Game Thread W4 - Seattle V Washington (1 Viewer)

[Mario Kart]

Jackson?Dinged?What? How many targets?

 

[jurb26]

Jackson?

Dinged?

What? How many targets?

Why are so many of you surprised that the Was D is shutting these guys down? I benched SA for this game due to that very reason.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Jackson?

Dinged?

What? How many targets?

Why are so many of you surprised that the Was D is shutting these guys down? I benched SA for this game due to that very reason.

Because Joe Gibbs is washed up. Didn't you get that memo? It was right with the TPS reports memo.

 

[jwvdcw]

Jackson?

Dinged?

What?  How many targets?

Why are so many of you surprised that the Was D is shutting these guys down? I benched SA for this game due to that very reason.

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[jurb26]

Jackson?

Dinged?

What? How many targets?

Why are so many of you surprised that the Was D is shutting these guys down? I benched SA for this game due to that very reason.

Because Joe Gibbs is washed up. Didn't you get that memo? It was right with the TPS reports memo.

 

[Mario Kart]

Jackson?

Dinged?

What?  How many targets?

Why are so many of you surprised that the Was D is shutting these guys down? I benched SA for this game due to that very reason.

Not surprised they are shutting them down... just wondering how the game is going as I cannot view it myself. Honestly, it looks to be like a good game... I like a defensive game myself.

 

[jurb26]

Jackson?

Dinged?

What? How many targets?

Why are so many of you surprised that the Was D is shutting these guys down? I benched SA for this game due to that very reason.

Not surprised they are shutting them down... just wondering how the game is going as I cannot view it myself. Honestly, it looks to be like a good game... I like a defensive game myself.

Well, basically Wash is dominating the game. They are controling the ball and killing in TOP. Sea and their O is simply not geting much of a chance to do much. Even when they do, the Wash D is stoping them for the most part.

 

[Mario Kart]

Jackson?

Dinged?

What?  How many targets?

Why are so many of you surprised that the Was D is shutting these guys down? I benched SA for this game due to that very reason.

Not surprised they are shutting them down... just wondering how the game is going as I cannot view it myself. Honestly, it looks to be like a good game... I like a defensive game myself.

Well, basically Wash is dominating the game. They are controling the ball and killing in TOP. Sea and their O is simply not geting much of a chance to do much. Even when they do, the Wash D is stoping them for the most part.

Just saw at halftime updates... TOP = 22:00 vs. 8:00. Cant do much without the ball.

 

[OneEastRiver]

Are you kidding me with Engram? Every play.

 

[CheeseHead]

WHat going on with Jackson ??

 

[jwvdcw]

seattle comes out strong to start the 2nd half

 

[jurb26]

Jackson 3 rec on this drive, you guys can settle down now.

 

[OneEastRiver]

Alright. DJax starting to get involved now.

 

[Double_J]

DJax 4/18 now, 3 catches on the opening possession of the second half for 18 yards.

 

[jurb26]

Wow, that sack was huge.

 

[jwvdcw]

nice. Now we're even with the missed FGs.

 

[GreedoShotFirst]

nice 15 yarder by Portis

 

[jurb26]

nice 15 yarder by Portis

This Skins O is looking MUCH better after the bye week.

 

[jwvdcw]

nice 15 yarder by Portis

This Skins O is looking MUCH better after the bye week.

the question is, what do we attritbute it to:Momentum from Dallas game?

Offense finally clicking?

Seattle simply a terrible road team?

Bye week rest helping them out?

The first two options would be better for the Skins because they show that perhaps that Skins have finally turned their poor O around. But the last two could just be a fluke for this week. So which is it? The Skins don't need a powerhouse offense...just a ball control/no mistakes offense, which is just what they're doing here.

 

[GreedoShotFirst]

TD Brunell to Mike "Peter" Sellers! This one is done

 

[jwvdcw]

can anyone explain the PI call to me as I'm not seeing the game.

 

[The Scorpion]

Seattle's rush D is not that good, Portis rips off a nice 13 yarder, then 2 yards. Then on first 2 downs after that they try and pass-----GIVE PORTIS THE BALL---and yes I am a Portis owner.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Brunell >> Peyton Manning

 

[jwvdcw]

TD!!!

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

nice 15 yarder by Portis

This Skins O is looking MUCH better after the bye week.

the question is, what do we attritbute it to:

I would attribute it to.1) Ramsey getting a concuscion

2) Brunell being healthier than he was last year

3) Brunell starting to get comfortable with his new receivers when he worked with the 2nd team most of the pre-season

It was pretty obvious to me that Brunell was throwing the ball a lot better this year.

 

[plinko]

nice 15 yarder by Portis

This Skins O is looking MUCH better after the bye week.

the question is, what do we attritbute it to:Momentum from Dallas game?

Offense finally clicking?

Seattle simply a terrible road team?

Bye week rest helping them out?

The first two options would be better for the Skins because they show that perhaps that Skins have finally turned their poor O around. But the last two could just be a fluke for this week. So which is it? The Skins don't need a powerhouse offense...just a ball control/no mistakes offense, which is just what they're doing here.

Mark Brunell actually looks like he knows what he's doing, which is a first for a Redskins QB since Brad Johnson.

 

[mad sweeney]

Horrible call. I was on the phone when it happened telling my buddy I thought the refs were doing a really good job, letting the players play and taking time to get it right. That's one of the worst calls I've seen all year.

 

[Knightro]

The time of possession is awesome in this game. The Seahawks simply can't keep the offense on the field and the Redskins are just chewing up clock time.On the other hand...the Skins are a fantasy wasteland. Even when they do score, Robert Royal and Mike Sellers?

 

[mad sweeney]

And I gotta mention with that last grab from DJax, THE DROPSIES ARE GONE!!!!!

 

[GreedoShotFirst]

hell of a run by Alexander.

 

[Game Time]

SA for 35 yards!

 

[plinko]

Nice run by SA... he's alive

 

[jurb26]

Sea and SA coming alive, but Wash D has really been stepping up when the get inside the 30.

 

[plinko]

WHooo here we go ShaunGlad the skins have pulled it together but I need something from SA

 

[plinko]

roxor

 

[jurb26]

TD SA

 

[jwvdcw]

guess we have a game

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Chris Cooley!

 

[Kleck]

Just how bad is the Washington offense? Pretty bad. So far in this game I've seen Washington in 3rd and 9, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10, and 9. They've picked up all of these but one, and they have only 17 points in the game. When they face a better defense they're going to get killed.

 

[jwvdcw]

Just how bad is the Washington offense? Pretty bad. So far in this game I've seen Washington in 3rd and 9, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10, and 9. They've picked up all of these but one, and they have only 17 points in the game. When they face a better defense they're going to get killed.

Are you being serious?The Skins have no 3 and outs, 17 points through 3 quarters, and have DOMINATED time of possession. Thats is bad offense?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Important drive here for Seattle.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Just how bad is the Washington offense? Pretty bad. So far in this game I've seen Washington in 3rd and 9, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10, and 9. They've picked up all of these but one, and they have only 17 points in the game. When they face a better defense they're going to get killed.

 

[jurb26]

Just how bad is the Washington offense? Pretty bad. So far in this game I've seen Washington in 3rd and 9, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10, and 9. They've picked up all of these but one, and they have only 17 points in the game. When they face a better defense they're going to get killed.

 

[jwvdcw]

Here are the Washington drives for everyone to judge for themselves. Note the time of possession, which is probably the key stat for a team like Washington that relies upon defense:1-10-WAS29 (14:55) M.Brunell pass incomplete to S.Moss. 2-10-WAS29 (14:49) C.Portis left tackle to WAS 30 for 1 yard (M.Tubbs; C.Darby). 3-9-WAS30 (14:12) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass to J.Thrash to WAS 44 for 14 yards (A.Dyson). 1-10-WAS44 (13:32) M.Brunell pass to D.Patten to WAS 44 for no gain (K.Bentley). 2-10-WAS44 (12:52) C.Portis right end to SEA 47 for 9 yards (L.Tatupu). 3-1-SEA47 (12:10) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass to S.Moss pushed ob at SEA 39 for 8 yards (K.Herndon). 1-10-SEA39 (11:51) C.Portis left end to SEA 29 for 10 yards (M.Trufant). Trufant (23) shaken up on the play 1-10-SEA29 (11:17) L.Betts left guard to SEA 23 for 6 yards (R.Bernard). 2-4-SEA23 (10:41) C.Portis left tackle to SEA 20 for 3 yards (L.Tatupu). 3-1-SEA20 (10:07) C.Portis right guard to SEA 20 for no gain (C.Darby). 4-1-SEA20 (9:31) C.Portis right tackle to SEA 16 for 4 yards (L.Tatupu). 1-10-SEA16 (8:54) C.Portis right guard to SEA 13 for 3 yards (M.Tubbs). 2-7-SEA13 (8:14) M.Brunell pass incomplete to C.Cooley. 3-7-SEA13 (8:07) M.Brunell sacked at SEA 21 for -8 yards (M.Boulware). 4-15-SEA21 (7:52) N.Novak 39 yard field goal is BLOCKED (C.Terrill), Center-E.Albright, Holder-D.Frost, RECOVERED by SEA-A.Dyson at 50. A.Dyson to 50 for no gain (B.Kozlowski). 1-10-WAS20 (5:58) PENALTY on WAS, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 20 - No Play. 1-15-WAS15 (5:51) C.Portis right end to WAS 17 for 2 yards (C.Terrill, D.Lewis). 2-13-WAS17 (5:18) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass incomplete to S.Moss. 3-13-WAS17 (5:11) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass to J.Thrash to WAS 33 for 16 yards (M.Boulware). 1-10-WAS33 (4:32) M.Brunell pass to D.Patten pushed ob at WAS 37 for 4 yards (M.Trufant). 2-6-WAS37 (4:10) M.Brunell sacked at WAS 30 for -7 yards (L.Tatupu). 3-13-WAS30 (3:39) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass to S.Moss to WAS 45 for 15 yards (A.Dyson). 1-10-WAS45 (2:54) L.Betts right tackle to SEA 46 for 9 yards (M.Boulware). 2-1-SEA46 (2:20) L.Betts right tackle to SEA 46 for no gain (L.Tatupu, M.Manuel). 3-1-SEA46 (1:42) M.Brunell pass incomplete to S.Moss. PENALTY on SEA-D.Lewis, Defensive Pass Interference, 6 yards, enforced at SEA 46 - No Play. 1-10-SEA40 (1:36) L.Betts right end to SEA 43 for -3 yards (C.Darby; L.Tatupu). 2-13-SEA43 54) L.Betts right guard to SEA 42 for 1 yard (B.Fisher). 3-12-SEA42 15) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass incomplete to D.Patten (A.Dyson). 4-12-SEA42 11) D.Frost punts 42 yards to end zone, Center-E.Albright, Touchback. 1-10-WAS15 (10:46) M.Brunell pass to D.Patten to WAS 26 for 11 yards (A.Dyson). 1-10-WAS26 (10:12) C.Portis left end to WAS 28 for 2 yards (D.Lewis). 2-8-WAS28 (9:35) M.Brunell pass to S.Moss to WAS 41 for 13 yards (A.Dyson). 1-10-WAS41 (8:52) C.Portis right end to WAS 45 for 4 yards (J.Sharper). 2-6-WAS45 (8:21) C.Portis right end to WAS 49 for 4 yards (R.Bernard). 3-2-WAS49 (7:42) M.Brunell pass to C.Cooley pushed ob at SEA 40 for 11 yards (D.Lewis). 1-10-SEA40 (7:11) M.Brunell pass to C.Cooley to SEA 23 for 17 yards (M.Manuel). 1-10-SEA23 (6:24) C.Portis left guard to SEA 23 for no gain (C.Darby). 2-10-SEA23 (5:45) M.Brunell pass incomplete to D.Patten. 3-10-SEA23 (5:39) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass to R.Royal to SEA 13 for 10 yards (B.Fisher, K.Bentley). 1-10-SEA13 (5:18) M.Brunell pass incomplete to S.Moss. Play Challenged by WAS and Upheld. (Timeout #1 by WAS.) 2-10-SEA13 (5:10) C.Portis right tackle to SEA 10 for 3 yards (K.Bentley). 3-7-SEA10 (4:33) M.Brunell pass to S.Moss to SEA 2 for 8 yards (A.Dyson). 1-2-SEA2 (3:49) C.Portis right end to SEA 1 for 1 yard (R.Bernard). Penalty on SEA, Defensive 12 On-field, declined. 2-1-SEA1 (3:29) C.Portis left guard to SEA 1 for no gain (K.Herndon). 3-1-SEA1 (2:44) M.Brunell pass to R.Royal for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN. N.Novak extra point is GOOD, Center-E.Albright, Holder-D.Frost. 1-10-WAS22 39) L.Betts left guard to WAS 26 for 4 yards (I.Kacyvenski). 1-10-WAS38 (9:36) C.Portis right end to SEA 49 for 13 yards (G.Wistrom; M.Boulware). 1-10-SEA49 (9:01) C.Portis left end to SEA 47 for 2 yards (L.Tatupu). 2-8-SEA47 (8:25) M.Brunell pass to C.Cooley to SEA 33 for 14 yards (J.Sharper). 1-10-SEA33 (7:46) M.Brunell pass incomplete to C.Cooley. Flea flicker 2-10-SEA33 (7:37) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass incomplete. Brunell threw the ball out of bounds 3-10-SEA33 (7:31) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass incomplete to D.Patten. PENALTY on SEA-M.Boulware, Defensive Pass Interference, 29 yards, enforced at SEA 33 - No Play. 1-4-SEA4 (7:24) M.Brunell pass to M.Sellers for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN. N.Novak extra point is GOOD, Center-E.Albright, Holder-D.Frost. 1-10-WAS29 (4:05) M.Brunell pass incomplete to D.Patten. 2-10-WAS29 (4:01) C.Portis right end to WAS 30 for 1 yard (A.Dyson, B.Fisher). 3-9-WAS30 (3:23) (Shotgun) M.Brunell pass to C.Portis to WAS 42 for 12 yards (D.Lewis). 1-10-WAS42 (2:43) C.Portis right end to WAS 49 for 7 yards (D.Lewis). 2-3-WAS49 (2:05) L.Betts left guard to SEA 45 for 6 yards (M.Tubbs). 1-10-SEA45 (1:32) M.Brunell pass to C.Cooley to SEA 26 for 19 yards (K.Hamlin). 1-10-SEA26 54) L.Betts left guard to SEA 22 for 4 yards (B.Fisher; D.Lewis). 2-6-SEA22 18) M.Brunell pass incomplete to R.Royal. 3-6-SEA22 13) M.Brunell pass incomplete to S.Moss (M.Boulware). 4-6-SEA22 08) N.Novak 40 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-E.Albright, Holder-D.Frost. SEA 10 WAS 17, Plays: 10 Yards: 49 Possession: 4:07.

 

[mad sweeney]

Ah the old 3rd and long draw play and to someone NOT named Alexander to boot. I know the D is sticky and giving him fits, but GO FOR THE KILL AGAIN this week. Holmgren is responsible for many gray hairs.

 

[Kleck]

Just how bad is the Washington offense? Pretty bad. So far in this game I've seen Washington in 3rd and 9, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10, and 9. They've picked up all of these but one, and they have only 17 points in the game. When they face a better defense they're going to get killed.

Are you being serious?The Skins have no 3 and outs, 17 points through 3 quarters, and have DOMINATED time of possession. Thats is bad offense?

I'm not being clear. The Seattle pass rush is non-existent. When Washington faces anything close to an average defense Brunell is going to get killed.

 

[jwvdcw]

lets go....one more long drive for a score will wrap this one up!

 

[jwvdcw]

Just how bad is the Washington offense? Pretty bad. So far in this game I've seen Washington in 3rd and 9, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10, and 9. They've picked up all of these but one, and they have only 17 points in the game. When they face a better defense they're going to get killed.

Are you being serious?The Skins have no 3 and outs, 17 points through 3 quarters, and have DOMINATED time of possession. Thats is bad offense?

I'm not being clear. The Seattle pass rush is non-existent. When Washington faces anything close to an average defense Brunell is going to get killed.

and why exactly is the Seattle pash rush non-existant? Maybe because of Washington's o-line?

 

[jurb26]

Just how bad is the Washington offense? Pretty bad. So far in this game I've seen Washington in 3rd and 9, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10, and 9. They've picked up all of these but one, and they have only 17 points in the game. When they face a better defense they're going to get killed.

Are you being serious?The Skins have no 3 and outs, 17 points through 3 quarters, and have DOMINATED time of possession. Thats is bad offense?

I'm not being clear. The Seattle pass rush is non-existent. When Washington faces anything close to an average defense Brunell is going to get killed.

Yes, good Olines have a tendency to do that.

 

[Kleck]

I'm not being clear. The Seattle pass rush is non-existent. When Washington faces anything close to an average defense Brunell is going to get killed.

and why exactly is the Seattle pash rush non-existant? Maybe because of Washington's o-line?

Seriously, if you're going to count on Brunell converting 3rd and 10+ all game long every game you're in for a very long season.