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GIANTS @ BEARS GAME THREAD (1 Viewer)

What really amazes me is how different this Bears offense looks in terms of creativity. In the past the Bears would have just kept running the ball up the middle, getting in third and long, and then trying to throw. Now they are running reverses, getting the ball to Forte in the flat, running bubble screens on one side, and then throwing to Forte on the other side. It is just so different from what Bear fans have been watching forever.

 
Shutout said:
TS Garp said:
Thought Jeffery was in for a big week. How wrong I was...
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No, that was last week...when I played against him. I'm playing against Marshall this week so...I play against Cutler next week so start him with confidence. The Bears really have it out for me this year.
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I assume the Giants game plan was to shut down Jeffery and make the Bears beat them with the unproven Forte and Marshall. ;)

 
marshall creid all week so you knew he was gonna get fed to shut him up.just glad im not going up against him this week

 
Some day Eli's grand kids will be looking down on him in his casket, saying goodbye.

And they'll look at each other, kinda tentatively.

And one will be like, "grandpa still looks like a 15 year old goober. Pass the moon whiskey".

 
Mayock...we've seen this before. It's textbook "giving yourself up"

He's bad as an announcer

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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Well no, he "gave himself up" because he made no effort to re-establish the play. He just put the ball into the ground and got up and walked away.

 
The guys are Rotoworld are eating some serious crow. They couldn't stop with the Jacobs jokes all week - run like a dad, runs like he finished a buffet, etc.

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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why are you angry? a guy on the ground thinks the play is over, and isn't making any attempt to advance the ball. If you think about it, that's not much different than a QB kneeling down. At that instant, the ref is supposed to call the play dead. Whether or not he actually blew the whistle in that split second is immaterial. If the runner/receiver/QB/whoever thinks he is down and stops trying to advance...he's down. Period, end of story.

 
Khy said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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Well no, he "gave himself up" because he made no effort to re-establish the play. He just put the ball into the ground and got up and walked away.
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Awesome. So Plaxico just wasn't stupid as a rookie for spinning the ball after making a catch and not being touched.

It's BS. Idiots like Randal shouldn't be helped.

 
Khy said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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Well no, he "gave himself up" because he made no effort to re-establish the play. He just put the ball into the ground and got up and walked away.
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that's still a bad call, though. a few weeks ago RGIII really did give himself up by diving to the ground. the officials determined that even though he dove to the ground and hit the ground prior to the ball coming loose, he wasn't giving himself up and it was a fumble. the officiating has been very inconsistent this year.

 
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Bigboy10182000 said:
Khy said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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Well no, he "gave himself up" because he made no effort to re-establish the play. He just put the ball into the ground and got up and walked away.
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Awesome. So Plaxico just wasn't stupid as a rookie for spinning the ball after making a catch and not being touched.

It's BS. Idiots like Randal shouldn't be helped.
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we saw this exact call on a similar play last year, FWIW

 
renesauz said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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why are you angry? a guy on the ground thinks the play is over, and isn't making any attempt to advance the ball. If you think about it, that's not much different than a QB kneeling down. At that instant, the ref is supposed to call the play dead. Whether or not he actually blew the whistle in that split second is immaterial. If the runner/receiver/QB/whoever thinks he is down and stops trying to advance...he's down. Period, end of story.
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What tipped you off that I was angry, the caps?

It's a BS rule. Is it THAT much to ask that he be touched before just dropping the ball on the ground?

 
Buffaloes said:
Khy said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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Well no, he "gave himself up" because he made no effort to re-establish the play. He just put the ball into the ground and got up and walked away.
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that's still a bad call, though. a few weeks ago RGIII really did give himself up by diving to the ground and after the ball came loose, the officials determined that even though he dove to the ground and hit the ground prior to the ball coming loose, he wasn't giving himself up and it was a fumble. the officiating has been very inconsistent this year.
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Oh sure, but it's not a 'bad call' it's the proper call. He thought he was touched down and didn't make an attempt to re-establish the play. You even have the VP of Officiating on here talking about it being the proper call right now. Either way, after that abysmal challenge against the Eagles last week and then the "personal foul" call earlier? I'll take whatever I can get.

 
Buffaloes said:
Khy said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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Well no, he "gave himself up" because he made no effort to re-establish the play. He just put the ball into the ground and got up and walked away.
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that's still a bad call, though. a few weeks ago RGIII really did give himself up by diving to the ground. the officials determined that even though he dove to the ground and hit the ground prior to the ball coming loose, he wasn't giving himself up and it was a fumble. the officiating has been very inconsistent this year.
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Exactly!

 
Buffaloes said:
Khy said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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Well no, he "gave himself up" because he made no effort to re-establish the play. He just put the ball into the ground and got up and walked away.
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that's still a bad call, though. a few weeks ago RGIII really did give himself up by diving to the ground. the officials determined that even though he dove to the ground and hit the ground prior to the ball coming loose, he wasn't giving himself up and it was a fumble. the officiating has been very inconsistent this year.
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not even remotely close to the same play. RG3 dove forward, an act that clearly indicates an effort to gain yards, and the ball came out as a direct result of that move, a result of TRYING TO GAIN YARDS. IN this case, it came out because the player thought he was already down, and was NOT TRYING to gainyards.

The difference is both obvious and significant, and refusing to see the difference is just silly

 
Khy said:
Buffaloes said:
Khy said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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Well no, he "gave himself up" because he made no effort to re-establish the play. He just put the ball into the ground and got up and walked away.
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that's still a bad call, though. a few weeks ago RGIII really did give himself up by diving to the ground and after the ball came loose, the officials determined that even though he dove to the ground and hit the ground prior to the ball coming loose, he wasn't giving himself up and it was a fumble. the officiating has been very inconsistent this year.
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Oh sure, but it's not a 'bad call' it's the proper call. He thought he was touched down and didn't make an attempt to re-establish the play. You even have the VP of Officiating on here talking about it being the proper call right now. Either way, after that abysmal challenge against the Eagles last week and then the "personal foul" call earlier? I'll take whatever I can get.
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I get the rule but it seems very subjective. See the RG3 example above. Just wait until you're touched and it's pretty simple.

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
renesauz said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
All the nfl wants is effing offense and its BS. Giving yourself up because your pissed you slipped?!
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why are you angry? a guy on the ground thinks the play is over, and isn't making any attempt to advance the ball. If you think about it, that's not much different than a QB kneeling down. At that instant, the ref is supposed to call the play dead. Whether or not he actually blew the whistle in that split second is immaterial. If the runner/receiver/QB/whoever thinks he is down and stops trying to advance...he's down. Period, end of story.
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What tipped you off that I was angry, the caps?

It's a BS rule. Is it THAT much to ask that he be touched before just dropping the ball on the ground?
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not at all...no more than it's not to mch to ask a RB to continue to hold on to the ball after his knee touches the ground, You never know when a ref will screw up a call.

NFL rep in box agreed. Like the rule or not, it was the correct call

 
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