as zombie warriors and the horses are like well i guess i'm a horse still

I feel like Tyrion and Cersei need to meet again so bronn can be conflicted but maybe not.  

Gilly has about run her course. If she dies in the crypts so be it. She was a better character than i thought but not someone i need to see at the end to feel like the story is complete. 

I wonder if the night king could take control of the mountain
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So many good takes but the bolded has me dying over here. 🤣

 
Put me in the weak writing column.  Worst writing probably of the series.  It's like the writers are trying to carry the show by having highlighting characters with a past together - expecting viewers to geek out over the pairings.

And if you read this thread you can see that it is working.

 
Just re-watched - Bran told Tyrion something....had to.

Agree with Theon guarding Bran? Really?  how about someone with at least a valyrian blade? 

 
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Man of Constant Sorrow said:
Ok, I posted that I was checking outta this thread until I finished my watch. It was a sincere vow. 

A little later, I get a notify that Fred quote me. I think - WHOA - Fred - he quoting me...? I gots to check this out! 

Punched the little bar on my phone... 

BAM! I'm back inta the thread I jist vowed ta stay outta.. 

F YOU FRED! 

I vowed ta not break any vows for Lent. In my family, Lent don't end for another 25 minutes!

THNX TO YOU, I FAILD Lent at the last momeny! And now, I prolly go ta hell! 

Well - go to HELL FRED! 

Btw, I M started my watch now Mf'er, and I gonna quote you ever F'n time I gotta piss, butter my popcorn or scratch my balls. 

Fred... Thnx million. ☹️
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Lent officially ended at sundown on Thursday.

 
It reminded me quite a bit of the Helm’s Deep scenes (before the battle) in The Two Towers. 

So now I’m wondering if at the end of the battle Cersei could come in and save the day? I don’t know why she would, but...

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
im guessing its the red women. not cersei.
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This. This is Interesting. What help could she bring? 

This is one of the unresolved questions of the book/show. The god of light vs the darkness. If the Red Woman isn't full of it, she has to show now, doesn't she? Its always been a question if she's been bluffing her way through the game with hints to one side or the other. But is there a more climatic scene to come?

Hmm.

 
The Dude said:
Put me in the weak writing column.  Worst writing probably of the series.  It's like the writers are trying to carry the show by having highlighting characters with a past together - expecting viewers to geek out over the pairings.

And if you read this thread you can see that it is working.
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You consistently have the worst takes in here. It's incredible. 

 
IrishTwinkie said:
This. This is Interesting. What help could she bring? 

This is one of the unresolved questions of the book/show. The god of light vs the darkness. If the Red Woman isn't full of it, she has to show now, doesn't she? Its always been a question if she's been bluffing her way through the game with hints to one side or the other. But is there a more climatic scene to come?

Hmm.
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going to tell Jon to kill Bran/Danny or both. Burn the trees too....or she could bring Bran back...maybe the NK defeats winterfell, a dragon and a half dozen heros fall back...NK takes kingslanding….endless possibilities......either way that dude standing between jon and sam is as good as dead.

 
Melisandre is definitely not done. She said only last season that she still had to die in Westeros. 

Remember how Tyrion and Varys got a whole gang of Red Priests to come preach Dany's awesomeness in Mereen? She, all those priests, and maybe the Second Sons could make a last-minute appearance like the elves at Helm's Deep. 

Based on the resurrections, the Lord of Light is a real power behind the scenes. Based on the visions to the Hound and the rest of the Brotherhood, the Lord of Light is indeed positioned against the White Walkers. It's basically now or never, it would be weird for such an important power to not play a role in the final battle in some way. 

 
The Dude said:
Put me in the weak writing column.  Worst writing probably of the series.  It's like the writers are trying to carry the show by having highlighting characters with a past together - expecting viewers to geek out over the pairings.

And if you read this thread you can see that it is working.
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That’s the point. We have spent 7 years with these characters. They’ve lived. A lot of them are going to die. We got a last send off. Why in the world is that weak writing?  That’s great writing. 

 
bigbottom said:
Loved the knighting scene, particularly the two looks Brianne and Podrick share - the first when she says she never wanted to be a knight, and the second when she realizes she is going to be made one. 
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That look Pod gave her and her acknowledgment of it when she said she never wanted to be a knight was priceless.  I also particularly loved watching Jaime during the interactions between Brienne and Tormund.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Melisandre is definitely not done. She said only last season that she still had to die in Westeros. 

Remember how Tyrion and Varys got a whole gang of Red Priests to come preach Dany's awesomeness in Mereen? She, all those priests, and maybe the Second Sons could make a last-minute appearance like the elves at Helm's Deep. 

Based on the resurrections, the Lord of Light is a real power behind the scenes. Based on the visions to the Hound and the rest of the Brotherhood, the Lord of Light is indeed positioned against the White Walkers. It's basically now or never, it would be weird for such an important power to not play a role in the final battle in some way. 
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right they have left her out so far this season for a reason.

 
IrishTwinkie said:
This. This is Interesting. What help could she bring? 

This is one of the unresolved questions of the book/show. The god of light vs the darkness. If the Red Woman isn't full of it, she has to show now, doesn't she? Its always been a question if she's been bluffing her way through the game with hints to one side or the other. But is there a more climatic scene to come?

Hmm.
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In a conversation with Varys she did say she would be back and her destiny was to die in this strange country as was his.

 
krista4 said:
That look Pod gave her and her acknowledgment of it when she said she never wanted to be a knight was priceless.  I also particularly loved watching Jaime during the interactions between Brienne and Tormund.
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I think Pod answered the question that both Bronn and Tyrion were asking oh so many seasons ago. Who knew the squire could sing?! The girls surely swooned at his dulcet tones.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Melisandre is definitely not done. She said only last season that she still had to die in Westeros. 

Remember how Tyrion and Varys got a whole gang of Red Priests to come preach Dany's awesomeness in Mereen? She, all those priests, and maybe the Second Sons could make a last-minute appearance like the elves at Helm's Deep. 

Based on the resurrections, the Lord of Light is a real power behind the scenes. Based on the visions to the Hound and the rest of the Brotherhood, the Lord of Light is indeed positioned against the White Walkers. It's basically now or never, it would be weird for such an important power to not play a role in the final battle in some way. 
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What if the Red Woman somehow resurrects a whole bunch of main characters who are killed before the Night King has a chance to zombify them to his side?

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
she went to volantis for something....more priests? 

I hope we don't get some deus ex machina moment, but alas its fantasy.....
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I like the idea of more red priests. That would be a realistic twist to everything we've seen so far w/the lord of light and his followers. I think she has to come back into the show before everything is said/done.

 
cap'n grunge said:
What if the Red Woman somehow resurrects a whole bunch of main characters who are killed before the Night King has a chance to zombify them to his side?
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I think after an episode like this, and down the home stretch, the last thing this show wants to do is make death mean less, and that's what that would do. They did it with one character to show it was possible and set up doing it to a much more important character, who is special. Reaching into that bag too many times would kill the consequence death has on this show. Who knows, but I doubt they go there. 

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
I think after an episode like this, and down the home stretch, the last thing this show wants to do is make death mean less, and that's what that would do. They did it with one character to show it was possible and set up doing it to a much more important character, who is special. Reaching into that bag too many times would kill the consequence death has on this show. Who knows, but I doubt they go there. 
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I agree. I could see her do it one more time with maybe one character though. Or maybe she tries and fails. That could add some emotional drama.

 
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ConnSKINS26 said:
I think after an episode like this, and down the home stretch, the last thing this show wants to do is make death mean less, and that's what that would do. They did it with one character to show it was possible and set up doing it to a much more important character, who is special. Reaching into that bag too many times would kill the consequence death has on this show. Who knows, but I doubt they go there. 
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Agre....red priests role will be something ####ed up like a shadow crotch baby or burning a child....leech magic.....whats the last bag of tricks she has? 

 
Hmm....Davos had his scene where he was reminded of Shireen. Maybe the Red Woman comes to help but Davos kills her before she has a chance.

So many possibilities.

 
cap'n grunge said:
Hmm....Davos had his scene where he was reminded of Shireen. Maybe the Red Woman comes to help but Davos kills her before she has a chance.

So many possibilities.
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She was also on Arya's list at one point. But she's probably off of it in the same way that Berric Dondarian is. Still, the Red Woman said they'd meet again. 

 
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