Game Thread W9 - San Diego V Houston (1 Viewer)

[2Squirrels1Nut]

Terrible grounding call. The TE was in the area, and he wasn't throwing to avoid a sack - he had a good pocket.

 

[Ignoramus]

Good lord, that's a terrible call.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

What kind of spot was that? How much is Norv paying the refs?

 

[2Squirrels1Nut]

What kind of spot was that? How much is Norv paying the refs?

More than he's paying his dermatologist?

 

[yankobb]

Schaub called for a BS intentional grounding.

That was a joke. Refs deciding this game.

 

[timschochet]

There's a certain running back who dominated the first half of the game. He did not touch the ball on that drive.

 

[thunderclap]

Agreed on the bad grounding call. Chargers catch a break there.

 

[Buckna]

Man, I hate to see a good game end this way. Totally ruined by the ref's.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

That grounding call would be fine if the refs were consistent about it. He was obviously throwing it away on purpose, and he wasn't out of the pocket.

But since they almost never call that when a receiver is anywhere near the ball, they shouldn't have called it that time either.

 

[2Squirrels1Nut]

That grounding call would be fine if the refs were consistent about it. He was obviously throwing it away on purpose, and he wasn't out of the pocket.

But since they almost never call that when a receiver is anywhere near the ball, they shouldn't have called it that time either.

His purpose doesn't matter. Rivers has at least once thrown at a nearby covered receiver's feet to evade a sack and also an interception. Here's the way the rule reads:

Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.

He had a chance of completing a pass to Dreesen; the issue is not the accuracy of the pass, it's how realistic of a chance there is at completing it.

and

He wasn't in imminent danger of a sack. He had a pocket and didn't even seem particularly hurried. He stepped and threw.

Awful call.

 

[prosopis]

Nice to see Foster get some touches here.

 

[Buckna]

There's a certain running back who dominated the first half of the game. He did not touch the ball on that drive.

See what I was talking about earlier? Don't know what Kubiak is doing sometimes. They throw it underneath to Foster now and what does he do? Only gains 33 yards!

 

[2Squirrels1Nut]

Keep throwing to Andre and Foster!

 

[FUBAR]

this should be AJ time.

 

[knickstorm]

There's a certain running back who dominated the first half of the game. He did not touch the ball on that drive.

See what I was talking about earlier? Don't know what Kubiak is doing sometimes. They throw it underneath to Foster now and what does he do? Only gains 33 yards!

too bad the only time they do it is when they're down and need to move in a hurry.

 

[FUBAR]

INT

 

[prosopis]

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[2Squirrels1Nut]

OMFG!

 

[Buckna]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Don't know why they are gonna review it, we all know all calls go to the Chargers this game.

 

[Tau837]

I don't see any basis to overturn that. That should be the game.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

That grounding call would be fine if the refs were consistent about it. He was obviously throwing it away on purpose, and he wasn't out of the pocket.

But since they almost never call that when a receiver is anywhere near the ball, they shouldn't have called it that time either.

His purpose doesn't matter. Rivers has at least once thrown at a nearby covered receiver's feet to evade a sack and also an interception. Here's the way the rule reads:

Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.

He had a chance of completing a pass to Dreesen; the issue is not the accuracy of the pass, it's how realistic of a chance there is at completing it.

and

He wasn't in imminent danger of a sack. He had a pocket and didn't even seem particularly hurried. He stepped and threw.

Awful call.

The chance of completing it was pretty near zero. The only way he would have completed that pass is if he were hit as he released it and the ball popped up in the air nowhere near its intended target (which was the bench on the sideline).I agree it was a terrible call. But it's not a terrible call based on the way the rule is written, IMO; it's a terrible call based on the way it's typically enforced.

 

[thunderclap]

Wow... Andre Johnson's knee saves the Chargers from a last second loss. Assuming the INT stands.

 

[2Squirrels1Nut]

I don't see any basis to overturn that. That should be the game.

That was an INT.

 

[Tau837]

Don't know why they are gonna review it, we all know all calls go to the Chargers this game.

Yeah, like that uncalled low hit on Rivers on his interception, right?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The Chargers' offense deserves the win, but the team as a whole should feel pretty dang lucky.

 

[Tau837]

Rivers is amazing. No Gates, no Jackson, no Floyd, no Naanee, no Davis, no Mathews... no problem.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Well this was a fraudulent win for the Chargers here. Anyone who watched the game knows that.

 

[Romofan]

What a stinker by AJ...

just take a few weeks off and rest the freaking ankle already....jeesh......

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I don't know whom to root for in the KC-OAK game.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Well this was a fraudulent win for the Chargers here. Anyone who watched the game knows that.

 

[craxie]

Well this was a fraudulent win for the Chargers here. Anyone who watched the game knows that.

We've had enough fraudulent losses, I don't care

 

[Buckna]

Congrats San Diego, I knew those field goals would come back to haunt us.

Hou on pace for another 8-8 mediocre year. yay...

 

[tommyGunZ]

It's November. No surprise that the Chargers are heating up. They simply don't lose in Nov and December, even on the road with guys off the street starting at WR and their #1 offensive threat missing the first game of his career.

Can't say enough about AJ Smith for putting together such a deep roster, or Norv Turner for a brilliant gameplan today.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I don't know whom to root for in the KC-OAK game.

Thought about that this morning as well. Think we have to pull for the Silver and Black.

 

[RushHour]

Perfect example of why you should always take the FG when there is plenty of time left in a game, especially if you're ahead. I just don't understand going for it there. If they had another 3 on the board, you don't have to go for the TD on that last drive,

 

[tommyGunZ]

Wow... Andre Johnson's knee saves the Chargers from a last second loss. Assuming the INT stands.

You're conceding a TD there?Again, please remove that Lightning Bolt from your profile. You're obviously not a Charger fan.

 

[Ignoramus]

That grounding call would be fine if the refs were consistent about it. He was obviously throwing it away on purpose, and he wasn't out of the pocket.

But since they almost never call that when a receiver is anywhere near the ball, they shouldn't have called it that time either.

His purpose doesn't matter. Rivers has at least once thrown at a nearby covered receiver's feet to evade a sack and also an interception. Here's the way the rule reads:

Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.

He had a chance of completing a pass to Dreesen; the issue is not the accuracy of the pass, it's how realistic of a chance there is at completing it.

and



He wasn't in imminent danger of a sack. He had a pocket and didn't even seem particularly hurried. He stepped and threw.

Awful call.

The chance of completing it was pretty near zero. The only way he would have completed that pass is if he were hit as he released it and the ball popped up in the air nowhere near its intended target (which was the bench on the sideline).I agree it was a terrible call. But it's not a terrible call based on the way the rule is written, IMO; it's a terrible call based on the way it's typically enforced.

Yes, it was a terrible call based on the way the rule is written. The nearest defender was three yards away.

 

[JbizzleMan]

MVP for Rivers? 4 TD's throwing to a geriatric TE and a rookie un-drafted FA?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Yes, it was a terrible call based on the way the rule is written. The nearest defender was three yards away.

He didn't throw it away to stop the clock. He thew it away because he had nobody open. That's not a reason that saves him from a grounding call. (Pretend, for example, that instead of throwing it way out of bounds, he threw it into the ground a few feet in front of him with no eligible receivers anywhere near the area. Would anyone doubt that that was grounding?)

 

[Ignoramus]

Yes, it was a terrible call based on the way the rule is written. The nearest defender was three yards away.

He didn't throw it away to stop the clock. He thew it away because he had nobody open. That's not a reason that saves him from a grounding call. (Pretend, for example, that instead of throwing it way out of bounds, he threw it into the ground a few feet in front of him with no eligible receivers anywhere near the area. Would anyone doubt that that was grounding?)

Pretend, for example, he throws it fifteen feet out of the end zone when his receivers are covered but no defender is around him.The rule, as stated, cites imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense as one of the elements of the penalty.