Game Thread W2 - San Diego V Denver (1 Viewer)

[Tau837]

The NFL needs to consider adding some form of penalty to be applied in a situation when the refs can see on replay they clearly missed a call like this, resulting in the wrong team getting the ball. Like move the ball 20 yards back from the spot or something if rules prevent the deserving team from having the ball.

 

[Michael Brown]

That's it. One of the worst referee'd games in history.

That is not correct at all.Denver got the benefit of one bad call by the refs---ONE. The other one was a fault by the NFL replay system technology. Nothing to do with the refs or Denver.

This is COMPLETELY incorrect. You don't put any blame on the crew for not getting the call right in the first place? Had they gotten it right to begin with, it wouldn't have mattered if the machines were working or not.

I watched the game, Did you or are you relying on ESPN to show you replays?The fumble/INt whatever was called a fumble recovery on the field. And when they showed the replays before going to commercial, it looked like a tough call. Then when CBS came back with the slow mo replay, it showed that his left arm was down. Had they had the view, it would have been overturned, it wouldn't have stood, but the refs on the field had it right based on their field of vision and not without the benefit of slow mo replay, It was one of those split second replays, What about the no-call on Stokely on the goal line where he got hit as the ball arrived. If you look at in slow mo, the DB was there before the ball. It was a no-call. No big deal, the play moved on....

Yes I watched the game. I watch all the Charger games and do just about all of the recap game summaries for this site for them for the past however many years.Anyway since you acknowledge the fact that replays confirmed that Chambers should've been ruled down, that means they blew the call in the first place. Which is all I was saying. Good to see we agree.

 

[Tubalcane]

Well If you believe in Karma...this is payback to Rivers for flapping his gums last year.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Did Norv have his press conference yet?

 

[Courtjester]

That's it. One of the worst referee'd games in history.

That is not correct at all.Denver got the benefit of one bad call by the refs---ONE. The other one was a fault by the NFL replay system technology. Nothing to do with the refs or Denver.

This is COMPLETELY incorrect. You don't put any blame on the crew for not getting the call right in the first place? Had they gotten it right to begin with, it wouldn't have mattered if the machines were working or not.

I watched the game, Did you or are you relying on ESPN to show you replays?The fumble/INt whatever was called a fumble recovery on the field. And when they showed the replays before going to commercial, it looked like a tough call. Then when CBS came back with the slow mo replay, it showed that his left arm was down. Had they had the view, it would have been overturned, it wouldn't have stood, but the refs on the field had it right based on their field of vision and not without the benefit of slow mo replay, It was one of those split second replays, What about the no-call on Stokely on the goal line where he got hit as the ball arrived. If you look at in slow mo, the DB was there before the ball. It was a no-call. No big deal, the play moved on....

Yes I watched the game. I watch all the Charger games and do just about all of the recap game summaries for this site for them for the past however many years.Anyway since you acknowledge the fact that replays confirmed that Chambers should've been ruled down, that means they blew the call in the first place. Which is all I was saying. Good to see we agree.

Exactly. I am not going to defend a completely indefensible position. SD got the short end of a game changing call. Bottom line.But if either of these teams don't start spending some time on defense., it won't matter who wins the division, because both of them won't last past the 1st round of the playoffs.

 

[Despyzer]

Well If you believe in Karma...this is payback to Rivers for flapping his gums last year.

Rivers wasn't even on the field. Karma must be pretty dang stupid.

 

[Carver Lee]

Everyone needs to think back to before replay altogether. There were multiple travesties every week. I'd venture to say that the NFL has a system in place that ensures 98+% accuracy. Be thankful for it instead of writing letters to the league when your team falls in the 2%. Sorry it had to happen to you sunny san diego but maybe this is a sign that it's just not your year.

 

[MSULions]

that is the most ridiculous screw job i've ever seen. utterly and completely shamefully bad. Ed Hochuli should be fired.

aw calm down. When it slipped out of his hand Hoch was behind him, and when he followed through his hand hit the ball. IT was a mistake, but not as bad as homers are making it.I personally thought it could have been called a commensurate recovery.

But even if it was deemed a pass, it was a backward pass, meaning the ball was live. The ball landed behind where it was thrown. So they blew the same play twice. First, by ruling it a pass, and then compounding that by ignoring the fact that it was backwards.

exactly! there is nothing about that play that indicated an incomplete FORWARD pass - which is what he called. no matter what angle you are looking at, it went almost directly backwards..landing a couple of yards behind Cutler and then recovered by the Chargers. even if you go with pass, it went backwards. i don't give a rats ### about the whistle...he could have just as easily said it was an inadvertent whistle once he saw how obvious it was. to give them the game like that is beyond reprehensible.

 

[Skino]

I'm a Broncos fan and completely acknowledge that refs blew two calls.

But I definitely don't miss SD fans getting all up in arms about it.



The fact that the situation was what it was says that even though it was a blown call, it's not like it was a win for SD that was given to the Broncos. Denver played well and was in the game and driving down to the potential score. The turnover would have been a fluke anyway.

 

[Kruppe]

that is the most ridiculous screw job i've ever seen. utterly and completely shamefully bad. Ed Hochuli should be fired.

aw calm down. When it slipped out of his hand Hoch was behind him, and when he followed through his hand hit the ball. IT was a mistake, but not as bad as homers are making it.I personally thought it could have been called a commensurate recovery.

But even if it was deemed a pass, it was a backward pass, meaning the ball was live. The ball landed behind where it was thrown. So they blew the same play twice. First, by ruling it a pass, and then compounding that by ignoring the fact that it was backwards.

exactly! there is nothing about that play that indicated an incomplete FORWARD pass - which is what he called. no matter what angle you are looking at, it went almost directly backwards..landing a couple of yards behind Cutler and then recovered by the Chargers. even if you go with pass, it went backwards. i don't give a rats ### about the whistle...he could have just as easily said it was an inadvertent whistle once he saw how obvious it was. to give them the game like that is beyond reprehensible.

He called it a fumble and a dead ball where it landed. If he had called an incomplete pass it would have been at the previous spot.

 

[Tau837]

that is the most ridiculous screw job i've ever seen. utterly and completely shamefully bad. Ed Hochuli should be fired.

aw calm down. When it slipped out of his hand Hoch was behind him, and when he followed through his hand hit the ball. IT was a mistake, but not as bad as homers are making it.I personally thought it could have been called a commensurate recovery.

But even if it was deemed a pass, it was a backward pass, meaning the ball was live. The ball landed behind where it was thrown. So they blew the same play twice. First, by ruling it a pass, and then compounding that by ignoring the fact that it was backwards.

exactly! there is nothing about that play that indicated an incomplete FORWARD pass - which is what he called. no matter what angle you are looking at, it went almost directly backwards..landing a couple of yards behind Cutler and then recovered by the Chargers. even if you go with pass, it went backwards. i don't give a rats ### about the whistle...he could have just as easily said it was an inadvertent whistle once he saw how obvious it was. to give them the game like that is beyond reprehensible.

He called it a fumble and a dead ball where it landed. If he had called an incomplete pass it would have been at the previous spot.

What are you talking about? In live action, he blew the whistle and ruled an incomplete pass.It was after looking at the replay that he said that it should have been ruled a fumble but because the whistle was blown the ball had to be considered dead where it hit the ground and remain Denver's ball.We are discussing the live action call. As far as I know, they applied the rules correctly after the call was blown in the first place. But that's the issue under discussion - the fact that it was blown in the first place.

 

[Tau837]

I'm a Broncos fan and completely acknowledge that refs blew two calls.But I definitely don't miss SD fans getting all up in arms about it. The fact that the situation was what it was says that even though it was a blown call, it's not like it was a win for SD that was given to the Broncos. Denver played well and was in the game and driving down to the potential score. The turnover would have been a fluke anyway.

A fluke like their turnover on their previous trip into the red zone?

 

[massraider]

That's it. One of the worst referee'd games in history.

That is not correct at all.Denver got the benefit of one bad call by the refs---ONE. The other one was a fault by the NFL replay system technology. Nothing to do with the refs or Denver. It was a machine, and even that replay might not have shown a conclusive result to overturn the call on the field.I am glad Denver won, but you had to admit that going for two had to be some kind of shout out by Shanny to SD "You got screwed by a call, here is a way to make things right."Come on, this was a great, great game. Both offensive teams played off the hook and this was a great, great game. Don't let one call take that away.Just think what you would be saying if Denver missed that two....

No good game can be decided by a referee that blew it so bad he admitted it on air during the game.

So what was he supposed to do?He can't call a redo.It was a clear blown call. I admit it. It was a fumble--plain and simple. But SD had recourse, if they stiopped Denver on the next 2 plays or perhaps the 2 point conversion (that is 3 total plays BTW) they win and all is right.I mean ED is one of the most solid refs in the game and you all know it. This isn't a victory you can proud of, but what can be done about it?

Yep, the blown whistle sucks, but that is what these guys do, blow whistles after incomplete passes.The replay machine malfunction is just as big, Chargers have a bigger beef there in my mind. On the Cutler play, it was nothing the Chargers did to force that fumble. The ball slipped out of Cutler's hands. And they still could have stopped Denver (This is the 'Tuck' Game argument). More than one chance to do that, in fact. On the conversion as well.My one thing with Hochuli is that it seems like a person would think the refs would be more cognizant of the fact that the ball is slipping out of the QBs hand more often it seems, and maybe they shouldn't be so quick to blow it dead. Russell did the same thing last Monday, and that ref got it right.