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Game Thread W9 - Indianapolis V Philadelphia (1 Viewer)

Not sure what everyone is missing here... helmet to helmet hit by the last defender coming in.
I think you're misunderstanding the rule----once he is running, incidental helmet to helmet contact is not a penalty. It's not clear that the defender even initiated it, but even if one felt he did it STILL isn't a penalty in that situation.
 
He wasn't defenseless. He lowered his shoulder on the defender.
I don't give a crap if it was a bad call or not. Totally classless by the Eagles defender to be jumping around the field whinning about the call and for the fans to be booing so loudly as Collie lies on the field unresposnive.
 
As questionable of a call as it was....the Philly fans look like asses for booing while Collie looks to be unconscious on the field.
Earning their bad reputation right now. For the most part that reputation is underserved, but that is beyond classless to boo that call when a guy could be paralyzed.
 
The flag was thrown as a response to Collie's prone state in my opinion - it came a few seconds after the hit.That said, the chorus of boos round the stadium for the flag whilst a player is lying clearly unconscious, and none of us know how badly he is hurt, leaves a bad taste.
Would you expect any less from Philly? Their fans have a rep for a reason.
Echoes of Michael Irvin, if I remember rightly (though that was cheering the injury).
 
the first hit was fine - the helmet to the back of Collie's head was the one that knocked him out cold....
But there was absolutely no time for him to react to where the first hit pushed Collie, and he was not lined up to hit him helmet to helmet going in.
 
Collie knocked out but no way that's an illegal hit, even with the newer, more sensitive rules.
It was helmet to helmet. Stupid rule, because it was as much Collie's fault for ducking into it as it was the DB's fault, but that's how these work most of the time and by the rules that was clearly a flag.Classy of the Eagles fans to loudly continue boo'ing the call while Collie is unconscious on the field though...
The helmet to helmet contact was after the initial hit; completely accidental and nothing to do with the defender or his approach.
Like I said, that's how these helmet to helmet hits occur the majority of the time. The offensive player adjusts after the defensive player commits and he ends up hitting the head when he was aiming for the chest/shoulder. This was the same as all those others.I liked how the week after the fines they showed Merriweather lay someone out and talked about how he had adjusted and wasn't going for the head anymore. Only, his approach was exactly the same, the only difference was the receiver didn't duck into it the next week.That's why the rule is stupid, but that's the rule. If all those others were flags, then this one is too.
 
It was clear there was helmet contact between the two players, and just a bad situation. Probably a knee jerk reaction from the ref to throw the flag.

 
As questionable of a call as it was....the Philly fans look like asses for booing while Collie looks to be unconscious on the field.
Earning their bad reputation right now. For the most part that reputation is underserved, but that is beyond classless to boo that call when a guy could be paralyzed.
I think once everyone noticed the seriousness, it died down. Hope he is ok.
 
The flag was thrown as a response to Collie's prone state in my opinion - it came a few seconds after the hit.That said, the chorus of boos round the stadium for the flag whilst a player is lying clearly unconscious, and none of us know how badly he is hurt, leaves a bad taste.
eagles fans cuold save a sinking ship of drowning kittens and people would still look at them or find someway to say they were negative..
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When does Goodell get the red button so he can eject players in games? It's gotta be coming. :thumbdown:

 
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Simms just did a good job explaining why that wasn't a penalty and should have been called a fumble instead of an incomplete pass.

Samuel was the player jumping around in anger after they showed the replay on the jumbotron, not classy at all. I know you get amped up and caught up in the emotion of the game, but you need to show more respect to your fellow players.

 
terrible call!!!!!!
Helmet-to-helmet a terrible call now ?
that was not helmet to helmet, it was shoulder to shoulder on the back end of the play and if there was helmet contact it was on collie for lowering his head
Definitely Helmet to Helmet by Coleman. Whether it's Coleman's fault or Collie's doesn't matter now. With the climate in the NFL, it's going to be called, period.
I feel bad for Collie but learn the rules.
 
Are we sure the fans aren't booing for:1. The horrible flag2. The fact that they stopped the play when it was a clear fumble and the Eagles should have been returning it
Of course that is what they are booing. They were responding to the replay.
 
Not sure what everyone is missing here... helmet to helmet hit by the last defender coming in.
I think you're misunderstanding the rule----once he is running, incidental helmet to helmet contact is not a penalty. It's not clear that the defender even initiated it, but even if one felt he did it STILL isn't a penalty in that situation.
He was leading with his helmet and hit Collie's helmet. That's always going to get called, whether the guy is defenseless or a runner.
 
As questionable of a call as it was....the Philly fans look like asses for booing while Collie looks to be unconscious on the field.
Earning their bad reputation right now. For the most part that reputation is underserved, but that is beyond classless to boo that call when a guy could be paralyzed.
First of all we all hope he is ok.They have every right to boo a bad call. They wern't booing the player. They were booing the refs. I'm sure this will be the hot topic all week but if it happened in Cleveland or Buffalo it wouldn't even come up. Such a double standardI guess the standing ovation the fans are giving him is classless too.
 
Looked like helmet to helmet.. When are guys going to learn you can't lead with your helmet..
Not sure what everyone is missing here... helmet to helmet hit by the last defender coming in.
1. It was a shoulder2. He had posession, made two steps and HE lowered his helmet. He is a runner.Bad call.
He lowered his shoulder to absorb the hit he knew was coming. Coleman hit him almost immediately after the other hit, with a slightly lowered shoulder. If the first hit hadn't happened, then Coleman probably wouldn't have been HTH. But he did, and it was, and they are going to call it a penalty from now period.
 
The flag was thrown as a response to Collie's prone state in my opinion - it came a few seconds after the hit.That said, the chorus of boos round the stadium for the flag whilst a player is lying clearly unconscious, and none of us know how badly he is hurt, leaves a bad taste.
eagles fans cuold save a sinking ship of drowning kittens and people would still look at them or find someway to say they were negative..
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And that reputation was just thrust upon them and is not deserved in any way, right?:rollseyes:
 
Simms just did a good job explaining why that wasn't a penalty and should have been called a fumble instead of an incomplete pass.Samuel was the player jumping around in anger after they showed the replay on the jumbotron, not classy at all. I know you get amped up and caught up in the emotion of the game, but you need to show more respect to your fellow players.
Agree Samuel was not classy.
 
In the refs' defense, I think they probably heard the sound of HtH contact and threw the flag. It was the wrong call, but not horrible, not that I think about it. I hope Collie is OK.

 
Eagles fans (most, not all) obviously don't care about human decency.

They cheer for convicted dog killer Michael Vick and they loudly boo while Collie was lying unconscious on the field.

Stay classy, Philly.

 
Collie was awake when they were taking him off the field and no thumbs up or anything. His eyes looked watery. Hope he is ok.

 
Not sure what everyone is missing here... helmet to helmet hit by the last defender coming in.
I think you're misunderstanding the rule----once he is running, incidental helmet to helmet contact is not a penalty. It's not clear that the defender even initiated it, but even if one felt he did it STILL isn't a penalty in that situation.
He was leading with his helmet and hit Collie's helmet. That's always going to get called, whether the guy is defenseless or a runner.
That is not what happened on the play. I don't think people really understand what 'leading with the helmet' means in NFL parlance.Unfortunately, no clear movement from Collie on way off the field. Hope he is ok.
 
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The flag was thrown as a response to Collie's prone state in my opinion - it came a few seconds after the hit.That said, the chorus of boos round the stadium for the flag whilst a player is lying clearly unconscious, and none of us know how badly he is hurt, leaves a bad taste.
eagles fans cuold save a sinking ship of drowning kittens and people would still look at them or find someway to say they were negative..
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And that reputation was just thrust upon them and is not deserved in any way, right?:rollseyes:
Now are you going to bring up Santa Claus booing from 20 years ago, weak. Almost as weak as the refs giving away 7 that drive.
 
Are we sure the fans aren't booing for:1. The horrible flag2. The fact that they stopped the play when it was a clear fumble and the Eagles should have been returning it
Of course that is what they are booing. They were responding to the replay.
Exactly. They were more concerned with a stupid replay from a game while a man is lying motionless, unconscious, and potentially permanently harmed. The lack of perspective is alarming, and quite frankly disgusting. If you can't see that, you're right there with them in my book.
 

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