Garrard and the O-Line (1 Viewer)

[LeadoffMan]

With his decimated O-line what is his value going forward? Do you bail now to pick up other prospects (assuming you've got coverage at QB) like Patten, Meachem, Henderson, A Hall, etc?

 

[Judge Smails]

I still think he'll be a very serviceable QB2. He won't be as efficient with turnovers, etc and won't be able to have the luxury of D's biting on play action so much. He has his work cut out for him for sure. But he's still smart, mobile and will get points. I wouldn't dump him for a run of the mill waiver wire WR of the week.

 

[PahtyTom]

I just traded Tashard Choice to the MBIII owner for him straight up in a redraft league so his value is pretty low right now.

 

[jbz]

that's ridiculously low. lol, Tashard Choice! maybe i'll try to get him for Rock Cartwright tonight.

seriously, though, his value is pretty low right now. I'd say he's mobile enough that he can still be fantasy useful.

 

[LeadoffMan]

Would you dump him for Cassel?

 

[jbz]

I probably would.

 

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Jesus. What is this the 4th thread exactly like this today? Is the search function broken or is it just amateur hour up in here.

 

[LeadoffMan]

Jesus. What is this the 4th thread exactly like this today? Is the search function broken or is it just amateur hour up in here.

Gee, I don't know...why don't you type in Garrard to the search function and see what you get. I got nothing when I tried. What do you care whether its the 1st post or the 50th post...no one made you come here and write a response. It must be nice to have the kind of time to be on here so much that you not only know how many posts have been made on a topic, but also to reply to them.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I wanted to start a thread like this yesterday and just have been busy busy busy.

MOP It has always been the belief of myself and FBG staff like Wannabee that when a team sustains a hit along the OL you chart the following. Anything in the interior like the LG, RG, and C will have a very strong impact on the running game as most runs these days are not OT, but more in the A gaps between the RG-C and LG-C.

If a team loses a LT or RT, usually has a much stronger impact on the passing game as those guys keep those speedy DEs from getting to the QB.

Does this make sense to everyone?

So in answer to the OP, I do believe that once the WR get a little healthier that Garrard is the guy to own and might end up surprising people due simply to the fact the Jags will not be able to move the ball on the ground.

 

[Rockchild]

I'm not sure I'd bail on him as Tennessee is a very very good defense. I think he's a good buy low. There are some concerns about the O-line but I think he's going to be a good QB2 and, if the O-line can overcome their losses, a decent QB1.

 

[Largent]

I wanted to start a thread like this yesterday and just have been busy busy busy.MOP It has always been the belief of myself and FBG staff like Wannabee that when a team sustains a hit along the OL you chart the following. Anything in the interior like the LG, RG, and C will have a very strong impact on the running game as most runs these days are not OT, but more in the A gaps between the RG-C and LG-C. If a team loses a LT or RT, usually has a much stronger impact on the passing game as those guys keep those speedy DEs from getting to the QB. Does this make sense to everyone?So in answer to the OP, I do believe that once the WR get a little healthier that Garrard is the guy to own and might end up surprising people due simply to the fact the Jags will not be able to move the ball on the ground.

like your logic....and I agree. They will need to rely on the passing game more now than before week one. That should leave MJD's value steady and drop Fred a bit.

 

[packersfan]

I find it interesting that FBG has bailed on Garrard. They were pumping him hard as a Top 10 QB and just one week into the season they've reduced him to an OK QB2. The line issues are obviously a concern but despite them last week he did throw for over 200 yards and a TD. That's not great but that's pretty much who he is so if he can maintain his typical fantasy production with those issues against a very good defense like Tennessee's I'm not sure why you'd lose so much faith in him going forward. I'm not trying to rip on FBG but I think if you're going to push a guy that hard as a Top 10 player I'm curious as to why you'd be dropping him by nearly 100% in the rankings after one week. And that's not taking into account that he is getting his most talented WR (Porter) back this week. Not that Jerry Porter is anything special, but I think he's a better WR than anyone Garrard had last week.

 

[Kuz]

I find it interesting that FBG has bailed on Garrard. They were pumping him hard as a Top 10 QB and just one week into the season they've reduced him to an OK QB2. The line issues are obviously a concern but despite them last week he did throw for over 200 yards and a TD. That's not great but that's pretty much who he is so if he can maintain his typical fantasy production with those issues against a very good defense like Tennessee's I'm not sure why you'd lose so much faith in him going forward. I'm not trying to rip on FBG but I think if you're going to push a guy that hard as a Top 10 player I'm curious as to why you'd be dropping him by nearly 100% in the rankings after one week. And that's not taking into account that he is getting his most talented WR (Porter) back this week. Not that Jerry Porter is anything special, but I think he's a better WR than anyone Garrard had last week.

It's hard not to have a huge drop off or be down on Jags offensive players after both starting guards are out for the year. I'm fairly certain when Dodds was pimping Garrard he wasn't planning on going with 2 new starters on the offensive line by week 2.. I'm sorta thinking Garrard may be okay though as Ministry pointed out earlier. I think losing the starting guards got to really hurt Jones-Drew & Taylor though..

 

[packersfan]

I find it interesting that FBG has bailed on Garrard. They were pumping him hard as a Top 10 QB and just one week into the season they've reduced him to an OK QB2. The line issues are obviously a concern but despite them last week he did throw for over 200 yards and a TD. That's not great but that's pretty much who he is so if he can maintain his typical fantasy production with those issues against a very good defense like Tennessee's I'm not sure why you'd lose so much faith in him going forward. I'm not trying to rip on FBG but I think if you're going to push a guy that hard as a Top 10 player I'm curious as to why you'd be dropping him by nearly 100% in the rankings after one week. And that's not taking into account that he is getting his most talented WR (Porter) back this week. Not that Jerry Porter is anything special, but I think he's a better WR than anyone Garrard had last week.

It's hard not to have a huge drop off or be down on Jags offensive players after both starting guards are out for the year. I'm fairly certain when Dodds was pimping Garrard he wasn't planning on going with 2 new starters on the offensive line by week 2.

I agree. However, the injuries occurred in Week 1 and against one of the toughest defenses Garrard will face all season and and without his best WR and he still put up his usual type of game (200+ yards/1 TD). That's what I'm saying. If he can put up his usual kind of game despite all of that, should he be lowered by nearly 100% on the rankings going forward? I understand why he's being lowered on the rankings. I'm simply wondering why he's being lowered so significantly if he was able to overcome all of those issues in Week 1 and put up his usual kind of game.Unless you thought Garrard was going to be a guy dropping 230 yards and 2 TDs a game. But if that was the case, I think he was being overrated and perhaps significantly so.

 

[Kuz]

I find it interesting that FBG has bailed on Garrard. They were pumping him hard as a Top 10 QB and just one week into the season they've reduced him to an OK QB2. The line issues are obviously a concern but despite them last week he did throw for over 200 yards and a TD. That's not great but that's pretty much who he is so if he can maintain his typical fantasy production with those issues against a very good defense like Tennessee's I'm not sure why you'd lose so much faith in him going forward. I'm not trying to rip on FBG but I think if you're going to push a guy that hard as a Top 10 player I'm curious as to why you'd be dropping him by nearly 100% in the rankings after one week. And that's not taking into account that he is getting his most talented WR (Porter) back this week. Not that Jerry Porter is anything special, but I think he's a better WR than anyone Garrard had last week.

It's hard not to have a huge drop off or be down on Jags offensive players after both starting guards are out for the year. I'm fairly certain when Dodds was pimping Garrard he wasn't planning on going with 2 new starters on the offensive line by week 2.

I agree. However, the injuries occurred in Week 1 and against one of the toughest defenses Garrard will face all season and and without his best WR and he still put up his usual type of game (200+ yards/1 TD). That's what I'm saying. If he can put up his usual kind of game despite all of that, should he be lowered by nearly 100% on the rankings going forward? I understand why he's being lowered on the rankings. I'm simply wondering why he's being lowered so significantly if he was able to overcome all of those issues in Week 1 and put up his usual kind of game.Unless you thought Garrard was going to be a guy dropping 230 yards and 2 TDs a game. But if that was the case, I think he was being overrated and perhaps significantly so.

good points.. When exactly did both guards get hurt in the game last week?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I find it interesting that FBG has bailed on Garrard. They were pumping him hard as a Top 10 QB and just one week into the season they've reduced him to an OK QB2. The line issues are obviously a concern but despite them last week he did throw for over 200 yards and a TD. That's not great but that's pretty much who he is so if he can maintain his typical fantasy production with those issues against a very good defense like Tennessee's I'm not sure why you'd lose so much faith in him going forward. I'm not trying to rip on FBG but I think if you're going to push a guy that hard as a Top 10 player I'm curious as to why you'd be dropping him by nearly 100% in the rankings after one week. And that's not taking into account that he is getting his most talented WR (Porter) back this week. Not that Jerry Porter is anything special, but I think he's a better WR than anyone Garrard had last week.

It's hard not to have a huge drop off or be down on Jags offensive players after both starting guards are out for the year. I'm fairly certain when Dodds was pimping Garrard he wasn't planning on going with 2 new starters on the offensive line by week 2.

I agree. However, the injuries occurred in Week 1 and against one of the toughest defenses Garrard will face all season and and without his best WR and he still put up his usual type of game (200+ yards/1 TD). That's what I'm saying. If he can put up his usual kind of game despite all of that, should he be lowered by nearly 100% on the rankings going forward? I understand why he's being lowered on the rankings. I'm simply wondering why he's being lowered so significantly if he was able to overcome all of those issues in Week 1 and put up his usual kind of game.Unless you thought Garrard was going to be a guy dropping 230 yards and 2 TDs a game. But if that was the case, I think he was being overrated and perhaps significantly so.

good points.. When exactly did both guards get hurt in the game last week?

Mo Williams was injured in warm-ups and attempted to play.Vince Manuwai was injured late in the game.