Game Thread W2 - Oakland V Denver (1 Viewer)

[ScoobyDoo]

Henry needed a blow so he wasn't even on the field to cal the TO.

 

[Elway Lives]

Again, as stomach turning as this was, Denver still managed to come back with a key drive at the end to win it, just like they did last week. Even after they iced Janikowski, they still had to put together a drive to get Elam in range, and I for one think they have been doing that MUCH more effectively than Plummer did with the team last year (granted we are only two games into the season). Denver is still working out kinks, but they by no means look like a team who has no clue how to claw out a win this year.

 

[Ignoramus]

Henry needed a blow so he wasn't even on the field to cal the TO.

Let's keep it PG-13, guy.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Henry needed a blow so he wasn't even on the field to cal the TO.

Let's keep it PG-13, guy.

A blow is another term for a rest on the sideline.

 

[mr. furley]

Henry needed a blow so he wasn't even on the field to cal the TO.

Let's keep it PG-13, guy.

A blow is another term for a rest on the sideline.

 

[Despyzer]

But people need to decide what they believe here. Are the Raiders much better than given credit, or are the Broncos not as good?

Adding this game to last week's equation, I would have to say that both teams might be worse than I was expecting them to be coming into the season.

 

[mr. furley]

But people need to decide what they believe here. Are the Raiders much better than given credit, or are the Broncos not as good?

Adding this game to last week's equation, I would have to say that both teams might be worse than I was expecting them to be coming into the season.

save it for the test forum, guy

 

[Ignoramus]

Henry needed a blow so he wasn't even on the field to cal the TO.

Let's keep it PG-13, guy.

A blow is another term for a rest on the sideline.

Riiiiiiight.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Henry needed a blow so he wasn't even on the field to cal the TO.

Let's keep it PG-13, guy.

A blow is another term for a rest on the sideline.

Riiiiiiight.

blow - verb · allow to regain its breath; "blow a horse"

 

[mr. furley]

Henry needed a blow so he wasn't even on the field to cal the TO.

Let's keep it PG-13, guy.

A blow is another term for a rest on the sideline.

Riiiiiiight.

blow - verb · allow to regain its breath; "blow a horse"

 

[analog_hiss]

Jordan is just destroying Denver today.

Jordan is destroying Denver today but I left him on my bench. Instead I went with Maroney against SD.

Wait, so if Jordan gets 159 yards from scrimmage without a TD, that's destroying, but if Henry gets 183, that's cause for concern?

TD's are difficult to predict, consistently losing some of the few opportunities that come along is cause for concern. You are better than this SSOG.

You're right, TDs are difficult to predict, so it's safer to extrapolate someone's yardage total than their TD total. Besides, as I said, EVERYONE loses goal-line carries. Henry's going to be a top-10 RB whether Sapp/Bell/Young see action or not.

Shanahan's no better then the #### Belichick pulled

Wow. Just wow.

#### YOU SHANAHAN. ####. I hate that bull####.

That was BS

Coaches can't call a timeout now?

Sure, coaches can call time out, but please, ice the kicker before the play.If Sea-bass misses the kick, does Shanahan argue that he didn't call the time out?Desperate move, IMHO

It's a risky move, but an effective one. The goal of icing the kicker is to get him to go all the way through his preparation to the point of commitment and then back him out. The closer you call the timeout to the snap, the better, but then you risk calling it too late.Also, just to remind everyone... through 130 minutes of football, Denver has allowed 125 net passing yards. Denver is giving up, on average, less than ONE PASSING YARD PER MINUTE. Wrap your heads around that one for a second.

I can store that info for later...

 

[Ignoramus]

Henry needed a blow so he wasn't even on the field to cal the TO.

Let's keep it PG-13, guy.

A blow is another term for a rest on the sideline.

Riiiiiiight.

blow - verb · allow to regain its breath; "blow a horse"

Jesus.

 

[Peyton Marino]

i reported scooby doo. my kids read these threads, guy.

 

[jmsne]

I could be wrong here, but I think barring a gigantic game by LT tonight Lamont Jordan is the leading rb scorer in my main league..

 

[mr. furley]

i reported scooby doo. my kids read these threads, guy.

 

[CrossEyed]

So is Culpepper going to get the chance to play, or did they sign him to hold the clipboard all year?

 

[MogusMaximus]

such bull####the Donks should be 0-2.

scoreboard, loser. scoreboard.

 

[raidergil]

such bull####the Donks should be 0-2.

scoreboard, loser. scoreboard.

Scoreboard might be a bit deceiving as Broncos have just beaten 2 teams that will be drafting in the top 5 next April, by a combined 4 pts.

 

[SSOG]

Definitely the first. Oakland's offense was HISTORICALLY bad last year, but their defense was actually very good. Simple regression to the mean results in a HUGE improvement on offense. The result is a team with a very young, very talented defense, and an offense that isn't nearly as bad as most people think. Still, Oakland isn't going to be a credible threat until they get themselves a real QB- which is why it's so puzzling that McCown is still in there. Either go with Culpepper, who has in the past resembled a real NFL QB, or else give the keys to the rookie, who you drafted to one day be a real NFL QB.

I was with you right up until "Hand the keys to the rookie". No thanks. ETA for JRuss is 2008.

I agree that you can't give Russell the ball until at least after the bye week, thanks to the holdout, and starting Russell is tantamount to giving up on the season, but I think the way to best ensure they have a real NFL QB 2 or 3 years from now is starting Russell ASAP so that they can either get through his growing pains or realize he's a bust and start looking for plan B. I sort of think that this is a lost season for Oakland, anyway- no way are they making the playoffs in a division with SD and Denver and a conference with NE, Ind, Pitt, Balt, and Cincy (not to mention Houston! ). Might as well start making moves based on what gives them the best chance to win 2-3 years from now, IMO.Fake Edit: I definitely know the feeling, though. Remember, Denver fans wrestled with the exact same dilemma last year with Cutler. In retrospect, though, I'm really glad that Cutler got some experience last year.

 

[massraider]

You know, after reading some of the debates over when the rookie QB's should play, I've come to the conclusion that there's not one correct answer. No team, or QB, is ever in the exact same situation. Playing right away didn't hurt Aikman or Manning, but probably hurt some other guys.

I think when Russell has the playbook down, and the team has proven they can protect him, he should get some PT. What I din't agree with is, "When the season is lost, play the kid." I say, "Play the kid when he's ready." And by ready, I don't mean ready to play well, but just...ready to play. Whenever the coach decides that is. I am mildly alarmed that I see people calling for Quinn just because Frye sucked last week. Franchise QBs are a long term plan, I don't necessarily agree with throwing them in the fire. Especially if they don't have much help.

I think 2007 is a 'lost' year insofar as I think it's a rebuilding year. The Raiders aren't ready to play with the big boys. I was glad I didn't see any 'quick fix' FA signings this offseason, we re-signed Terdell, etc. If they re-sign Nnamdi, and stay in the direction they are going, they have a young team that will mature with Russell. No rush on JaMarcus.

 

[Ghost Rider]

LOL at anyone criticizing Shanahan's TO. Yeah, because the Broncos are the first team to ever try and freeze a kicker.

such bull####the Donks should be 0-2.

But they aren't. They are 2-0. Crazy how that works, isn't it?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

The Raiders are learning a new offence...they can only get better.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Perhaps the most unimpressive 2 and 0 start I have ever seen. Of course the standings record ugly wins over really crappy opponents just the same as dominating performances over good teams.

 

[SSOG]

Perhaps the most unimpressive 2 and 0 start I have ever seen.

Out of curiousity, are you watching the games, or are you basing that solely off of margin of victory and opponent faced? This isn't one of those "you obviously aren't watching the games!" accusations, I was just honestly curious. As a Broncos fan, I have to say, if you look at anything other than the actual score, you'd swear Denver won those two games by 40 combined points. I mean, outgaining Buffalo by 300 yards? Allowing 125 net passing yards in 130 minutes?Denver is #1 in the NFL in yards per game (#5 in passing yards, #4 in rushing yards). Denver is #3 in the NFL in yards allowed per game (with Philly yet to play, so they'll likely be #2 in yards allowed per game after tonight), allowing 62.5 yards per game passing despite an 12% more football than the average NFL team (thanks to the OT). Denver has a positive turnover differential and a positive sack differential (including ranking 7th in the league in sacks and 3rd in the league in INTs). If this is the most unimpressive 2-0 start you've ever seen, I would suggest that maybe you haven't seen many 2-0 starts.If Philly allows more than 222 yards tonight, then Denver and New England will be #1 and #2 in terms of yards per game and yards allowed per game. If Denver hadn't played overtime, it would have actually been #1 in both categories (and yes, that's even discounting the yards that Denver itself gained in overtime).