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Giants RB options for 2007 (1 Viewer)
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H.K.
Footballguy
From Rotoworld:
Coughlin to remain as Giants coach
Newsday reports that Tom Coughlin will remain as Giants head coach.
He received a one-year extension, but no word yet on other possible coaching changes. We think it's good news fantasy-wise for the New York offense to maintain continuity. It makes Brandon Jacobs' future more certain as well. Jan. 10 - 11:51 am et
Source: Newsday
Coughlin to remain as Giants coach
Newsday reports that Tom Coughlin will remain as Giants head coach.
He received a one-year extension, but no word yet on other possible coaching changes. We think it's good news fantasy-wise for the New York offense to maintain continuity. It makes Brandon Jacobs' future more certain as well. Jan. 10 - 11:51 am et
Source: Newsday
zamboni
Footballguy
I mentioned this in the Turner thread, but Coughlin was on the Mike and The Mad Dog show last night and the question turned to Jacobs replacing Tiki. Coughlin said that while the offense will need to be changed a bit, Jacobs "is the front runner" and they have "every confidence in him". While things can change, it looks like Jacobs may very well be given an opportunity to be the guy.
pretender
Footballguy
As a Jacobs owner that is nice to hear!
pelland
Footballguy
The Jacobs hype is off and running!
from Scott Engel "One man Mock for 2007" ESPN -
12. Brandon Jacobs, RB, Giants: He will be picked earlier than this slot in many leagues. Jacobs will be the most talked-about possible breakthrough player for 2007.
from Brandon Funston Big Board on Yahoo-
14 Brandon Jacobs, NYG RB 16 TDs in 134 career attempts; Should see 200+ in '07
I own him in a dynasty league and I am hoping he becomes a feature back but I would not draft him in the late 1st or early 2nd!
from Scott Engel "One man Mock for 2007" ESPN -
12. Brandon Jacobs, RB, Giants: He will be picked earlier than this slot in many leagues. Jacobs will be the most talked-about possible breakthrough player for 2007.
from Brandon Funston Big Board on Yahoo-
14 Brandon Jacobs, NYG RB 16 TDs in 134 career attempts; Should see 200+ in '07
I own him in a dynasty league and I am hoping he becomes a feature back but I would not draft him in the late 1st or early 2nd!
H.K.
Footballguy
Wow...Top 15 seems a little too rich for my blood.FWIW, Jacobs needs three things to occur in the off season to rank him a Top 20 RB in PPR in August:1) Coughlin retained - Already done. This means its probably safe to assume he'll keep his SD/GL role, with potential for the 200 touches he'll need to make Top 202) Giants do not take an RB in the first round, possibly second, who could be a legitimate RB1.3) No FA RB's are brought in that could be feature guys. IMHO, there is still a long way to go to determine his value right now, unless its a TD heavy format.
pelland
Footballguy
Good points! I agree there are too many unknown factors to rank him this high this early. The potential is there but the opportunity could disappear quickly.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
I don't know why you think they'll have to 'trade' for one.... but if that's what you want them to do, throw Thomas Jones into the mix, as he's a UFA after the '07 season and he'd love to get out of Chicago and away from Cedric Benson.
Personally, I think they'd be better off drafting a RB in Round 1 or 2.
Personally, I think they'd be better off drafting a RB in Round 1 or 2.
H.K.
Footballguy
A) two options discussed were draft & free agency, not tradesB) WTF are you talking to?
that's exactly what the Jets paid for Martin so they might
patchyfogg
Footballguy
As you all know by now, I co-host a 100% commercial-free, no one makes a dime from it, Sports Talk radio show on Long Island.
Last night, we had Daily News beat reporter Ralph Vacchiano on with us. Ralph was even kind enough to link to it in his Blog today.
The interview is 21+ commercial-free minutes and only covers the Giants. Here is a list of the topics discussed in chronological order:
--The firing of Tim Lewis
--What kinds of changes is ownership expecting?
--Dom Capers
--Kevin Gilbride
--Eli as a leader
--Brandon Jacobs (team really likes him, faster than Tiki)
--What kind of veteran RB would be brought in?
--Jerry Reese
--The dynamic between the Maras and the Tischs today
--A discussion of John and Chris Mara
--Did Tom Coughlin really "lose" the team?
--Who was complaining anonymously?
--Why did the players despise Hufnagel and his plays so much?
--A discussion of all things Tiki, the good and the bad.
--Will Michael Strahan be back?
--Will Burress and Shockey continue to work out away from the team in the off-season?
The interview can be found at the free site where we post our interviews:
http://hosted.filefront.com/patchyfogg
I hope you get a chance to listen, and I hope that you enjoy. As always, thanks.
Last night, we had Daily News beat reporter Ralph Vacchiano on with us. Ralph was even kind enough to link to it in his Blog today.
The interview is 21+ commercial-free minutes and only covers the Giants. Here is a list of the topics discussed in chronological order:
--The firing of Tim Lewis
--What kinds of changes is ownership expecting?
--Dom Capers
--Kevin Gilbride
--Eli as a leader
--Brandon Jacobs (team really likes him, faster than Tiki)
--What kind of veteran RB would be brought in?
--Jerry Reese
--The dynamic between the Maras and the Tischs today
--A discussion of John and Chris Mara
--Did Tom Coughlin really "lose" the team?
--Who was complaining anonymously?
--Why did the players despise Hufnagel and his plays so much?
--A discussion of all things Tiki, the good and the bad.
--Will Michael Strahan be back?
--Will Burress and Shockey continue to work out away from the team in the off-season?
The interview can be found at the free site where we post our interviews:
http://hosted.filefront.com/patchyfogg
I hope you get a chance to listen, and I hope that you enjoy. As always, thanks.
nightshift
Footballguy
Has Tiki officially retired?
he's probably negotiating the date. I think after the March FA date he gets more $.
nightshift
Footballguy
pelland
Footballguy
Stick a fork in him, he's D-U-N Done!"Tiki Barber has agreed to a four-year, $10 million contract with ABC News and ESPN, according to the New York Post." 01JAN07
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
If you're talking Michael Turner, you're talking trade. So wtf are you talking about? He's a RESTRICTED free agent. You don't get a restricted free agent without ponying up draft picks...
B) WTF are you talking to?
I haven't looked at his contract at NFLPA or anything, just a guess as it usually happens.If the player leaves his contract early he has to pay back X amount of his bonus, if he retires or is cut before March he gets paid all of 06, if he gets cut after March he gets some of 07. The "some" is just a "thank you" small small percent of his salary. It makes for a nice date and ceremony and all, not just end of the season and you never hear from the player again.
H.K.
Footballguy
We know. This was covered in the very first post of the thread.I guess I should have specified UFA's in my previous post.You brought up Thomas Jones, he would definitely be a fit in NY....but do the Bears really want to turn it over to Benson full time? What about the impact to team chemistry, nottomention RB depth?
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nightshift
Footballguy
A lot of otpions for them at RB besides Turner & Green.
Freddie Taylor - Looks like he wants out of JAX.
Greg Jones - If JAX keeps Freddie, do they really need Jones?
Marcel Shipp - UFA right now.
Chris Brown - ugh. But his price maybe right.
Ricky Williams - New coach may not want his headaches.
Freddie Taylor - Looks like he wants out of JAX.
Greg Jones - If JAX keeps Freddie, do they really need Jones?
Marcel Shipp - UFA right now.
Chris Brown - ugh. But his price maybe right.
Ricky Williams - New coach may not want his headaches.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
I think the Bears are definitely open to that, if the draft pick is right. Their 3rd string RB Adrian Peterson is more than capable as a backup RB.
I don't think so. After the Cards, I don't know if he can handle NY. Different animal press wise and not everyone can.
H.K.
Footballguy
Gilbride New NYG OC
link
blurb from article on RB situation:
The offense Gilbride takes over will be without retired running back Tiki Barber, the team's all-time rushing leader. It also lacked a big-play threat at wide receiver to complement Plaxico Burress after Amani Toomer was lost for the season with a knee injury in early November.
Gilbride said the Giants hope to add a running back through the draft or free agency who will vie for playing time alongside Brandon Jacobs.
link
blurb from article on RB situation:
The offense Gilbride takes over will be without retired running back Tiki Barber, the team's all-time rushing leader. It also lacked a big-play threat at wide receiver to complement Plaxico Burress after Amani Toomer was lost for the season with a knee injury in early November.
Gilbride said the Giants hope to add a running back through the draft or free agency who will vie for playing time alongside Brandon Jacobs.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I think they have to add someone, because the cupboard behind Jacobs is very bare.
H.K.
Footballguy
Absolutely. However, I like the sound of "vie for playing time alongside Jacobs" as opposed to "replace Barber". Sounds like RBBC at the worst, with a chance for Jacobs to win the majority of the work. Another poster submitted a webcast re: the Giants off-season and it featured a local beat writer. The beat writer knew Reese would be tabbbed the GM before it occured, and also felt that the Giants were happy with Jacobs and they felt comfortable he'd be their guy in 2007. He acknowledged they'd need another RB for depth/insurance purposes, too....hardly a surprise given their roster.
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wickster33
Footballguy
THey'll definitely draft a running back, but it will matter greatly whether its a guy like Lynch in the first round or a lesser back in the 5th round. I'll be surprised if BJ doesn't end up with the job in the preseason, but if Coughlin is smart, nobody on the Giants will have a guaranteed job.
Banger
Footballguy
Agreed. The Giants could be on the edge of being a pretty horrible team IMO. Their line is bad, QB is average at best right now, running game is up in the air, they have a good but always banged up TE and one good wr. On defense they have a couple good players but their best one is getting old and was banged up the entire 2nd half. Even if NY didn't bring in someone else to compete/take the starting gig, I wouldn't put him in my top 20 with the shape the team is in and his limited action. Yes, he can punch it in from the goal line but don't forget that they had one of the best RB's in the league giving him the opportunities on a silver platter, he didn't have to move the chains all the way down the field.
Nah. You're probably right about chi-town vs AZ. I don't know how to explain it but growing up in the area, you just realize that certain people won't make it in NY and it's just not for them. Sorry it's just a gut feeling.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Agreed, but of COURSE it sounds like RBBC at worst. Only a really poor leader would come in and say "Jacobs isn't the guy, so we're shopping for a starting RB". So honestly, Gilbride's comment doesn't' really tell me much - except that Gilbride isn't an idiot.H.K. said:
"come in and say"?Just a heads up, Gilbride has been there as the QB coach and sorta pal to Coughlin that helps with just about everything. Not a new coach type thing, he's been thereIf you meant "come in" to the presser, well I think it would have been very cool to say "We're rolling with Brandon, Tiki's retiring and that's what we drafted him for." Show some confidence in him. Not every individual needs to be tested/challenged every offseason. Brandon is a beast. There's little doubt in my mind he pushes himself plenty and the "challenge" won't affect his workout routine.
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Banger
Footballguy
One thing that I thought was odd during the last few games was how little Jacobs was used. Yes, I understand that it was Tiki's last hoorah and he's a better back and they wanted to use him but there were certain short yardage situations in both the red zone and on 3rd and 4th downs that seemed to be earmarked for him and his number wasn't called. Earlier in the year he was getting all those carries and when Gillbride took over it seemed to change. It could be coincidence, don't really know. I do know that I was shocked on short yardage on two occassions when bigboy Lorenzon came in to try and get the 1st down instead of Jacobs. That still has me puzzled.
H.K.
Footballguy
Damn good point, I noticed the same thing.The final three games Jacobs had 8 carries, and didn't play vs. NO in Week 16 despite being active....IIRC, he may have hurt his ankle, so maybe that was the reason.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
He was hurt in week 13 or 14 I believe. wasn't used as much after that.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
It was early in the week 15 game
New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin said on Monday that running back Brandon Jacobs suffered an ankle injury during the team's Week 15 game. No additional information is currently available.
New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin said on Monday that running back Brandon Jacobs suffered an ankle injury during the team's Week 15 game. No additional information is currently available.
Brady has been incredible at getting 1st with those 1 yard QB sneaks/dives this year. Maybe they figured the hefty lefty was even better at that? I don't know, good point
Only the last week and the wildcard week were Gilbride's baby, but was he still hurt? Can't recall injury report.
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fruity pebbles
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