Game Thread W11 - New England V Buffalo (2 Viewers)

[Statorama]

73 points is the NFL record for most in a game. NE has 56 now with nearly 14 minutes on the clock. If they want to go for it, they have a tremendous shot. Personally I'd try for it, it would be just as impressive as a 19-0 season in my opinion.

I think BB has the Jets game earmarked for that record. Would love to see that.

The line will be 24 that week.

And it won't be enough. I think you might see the first 30 point line in the modern NFL gambling era.

 

[dmac37]

Out of all of this throwing the ball the 2nd time they went for it on 4th down was the worst.

 

[twitch]

There's been a CHAD JACKSON sighting!

 

[timschochet]

think about Matt Cassell for a second. In college, he played behind two heisman trophy winners on a team that won two national championships. Now he's earning a paycheck playing behind a future MVP on a team bound for the Superbowl...

 

[jurb26]

Tom Brady is basically taking the entire 4th quarter off. Can we get an asterisk for that??

By seasons end, Brady and Moss will have essentially broken their respective records in less than 14 games is my guess.

 

[Cptchaz]

What if the Patriots get McFadden in the draft with that SF pick?

That would be fun.

Yeah, but the Pats don't go offense with the first rounders usually. Maybe DL like Glenn Dorsey or Chris Long....

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Which offensive scheme is/was better - the 2007 Patriots or the Rams' "Greatest Show On Turf"?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Which is the "classiest" option here?Punt? Kneel? Run? Pass? Field Goal?

Depends on the situation...4th and 1 from inside the 5? FG4th and 10 from the 30? Run4th and anything from outside the 40? Punt

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Do you people making "jokes" about running up the score actually think you are funny?

Going for it on 4th down inside the 20 when the game is safely in hand, however, is running up the score.Situation makes the difference.

so adding 3 points isn't but 7 is.

Yes, exactly. Do you really need the extra 4 points in that situation?

 

[Lehigh98]

Sure they do, check where they asked for updates.And who asked you 5 digiter?

@ '5 digiter'. Are you really THAT desperate for an insult?

Nah, just thought it was funny.

I thought you said you were going to bed?

I did, but I just couldn't turn this off.

 

[jurb26]

What if the Patriots get McFadden in the draft with that SF pick?

That would be fun.

Yeah, but the Pats don't go offense with the first rounders usually. Maybe DL like Glenn Dorsey or Chris Long....

Thats scarier.

 

[HellToupee]

Do you people making "jokes" about running up the score actually think you are funny?

Going for it on 4th down inside the 20 when the game is safely in hand, however, is running up the score.Situation makes the difference.

so adding 3 points isn't but 7 is. Either way their adding points.

No point continuing a dialogue if you can't see the basic difference. How did Welker do for you?

need 22 yds or a TD

 

[Cptchaz]

Time for Evans to score.

 

[MrJimmy]

What's sad is that no matter what the Patriots do, the whining babies here will find a way to cry about it. If they go for it, they're classless. If they kick a field goal, they're running up the score. If they kneel, they're rubbing it in.If you can't handle watching football without getting your feelings hurt, then you need to find a new sport.

I think more ppl are having issues with them being up by 4-5 TD's and going on it on 4th and 1 in chip shot FG range...I don't really care, but seriously how is this NOT running up the score? If you don't agree then you are blind, a fan, or a FF owner.

I'm amazed so many guys feel the way you do. Think this through for a minute...Put yourself in the Bills position. Pretend you are playing linebacker for them tonight. Do you honestly want to even whiff the Pats "letting up"? That would be humiliating. I think Belichick is showing respect for the Buffalo players by playing it honest for as long as he has.Really, if the Pats were interested in running it up and humiliating the opponent, they would kneel down for every play in the second half- which is what many of you want.This knee-jerk response about running it up laughable. It's the NFL, not HS. And many of you are arguing for a remedy that would probably only inflame Jauron and the Bills.

 

[bentley]

think about Matt Cassell for a second. In college, he played behind two heisman trophy winners on a team that won two national championships. Now he's earning a paycheck playing behind a future MVP on a team bound for the Superbowl...

Two? Last time I checked, USC only had one BCS trophy.

 

[urbanhack]

passing on 1st.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Is Cassell throwing once every 5 plays against the running up the score rules?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

What if the Patriots get McFadden in the draft with that SF pick?

That would be fun.

Yeah, but the Pats don't go offense with the first rounders usually. Maybe DL like Glenn Dorsey or Chris Long....

Thats scarier.

Considering the players already on the Patriots' d-line, I think that McFadden would have more impact on the offense than Dorsey/Long would on the defense.But either of them would be great picks as well as a fresh Patriots d-line for 60 minutes would be terrifying to watch.

 

[jurb26]

Here is the rushing stat line for a Pats team that "can't run the ball."

NET YARDS RUSHING	  112Total Rushing Plays 	25Average Gain per Rushing Play 	4.5Tackled for a Loss (Number-Yards) 	1-2

 

[HellToupee]

Do you people making "jokes" about running up the score actually think you are funny?

Going for it on 4th down inside the 20 when the game is safely in hand, however, is running up the score.Situation makes the difference.

so adding 3 points isn't but 7 is.

Yes, exactly. Do you really need the extra 4 points in that situation?

I'd go for it but would run the ball not throw. I think the FG is cheap in a blowout situation , but so is passing.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Do you people making "jokes" about running up the score actually think you are funny?

Can we just clarify all this for a second?Punching it in on 3rd and goal when the game is safely in hand is not running up the score.

Taking an INT back for a TD when the game is safely in hand is not running up the score.

Playing your starters through the 4th when the game is safely in hand is not running the score.

Trying to kick a 50+ FG when the game is safely in hand is not running up the score.

Going for it on 4th down inside the 20 when the game is safely in hand, however, is running up the score.

Situation makes the difference.

Says who? I think most would consider that running up the score.

I might agree with that. But it's less clear cut than, say, going for it on 4th down in that situation.

 

[Eric]

Out of all of this throwing the ball the 2nd time they went for it on 4th down was the worst.

No it wasn't. The only other options were to kneel or kick a FG. Both of those would have been called unsportsmanlike. Will you people quit crying and just enjoy this for what it is?

 

[Workhorse]

I'm a Pats fan.

Going for it on 4th and 1 up by 30+ points and throwing the ball to Moss?

That's running it up.

Period.

That said? It's fun as hell to watch.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Sure they do, check where they asked for updates.And who asked you 5 digiter?

@ '5 digiter'. Are you really THAT desperate for an insult?

Nah, just thought it was funny.

I thought you said you were going to bed?

I did, but I just couldn't turn this off.

A few guys in my main league always claim they didn't see the whole game, went to bed at halftime, etc. I know its bull. Its too hard to just walk away because anything can happen in the last 5 minutes...pretty funny

 

[urbanhack]

GO FOR IT!!!!!!

 

[Cptchaz]

Is Cassell throwing once every 5 plays against the running up the score rules?

Pat, you are such a classless meanie!!!

 

[nerangers]

Do you think that if there was a rule in the NFL that a team could call "Mercy" and that would end the game, do you think there is a Coach that actually would????

stop whining about running up the score...

 

[jurb26]

What if the Patriots get McFadden in the draft with that SF pick?

That would be fun.

Yeah, but the Pats don't go offense with the first rounders usually. Maybe DL like Glenn Dorsey or Chris Long....

Thats scarier.

Considering the players already on the Patriots' d-line, I think that McFadden would have more impact on the offense than Dorsey/Long would on the defense.But either of them would be great picks as well as a fresh Patriots d-line for 60 minutes would be terrifying to watch.

As much as I love McFadden (I think he is the best player in the draft). One thing the NFL has proven (BB especially) is that RBs are interchangeable. Getting stud talent at other positions would help NE more.

 

[bostonfred]

Fake. Please, fake.

 

[The Duff Man]

What's sad is that no matter what the Patriots do, the whining babies here will find a way to cry about it. If they go for it, they're classless. If they kick a field goal, they're running up the score. If they kneel, they're rubbing it in.If you can't handle watching football without getting your feelings hurt, then you need to find a new sport.

I think more ppl are having issues with them being up by 4-5 TD's and going on it on 4th and 1 in chip shot FG range...I don't really care, but seriously how is this NOT running up the score? If you don't agree then you are blind, a fan, or a FF owner.

I'm amazed so many guys feel the way you do. Think this through for a minute...Put yourself in the Bills position. Pretend you are playing linebacker for them tonight. Do you honestly want to even whiff the Pats "letting up"? That would be humiliating. I think Belichick is showing respect for the Buffalo players by playing it honest for as long as he has.Really, if the Pats were interested in running it up and humiliating the opponent, they would kneel down for every play in the second half- which is what many of you want.This knee-jerk response about running it up laughable. It's the NFL, not HS. And many of you are arguing for a remedy that would probably only inflame Jauron and the Bills.

There is a big difference between going for it on 4th and kneeling down, Pats supporters in here just want to kid themselves into thinking they are the same thing.

 

[LAUNCH]

FAKE!

LAUNCH

 

[Workhorse]

Hats off to the Bills defense for forcing a punt.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I'm a Pats fan.Going for it on 4th and 1 up by 30+ points and throwing the ball to Moss?That's running it up.Period.That said? It's fun as hell to watch.

If more Patriot fans were as honest as yourself, the world wouldn't hate New England fans nearly as much. I completely and totally agree with you that they're running it up (that's their right) but it's rather fun to watch.

 

[Intergalactic Kegger]

Which offensive scheme is/was better - the 2007 Patriots or the Rams' "Greatest Show On Turf"?

The Patriots. The Rams had a great scheme, but these Patriots are going to outscore them by over 100 points. The 2007 Patriots will go down as the greatest team of all time if they keep up this pace.

 

[BigRed]

Really, if the Pats were interested in running it up and humiliating the opponent, they would kneel down for every play in the second half-

Yeah kneeling down is the surest way to rack up points in a hurry.

 

[Lehigh98]

Sure they do, check where they asked for updates.And who asked you 5 digiter?

@ '5 digiter'. Are you really THAT desperate for an insult?

Nah, just thought it was funny.

I thought you said you were going to bed?

I did, but I just couldn't turn this off.

Plus I need me some Lee Evans.But I'm thinking the Bills will almost just run the clock to get out of there.

 

[Bob Lee Swagger]

Fake. Please, fake.

Damnit.

 

[Cptchaz]

Hats off to the Bills defense for forcing a punt.

That should read..."forcing their FIRST punt of the game"

 

[bostonfred]

think about Matt Cassell for a second. In college, he played behind two heisman trophy winners on a team that won two national championships. Now he's earning a paycheck playing behind a future MVP on a team bound for the Superbowl...

Two? Last time I checked, USC only had one BCS trophy.

Onepeat

 

[Bad_Mo]

NE needs a better punter. That kick was terrible.

 

[nerangers]

Hats off to the Bills defense for forcing a punt.

forcing the punt from the Buffalo 31....that was the Pats practicing Punting...

 

[HellToupee]

I find Andrea Kramer oddly hot

 

[BigSteelThrill]

So... what have I missed so far?

 

[The Duff Man]

And since when is commenting that the Patriots are classless and running it up "whining" ?

 

[Eric]

NE needs a better punter. That kick was terrible.

Considering he only gets to punt about once per game, I'd say it was pretty decent.

 

[BigTuna]

NE needs a better punter. That kick was terrible.

ah ha! Found there weak spot. I'm going to forward this post to Mike Holmgren in case we meet them in the superbowl.

 

[Brutis]

NE needs a better punter. That kick was terrible.

BB will take that out on their opponent next week.

 

[Assani Fisher]

On the other end of the spectrum, this Bills team is horrible.

LOL....this is the same Bills team that has won 5 out of 6 games with the only loss being a 1 point loss to 9-1 Dallas, right?NE has a way of making teams look terrible I think.

 

[The Ref]

NE needs a better punter. That kick was terrible.

And with the third pick in the 2008 draft, the New England Patriots select via the San Fancisco 49'ersJoe Smith, Punter, State U.

 

[twitch]

think about Matt Cassell for a second. In college, he played behind two heisman trophy winners on a team that won two national championships. Now he's earning a paycheck playing behind a future MVP on a team bound for the Superbowl...

yeah, but he's no Steve Young.