R. Ninkovich... umm what position us he lining up at? Did someone get hurt?
Or a large contract.game like this should get a special teams coach fired
In an era of free agency and parity, you can't dominate for ever.Have you been paying attention the last couple years on D? NE has purposely let free agents walk away or traded away guys in their prime (i.e. Seymour) in order to deal with the cap. The D is a D in transition. Every damn guy out there is first or second year. They are sub-par right now but I guarantee you by end of the year they'll be much improved.When I say "suck" it's relative to what us New Englanders have come to expect of this Belichick run organization. They obviously don't suck, but they suck in comparison to what we're used to seeing. Ryan Fitzpatrick looked great against us last week. Henne will march down and score again right now. Their defense sucks, and the offense is good but not great as it once was. I blame it on coaching, and not Brady, Moss, etc. We've let too many key players/personnel go in recent years and it shows.A shell? Really? I was talking about this earlier but I didn't take it as far as you. A team with Brady, Moss, Welker, Woodhead and Lawfirm is not capable of sucking. They've got a young defense and hopefully they'll realize who they are playing for. Watch some film of those teams of the oughts. The teams that turned around a franchise. The teams that would instill fear in any opponent. Not really sure you can say this team sucks.I'm not gonna pretend, the Pats suck. It's painful to watch them as they are a shell of their former dynasty selves.
We had one of the best - Mike Westoff - but Wanstache canned him for no good reason.game like this should get a special teams coach fired
I don't show the tackle on my total. If he could get a couple tackles it would seal my win. But no. He's gonna block kicks all night. Crap.Chung 2 blocks, 1 tackle, 1 point![]()
To the Jets no less...We had one of the best - Mike Westoff - but Wanstache canned him for no good reason.game like this should get a special teams coach fired
I don't show the tackle on my total. If he could get a couple tackles it would seal my win. But no. He's gonna block kicks all night. Crap.Chung 2 blocks, 1 tackle, 1 point![]()
Best shtick of the night.And oh by the way, NE throughout the best of times plays HORRIBLY in Miami historically.I'll take 3-1 with a victory down here with the only loss being to the Jets.In an era of free agency and parity, you can't dominate for ever.Have you been paying attention the last couple years on D? NE has purposely let free agents walk away or traded away guys in their prime (i.e. Seymour) in order to deal with the cap. The D is a D in transition. Every damn guy out there is first or second year. They are sub-par right now but I guarantee you by end of the year they'll be much improved.When I say "suck" it's relative to what us New Englanders have come to expect of this Belichick run organization. They obviously don't suck, but they suck in comparison to what we're used to seeing. Ryan Fitzpatrick looked great against us last week. Henne will march down and score again right now. Their defense sucks, and the offense is good but not great as it once was. I blame it on coaching, and not Brady, Moss, etc. We've let too many key players/personnel go in recent years and it shows.A shell? Really? I was talking about this earlier but I didn't take it as far as you. A team with Brady, Moss, Welker, Woodhead and Lawfirm is not capable of sucking. They've got a young defense and hopefully they'll realize who they are playing for. Watch some film of those teams of the oughts. The teams that turned around a franchise. The teams that would instill fear in any opponent. Not really sure you can say this team sucks.I'm not gonna pretend, the Pats suck. It's painful to watch them as they are a shell of their former dynasty selves.
And on offense, are you expecting to see a repeat of their historic offensive run from a couple years ago?
Jeez. Appreciate what you got guy.
KY
I'm a lifetime pats fan, I really don't need a need a history lesson from you KY. Us Bostonians need to air our negativity once in a while, it's in our blood.And oh by the way, NE throughout the best of times plays HORRIBLY in Miami historically.I'll take 3-1 with a victory down here with the only loss being to the Jets.In an era of free agency and parity, you can't dominate for ever.Have you been paying attention the last couple years on D? NE has purposely let free agents walk away or traded away guys in their prime (i.e. Seymour) in order to deal with the cap. The D is a D in transition. Every damn guy out there is first or second year. They are sub-par right now but I guarantee you by end of the year they'll be much improved.When I say "suck" it's relative to what us New Englanders have come to expect of this Belichick run organization. They obviously don't suck, but they suck in comparison to what we're used to seeing. Ryan Fitzpatrick looked great against us last week. Henne will march down and score again right now. Their defense sucks, and the offense is good but not great as it once was. I blame it on coaching, and not Brady, Moss, etc. We've let too many key players/personnel go in recent years and it shows.A shell? Really? I was talking about this earlier but I didn't take it as far as you. A team with Brady, Moss, Welker, Woodhead and Lawfirm is not capable of sucking. They've got a young defense and hopefully they'll realize who they are playing for. Watch some film of those teams of the oughts. The teams that turned around a franchise. The teams that would instill fear in any opponent. Not really sure you can say this team sucks.I'm not gonna pretend, the Pats suck. It's painful to watch them as they are a shell of their former dynasty selves.
And on offense, are you expecting to see a repeat of their historic offensive run from a couple years ago?
Jeez. Appreciate what you got guy.
KY
KY
In an era of free agency and parity, you can't dominate for ever.Have you been paying attention the last couple years on D? NE has purposely let free agents walk away or traded away guys in their prime (i.e. Seymour) in order to deal with the cap. The D is a D in transition. Every damn guy out there is first or second year. They are sub-par right now but I guarantee you by end of the year they'll be much improved.When I say "suck" it's relative to what us New Englanders have come to expect of this Belichick run organization. They obviously don't suck, but they suck in comparison to what we're used to seeing. Ryan Fitzpatrick looked great against us last week. Henne will march down and score again right now. Their defense sucks, and the offense is good but not great as it once was. I blame it on coaching, and not Brady, Moss, etc. We've let too many key players/personnel go in recent years and it shows.A shell? Really? I was talking about this earlier but I didn't take it as far as you. A team with Brady, Moss, Welker, Woodhead and Lawfirm is not capable of sucking. They've got a young defense and hopefully they'll realize who they are playing for. Watch some film of those teams of the oughts. The teams that turned around a franchise. The teams that would instill fear in any opponent. Not really sure you can say this team sucks.I'm not gonna pretend, the Pats suck. It's painful to watch them as they are a shell of their former dynasty selves.
And on offense, are you expecting to see a repeat of their historic offensive run from a couple years ago?
Jeez. Appreciate what you got guy.
KY
There aren't any dominate teams anymore. Hell even the Colts are 2-2. It's impossible to keep teams together anymore with free agency and the cap.thanks new england special teams for destroying any production from the NE passing game tonight
Killed me!When was the last time Randy Moss was held without a catch? Does anybody know?thanks new england special teams for destroying any production from the NE passing game tonightKilled me!
2006-11-19 29-279 OAK @ KANWhen was the last time Randy Moss was held without a catch? Does anybody know?thanks new england special teams for destroying any production from the NE passing game tonightKilled me!
November 19, 2006 when he was an Oakland RaiderWhen was the last time Randy Moss was held without a catch? Does anybody know?thanks new england special teams for destroying any production from the NE passing game tonightKilled me!
Might be SOL.Just need 1 more point from A2Marshall.

SURELY CHUNG GETS POINTS FOR THAT?!?!!

They did, and it stopped a long time. It was a sack, but the clock should have restarted when the ball was ready.Was it me or did they stop the clock on Brady's scramble at 9:23 left in the game.
And it just keeps going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!thanks new england special teams for destroying any production from the NE passing game tonightKilled me!
Nevermind. I also have Patrick Chung in that IDP league. kthxbye.Dear Pats, can I please, please get five points in my PPR league out of Moss? Please?
Dear Dolphins, please get Brandon Marshall a bunch of garbage yards and a TD for my other league.