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Game Thread W2 - Pittsburgh V Cleveland (1 Viewer)

Look, a FG was obviously the play there.

The Steelers were clearly going to stop the 4th and 7, and they're going to score a TD here regardless. Better for tiebreakers to lose by 10 than 14.

HTH.

 
You've gotta be kidding me. You are going to kick the FG here?
They have to. The defense has played well enough to give them a shot at a last drive.
Seriously??? If they go for it and miss their defense can still get them the ball back. A FG does nothing for them.
A FG gives them a chance at the win.
Your logic is very bad...
That FG gives them a chance to drive for the win if the defense gets a stop. If the defense doesn't get a stop, it didn't matter either way.
 
Nice play action pass, Miller needs to see the ball more, guy hand hands like fly paper. Don't know if Cleveland is going to see the ball again... :goodposting:

 
I hate the onside kick too. The field is wet and there's an increased likelihood the Steelers may muff a conventional kick. By doing an onside kick, you just made it easier to recover it AND give them good field position to start.
That wasn't an onside kick.
I know that I didn't want to waste time trying to distinguish the difference between that and a conventional kick...
You usually are good at backpedaling.This isn't one of those times.
I'm not interested in arguing about what name we should give that type of kick.
 
You've gotta be kidding me. You are going to kick the FG here?
They have to. The defense has played well enough to give them a shot at a last drive.
Seriously??? If they go for it and miss their defense can still get them the ball back. A FG does nothing for them.
A FG gives them a chance at the win.
Your logic is very bad...
That FG gives them a chance to drive for the win if the defense gets a stop. If the defense doesn't get a stop, it didn't matter either way.
But if they convert on 4th down and score a TD on that drive, then things are very different.
 
I hate the onside kick too. The field is wet and there's an increased likelihood the Steelers may muff a conventional kick. By doing an onside kick, you just made it easier to recover it AND give them good field position to start.
That wasn't an onside kick.
I know that I didn't want to waste time trying to distinguish the difference between that and a conventional kick...
You usually are good at backpedaling.This isn't one of those times.
I'm not interested in arguing about what name we should give that type of kick.
I wasn't arguing about what name we give the kick.I was pointing out that you're a moron.I wouldn't expect you to notice the difference, though.
 
You've gotta be kidding me. You are going to kick the FG here?
They have to. The defense has played well enough to give them a shot at a last drive.
Seriously??? If they go for it and miss their defense can still get them the ball back. A FG does nothing for them.
A FG gives them a chance at the win.
Your logic is very bad...
That FG gives them a chance to drive for the win if the defense gets a stop. If the defense doesn't get a stop, it didn't matter either way.
The defense doesnt need a stop if they convert the 4th and 7. It wasnt 4th and a mile and they were at the 20. The FG was a dumb call.
 
Cleveland doesn't get the ball back. Game over. Good thing they got the extra 3 points!
I don't think they are getting the ball back unless the steelers score a TD.And that's gonna put Romeo on the hot seat.
 
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Not that it matters in the end, but really teams need to think about hiring someone as a "game manager" because these coaches just have too much going on not to end up being complete idiots when it comes to managing the game.

 
Mendy may need to go get Willie a new pair of pants. A couple more quick rushes and we may see ALOT more of Willie. :kicksrock:

 
5:00 left, at the Steeler 26. Down 10-3. Do you run the hurry up to try to score quickly and get the ball back, or milk the clock and play for OT?
I don't think they are in a hurry. Sure looked like he got hit before the ball was there.
Braylon Edwards definitely got hit before the ball got there and my guess is that the crowd was booing the lack of an interference call and then the decision to punt.
 
It's crazy to me how dumb coaches are with their timeouts.
Astoundingly poor clock management. Yet... we have these discussions every year, where coaches call a timeout at 2:42, which saves roughly 2 or 3 seconds effectively, rather than let the next play go off at 2:03 and save the timeout for after the two minute warning.How can a league where hundreds of millions of dollars are spent per franchise and likely at least $5 million for every coaching staff (and above $10M for some I suppose) not get this right?
 
It is unacceptable to open year 4 at 0-2 and have ZERO playoff appearances. It doesn't take THAT long to build a competitive team. START WINNING GAMES ROMEO. 0-7 against the Steelers is ridiculous.

 
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You've gotta be kidding me. You are going to kick the FG here?
They have to. The defense has played well enough to give them a shot at a last drive.
Seriously??? If they go for it and miss their defense can still get them the ball back. A FG does nothing for them.
A FG gives them a chance at the win.
Your logic is very bad...
That FG gives them a chance to drive for the win if the defense gets a stop. If the defense doesn't get a stop, it didn't matter either way.
But if they convert on 4th down and score a TD on that drive, then things are very different.
They had to gamble on either the offense or defense. The offense hasn't played well yet so they chose the defense. It's not paying off right now, but hind sight is always 20/20. If the D does get the stop and they come back with a TD it looks like a good call.
 
5:00 left, at the Steeler 26. Down 10-3. Do you run the hurry up to try to score quickly and get the ball back, or milk the clock and play for OT?
I don't think they are in a hurry. Sure looked like he got hit before the ball was there.
Braylon Edwards definitely got hit before the ball got there and my guess is that the crowd was booing the lack of an interference call and then the decision to punt.
Steeler DB was inside of him and going for the ball, they won't and don't call that.
 
5:00 left, at the Steeler 26. Down 10-3. Do you run the hurry up to try to score quickly and get the ball back, or milk the clock and play for OT?
I don't think they are in a hurry. Sure looked like he got hit before the ball was there.
Braylon Edwards definitely got hit before the ball got there and my guess is that the crowd was booing the lack of an interference call and then the decision to punt.
Rogers no call on roughing the passer, it all come out in the wash.
 
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Not that it matters in the end, but really teams need to think about hiring someone as a "game manager" because these coaches just have too much going on not to end up being complete idiots when it comes to managing the game.
This could be assigned to someone already on the staff to handle during the game. I would guess some teams actually do have a timeout advisor.
 
You've gotta be kidding me. You are going to kick the FG here?
They have to. The defense has played well enough to give them a shot at a last drive.
Seriously??? If they go for it and miss their defense can still get them the ball back. A FG does nothing for them.
A FG gives them a chance at the win.
Your logic is very bad...
That FG gives them a chance to drive for the win if the defense gets a stop. If the defense doesn't get a stop, it didn't matter either way.
But if they convert on 4th down and score a TD on that drive, then things are very different.
They had to gamble on either the offense or defense. The offense hasn't played well yet so they chose the defense. It's not paying off right now, but hind sight is always 20/20. If the D does get the stop and they come back with a TD it looks like a good call.
Geez... if they gamble and don't get it, they still give their D a chance to get the ball back. And you're right, their O has been bad this game which is exactly you don't want them to have to drive the length of the field again.
 
You've gotta be kidding me. You are going to kick the FG here?
They have to. The defense has played well enough to give them a shot at a last drive.
Seriously??? If they go for it and miss their defense can still get them the ball back. A FG does nothing for them.
A FG gives them a chance at the win.
:thumbdown: Seriously?You can't win if you don't score a touchdown, period. The FG can come in OT to win - at home - but regardless if you don't score 7 in the next 3+ minutes, you're losing the game.
 
Throw it to dropsies again.

And Winslow isn't even in the game.

Cleveland sucks.

 
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Its only week 2 but you have to wonder if the Browns' season rests on these final 26 seconds.

 
It is unacceptable to open year 4 at 0-2 and have ZERO playoff appearances. It doesn't take THAT long to build a competitive team. START WINNING GAMES ROMEO. 0-7 against the Steelers is ridiculous.
Yeah, but the Browns are 3-17 overall since the rebirth, and they actually started 2-1. So that's one win out of the past 17 games against the Steelers. It's not just Romeo.
 
There are 2 ways to look at this game.

1. The Browns were terrible. DA didn't play well. The game was NOT managed well. DBs gave up big plays at the wrong time. The list could go on and on.

2. The Browns played terrible and barely lost to (probably) a pretty solid team. If they can improve game management and BE starts catching the ball, they still have a shot this year.

 

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