Game Thread W3 - Green Bay V Chicago (1 Viewer)

[Mr.Pack]

Can anyone find the hold there? Not you, MP.

I just rewound it. The ref threw the flag at the 20, the camera picked the play up at the 12, so it had to have happened around the 20.Whomever the flag was called on, didn't even argue the call.

wow much? The guy they called it on wasn't even near anybody.

Go sleep it off.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Can anyone find the hold there? Not you, MP.

I just rewound it. The ref threw the flag at the 20, the camera picked the play up at the 12, so it had to have happened around the 20.Whomever the flag was called on, didn't even argue the call.

wow much? The guy they called it on wasn't even near anybody.

the guy they called it on ran off the field pointing at himself accepting the blame. lets not be sore losers here. extremely sloppy game on both sides. pack consistently handing the game to the bears, and the bears consistently handing it right back.

sore losers? Are you and Mr. Pack so blind drunk off milwaukee's finest that you are mistaking me for a bears fan? I am just telling it like it is. I am sure they will break it down on the post game shows. Bu the refs and pack got so / caught with their pants down by maybe the best designed punt return in any of our lifetimes. It's a shame they did't get rewarded for it. If anything I was hoping for a tie so all you ####ers would be proverbially kissing your sisters, but then again you're probably doing that anyways...

 

[MSULions]

i enjoy nothing more than watching the Bears lose, but that was some serious BS right there. That was a brilliant fake...seemed like Hester just did it on his own, no? but the kick was obviously heading in the other direction....just a bizarre play all around.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Can anyone find the hold there? Not you, MP.

I just rewound it. The ref threw the flag at the 20, the camera picked the play up at the 12, so it had to have happened around the 20.Whomever the flag was called on, didn't even argue the call.

wow much? The guy they called it on wasn't even near anybody.

the guy they called it on ran off the field pointing at himself accepting the blame. lets not be sore losers here. extremely sloppy game on both sides. pack consistently handing the game to the bears, and the bears consistently handing it right back.

sore losers? Are you and Mr. Pack so blind drunk off milwaukee's finest that you are mistaking me for a bears fan? I am just telling it like it is. I am sure they will break it down on the post game shows. Bu the refs and pack got so / caught with their pants down by maybe the best designed punt return in any of our lifetimes. It's a shame they did't get rewarded for it. If anything I was hoping for a tie so all you ####ers would be kissing your sisters, but then agai you're probably doing that anyways...

Go snort a few more lines.You're killing me here.

 

[Reepicheep]

On the one hand I generally agree that it didn't seem like the best spot to break out that play. But it may have been they felt the Packers ST was specifically vulnerable, based on coverage and punt location tendencies, so they had to use it when they had the chance. Never seen anything like that though, not every week you can say you saw something truly new in the NFL. Definitely curious about the holding call.

As far as the refs, meh, some iffy calls both ways, but really the mistakes and miscues by both teams really drowned out the officiating in my opinion.

 

[The Kerminator]

"phantom" hold during punt

Pause it at :01 mark, upper left corner. Hold is on number 29 holding Jarret Bush

ETA: occurs at the 35 yard line

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

"phantom" hold during punt

Pause it at :01 mark, upper left corner. Hold is on number 29 holding Jarret Bush

ETA: occurs at the 35 yard line

Well that's not who the hold was called on. The flag comes much later after the team was down the field. On any kickoff or play you can go back and find a block that could be called a hold. Either way it ain't gonna change the outcome.

 

[AB in DC]

"phantom" hold during punt

Pause it at :01 mark, upper left corner. Hold is on number 29 holding Jarret Bush

Nope, call was on #21 Corey Graham.By the way, the video was supposed to be on NFL.com, but now the video is "no longer available". What's going on here?

 

[roadkill1292]

That call was some weak sauce.

 

[Reepicheep]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

 

[flapgreen]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

Yeah that's pretty ridiculous.

 

[Reepicheep]

So we've gone from "there was no hold", to video evidence of a hold, to "the ref couldn't have seen the hold that he called!". Are you guys serious?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

So we've gone from "there was no hold", to video evidence of a hold, to "the ref couldn't have seen the hold that he called!". Are you guys serious?

1) Im a Steeler fan.2) Ive never commented on this play yet.

3) Im only stating the obvious, the ref cant legitimately make that call unless he has x-ray vision... that works from 40+ yards away.

4) YOU HAVE TO PLAY BETTER THEN REFS OFFICIATE.

Otherwise you dont deserve to win. Refs will make mistakes, its the nature of the game.

This was a mistake, nothing more. I was just pointing it out in exacting terms. The Bears didn't do enough to win, thus they dont get the victory.

 

[The Kerminator]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

What? Please explain. If he could see the coverage man's body get pulled, if it wasn't a hold, what else could it have been? Aliens? Ghosts? Swarm of Gnats?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

What? Please explain. If he could see the coverage man's body get pulled, if it wasn't a hold, what else could it have been? Aliens? Ghosts? Swarm of Gnats?

He has to see the infraction... not the result of a potential/possible infraction. He could NOT see the hold, he had to guess that it in fact happened. Got it?

 

[The Kerminator]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

What? Please explain. If he could see the coverage man's body get pulled, if it wasn't a hold, what else could it have been? Aliens? Ghosts? Swarm of Gnats?

He has to see the infraction... not the result of a potential/possible infraction. He could NOT see the hold, he had to guess that it in fact happened. Got it?

Seriously?And please explain how there was no possible way he could see the hold? There is nothing in his line of sight between him and the infraction. And please don't tell because he was standing behind the 4th & 4 sign.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

What? Please explain. If he could see the coverage man's body get pulled, if it wasn't a hold, what else could it have been? Aliens? Ghosts? Swarm of Gnats?

He has to see the infraction... not the result of a potential/possible infraction. He could NOT see the hold, he had to guess that it in fact happened. Got it?

Seriously?And please explain how there was no possible way he could see the hold? There is nothing in his line of sight between him and the infraction. And please don't tell because he was standing behind the 4th & 4 sign.

Because his/blocker hand is on the opposite side of the players/coverage body. He could not possibly see his hand grab the jersey. Impossible.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

You've determined this based on the picture in that link?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

You've determined this based on the picture in that link?

As well as a couple hundred instant replays and videos of the play that I keep getting subjected to.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

You've determined this based on the picture in that link?

As well as a couple hundred instant replays and videos of the play that I keep getting subjected to.

You are certainly a much more perceptive man than I!

 

[smackdaddies]

Bears Fans Can't Face Reality. Cutler is not a great QB, and it was a hold

 

[Mr.Pack]

Bears Fans Can't Face Reality. Cutler is not a great QB, and it was a hold

 

[Mr.Pack]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

Psssssst: That sign is only on the TV. The ref could clearly see him running then get pulled back.

 

[Reepicheep]

Saw the replay on NFL Primetime. The hold by #21 on #24 happens while the camera is still behind the punter. Here's a picture:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6187710952_055156afe3_o.jpg

The ref who throws the flag, you can see his feet under the 4th & 4 sign, has no possibly way of seeing that hold. None.He could only see the coverage mans body get pulled and guess as to there being a hold. That's not his responsibility and that's bogus..

Psssssst: That sign is only on the TV. The ref could clearly see him running then get pulled back.

No you don't understand, from that distance the ref could not have possibly seen #21's individual fingers physically grasping the pads of #24, therefore he should have assumed #24 experienced a violent spasm in his back that caused his entire body to bend backwards in the direction of #21, at the precise moment #21 reached his arm out to touch #24.