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[Beggin4Par]

Disclaimers:

I am addicted to FFL.

FFL is like farts: My team smells great, other teams stink.

Championships are won by the luckiest teams, and THAT's OK!

Week 16.

1. The Brady owners and ADP owners were eliminated last week.

2. Our solid, but unspectacular teams made the championship.

3a. Our solid but unspectacular team won or lost our championship, unfairly.

OK, here's the deal. The Brady owner got eliminated last week. The ADP owner got eliminated last week. The Randy Moss owner got eliminated 2 weeks ago.

That leaves teams like mine in the championship...

Kitna/ Derek Anderson (It didn't matter who I started)

E Earnest Graham

Willie Parker (gone after 1 play)

T. O. (gone before 1/2 time)

Lee Evans (like I got the TD)

Calvin Johnson (underperformed, '08 sleeper)

Antonio Gates (4th round stud doesn't matter anymore)

Kicker O' the week... (typical)

DTBC... (FBG strategy)

Bottom line is I admit admitted it years ago... Great GM's make the playoffs EVERY year (9 years and counting)....

Lucky teams win the NEARLY championship EVERY year!

Kurt Warner (wouldn't be a starter if not for leinart)

Fred Taylor (got hot at the right time)

Steven Jackson (where was he MID-Season?)

Derrick Mason (catches & yards, but no TD's till this week?)

Santana Moss (BUST until now)

Greg Jennings (solid FLEX player all year, underperformed this week)

Chris Cooley (been waiting for this)

Mason Crosby (STUD for 15 weeks)

If you drafted these guys you beat me for the championship this week.

ALL I WANT TO SAY IS, THIS IS TYPICAL. BETTER TEAM (on paper), LOSES TO MARGINAL TEAM (on paper).

NO ILL WILL TO THE LEAGUE CHAMP. THIS IS for those who think they were entitled to the championship based on total points.

FYI- Total points means even LESS than head to head. HTH requires you remain involved all year.

My league winner made almost no transactions this year. Drafted his team. Won early. Won late. Made playoffs based on 1 in season tie. Has over 100 pts. 2 consecutive weeks.... GAME OVER... Willie Parker DONE, T.O. 1 and DONE, E Graham... 2nd half stud.... week 16 dud!

The HTH Playoffs are ALL LUCK!....

And I for one am OK with that.

The real skills is making the playoffs every year.... 10 years and counting....

THANKS FBG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bears_Man2]

Do H2H 17 weeks. Reward for weekly high totals. Keeps everyone competing every week and doesn't make winning your championship based on one week.

You're not going to get screwed after 17 full weeks. You'll win money one way or the other (weekly high scores or overall best team after 17 weeks).

 

[thayman]

That's the nature of the beast. In almost every head to head league you will find a team that is has the highest points per game, but their record doesn't reflect that. Personally I like a Head to Head league that gives out a bonus to the team that has the most points at the end of the year, best of both worlds.

 

[BoltBacker]

How do you combat the luck element in a FF superbowl game though?

I've toyed with the idea of starting an IDP league where you had 52-player teams and used all their stats(essentially that would be your team - they ALL start). I think that would be the best way to minimize luck in the one most important game of the season. I think more starters is the only way to take some of the luck out of it without having an anti-climactic rotisserie scoring league where only a couple of teams pay any attention to in the entire month of DEC.

 

[Aussie Cowboy]

If you drafted these guys you beat me for the championship this week.ALL I WANT TO SAY IS, THIS IS TYPICAL. BETTER TEAM (on paper), LOSES TO MARGINAL TEAM (on paper).NO ILL WILL TO THE LEAGUE CHAMP. THIS IS for those who think they were entitled to the championship based on total points.FYI- Total points means even LESS than head to head. HTH requires you remain involved all year.My league winner made almost no transactions this year. Drafted his team. Won early. Won late. Made playoffs based on 1 in season tie. Has over 100 pts. 2 consecutive weeks.... GAME OVER... Willie Parker DONE, T.O. 1 and DONE, E Graham... 2nd half stud.... week 16 dud!The HTH Playoffs are ALL LUCK!....

 

[BoltBacker]

Do H2H 17 weeks. Reward for weekly high totals. Keeps everyone competing every week and doesn't make winning your championship based on one week.You're not going to get screwed after 17 full weeks. You'll win money one way or the other (weekly high scores or overall best team after 17 weeks).

I can just hear all the Manning/Romo/Addai/Barber/Clark/Witten owners screaming now as IND/PIT rest almost everyone next week even if they do officially "start" the game.

 

[thayman]

Do H2H 17 weeks. Reward for weekly high totals. Keeps everyone competing every week and doesn't make winning your championship based on one week.You're not going to get screwed after 17 full weeks. You'll win money one way or the other (weekly high scores or overall best team after 17 weeks).

I can just hear all the Manning/Romo/Addai/Barber/Clark/Witten owners screaming now as IND/PIT rest almost everyone next week even if they do officially "start" the game.

That's why having a good back up system in place is awesome. Put a rule into effect, if a QB doesn't attempt 12 passes and/or rushes it goes to your "backup" QB.It's a bit goofy, but in one league I'm in it's a lot of fun. It really makes you use the WW to make sure you have a viable option if you think a starter may sit.

 

[Beggin4Par]

Do H2H 17 weeks. Reward for weekly high totals. Keeps everyone competing every week and doesn't make winning your championship based on one week.You're not going to get screwed after 17 full weeks. You'll win money one way or the other (weekly high scores or overall best team after 17 weeks).

Try winning a league 6 years out of 10. Those are the only odds that would make YOU happy.And those odds would have other GMs running for the hills. You'd have a challenge EVERY year just trying to fill a 12 man league.If you don't want to recuit new owners EVERY year, then you can't really win more than 1 out of every 3 or 4 championships.Bottom line is. THERE IS NO WAY to eliminate the LUCK FACTOR without trying to find new owners every eyar.Even in an IDP, Dynasty league... if you win too often, you'll be looking for new owners, EVERY year.I THINK I SHOULD WIN EVERY YEAR... But the real challenge, is JUST making the playoffs,EVERY year, with almost the same 12 GM's every year, and without causing such DISHARMONY, that you don't need to fund new owners every year.Just like a poker game, you need the fishes to show up, then you make the playoffs, and take your 1 out of 4 shot at WINNING the whole thing.If you think there's anything MORE to it, then it's time for you to get over youtself.In my H2H league, the TOTAL POINTS winning GM's sent the two Superbowl teams a TEXT message today.He basically said we are lucky we're not playing him today.I think he should GET OVER HIMSELF. The playoffs are all LUCK, and they always will be!I think this is the BEST WAY to play FFL.Any thoughts?

 

[Pictus Cat]

Most of these players could have been drafted at a discount in addition to your 'better team on paper.' Then you can for them on your bench.

Week 17 playoffs have some predictable consequences. Draft and roster accordingly. Sometimes a Week 17 all play contest is fun to have after your Week 16 playoffs

- Double Champion ADP owner/starter (though he nearly killed me!!)

 

[Bears_Man2]

Are you (Beggin4Par) responding to me above or just happened to reply to my quote? If so, you just totally confused me as to what my post has to do with recruiting new owners each year.....(which from a personal standpoint, we've had the same 12 owners for 5 years running in a Keep 1 league).

I think you were responding with a Dynasty thinking (while I'm speaking from a redraft/very limited keeper (keep 1) league. The hassle of finding new owners every year is the reason I do not commissioner or even play in dynasty leagues.

As long as everyone has something to play for every single week (and rewarding for weekly high score does such), they'll be happy.

 

[Fuzzy McGillicuddy]

Just like a poker game, you need the fishes to show up, then you make the playoffs, and take your 1 out of 4 shot at WINNING the whole thing.If you think there's anything MORE to it, then it's time for you to get over youtself.

Sure, there is a lot of luck involved. But you can't totally discount good drafting, forecasting favorable matchups, playing the waiver wire and making key trades at the right time. The guy I beat in the semi-final had LT2, TO, and R.Moss. He sold the farm to get that lineup. On paper, he probably should have won but he'll be lucky to finish third. I've gotten screwed in the playoffs before. Finally this year the planets lined up for me. Was it luck? Sure. Was it all luck? No, I made some of the right moves along the way. I'll take credit for the moves that worked, and probably forget the ones that didn't. Cheers.

 

[Bri]

 

[KellysHeroes]

The HTH Playoffs are ALL LUCK!....And I for one am OK with that.The real skills is making the playoffs every year.... 10 years and counting.... THANKS FBG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow.. tell us something we didn't knowhas someone not won their league in the past 10 yrs... uh; is it time for bottle and then sleepys.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I hate posts like these... I actually do. You are correct; good managers make the playoffs... but great managers prepare for the playoffs prior.

Great Managers make Trades for guys with good match ups. Great managers make ww moves for guys w/ that key week 16 match up a month ahead of time (IE a good KR) & making good line up decisions. To say thats its all luck is cry babish... more of 40% management & 60% luck.

 

[Routilla]

:IBTL:

:IBTL:

I could not have said it better myself.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Any thoughts?

GET OVeR youRself

 

[ddog9876]

I won my league.

I'm great at FF - really I am.

Thank you.

 

[The Duff Man]

12-1

First Round Bye

Crap the Bed Last Week get knocked out

Outscored the entire league again this week

It happens....

 

[The Duff Man]

I hate posts like these... I actually do. You are correct; good managers make the playoffs... but great managers prepare for the playoffs prior. Great Managers make Trades for guys with good match ups. Great managers make ww moves for guys w/ that key week 16 match up a month ahead of time (IE a good KR) & making good line up decisions. To say thats its all luck is cry babish... more of 40% management & 60% luck.

Let me know how you planned for last minute and in game injuries.Thanks.

 

[nerangers]

There is always luck involved:

My Opponent played Kenny Watson - never scored more than 11 pts since week 8...scores 23 yesterday

He played Derrick Mason - never scored more than 13 pts all season, but scored 21 pts yesterday (we have a really bad bonus (6 pts) for TDs over 50 yds)

Some players always seem to step up during your week 16 championship run.

Others choose not to show up: Driver, Branch, Graham, Witten (we are a non PPR league)

 

[southeastjerome]

Try out a total points league with head to head. One of my leagues crowns its "champion" based on the overall points winner for the entire season. We still do a weekly H2H with playoffs/championship game, but the winner of that gets 25% of winnings and not the championship trophy. This way, if you really do have the best team, you don't get screwed out of the title.

 

[bcr8f]

More than 20%. I lost 2 rb's in the game today.

 

[JaxBill]

This is why we wrap up by Week 15.

11 weeks H2H, once against each team.

Top 4 regular season winners rewarded.

4 week long tournament (Top 4 byes everybody makes tourney) where every game counts for at least a small percentage.

 

[snogger]

That's the nature of the beast. In almost every head to head league you will find a team that is has the highest points per game, but their record doesn't reflect that. Personally I like a Head to Head league that gives out a bonus to the team that has the most points at the end of the year, best of both worlds.

Thats how we do it. to winner, 2nd place & the Total points Champ. Also, the #1 pick next year goes to whoever scores the most points in the Consolation bracket during playoffs. So if your team didn't make the Final Four you have every reason to play right to the end to get that #1 pick next year.Oh and BTW.. This is the 4th year of this league and our 4th different Champ!

 

[FUBAR]

I hate posts like these... I actually do. You are correct; good managers make the playoffs... but great managers prepare for the playoffs prior.

Great Managers make Trades for guys with good match ups. Great managers make ww moves for guys w/ that key week 16 match up a month ahead of time (IE a good KR) & making good line up decisions. To say thats its all luck is cry babish... more of 40% management & 60% luck.

Let me know how you planned for last minute and in game injuries.Thanks.

it would appear that is included in the 60% luckI had ADP, Plaxico, Parker, and Tom Brady facing a team that was stretched thin at WR to the point where he started Randle El and Matt Jones of all people.

 

[Da Guru]

I agree with that.

This is the 15th year for my 14 team league. I would say the best team has won 5 times out of 15.

I have been knocked out twice with teams that were 12-2 on the year and the highest scoring..and I won the SuperBowl three years ago with the crappiest team in the playoffs. Every week I played a team that had their worst week of the season.

 

[walkwithme]

Fantasy football has a luck factor but it is not all luck. H2H or total points leagues there will be a luck factor. I compare H2H in the playoffs to almost like the NCAA tournament during March Madness. The best teams on paper don't always beat the "cinderella" teams.

 

[thehornet]

of course there is a ton of luck invovled, but that doenst explain the managers who win consistently.

im not saying im a great gm but in my two leagues:

work league:

2006

finished 3rd regular season

won championship

2007

finished 3rd regular season

won championship

keeper league

2006

took over a crap keeper team and finished 2-12, missed playoffs.

2007

kept the keepers i wanted and drafted my own team

finsihed 2nd regular season

And i am in the championship game next week, week 17

it aint all luck, joe.

edit to add:

I do not have randy moss, brady, to...etc. just solid kick-as* teams.

 

[az_prof]

Obviously there is skill and knowledge involved, but if all the owners in your league are good, then luck is the default difference. When I played free leagues and casual leagues I almost always won but since playing competitive money leagues where all the players are good it is much, much more erratic. Luck, ironically, is even more of a factor because EVERYONE in my league drafts well;everyone in my leagues plays the waiver wire well, and almost everyone trades actively. I had Ryan Grant early in the year and then when Wynn was doing so well and was declared the starter and Grant fell to fourth in the depth chart I dropped him. Someone else picked him up later after his first big game (I didn't have priority) and was he "better" than me? I actually had seen him in preseason and knew he was good but didn't see how he could get a chance as fourth guy--who would have known all those other guys would get hurt? How many people who picked up Earnest Graham knew what they were getting? Bottom line is that there is a lot of luck. How much? I don't know.

of course there is a ton of luck invovled, but that doenst explain the managers who win consistently.im not saying im a great gm but in my two leagues:work league:2006finished 3rd regular seasonwon championship2007finished 3rd regular seasonwon championshipkeeper league2006took over a crap keeper team and finished 2-12, missed playoffs.2007kept the keepers i wanted and drafted my own teamfinsihed 2nd regular seasonAnd i am in the championship game next week, week 17it aint all luck, joe.edit to add:I do not have randy moss, brady, to...etc. just solid kick-as* teams.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

For $$$ leagues, alot of the recommendations above are all valid ways to make it work out.

2 other options:

1) Simple one....give 1st round bye weeks to reg. season points leaders and not the win/loss record leaders. That rewards the skill (points over reg. season) over the luck (head to head matchups).

Another slighly more complicated option (for freebie, dynasty, contract leagues etc). Is to play total season points during reg. season and then play head to head during the playoffs. Caviat is to provide "point spread/home field" bonus points for the team with the better season points. Here is an example as to how it can work:

For example simplicity...assume 8 team league, top 4 teams make playoffs.

Record and reg season points (assume 14 reg. season weeks):

Team 1 625 total season pts = avg. of 44.64 pts per game

Team 2 600 total season pts = avg. of 42.86 pts per game

Team 3 500 total season pts = avg of 35.71 pts per game

Team 4 480 total season pts = avg of 34.29 pts per game

First round of playoffs:

Team 3 plays team 2 in the 1st round of playoffs in head-to-head format. Team 2 starts off with 7 pts (reg. season point differential...call it bonus points, homefield whatever) already before any starting lineup players score for each team. Bonus points for reg. season. dominance.

Team 4 plays team 1 in the 1st round of playoffs. Team 1 starts off with 10 point bonus.

Sort of like NASCAR's "the chase" as reg. season points determine who makes playoffs (and gives bonuses to those that were more successful)...but its all reset for playoffs with head to head format.

Just some ideas.

 

[crnerblitz]

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[Rovers]

Sure, there is a lot of luck invilved... but there is some skill too.

Bad luck: Lost Marvin, Hackett and M Peterson for nearly the whole year. Lost D Ryans at the end. That's our 2 of top 3 WR's, and hte 2 top LB's!

Some good moves: Getting R White early before he broke out, off the WW. getting Leigh Boden off the WW and putting him in the line up in what was a wild CLE-CIN game. Not playing Maroney at all, until these last two weeks. Knowing DiGiorgio would have a big week against the Giants in bad weather..... sticking with faltering studs, like A Schobel, who finally had a big FF game.

If it were ALL luck, why did this roster go up against the same guy that beat me last year in the final? Why did these two rosters score more than all the others during the regular season? Neither team has Brady, Manning, Moss or TO. I won while Hasselback had two lousy weeks in a row. It's about having a balanced roster.

IDP's also increase the skill factor. Just like in the NFL, a great IDP team can win for you with a great defense!

The guy who started this thread lost FWP.... well, I started Norwood out of necessity, but still won despite his 4 point day. If you want to cut down on the luck factor... play in IDP leagues.

 

[Tiger Fan]

 

[Captain Spaulding]

Sure, there is a lot of luck invilved... but there is some skill too. Bad luck: Lost Marvin, Hackett and M Peterson for nearly the whole year. Lost D Ryans at the end. That's our 2 of top 3 WR's, and hte 2 top LB's! Some good moves: Getting R White early before he broke out, off the WW. getting Leigh Boden off the WW and putting him in the line up in what was a wild CLE-CIN game. Not playing Maroney at all, until these last two weeks. Knowing DiGiorgio would have a big week against the Giants in bad weather..... sticking with faltering studs, like A Schobel, who finally had a big FF game. If it were ALL luck, why did this roster go up against the same guy that beat me last year in the final? Why did these two rosters score more than all the others during the regular season? Neither team has Brady, Manning, Moss or TO. I won while Hasselback had two lousy weeks in a row. It's about having a balanced roster. IDP's also increase the skill factor. Just like in the NFL, a great IDP team can win for you with a great defense! The guy who started this thread lost FWP.... well, I started Norwood out of necessity, but still won despite his 4 point day. If you want to cut down on the luck factor... play in IDP leagues.

I wish my IDP dynasty league had a better scoring system. I think my league adds more luck with IDP. Here's the scoring system for defense:2 pts for 8+ tackles2 pts per sack2 pts per INT6 pts for TD's scored I've got AJ Hawk who gets 5-7 tackles ever game...like 1 sack and maybe 1 INT if I recall. He think has less than 10 total season pts. (ranked outside of the top 30 LB's) yet he's a very solid defensive player.Then you got Antrele Rolle who scored 16 pts in 1 game..2 TDs from INTs (sent him into the top 5 DB ranking instantly) and hasn't scored any points in any other game this year.Our IDP scoring adds luck factor, I despise it.

 

[Homer]

qb favre

rb adp

rb fwp

wr holt

wr plaxico

k crosby

d green bay

Depending on your league's scoring format, you may have not broken into DOUBLE FIGURES in scoring with that team, a top 3-10 player at every position.

But, of course, you should have known they would all suck/get hurt when all the chips were on the table...

IT IS INDEED 100% LUCK in any given week.

 

[KellysHeroes]

qb favre

rb adp

rb fwp

wr holt

wr plaxico

k crosby

d green bay

Depending on your league's scoring format, you may have not broken into DOUBLE FIGURES in scoring with that team, a top 3-10 player at every position.

But, of course, you should have known they would all suck/get hurt when all the chips were on the table...

IT IS INDEED 100% LUCK in any given week.

Besides FWP and maybe GBs D... you should of known all those would of been ???Farve & Crosby had terrible weather

ADP was in a tough match up.. you got lucky that he scored 2 late TDs in week 15; that should of been a sign

Holt had a tough match up.. its tough to take when Bulger tosses 3 Tds and Holt did nothing.

Plax had done nothing in a month

 

[Homer]

qb favre

rb adp

rb fwp

wr holt

wr plaxico

k crosby

d green bay

Depending on your league's scoring format, you may have not broken into DOUBLE FIGURES in scoring with that team, a top 3-10 player at every position.

But, of course, you should have known they would all suck/get hurt when all the chips were on the table...

IT IS INDEED 100% LUCK in any given week.

Besides FWP and maybe GBs D... you should of known all those would of been ???Farve & Crosby had terrible weather

ADP was in a tough match up.. you got lucky that he scored 2 late TDs in week 15; that should of been a sign

Holt had a tough match up.. its tough to take when Bulger tosses 3 Tds and Holt did nothing.

Plax had done nothing in a month

You're right. I should have moved my trade deadline back a month so I could have traded ADP for Laurence Maroney the week before the champtionship games. Why didn't I THINK of that?

 

[Rovers]

Sure, there is a lot of luck invilved... but there is some skill too. Bad luck: Lost Marvin, Hackett and M Peterson for nearly the whole year. Lost D Ryans at the end. That's our 2 of top 3 WR's, and hte 2 top LB's! Some good moves: Getting R White early before he broke out, off the WW. getting Leigh Boden off the WW and putting him in the line up in what was a wild CLE-CIN game. Not playing Maroney at all, until these last two weeks. Knowing DiGiorgio would have a big week against the Giants in bad weather..... sticking with faltering studs, like A Schobel, who finally had a big FF game. If it were ALL luck, why did this roster go up against the same guy that beat me last year in the final? Why did these two rosters score more than all the others during the regular season? Neither team has Brady, Manning, Moss or TO. I won while Hasselback had two lousy weeks in a row. It's about having a balanced roster. IDP's also increase the skill factor. Just like in the NFL, a great IDP team can win for you with a great defense! The guy who started this thread lost FWP.... well, I started Norwood out of necessity, but still won despite his 4 point day. If you want to cut down on the luck factor... play in IDP leagues.

I wish my IDP dynasty league had a better scoring system. I think my league adds more luck with IDP. Here's the scoring system for defense:2 pts for 8+ tackles2 pts per sack2 pts per INT6 pts for TD's scored I've got AJ Hawk who gets 5-7 tackles ever game...like 1 sack and maybe 1 INT if I recall. He think has less than 10 total season pts. (ranked outside of the top 30 LB's) yet he's a very solid defensive player.Then you got Antrele Rolle who scored 16 pts in 1 game..2 TDs from INTs (sent him into the top 5 DB ranking instantly) and hasn't scored any points in any other game this year.Our IDP scoring adds luck factor, I despise it.

That's an awful scoring system. 2 points for 8+ tackles? Afwful.

 

[timoleander]

In the 5 years our league has existed, I've managed to win 75% of my regular season games and make the playoffs in all but one year (7-6 and shutout while a 5-8 team won a division for the automatic bid). I've played in 2 of the 5 championship games, but lost both of them (in 2004 LJ Smith failed to even record one catch in Week 16, and I lost by one). So, I'm the only one of the three most dominant teams to not have championship win.

The guy that knocked me out in the first round of the playoffs this year backed into the playoffs at 6-7, managed only 60 pts. in his final regular season game (a loss), BUT somehow was able to trump my 110 with a (probably season-high) 122. He flamed out in the next round with 67 pts.

I think I'm retiring from the league after this year.

 

[Righetti]

Disclaimers:

I am addicted to FFL.

FFL is like farts: My team smells great, other teams stink.

Championships are won by the luckiest teams, and THAT's OK!

Week 16.

1. The Brady owners and ADP owners were eliminated last week.

2. Our solid, but unspectacular teams made the championship.

3a. Our solid but unspectacular team won or lost our championship, unfairly.

OK, here's the deal. The Brady owner got eliminated last week. The ADP owner got eliminated last week. The Randy Moss owner got eliminated 2 weeks ago.

That leaves teams like mine in the championship...

Kitna/ Derek Anderson (It didn't matter who I started)

E Earnest Graham

Willie Parker (gone after 1 play)

T. O. (gone before 1/2 time)

Lee Evans (like I got the TD)

Calvin Johnson (underperformed, '08 sleeper)

Antonio Gates (4th round stud doesn't matter anymore)

Kicker O' the week... (typical)

DTBC... (FBG strategy)

Bottom line is I admit admitted it years ago... Great GM's make the playoffs EVERY year (9 years and counting)....

Lucky teams win the NEARLY championship EVERY year!

Kurt Warner (wouldn't be a starter if not for leinart)

Fred Taylor (got hot at the right time)

Steven Jackson (where was he MID-Season?)

Derrick Mason (catches & yards, but no TD's till this week?)

Santana Moss (BUST until now)

Greg Jennings (solid FLEX player all year, underperformed this week)

Chris Cooley (been waiting for this)

Mason Crosby (STUD for 15 weeks)

If you drafted these guys you beat me for the championship this week.

ALL I WANT TO SAY IS, THIS IS TYPICAL. BETTER TEAM (on paper), LOSES TO MARGINAL TEAM (on paper).

NO ILL WILL TO THE LEAGUE CHAMP. THIS IS for those who think they were entitled to the championship based on total points.

FYI- Total points means even LESS than head to head. HTH requires you remain involved all year.

My league winner made almost no transactions this year. Drafted his team. Won early. Won late. Made playoffs based on 1 in season tie. Has over 100 pts. 2 consecutive weeks.... GAME OVER... Willie Parker DONE, T.O. 1 and DONE, E Graham... 2nd half stud.... week 16 dud!

The HTH Playoffs are ALL LUCK!....

And I for one am OK with that.

The real skills is making the playoffs every year.... 10 years and counting....

THANKS FBG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is your caps lock broken?

 

[omally]

ALL I WANT TO SAY IS, THIS IS TYPICAL. BETTER TEAM (on paper), LOSES TO MARGINAL TEAM (on paper).NO ILL WILL TO THE LEAGUE CHAMP. THIS IS for those who think they were entitled to the championship based on total points.FYI- Total points means even LESS than head to head. HTH requires you remain involved all year.My league winner made almost no transactions this year. Drafted his team. Won early. Won late. Made playoffs based on 1 in season tie. Has over 100 pts. 2 consecutive weeks.... GAME OVER... Willie Parker DONE, T.O. 1 and DONE, E Graham... 2nd half stud.... week 16 dud!The HTH Playoffs are ALL LUCK!....And I for one am OK with that.

If you were OK with it, you wouldn't have started this thread.

 

[Wildcat]

I always thought a good idea to combat the luck factor was to give the better team a "home field advantage" bonus. They would get a bonus in each playoff game equal to the average points per game that they were better than the other team during the regular season. So in a 13 game regular season, if Team A scored 1300 points and Team B scored 1200 points, Team A would get a 7 point bonus on their score. It helps prevent the teams that dominated all season losing on a fluke bad week.

 

[lebowski]

Doesn't anyone think luck is what makes it fun to a degree? If you crown your champion as the total points leader I would think that by 7 games into the season half the league would have quit for the year. At least with a playoff system you can fight and hope to get in in the end. I was points leader in one league I was in and didn't even make the playoffs with a 9-5 record, while another team in the other division got in with a 6-8 record. Yeah, it was disappointing but at the same time it is what makes the league fun.

 

[Eric]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again. The more players your league starts, the less luck becomes a factor. If you start 8 players or less, one player laying an egg will often cost you the game. If you start 9 or more, the depth of your team makes a lot more of a difference. Starting more players rewards those who draft well and use the WW like a shark. There is no question about this, and I will never understand how you can have fun in a QB,RB,WR,WR,TE,K,Def or similar league. One of my leagues starts QB,QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,WR,TE,Flex,K,K,Def and it is the most fiercely competitive league I've ever been in. If you don't draft for depth and scour the wire for prospects, you're toast.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

In head-to-head, the only advice I can give you is...be luckier.

In total points, the advice is...draft better.

You're wrong about total points being luckier. Your activity couldn't overcome your flaws on draft day. You complain about how Warner "wouldn't be the starter" if not for an injury...but you start Graham? Hello?

There's very little "skill" in fantasy football. A good amount is luck, and a good amount is preparedness. His luck beat your preparedness. But surfing the web is not a "skill." If it was, my resume would be a lot more impressive.

Congratulate the champ and move on. It's just a game.

 

[glock]

qb favre

rb adp

rb fwp

wr holt

wr plaxico

k crosby

d green bay

Depending on your league's scoring format, you may have not broken into DOUBLE FIGURES in scoring with that team, a top 3-10 player at every position.

But, of course, you should have known they would all suck/get hurt when all the chips were on the table...

IT IS INDEED 100% LUCK in any given week.

Perhaps a few too many Packer eggs in one basket?

 

[Todem]

My goal every year is just get in the playoffs and win my division (we get a payout for division winners which is cool).

I only play in dynasty leagues. Gave up redrafts this year.

It is a ton of luck. I think those of us who have been playing this for 15 plus years know this very well. But I agree the best owners seem to be in the post season almost every year unless you get saddled with some bad injuries (like most of my squads did this year).

 

[stbugs]

That's the nature of the beast. In almost every head to head league you will find a team that is has the highest points per game, but their record doesn't reflect that. Personally I like a Head to Head league that gives out a bonus to the team that has the most points at the end of the year, best of both worlds.

Thats how we do it. to winner, 2nd place & the Total points Champ. Also, the #1 pick next year goes to whoever scores the most points in the Consolation bracket during playoffs. So if your team didn't make the Final Four you have every reason to play right to the end to get that #1 pick next year.Oh and BTW.. This is the 4th year of this league and our 4th different Champ!

We do something similar. We award the bulk of the $$$ to the top 3 point teams after week 14. Then the tops teams records wise (points as tie breaker) make the playoffs (top 2 with byes) and the rest of the $$$ gets split between the champion and runner up in the playoffs.I have Brady, TO and Romo (Flex) and I had a bye last week, so no problem with their dud. If I didn't have a bye, I probably would have lost (had Colston and Stecker as well on the plus side). I was the points leader by far and I won this week to get into the championship even though I lost FWP, TO and Colston in the first half of each game and Stecker missed a bunch of time as well. Even Romo got hit as he sucked without TO.Oh well, I still had enough to beat the other team, but there is always a ton of luck in the playoffs. That is why we changed the money after a few years where the dominant team went out in the first round every year.

 

[Bears_Man2]

I always thought a good idea to combat the luck factor was to give the better team a "home field advantage" bonus. They would get a bonus in each playoff game equal to the average points per game that they were better than the other team during the regular season. So in a 13 game regular season, if Team A scored 1300 points and Team B scored 1200 points, Team A would get a 7 point bonus on their score. It helps prevent the teams that dominated all season losing on a fluke bad week.

The way we do it in one of my locals.

 

[NeverEnough]

ZZZZZZZ

I dominated my league. Jennings, Romo, TO, FWP, KJ, GB DEF & Crosby all decided to lay an egg the same week to screw me.

Whatever, I still win $ for total points, but the chaampionship would have been nice too.