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Game Thread -Divisionals-Pittsburgh V Indianapolis (1 Viewer)

As a kicker, it's make or miss. There is no barely make or badly miss. Choke or not, it's very simple for kickers, even the best of them. See Vandy & Vinatieri.
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Please, let's respect accuracy here.
 
As a strategy, next year teh Colts might want to plan to not get the first round bye so they stay sharp.  It was clear today that it took the offense almost 3 quarters to start clicking.  I really think the time off hurt them. 

It might sound stupid, but the Colts might want to go for a record of 11-5, instead of 13-3 or better, just to ensure that the offense stays sharp.
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It is stupid.
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Did you even watch the game? I guess not... :rolleyes: You should probably stop posting until you watch the game buddy.
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And you may want to stop posting until you have a clue about football.
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Have you seen the game yet? Didn't think so :rolleyes:
 
big time playes dont have guys making excuses for them and blaming other team members on internet message boards like this one.big time players win so the finger point and blame defecting is never an issue.manning isn't big time. blame the offensive line, the pass rush, the play calling, the kicker all you want. they won 13 straight, went 14-2, had home field throughout, were playing a team they manhandled two months ago, and they still lost. and it woouldn't have even been as close as it was if not for the worst officiating call since the tuck rule and a freak bettis fumble.manning is a loser. deal with it.the refs tried as hard as they could to bail him out and he still couldn't do it.

 
I really dont like Manning but I dont think Manning choked today. He just didnt play very well.
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you call it not playing very well. i call it choking. not surprising.

this is the same guy who came to tennessee his senior year to win the big one, then blew it, only to watch tee martin guide the vols to the title the very next year.

the same guy who rewrote the record book during the 04 season only to pull up lame in a 20-3 trouncing in foxboro

 
Vandy is clearly a graduate of Scott Norwood's school of mental toughness, racks all kinds of garbage points but can't hit a big kick.
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When you write something like that, it's not unfair to ask you to back it up. Just what kicks have Vanderjagt missed besides this one that makes it fair to give him this rep?I'll be holding my breath waiting for an answer.

People hate that kickers have some say in the outcome of a game, so they're willing to throw them to the dogs for the slightest thing. It's wrong.
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He missed the tying kick against the Pats in last years season opener after the Colts had made a nice comeback.
 
Vinatieri sure didn't have trouble with all those 40+ yarders as the clock ran out in the playoffs.  Wonder what would happen if they were on opposite teams the last 5 years...Would people call Brady a choker because the kicker, and not Brady, missed those kicks in the Super Bowl if they ended up losing?
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Vinatieri sure did have trouble with his opportunity yesterday. I wouldn't be using his name as the gold standard.
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Vinatieri is STILL the gold standard for pressure kicking. 1 miss yesterday does not change that.
 
If they would have lost due to that "supposed" INT, I would have driven to the "supposed" ref's house and murdered him. Its my bday today and I almost lost my ticker......

 
God, I hope a few things don't get lost in the anti-Manning, Dungy, and Vanderjagt stuff...Roethlisberger played like a champion today. The Steelers defense played an exceptional game.The Steelers coaching staff implemented a perfect game-plan from the start, trusting Roethlisberger to get them the lead and their defense and running game to hold onto it. The players went out and executed it.

 
If they would have lost due to that "supposed" INT, I would have driven to the "supposed" ref's house and murdered him. Its my bday today and I almost lost my ticker......
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you and about 1,000,000 + Steeler fans!! BOGUS call that should cost some refs theor jobs..
 
God, I hope a few things don't get lost in the anti-Manning, Dungy, and Vanderjagt stuff...

Roethlisberger played like a champion today.

The Steelers defense played an exceptional game.

The Steelers coaching staff implemented a perfect game-plan from the start, trusting Roethlisberger to get them the lead and their defense and running game to hold onto it. The players went out and executed it.
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It wasn't a perfect game-plan. The playing not to lose attitude in the second half almost cost the Steelers the game.
 
big time playes dont have guys making excuses for them and blaming other team members on internet message boards like this one.

big time players win so the finger point and blame defecting is never an issue.

manning isn't big time. blame the offensive line, the pass rush, the play calling, the kicker all you want.

they won 13 straight, went 14-2, had home field throughout, were playing a team they manhandled two months ago, and they still lost.

and it woouldn't have even been as close as it was if not for the worst officiating call since the tuck rule and a freak bettis fumble.

manning is a loser. deal with it.

the refs tried as hard as they could to bail him out and he still couldn't do it.
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You think it was a freak Bettis fumble? The guy looks like Martin Lawrence from Big Momma's house. With a belly that big, no way could he tuck the ball away properly. He couldnt have gotten 2 hands on the ball if he wanted to.
 
God, I hope a few things don't get lost in the anti-Manning, Dungy, and Vanderjagt stuff...

Roethlisberger played like a champion today.

The Steelers defense played an exceptional game.

The Steelers coaching staff implemented a perfect game-plan from the start, trusting Roethlisberger to get them the lead and their defense and running game to hold onto it.  The players went out and executed it.
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It wasn't a perfect game-plan. The playing not to lose attitude in the second half almost cost the Steelers the game.
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They didn't play not to lose at all. A team that's playing not to lose doesn't go for it TWICE on one drive near midfield on 4th down.Running the ball for the Steelers is playing to win, but I don't expect everyone to see it that way. The Colts made adjustments to prevent the Steelers from passing, so they had more success running the ball in the 2nd half.

Cowher is 102-1-1 when his team leads by 11 or more for a reason.

 
God, I hope a few things don't get lost in the anti-Manning, Dungy, and Vanderjagt stuff...

Roethlisberger played like a champion today.

The Steelers defense played an exceptional game.

The Steelers coaching staff implemented a perfect game-plan from the start, trusting Roethlisberger to get them the lead and their defense and running game to hold onto it.  The players went out and executed it.
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It wasn't a perfect game-plan. The playing not to lose attitude in the second half almost cost the Steelers the game.
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I'm a Steeler fan and totally agree- play action would have been deadly in the 2nd half... they played well enough to win though, despite the bad calls...
 
God, I hope a few things don't get lost in the anti-Manning, Dungy, and Vanderjagt stuff...

Roethlisberger played like a champion today.

The Steelers defense played an exceptional game.

The Steelers coaching staff implemented a perfect game-plan from the start, trusting Roethlisberger to get them the lead and their defense and running game to hold onto it.  The players went out and executed it.
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It wasn't a perfect game-plan. The playing not to lose attitude in the second half almost cost the Steelers the game.
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They didn't play not to lose at all. A team that's playing not to lose doesn't go for it TWICE on one drive near midfield on 4th down.Running the ball for the Steelers is playing to win, but I don't expect everyone to see it that way. The Colts made adjustments to prevent the Steelers from passing, so they had more success running the ball in the 2nd half.

Cowher is 102-1-1 when his team leads by 11 or more for a reason.
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True but they didn't attack the Colts secondary like they did in the first half. They could have put the game away and the announcers stated that as well.
 
If they would have lost due to that "supposed" INT, I would have driven to the "supposed" ref's house and murdered him.  Its my bday today and I almost lost my ticker......
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you and about 1,000,000 + Steeler fans!! BOGUS call that should cost some refs theor jobs..
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I was amazed by that call as well. However, the refs announcement sounded like the call was based on some rule like the "Tuck" rule. He said "The defender lost control of the ball before his knee had gotten up from the turf." Polamula's left knee knocked the ball out of his arm while his right knee was still down.I wouldnt be surprised to see clarification from the NFL on Monday about some obscure rule.

The overturn announcement just seemed too technical to be a judgement call.

 
Just got home from the game. There is not a fan more sick than I am right now. The Colts had a great regular season. Vanderjagt sucks. He has been a changed kicker ever since he and Manning had an exchange of words two seasons ago.This team will not be excellent until it makes it to the Super Bowl. And that will not happen until drastic changes are made to the defensive philosophy.I am sick. That game was pure agony to watch. Congrats to the Steelers and their fans. You deserve the glory.

 
big time playes dont  have guys making excuses for them and blaming other team members on internet message boards like this one.

big time players win so the finger point and blame defecting is never an issue.

manning isn't big time. blame the offensive line, the pass rush, the play calling, the kicker all you want. 

they won 13 straight, went 14-2, had home field throughout, were playing a team they manhandled two months ago, and they still lost. 

and it woouldn't have even been as close as it was if not for the worst officiating call since the tuck rule and a freak bettis fumble.

manning is a loser. deal with it.

the refs tried as hard as they could to bail him out and he still couldn't do it.
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You think it was a freak Bettis fumble? The guy looks like Martin Lawrence from Big Momma's house. With a belly that big, no way could he tuck the ball away properly. He couldnt have gotten 2 hands on the ball if he wanted to.
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Actually, it was Bettis' first fumble of the year and he rarely, rarely fumbles. It was shocking to see it happen and have the season nearly end because of it.
 
I am the biggest Steelers fan there is and I wanted to murder Bettis AT THE TIME. But they won the game and thats all that matters. Truth is that the Bus is one of the best runners the Steelers have ever seen. The Bus is going to rumble through the Mile High City en route to his first SB championship. He is nothing but class. Heres to a championship since he deserves it.... :banned:

 
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Just got home from the game. There is not a fan more sick than I am right now. The Colts had a great regular season. Vanderjagt sucks. He has been a changed kicker ever since he and Manning had an exchange of words two seasons ago.

This team will not be excellent until it makes it to the Super Bowl. And that will not happen until drastic changes are made to the defensive philosophy.

I am sick. That game was pure agony to watch.

Congrats to the Steelers and their fans. You deserve the glory.
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good post-- thanks! :thumbup:
 
Just got home from the game. There is not a fan more sick than I am right now. The Colts had a great regular season. Vanderjagt sucks. He has been a changed kicker ever since he and Manning had an exchange of words two seasons ago.

This team will not be excellent until it makes it to the Super Bowl. And that will not happen until drastic changes are made to the defensive philosophy.

I am sick. That game was pure agony to watch.

Congrats to the Steelers and their fans. You deserve the glory.
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:goodposting: And, to add, the idiot kicker has missed the 3 biggest kicks in recent Colts history. All the kicks he has made has not made up for the 3 big kicks he missed (two in the playoffs - one @NE last year).

 
Just got home from the game. There is not a fan more sick than I am right now. The Colts had a great regular season. Vanderjagt sucks. He has been a changed kicker ever since he and Manning had an exchange of words two seasons ago.

This team will not be excellent until it makes it to the Super Bowl. And that will not happen until drastic changes are made to the defensive philosophy.

I am sick. That game was pure agony to watch.

Congrats to the Steelers and their fans. You deserve the glory.
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:goodposting: And, to add, the idiot kicker has missed the 3 biggest kicks in recent Colts history. All the kicks he has made has not made up for the 3 big kicks he missed (two in the playoffs - one @NE last year).
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:goodposting: There's your answer Jimmy James. Vandershank=Scott Norwide of the new Millennium. He will be forever remembered as the drunken loud-mouthed schmuck who shanked the kick at the end of this game and slammed his helmet like a little punk. :excited:
 
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I really hope there is an inquiry of the replay officials--  no way should those officias still have a job after that interception overrule...  that was an absolutely horrendus call..  so bad, that I almost want to say 'fixed'..  just brutal!!
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I'm amazed at how this place just erupts after one small tiny miniscule call goes by that maybe might have been wrong. Let it go guys.
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This coming from the guy who kept posting that the Colts were getting jobbed by the refs. :potkettle:

 
I really hope there is an inquiry of the replay officials--   no way should those officias still have a job after that interception overrule...  that was an absolutely horrendus call..  so bad, that I almost want to say 'fixed'..  just brutal!!
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I'm amazed at how this place just erupts after one small tiny miniscule call goes by that maybe might have been wrong. Let it go guys.
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This coming from the guy who kept posting that the Colts were getting jobbed by the refs. :potkettle:
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Totally different. I made a judgement call based on what I observed and simply came here (this is a game thread right? I can make comment about the game here, correct?) to make a slight mention of it. One little possible misstep against the Stillers and the place just erupts. Two totally different things.
 
I really hope there is an inquiry of the replay officials--   no way should those officias still have a job after that interception overrule...  that was an absolutely horrendus call..  so bad, that I almost want to say 'fixed'..  just brutal!!
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I'm amazed at how this place just erupts after one small tiny miniscule call goes by that maybe might have been wrong. Let it go guys.
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This coming from the guy who kept posting that the Colts were getting jobbed by the refs. :potkettle:
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Totally different. I made a judgement call based on what I observed and simply came here (this is a game thread right? I can make comment about the game here, correct?) to make a slight mention of it. One little possible misstep against the Stillers and the place just erupts. Two totally different things.
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One possible little misstep? First of all, the call was right on the field. The replay official overturned it in the most egregiously poor decision I have ever seen on a football field. The game was effectively over there and the official basically gifted the Colts a second chance to win. That is unforgivable. It's not like the called a false start/offsides incorrectly. There's a reason why people erupted - Steeler fans AND NON-STEELER FANS ALIKE. People can see what is right and worng, unlike you.... who is obviously still so bitter over the Benglas loss that the best way you can think of to spend your time is to try to disparage the Steelers and devalue their victory.And you have the nerve to tall other people to let it go. :lmao:

Have fun watching us in Denver next week.

 
Just saw Peyton Mannings post game news conference, and he said, "I want to be a good teammate and all, but we definetely had some protection problems". SO he's blaming his offensive line for the loss.Vandergajt simply said that he had no excuses for the missed FG.

 
Just got home from the game. There is not a fan more sick than I am right now. The Colts had a great regular season. Vanderjagt sucks. He has been a changed kicker ever since he and Manning had an exchange of words two seasons ago.

This team will not be excellent until it makes it to the Super Bowl. And that will not happen until drastic changes are made to the defensive philosophy.

I am sick. That game was pure agony to watch.

Congrats to the Steelers and their fans. You deserve the glory.
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A few of you n00bs in this thread should learn from this post. This is how you conduct yourself with class.Thanks, pizzatyme - hats off the Colts on a great season. You guys will be right there next year too.

 
Just saw Peyton Mannings post game news conference, and he said, "I want to be a good teammate and all, but we definetely had some protection problems". SO he's blaming his offensive line for the loss.

Vandergajt simply said that he had no excuses for the missed FG.
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i wouldnt say hes blaming them but he sure wasnt being a good teammate.
 
I really hope there is an inquiry of the replay officials--   no way should those officias still have a job after that interception overrule...  that was an absolutely horrendus call..  so bad, that I almost want to say 'fixed'..  just brutal!!
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I'm amazed at how this place just erupts after one small tiny miniscule call goes by that maybe might have been wrong. Let it go guys.
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This coming from the guy who kept posting that the Colts were getting jobbed by the refs. :potkettle:
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Totally different. I made a judgement call based on what I observed and simply came here (this is a game thread right? I can make comment about the game here, correct?) to make a slight mention of it. One little possible misstep against the Stillers and the place just erupts. Two totally different things.
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One possible little misstep? First of all, the call was right on the field. The replay official overturned it in the most egregiously poor decision I have ever seen on a football field. The game was effectively over there and the official basically gifted the Colts a second chance to win. That is unforgivable. It's not like the called a false start/offsides incorrectly. There's a reason why people erupted - Steeler fans AND NON-STEELER FANS ALIKE. People can see what is right and worng, unlike you.... who is obviously still so bitter over the Benglas loss that the best way you can think of to spend your time is to try to disparage the Steelers and devalue their victory.And you have the nerve to tall other people to let it go. :lmao:

Have fun watching us in Denver next week.
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Wow. You think I'm bitter over the Bengals loss? Is this what this is all about? :lmao: Ok. Have fun in Denver. I'm done discussing this because you Stiller fans seriously won't let it go and that's really unfortunate. I will be watching you guys in Denver and seriously praying Ben doesn't shred his knee.
 
A good point as well by Steelers4Life - Roethlisberger did play like a champion again this week. Not only did he badly outplay Manning, but he has played the best football of any QB in these playoffs, Brady included. I only hope now that more people are getting to see what he can do on a national stage, that people are more appreciative of the reasons I have been pimping him so much the last 2 years, rather than just chalking it up to homerism.

 
I really hope there is an inquiry of the replay officials-- no way should those officias still have a job after that interception overrule... that was an absolutely horrendus call.. so bad, that I almost want to say 'fixed'.. just brutal!!
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I'm amazed at how this place just erupts after one small tiny miniscule call goes by that maybe might have been wrong. Let it go guys.
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This coming from the guy who kept posting that the Colts were getting jobbed by the refs. :potkettle:
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Totally different. I made a judgement call based on what I observed and simply came here (this is a game thread right? I can make comment about the game here, correct?) to make a slight mention of it. One little possible misstep against the Stillers and the place just erupts. Two totally different things.
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One possible little misstep? First of all, the call was right on the field. The replay official overturned it in the most egregiously poor decision I have ever seen on a football field. The game was effectively over there and the official basically gifted the Colts a second chance to win. That is unforgivable. It's not like the called a false start/offsides incorrectly. There's a reason why people erupted - Steeler fans AND NON-STEELER FANS ALIKE. People can see what is right and worng, unlike you.... who is obviously still so bitter over the Benglas loss that the best way you can think of to spend your time is to try to disparage the Steelers and devalue their victory.And you have the nerve to tall other people to let it go. :lmao:

Have fun watching us in Denver next week.
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There is no chance that the Steelers will beat the Broncos in Denver. The Steelers rush the ball 57% of the time (1st in the NFL), and the Broncos finished the regular season with the 2nd rated rush defense in the league. The Broncos rush the ball 52% of the time(2nd in the NFL), and Pittsburgh has a spectacular rush defense. These matchups should be great, but the entire game will revolve around the pressure put on Ben. If Al Wilson can get to Ben, than he'll have trouble getting the ball to Hines Ward. If Champ can stop Hines, the Broncos will win with ease.
 
anyone see Manning throw his entire OL under the bus?

"I want to be a good teammate, but we had some protection problems"

:lmao: :boxing:
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He should have just said, "I want to be a good teammate but if I was playing behind the Steelers line we would have won today......"
 
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