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Game Thread W11 - Chicago v NY Jets (1 Viewer)

Looking forward to this. Mangini has his boys playing hard. Should be a knock-down drag-out 1st half and an exciting 4th quarter.

Bears 34

Jets 23

 
1-10-NYG29 (14:53) E.Manning pass deep middle to P.Burress to NYG 45 for 16 yards (D.Manning).

1-10-NYG45 (14:15) T.Barber left guard to NYG 46 for 1 yard (T.Harris, A.Ogunleye).

2-9-NYG46 (13:35) T.Barber right tackle to CHI 36 for 18 yards (D.Manning).

1-10-CHI36 (12:52) E.Manning pass short right to P.Burress to CHI 23 for 13 yards (C.Tillman).

PENALTY on NYG, Illegal Formation, 5 yards, enforced at CHI 36 - No Play.

1-15-CHI41 (12:42) T.Barber right guard to CHI 20 for 21 yards (A.Ogunleye).

1-10-CHI20 (11:51) E.Manning pass short right to T.Barber to CHI 15 for 5 yards (L.Briggs).

2-5-CHI15 (11:04) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass incomplete short right to D.Tyree (H.Hillenmeyer).

3-5-CHI15 (10:56) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass incomplete short right to P.Burress.

4-5-CHI15 (10:51) J.Feely 33 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-R.Kuehl, Holder-J.Feagles

Be great if I knew this last week. :lmao:

 
I didn't get to watch much just flipping during Pats game but it seems to me Mangini deserves some kudos for his defensive game plan. I hope BB watches

 
I hate to say it, but I seriously believe Pennington cost us that game nearly single handedly. I don't know about other Jets fans, but I am absolutely sick to death of seeing the stupid little 4 yard dumpoff. I could tolerate it if they could score after moving it down the field. But Pennington looks scared EVERY TIME he drops back. They ran the ball very well against a great Chicago D, IMO. When you are doing that, you have to mix it up and take a few shots down the field.

If you see a replay of the Urlacher INT, Pennington is staring down his receiver from the moment the ball is snapped. No exaggeration- he never once looked away. I could intercept a ball if a QB was giving it away that bad. Then to top it off he throws the worst pass of the day. And the rainbow 6 yard INT he threw while being sacked was pathetic. The Jets' D did exceptionally well for the bigger part of 3 quarters yesterday. Until we have someone better than Pennington there, I just don't see us capitalizing on these opportunities on a regular basis. Outside of Thomas Jones, Chicago did not play that well offensively. They were ripe for the picking, and the Jets folded.

 
Lovie and Rex said afterwards that this was a very basic game plan, and that they only wanted to do just what it took to win. I guess it worked.

Maybe they're saving the big guns for the Pats next week. I dunno. But even if the Bears drop next week's game, they come out of this killer road stretch at 2-1, with the loss coming to an AFC team. I can live with that.

 
N.Y. Shreks said:
I hate to say it, but I seriously believe Pennington cost us that game nearly single handedly. I don't know about other Jets fans, but I am absolutely sick to death of seeing the stupid little 4 yard dumpoff. I could tolerate it if they could score after moving it down the field. But Pennington looks scared EVERY TIME he drops back. They ran the ball very well against a great Chicago D, IMO. When you are doing that, you have to mix it up and take a few shots down the field. If you see a replay of the Urlacher INT, Pennington is staring down his receiver from the moment the ball is snapped. No exaggeration- he never once looked away. I could intercept a ball if a QB was giving it away that bad. Then to top it off he throws the worst pass of the day. And the rainbow 6 yard INT he threw while being sacked was pathetic. The Jets' D did exceptionally well for the bigger part of 3 quarters yesterday. Until we have someone better than Pennington there, I just don't see us capitalizing on these opportunities on a regular basis. Outside of Thomas Jones, Chicago did not play that well offensively. They were ripe for the picking, and the Jets folded.
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100% agree. What was even more frustrating was seeing a reply on ESPN off the Urlacher interception and seeing a wide screen shot that shows Coles on the left side of the end zone, 4 or 5 yards behind the defender open for a pretty easy TD pass.
 
N.Y. Shreks said:
I hate to say it, but I seriously believe Pennington cost us that game nearly single handedly. I don't know about other Jets fans, but I am absolutely sick to death of seeing the stupid little 4 yard dumpoff. I could tolerate it if they could score after moving it down the field. But Pennington looks scared EVERY TIME he drops back. They ran the ball very well against a great Chicago D, IMO. When you are doing that, you have to mix it up and take a few shots down the field.

If you see a replay of the Urlacher INT, Pennington is staring down his receiver from the moment the ball is snapped. No exaggeration- he never once looked away. I could intercept a ball if a QB was giving it away that bad. Then to top it off he throws the worst pass of the day. And the rainbow 6 yard INT he threw while being sacked was pathetic. The Jets' D did exceptionally well for the bigger part of 3 quarters yesterday. Until we have someone better than Pennington there, I just don't see us capitalizing on these opportunities on a regular basis. Outside of Thomas Jones, Chicago did not play that well offensively. They were ripe for the picking, and the Jets folded.
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Here we go again. :rolleyes:
 
flapgreen said:
N.Y. Shreks said:
I hate to say it, but I seriously believe Pennington cost us that game nearly single handedly. I don't know about other Jets fans, but I am absolutely sick to death of seeing the stupid little 4 yard dumpoff. I could tolerate it if they could score after moving it down the field. But Pennington looks scared EVERY TIME he drops back. They ran the ball very well against a great Chicago D, IMO. When you are doing that, you have to mix it up and take a few shots down the field.

If you see a replay of the Urlacher INT, Pennington is staring down his receiver from the moment the ball is snapped. No exaggeration- he never once looked away. I could intercept a ball if a QB was giving it away that bad. Then to top it off he throws the worst pass of the day. And the rainbow 6 yard INT he threw while being sacked was pathetic. The Jets' D did exceptionally well for the bigger part of 3 quarters yesterday. Until we have someone better than Pennington there, I just don't see us capitalizing on these opportunities on a regular basis. Outside of Thomas Jones, Chicago did not play that well offensively. They were ripe for the picking, and the Jets folded.
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Here we go again. :rolleyes:
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Good input. :thumbup: Your thoughtful analysis and insight is making me rethink my position.
 
N.Y. Shreks said:
flapgreen said:
N.Y. Shreks said:
I hate to say it, but I seriously believe Pennington cost us that game nearly single handedly. I don't know about other Jets fans, but I am absolutely sick to death of seeing the stupid little 4 yard dumpoff. I could tolerate it if they could score after moving it down the field. But Pennington looks scared EVERY TIME he drops back. They ran the ball very well against a great Chicago D, IMO. When you are doing that, you have to mix it up and take a few shots down the field.

If you see a replay of the Urlacher INT, Pennington is staring down his receiver from the moment the ball is snapped. No exaggeration- he never once looked away. I could intercept a ball if a QB was giving it away that bad. Then to top it off he throws the worst pass of the day. And the rainbow 6 yard INT he threw while being sacked was pathetic. The Jets' D did exceptionally well for the bigger part of 3 quarters yesterday. Until we have someone better than Pennington there, I just don't see us capitalizing on these opportunities on a regular basis. Outside of Thomas Jones, Chicago did not play that well offensively. They were ripe for the picking, and the Jets folded.
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Here we go again. :rolleyes:
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Good input. :thumbup: Your thoughtful analysis and insight is making me rethink my position.
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I'm been listening to fans from almost every team the Bears beat use this same reasoning. I'm done trying to make anyone rethink it. It wouldn't matter what I said. Everyone seems to be catching the Denny Greenititis. Must be that time of year again. :X
 
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flapgreen said:
N.Y. Shreks said:
flapgreen said:
N.Y. Shreks said:
I hate to say it, but I seriously believe Pennington cost us that game nearly single handedly. I don't know about other Jets fans, but I am absolutely sick to death of seeing the stupid little 4 yard dumpoff. I could tolerate it if they could score after moving it down the field. But Pennington looks scared EVERY TIME he drops back. They ran the ball very well against a great Chicago D, IMO. When you are doing that, you have to mix it up and take a few shots down the field.

If you see a replay of the Urlacher INT, Pennington is staring down his receiver from the moment the ball is snapped. No exaggeration- he never once looked away. I could intercept a ball if a QB was giving it away that bad. Then to top it off he throws the worst pass of the day. And the rainbow 6 yard INT he threw while being sacked was pathetic. The Jets' D did exceptionally well for the bigger part of 3 quarters yesterday. Until we have someone better than Pennington there, I just don't see us capitalizing on these opportunities on a regular basis. Outside of Thomas Jones, Chicago did not play that well offensively. They were ripe for the picking, and the Jets folded.
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Here we go again. :rolleyes:
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Good input. :thumbup: Your thoughtful analysis and insight is making me rethink my position.
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I'm been listening to fans from almost every team the Bears beat use this same reasoning. I'm done trying to make anyone rethink it. It wouldn't matter what I said. Everyone seems to be catching the Denny Greenititis. Must be that time of year again. :X
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I see. So you think the Bears had the game in hand the whole time and were just sandbagging? You think that Grossman having 5 yards passing at the half, and being tied 0-0 was all part of their brilliant plan? The Jets had them stymied in the first half. The Thomas Jones fumble reversal was the turning point of the whole game. They did make a few plays down the stretch when they needed to, but overall, they were extremely vulnerable all game. If you think otherwise you must not have watched the game, you're a blind homer, or both. To compare everyone who points out that the Bears aren't perfect to Denny Green is just stupid. Funny that the teams they struggled most to put away this year were the Jets, Cardinals, and Vikings. They are a good looking team right now. But they aren't the 85 Bears. They can be beaten.
 
N.Y. Shreks said:
I see. So you think the Bears had the game in hand the whole time and were just sandbagging? You think that Grossman having 5 yards passing at the half, and being tied 0-0 was all part of their brilliant plan? The Jets had them stymied in the first half. The Thomas Jones fumble reversal was the turning point of the whole game. They did make a few plays down the stretch when they needed to, but overall, they were extremely vulnerable all game. If you think otherwise you must not have watched the game, you're a blind homer, or both. To compare everyone who points out that the Bears aren't perfect to Denny Green is just stupid. Funny that the teams they struggled most to put away this year were the Jets, Cardinals, and Vikings. They are a good looking team right now. But they aren't the 85 Bears. They can be beaten.
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I missed the part where flappy said they ARE the 85 bears, and they CANT be beaten. I do remember the part where he said it was a good game, and a defensive battle.Most of your analysis is correct - the Bears didn't look that good on offense, and the momentum did seem to shift after the fumble reversal.

What excites myself about the Bears this season is they are winning football games. What other NFL team can say that? It seems that moreso this year, teams look great one week, then terrible the next (see Dallas, Philly, NYG, Jacksonville, St. Louis, Seattle, Carolina, Cinci, Pittsburg, Minnesota, Atlanta etc) There aren't many consistent teams out there. The Bears are 9-1. The only team that can say the same is the Colts. The Ravens and Chargers are the only 2 loss teams.

To say that Flappy is a blind homer based on the comments he made in this thread is BS.

 
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flapgreen said:
N.Y. Shreks said:
flapgreen said:
N.Y. Shreks said:
I hate to say it, but I seriously believe Pennington cost us that game nearly single handedly. I don't know about other Jets fans, but I am absolutely sick to death of seeing the stupid little 4 yard dumpoff. I could tolerate it if they could score after moving it down the field. But Pennington looks scared EVERY TIME he drops back. They ran the ball very well against a great Chicago D, IMO. When you are doing that, you have to mix it up and take a few shots down the field.

If you see a replay of the Urlacher INT, Pennington is staring down his receiver from the moment the ball is snapped. No exaggeration- he never once looked away. I could intercept a ball if a QB was giving it away that bad. Then to top it off he throws the worst pass of the day. And the rainbow 6 yard INT he threw while being sacked was pathetic. The Jets' D did exceptionally well for the bigger part of 3 quarters yesterday. Until we have someone better than Pennington there, I just don't see us capitalizing on these opportunities on a regular basis. Outside of Thomas Jones, Chicago did not play that well offensively. They were ripe for the picking, and the Jets folded.
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Here we go again. :rolleyes:
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Good input. :thumbup: Your thoughtful analysis and insight is making me rethink my position.
Click to expand...
I'm been listening to fans from almost every team the Bears beat use this same reasoning. I'm done trying to make anyone rethink it. It wouldn't matter what I said. Everyone seems to be catching the Denny Greenititis. Must be that time of year again. :X
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:goodposting: Dont bother wasting your time

 
gferrell20 said:
N.Y. Shreks said:
I see. So you think the Bears had the game in hand the whole time and were just sandbagging? You think that Grossman having 5 yards passing at the half, and being tied 0-0 was all part of their brilliant plan? The Jets had them stymied in the first half. The Thomas Jones fumble reversal was the turning point of the whole game. They did make a few plays down the stretch when they needed to, but overall, they were extremely vulnerable all game. If you think otherwise you must not have watched the game, you're a blind homer, or both. To compare everyone who points out that the Bears aren't perfect to Denny Green is just stupid. Funny that the teams they struggled most to put away this year were the Jets, Cardinals, and Vikings. They are a good looking team right now. But they aren't the 85 Bears. They can be beaten.
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I missed the part where flappy said they ARE the 85 bears, and they CANT be beaten. I do remember the part where he said it was a good game, and a defensive battle.Most of your analysis is correct - the Bears didn't look that good on offense, and the momentum did seem to shift after the fumble reversal.

What excites myself about the Bears this season is they are winning football games. What other NFL team can say that? It seems that moreso this year, teams look great one week, then terrible the next (see Dallas, Philly, NYG, Jacksonville, St. Louis, Seattle, Carolina, Cinci, Pittsburg, Minnesota, Atlanta etc) There aren't many consistent teams out there. The Bears are 9-1. The only team that can say the same is the Colts. The Ravens and Chargers are the only 2 loss teams.

To say that Flappy is a blind homer based on the comments he made in this thread is BS.
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Because it was pointed out that the Bears didn't play their best game on Sunday and they were certainly beatable, he comments that "that's what every team the Bears have beaten this year have said" and "it's Deny Greenitis". Whatever. That's homerism talking. Every team is NOT doing that. Do you think the Bills or the Seahawks were saying that after getting pounded? What about Green Bay? I have no problem with Bears fans starting their own public masturbation thread where they can stroke each other off about how awesome their team is. But this is a game discussion thread. I brought up the point that the Bears certainly didn't look their best on Sunday, and the Jets blew a great opportunity. To call anyone who points out when the Bears are playing subpar "Denny Green" is stupid.
 
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N.Y. Shreks said:
gferrell20 said:
N.Y. Shreks said:
I see. So you think the Bears had the game in hand the whole time and were just sandbagging? You think that Grossman having 5 yards passing at the half, and being tied 0-0 was all part of their brilliant plan? The Jets had them stymied in the first half. The Thomas Jones fumble reversal was the turning point of the whole game. They did make a few plays down the stretch when they needed to, but overall, they were extremely vulnerable all game. If you think otherwise you must not have watched the game, you're a blind homer, or both. To compare everyone who points out that the Bears aren't perfect to Denny Green is just stupid. Funny that the teams they struggled most to put away this year were the Jets, Cardinals, and Vikings. They are a good looking team right now. But they aren't the 85 Bears. They can be beaten.
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I missed the part where flappy said they ARE the 85 bears, and they CANT be beaten. I do remember the part where he said it was a good game, and a defensive battle.Most of your analysis is correct - the Bears didn't look that good on offense, and the momentum did seem to shift after the fumble reversal.

What excites myself about the Bears this season is they are winning football games. What other NFL team can say that? It seems that moreso this year, teams look great one week, then terrible the next (see Dallas, Philly, NYG, Jacksonville, St. Louis, Seattle, Carolina, Cinci, Pittsburg, Minnesota, Atlanta etc) There aren't many consistent teams out there. The Bears are 9-1. The only team that can say the same is the Colts. The Ravens and Chargers are the only 2 loss teams.

To say that Flappy is a blind homer based on the comments he made in this thread is BS.
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Because it was pointed out that the Bears didn't play their best game on Sunday and they were certainly beatable, he comments that "that's what every team the Bears have beaten this year have said" and "it's Deny Greenitis". Whatever. That's homerism talking. Every team is NOT doing that. Do you think the Bills or the Seahawks were saying that after getting pounded? What about Green Bay? I have no problem with Bears fans starting their own public masturbation thread where they can stroke each other off about how awesome their team is. But this is a game discussion thread. I brought up the point that the Bears certainly didn't look their best on Sunday, and the Jets blew a great opportunity. To call anyone who points out when the Bears are playing subpar "Denny Green" is stupid.
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You have good points in your original post, no question. But when I was reading your original post I too did the old "here we go again" thought in my mind. That's the problem. Every week we are told how lucky the Bears were, that they are a mediocre team, that if team X played them the next three weeks they would win them all; yada yada yada. Us Bear fans are tired of that. So Flappy was posting out of frustration. You said it was Pennington's fault the Bears won. No credit to the Bears D at all. If Pennington was better the Jets would have manhandled the Bears I'm sure.
 
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