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Give me ONE player who is lighting it up in training camp (1 Viewer)

'Sabertooth said:
'JHuber77 said:
'Sabertooth said:
'Carver said:
'Sabertooth said:
Lloyd WR DEN..just as long as Orton is the QB he will have another big year and whoever has gotten(stolen)him in the 4,5,6th rounds so far is going to have an edge. He's no fluke.
I've been beating this drum all offseason.
Knee doesnt scare you?
First I've heard of the knee. MFL saying it is just some swelling but thanks for the headsup. Knee aside, I really like his value.
You shouldn't with Eric Decker in the mix.
Care to expound on that a little bit? I'd love to read an article supporting this.
If you look at Lloyd's career, it isn't impressive at all. I would say he is more a product of the McDaniels system. Coupled with the fact that John Fox loves to run the football and the uncertainty at QB in Denver, this could be another down year for Lloyd. With his lofty average draft position and a swollen knee, you should pass. Eric Decker has prototypical size (6'3" 220). If Lloyd were to miss any time due to the knee, Decker would start right away. The only other competition in Denver is Royal who's natural position is the slot and Demaryius Thomas who isn't healthy. Not to mention that you can get Decker in the last round of your draft or off the waiver wire. Lloyd you have to snag in the late 4th or early 5th round ahead of proven WR's, top flight TE's, QB, or a second or third RB. Passhttp://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5359272This story is about Decker from last year, but you get the idea
 
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Packer camp DJ Williams the TE. If Finley gets hurt again he could be a sleeper-has been catching most everything thrown, cuts well and seems to fit well in the offense so far.

 
'Cecil Lammey said:
day 13 notes here:

final point of the night: Daniel Fells looks strong as blocker, caught TD pass from Orton too - 2TE sets will feature he & JT I believe

being raw can sometimes be beneficial because there's no bad habits or preconceived notions, JT caught TD pass from Orton today



Orange Julius is such a good listener, really takes to coaching well, will get a tip then immediately implements it to his game

I went to Orange Julius tonight and couldn't stop thinking about Julius Thomas!

towards the end of practice he did get a good seal block, but that's a very simple task, give him credit for getting his man though

Vickerson took the pop, stayed upright, found the ball carrier (white) and made the tackle - stay with it Virgil!

Green did have a nice crackback block on Kevin Vickerson, however after Green blindsided him he didn't stay with it

speaking of missing blocks, on to Virgil Green! still reaching, not using his frame to square up defenders as a blocker

I give him credit for staying in after getting twisted up, but next play he missed his block cause he couldn't get to defender

on to TEs - Richard Quinn sprained his knee, no word on severity, he stayed in after it happened for a play or two

Anderson never going to be big play threat but can work short and underneath routes, knows how to find soft spots in a zone



As I tweeted earlier David Anderson just gets open and catches everything, that equals a QBs best friend right there!

Britt Davis showed good hops to go with his size, still a longshot to make final roster though

Matthew Willis had a good day showing ability to catch out of reach passes by extra burst when ball comes in

no Eddie meant more of Decker, commented on poor route earlier, ED also inconsistent catching the football, seems frustrated at times

$$$Lloyd makes it look so easy, a treat to watch him every day in practice, tip toe TD catches, insane body control, twisting catches

before I get to WRs just a note that Eddie Royal sat out today's practice for precautionary reasons



JJ lane was blocked caught in backfield, he bounced to 0 gap, drew in LB, then BOUNCED to 8 hole & picked up 5yds - best 5yd run in practice

rinse/repeat on earlier reports from JJ, his best play of the day came when he turned a loss of 8yds into a 5yd gain

Johnson is unlikely to crack the starting lineup unless injuries hit in front of him on the depth chart, can be valuable backup IMHO

saving the best for last here: Jeremiah Johnson, guy just needs to stay healthy and he could play his way into a role here

Minor did a good job today of picking and choosing his holes/cutbacks and displayed good footwork

saw a couple of nice things from Brandon Minor today, can stop/start effectively and doesn't lose much momentum when he does it

Ball jumped (again) but it wasn't to sky over pile like yesterday, instead he hopped over trash at LOS turned neg into positive play

Lance Ball started out cold, but got better as the day went on - swallowed up on early runs, still runs low w/good leg drive though

White continues to show good footwork (not a surprise) and has a good understanding of where holes are going to be in this offense

LenDale White ran better today, pressed 2 hole one step cutback led to 20yd gain up the middle got to top 'speed' quickly

quick note on CJ Gable, showed crisp cuts and good change of direction skills, better in open field not determined inside runner

Oops! missed a note on Lightness... when trying to hide behind linemen waiting for cutback DOOM sniffed him out, loss of 2 on play

McGahee ran strong again and looks to be the best pure runner on this team, nice blend of size/power/speed - bigger runs than Lightness (27)

great runners know how to 'set up' or 'toy' with the defense - McGahee understands what he needs to do in order to be effective in 2nd level

Willis first run was a big cutback for 30yd TD, he pressed the hole, wiggled (to freeze D) then cutback to wide open lane...6 points

Wanna know how bad Woodyard is in coverage? McGahee easily got open versus him on out route, Willis gr8 runner, avg receiver

final point on Moreno, outside runs have to stay outside, can't run the stretch because of lack of suddenness

wanna know how bad DJ Williams is in coverage? Moreno slipped *gasp* on route, still got open against DJ caught pass for 10yd gain

If the play is designed to go outside then Moreno can get you 5yds, but if he has to bounce from clogged hole it's a loss of yards

That's a bad combination for a guy playing in a zone system, he's too hesitant, will run right into back of OL then bounce outside 2 nothing

Anyway, back to Moreno -- he was hitting the hole hard, when it's there, cannot gather himself and change direction quickly

McGahee's lack of carries says to me 'fresh legs' not 'guy can't carry heavy load' - can some please get a #realitycheck ????



It's ####ing ridiculous to use that argument! McGahee was never going to play in front of Ray Rice when the kid was ready

for those who say McGahee can't carry 220+ times because 'he hasn't done it in 3 yrs' I say this: HE WAS BACKING UP RAY RICE 1 of the best!

Once again Moreno was completely outplayed by Willis McGahee

In my opinion, part of getting the most out of this team will mean making Knowshon Moreno the backup/change of pace RB

As I've said many times on @TheTicketDenver - @johnelway cares 4 u #broncos fans, he loves u and will do his best to make this tm gr8 again

b4 I get to RBs, I just want to say how nice it is to see @johnelway on the sidelines monitoring practice every day

At first I was like 'tsk, tsk' then saw what Quinn did after he reset and I was like 'nice!' - Brady Quinn's play continues to refresh

The double clutch from Brady Quinn was reminiscent of #steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger, motion almost thru, holds up, redirects then fires

Again, trusting what he sees/feels - using his knowledge/instincts, not acting like a robot

Quinn did double clutch a pass, something that is usually a no-no -- however, he saw Anderson come free on a diff route and changed his mind

Quinn is firing in a good rhythm most of the time, he liked finding David Anderson who manages to ALWAYS be open

Brady Quinn continues to look impressive, but like Orton I want to see him do it in a game - the confidence needs to carry over

Tebow was bootlegging, something that plays to his strength, however he couldn't outrun DOOM who 'sacked' him coming from other side

Tebow's bark can draw defense offsides, however on a scramble he got careless with the football, fumble lost and frustration mounts



If Tebow can read the defense better before the ball is snapped it will help his anticipation, help him 'see' the field better

I want to see Tebow read progressions quickly, hit back step on drop and fire, presnap reads also need improvement



listen, talk about Tebow's throwing motion if ####ed out - he's never going to have a clean motion - his biggest hurdle is mental side of gm

when he's waiting for route to come over he should at least look off, not just stare at a guy running a long developing route

Tebow struggled again today, locked onto Orange Julius thru ENTIRE route, got it picked off

rinse, repeat for Orton in practice - looks good when he can't get hit, not much to add, just waiting to see him handle pressure in a game

some wondered aloud after Bailey pick if the cheers were for the vet CB or were they for Orton looking bad

Orton's recent comments about pleasing the fans last did not sit well with some at practice, heckling for KO continues

body control needs to be precise, even on quicker, shorter routes like inside slants - keep defender away from the ball at all costs

I felt Decker could have helped Orton on that throw by using his frame better to 'box out' Bailey

starting w/QBs - Kyle Orton should know better than to test Champ Bailey, he targeted Eric Decker on slant, CB ducked under & snagged fball

Looking for potential waiver wire additions, cuts are getting close and #broncos may not be done making moves

Brian Xanders said in an interview on @TheTicketDenver that Denver has an 8-man group of scouts that scour the bottom 40 of every team

here's the day 13 notes from #broncos HQ...first off DC Dennis Allen is a great teacher, fantastic tips & insight for vets & younger guys
'werdnoynek said:
i've got to add, i'm not a bronco's fan. but lammey's coverage on the broncos is top notch. i wish beat writers would follow a similar format. so much easier to track.

big ups cecil and big ups $$$loyd and orangejulius. back to sleep.
Dynasty league Decker owner here, and based on the tc posts that Cecil has for $$$Lloyd, I made a trade to obtain him.
I was going to say....these are great reports for sure. Based on the constant Jeremiah Johnson is out playing Moreno and McGahee is out playing Moreno observations....Jeremiah Johnson should be added to this thread. Something should open up during the season, it always does. Remember that one year where McGahee was always in and out of the game with minor injuries. He was a warrior that year, but always trotting into the locker room to get checked out for a quarter.
 
If you look at Lloyd's career, it isn't impressive at all. I would say he is more a product of the McDaniels system. Coupled with the fact that John Fox loves to run the football and the uncertainty at QB in Denver, this could be another down year for Lloyd. With his lofty average draft position and a swollen knee, you should pass. Eric Decker has prototypical size (6'3" 220). If Lloyd were to miss any time due to the knee, Decker would start right away. The only other competition in Denver is Royal who's natural position is the slot and Demaryius Thomas who isn't healthy. Not to mention that you can get Decker in the last round of your draft or off the waiver wire. Lloyd you have to snag in the late 4th or early 5th round ahead of proven WR's, top flight TE's, QB, or a second or third RB. Passhttp://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5359272This story is about Decker from last year, but you get the idea
I'm sold on Lloyd's ability. However you do make good points regarding Decker. Fox does love to run, however he was at the helm when Steve Smith and Muhsin Muhammed had top tier success. The swollen knee is a concern as well, but I'm not super worried about that. Decker might be a nice flyer late. But he's not in Lloyd's class for ability yet.
 
'Cecil Lammey said:
day 13 notes here:

final point of the night: Daniel Fells looks strong as blocker, caught TD pass from Orton too - 2TE sets will feature he & JT I believe

being raw can sometimes be beneficial because there's no bad habits or preconceived notions, JT caught TD pass from Orton today



Orange Julius is such a good listener, really takes to coaching well, will get a tip then immediately implements it to his game

I went to Orange Julius tonight and couldn't stop thinking about Julius Thomas!

towards the end of practice he did get a good seal block, but that's a very simple task, give him credit for getting his man though

Vickerson took the pop, stayed upright, found the ball carrier (white) and made the tackle - stay with it Virgil!

Green did have a nice crackback block on Kevin Vickerson, however after Green blindsided him he didn't stay with it

speaking of missing blocks, on to Virgil Green! still reaching, not using his frame to square up defenders as a blocker

I give him credit for staying in after getting twisted up, but next play he missed his block cause he couldn't get to defender

on to TEs - Richard Quinn sprained his knee, no word on severity, he stayed in after it happened for a play or two

Anderson never going to be big play threat but can work short and underneath routes, knows how to find soft spots in a zone



As I tweeted earlier David Anderson just gets open and catches everything, that equals a QBs best friend right there!

Britt Davis showed good hops to go with his size, still a longshot to make final roster though

Matthew Willis had a good day showing ability to catch out of reach passes by extra burst when ball comes in

no Eddie meant more of Decker, commented on poor route earlier, ED also inconsistent catching the football, seems frustrated at times

$$$Lloyd makes it look so easy, a treat to watch him every day in practice, tip toe TD catches, insane body control, twisting catches

before I get to WRs just a note that Eddie Royal sat out today's practice for precautionary reasons



JJ lane was blocked caught in backfield, he bounced to 0 gap, drew in LB, then BOUNCED to 8 hole & picked up 5yds - best 5yd run in practice

rinse/repeat on earlier reports from JJ, his best play of the day came when he turned a loss of 8yds into a 5yd gain

Johnson is unlikely to crack the starting lineup unless injuries hit in front of him on the depth chart, can be valuable backup IMHO

saving the best for last here: Jeremiah Johnson, guy just needs to stay healthy and he could play his way into a role here

Minor did a good job today of picking and choosing his holes/cutbacks and displayed good footwork

saw a couple of nice things from Brandon Minor today, can stop/start effectively and doesn't lose much momentum when he does it

Ball jumped (again) but it wasn't to sky over pile like yesterday, instead he hopped over trash at LOS turned neg into positive play

Lance Ball started out cold, but got better as the day went on - swallowed up on early runs, still runs low w/good leg drive though

White continues to show good footwork (not a surprise) and has a good understanding of where holes are going to be in this offense

LenDale White ran better today, pressed 2 hole one step cutback led to 20yd gain up the middle got to top 'speed' quickly

quick note on CJ Gable, showed crisp cuts and good change of direction skills, better in open field not determined inside runner

Oops! missed a note on Lightness... when trying to hide behind linemen waiting for cutback DOOM sniffed him out, loss of 2 on play

McGahee ran strong again and looks to be the best pure runner on this team, nice blend of size/power/speed - bigger runs than Lightness (27)

great runners know how to 'set up' or 'toy' with the defense - McGahee understands what he needs to do in order to be effective in 2nd level

Willis first run was a big cutback for 30yd TD, he pressed the hole, wiggled (to freeze D) then cutback to wide open lane...6 points

Wanna know how bad Woodyard is in coverage? McGahee easily got open versus him on out route, Willis gr8 runner, avg receiver

final point on Moreno, outside runs have to stay outside, can't run the stretch because of lack of suddenness

wanna know how bad DJ Williams is in coverage? Moreno slipped *gasp* on route, still got open against DJ caught pass for 10yd gain

If the play is designed to go outside then Moreno can get you 5yds, but if he has to bounce from clogged hole it's a loss of yards

That's a bad combination for a guy playing in a zone system, he's too hesitant, will run right into back of OL then bounce outside 2 nothing

Anyway, back to Moreno -- he was hitting the hole hard, when it's there, cannot gather himself and change direction quickly

McGahee's lack of carries says to me 'fresh legs' not 'guy can't carry heavy load' - can some please get a #realitycheck ????



It's ####ing ridiculous to use that argument! McGahee was never going to play in front of Ray Rice when the kid was ready

for those who say McGahee can't carry 220+ times because 'he hasn't done it in 3 yrs' I say this: HE WAS BACKING UP RAY RICE 1 of the best!

Once again Moreno was completely outplayed by Willis McGahee

In my opinion, part of getting the most out of this team will mean making Knowshon Moreno the backup/change of pace RB

As I've said many times on @TheTicketDenver - @johnelway cares 4 u #broncos fans, he loves u and will do his best to make this tm gr8 again

b4 I get to RBs, I just want to say how nice it is to see @johnelway on the sidelines monitoring practice every day

At first I was like 'tsk, tsk' then saw what Quinn did after he reset and I was like 'nice!' - Brady Quinn's play continues to refresh

The double clutch from Brady Quinn was reminiscent of #steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger, motion almost thru, holds up, redirects then fires

Again, trusting what he sees/feels - using his knowledge/instincts, not acting like a robot

Quinn did double clutch a pass, something that is usually a no-no -- however, he saw Anderson come free on a diff route and changed his mind

Quinn is firing in a good rhythm most of the time, he liked finding David Anderson who manages to ALWAYS be open

Brady Quinn continues to look impressive, but like Orton I want to see him do it in a game - the confidence needs to carry over

Tebow was bootlegging, something that plays to his strength, however he couldn't outrun DOOM who 'sacked' him coming from other side

Tebow's bark can draw defense offsides, however on a scramble he got careless with the football, fumble lost and frustration mounts



If Tebow can read the defense better before the ball is snapped it will help his anticipation, help him 'see' the field better

I want to see Tebow read progressions quickly, hit back step on drop and fire, presnap reads also need improvement



listen, talk about Tebow's throwing motion if ####ed out - he's never going to have a clean motion - his biggest hurdle is mental side of gm

when he's waiting for route to come over he should at least look off, not just stare at a guy running a long developing route

Tebow struggled again today, locked onto Orange Julius thru ENTIRE route, got it picked off

rinse, repeat for Orton in practice - looks good when he can't get hit, not much to add, just waiting to see him handle pressure in a game

some wondered aloud after Bailey pick if the cheers were for the vet CB or were they for Orton looking bad

Orton's recent comments about pleasing the fans last did not sit well with some at practice, heckling for KO continues

body control needs to be precise, even on quicker, shorter routes like inside slants - keep defender away from the ball at all costs

I felt Decker could have helped Orton on that throw by using his frame better to 'box out' Bailey

starting w/QBs - Kyle Orton should know better than to test Champ Bailey, he targeted Eric Decker on slant, CB ducked under & snagged fball

Looking for potential waiver wire additions, cuts are getting close and #broncos may not be done making moves

Brian Xanders said in an interview on @TheTicketDenver that Denver has an 8-man group of scouts that scour the bottom 40 of every team

here's the day 13 notes from #broncos HQ...first off DC Dennis Allen is a great teacher, fantastic tips & insight for vets & younger guys
'werdnoynek said:
i've got to add, i'm not a bronco's fan. but lammey's coverage on the broncos is top notch. i wish beat writers would follow a similar format. so much easier to track.

big ups cecil and big ups $$$loyd and orangejulius. back to sleep.
Dynasty league Decker owner here, and based on the tc posts that Cecil has for $$$Lloyd, I made a trade to obtain him.
I was going to say....these are great reports for sure. Based on the constant Jeremiah Johnson is out playing Moreno and McGahee is out playing Moreno observations....Jeremiah Johnson should be added to this thread. Something should open up during the season, it always does. Remember that one year where McGahee was always in and out of the game with minor injuries. He was a warrior that year, but always trotting into the locker room to get checked out for a quarter.
And Fox isn't married to any of these guys. He does doggedly stick to veterans though as witnessed by Deshaun Foster starting over DeAngelo and Stephen Davis starting over Foster before that. This is another thing to consider in the Lloyd thread. Fox likes veterans. Decker is still wet behind the ears.

 
It's pretty difficult to really light things up in NE with all the pass catching talent available ... but Taylor Price seems to be having an excellent camp from all the camp notes I've seen. :popcorn:
Has he surpassed Tate yet?
I believe so, really, only time will tell, I think Tate may need to be concerned about Jeremy Ross (UDFA-WR/KR - Cal) slipping by him on the depth chart moreso than Price right now .. you gotta be on the field in camp to win your job when your deep on the depth chart. :popcorn:
 
Armanti Edwards has switched it on this season compared to last. I don't blame him, to be honest. The John Fox regime had no intention of using him in 2010 and he was raw as a route runner and a punt returner. How can you blame him when he was transitioning from college quarterback to pro wide receiver? It's not exactly a stroll. Edwards has been very impressive in camp and he had a couple of terrific punt returns and catches in last nights' game.

 
Armanti Edwards has switched it on this season compared to last. I don't blame him, to be honest. The John Fox regime had no intention of using him in 2010 and he was raw as a route runner and a punt returner. How can you blame him when he was transitioning from college quarterback to pro wide receiver? It's not exactly a stroll. Edwards has been very impressive in camp and he had a couple of terrific punt returns and catches in last nights' game.
Should be interesting battle between him and Pilares who both seem to be impressing. Pilares looks like a beast after the catch. Not to mention Naane or Lafell, but I don't think those guys have as much upside as the other 2
 
Mon Aug 15 8:42:00 a.m. ET 2011

(Rotoworld) Fourth-round WR Cecil Shorts continues to shine at Jaguars camp.

Analysis: Shorts has turned into the star of Jags camp. Beat writer Tania Ganguli says she is "impressed by at least one catch he makes in nearly every practice" and adds that Shorts is "looking really, really good." He's pushing for hard for the starting slot gig ahead of Jarett Dillard.

 
again for the really deeeeeeeeeeeeep leagues (I wish my dynasty league had enough roster spots)

WR - DeMarco Sampson, AZ

When Larry Fitzgerald says a receiver has great hands and runs good routes - I listen
Didn't he say the same thing about Stephen Williams last season? With Roberts, Doucet, Stuckey, and Williams seems the path is blocked. So does this guy look good enough to make the 53?
I wouldn't say blocked, but certainly tough road/project, hence the deeeeeeeeeeeepBUT Doucet is always a minute away from another injury and Williams has regressed to the point we never hear of him - and several stations here have almost daily camp reports, so I could see him making the team. I think he would have been drafted higher but for small school (SDSU) and I believe he had an injury in his senior year. But yes, a project who might well start on PS - but someone to watch.
Is Sampson really a soon to be 26 year old rookie (FBG lists his birthday as 12-18-85)? If so, anyone know the story on why so late to arrive?Found this: Rookie DeMarco Sampson(notes), a seventh-round pick, has looked like a veteran in camp. He runs good routes and has good hands. Sampson missed two college seasons because of injuries, so he’s older and seems mature. He’ll contend with Max Komar(notes) for the fifth or sixth receiver’s spot. sports.yahoo.com

 
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Denarious Moore still looking great. Randall Cobb looking good as well. I came away from the Packers game completely unimpressed with Kevin Kolb. He can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Ryan Grant appears to be back and ready to carry the load. I know people are talking about Starks and Green, but Grant is the guy here. Pencil him in for a year similar to 2009.

 

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