ESPN is pushing it hard because it's what people want to see. If you think they have the greater good in mind, you're fooling yourself. They're just as much about money as the NFL.I expect the votes to start swinging the other way over the next couple days here.
ESPN is pushing this hard (rightfully so), and well respected former players working in the media are pushing hard as well.
Exactly what I expected. I'm sure the PR guys wrote it for him.The heat just got turned up BIG TIME on Goodell.
I never really thought his job was in jeopardy but his press conference was an epic fail. So transparent that money drives all decisions and his rhetoric comes off as hubris, and frankly...dishonest.
yepFranknbeans said:The reason he had the presser was to give the appearance to the sponsors that he was doing something about these problems.Jerry Curl said:Only reason he had a presser was because people are unsatisfied with how many games Rice got. He didnt do anything wrong, this like everything was tailored to the media. The embarrassing thing is this is a man of his stature answering to people who have no bearing on his job.Faust said:NFL needed a decisive leader and Roger Goodell punts instead:
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24716523/nfl-needed-a-decisive-leader-and-roger-goodell-punts-instead
Pressure from whom? From the owners to the commissioner? From the sponsors to the owners to the commissioner? From the general public to the sponsors to the owners to the commissioner?Short of him being found indisputably part of the cover-up in the Ray Rice stuff, nothing changes. If Bud Selig survived this long--hell if Gary Bettman, who is the biggest boob of any commissioner of a major sport in my lifetime, can survive as NHL commissioner for as long as he has--Roger Goodell will remain commissioner for a long time, as well.What a mess. Pressure will force the firing of Goodell at some point. Although he's not the only one at fault, he will take the fall.
Sad that the media and their narrative dictate if a person keeps their job or not.I expect the votes to start swinging the other way over the next couple days here.
ESPN is pushing this hard (rightfully so), and well respected former players working in the media are pushing hard as well.
ESPN is so in bed with the NFL that I can't see why they would run something that makes Goodell and the Ravens brass look so bad unless there are some powerful people in the NFL that want them to look bad.I expect the votes to start swinging the other way over the next couple days here.
ESPN is pushing this hard (rightfully so), and well respected former players working in the media are pushing hard as well.
I'm fairly new year, but I am doing my best to hold this tongue of mine to a lot of the hatred.A lot of this whole thing proves how stupid the public is.
Goodell is no saint...not great...blah blah blah. I get that.
Just calling him incompetent and constantly wanting his head for this as if he punched some woman or hit a kid is the laughable part.
What commissioner has the public liked recently? During their tenures, nearly every commissioner is disliked. And the public always thinks they know better how to run a league. Its laughable how ignorant people are about it.
Ive asked before...in multiple places...one of the biggest issues people bring up with Goodell is inconsistency. What has he been inconsistent about? Not just vague things...bring actual examples.
Also read some idiot comparing this to the Catholic Church. Please...the church was covering up actual crimes and keeping them even from the authorities. The NFL did not do such a thing. Did the Ravens ask for leniance...yes. But was any of it actually covered up from police or a judge?
If Goodell was held to his own standard as to truth telling and being responsible for his own organization's inner workings in the face of public allegations he would be suspended for a year. That would suffice.I'm fairly new year, but I am doing my best to hold this tongue of mine to a lot of the hatred.A lot of this whole thing proves how stupid the public is.
Goodell is no saint...not great...blah blah blah. I get that.
Just calling him incompetent and constantly wanting his head for this as if he punched some woman or hit a kid is the laughable part.
What commissioner has the public liked recently? During their tenures, nearly every commissioner is disliked. And the public always thinks they know better how to run a league. Its laughable how ignorant people are about it.
Ive asked before...in multiple places...one of the biggest issues people bring up with Goodell is inconsistency. What has he been inconsistent about? Not just vague things...bring actual examples.
Also read some idiot comparing this to the Catholic Church. Please...the church was covering up actual crimes and keeping them even from the authorities. The NFL did not do such a thing. Did the Ravens ask for leniance...yes. But was any of it actually covered up from police or a judge?
The amount of people here without class, intelligence and understanding that their opinion is not law is amazing isn't it?
As a member of society, I am ashamed that people think that they should have a say in everything that results in a punishment. People asked for Rice to get booted, he did, were they satisfied? People want ADP gone, are they satisfied? Hardy, gone, they satisfied? No, they still talk looking for someone to blame.
If Goodell gets fired or resigns would anyone be satisfied? No, you can say you would, but the way people are never satisfied says otherwise.
Who here is saying that their opinion is law?I'm fairly new year, but I am doing my best to hold this tongue of mine to a lot of the hatred.A lot of this whole thing proves how stupid the public is.
Goodell is no saint...not great...blah blah blah. I get that.
Just calling him incompetent and constantly wanting his head for this as if he punched some woman or hit a kid is the laughable part.
What commissioner has the public liked recently? During their tenures, nearly every commissioner is disliked. And the public always thinks they know better how to run a league. Its laughable how ignorant people are about it.
Ive asked before...in multiple places...one of the biggest issues people bring up with Goodell is inconsistency. What has he been inconsistent about? Not just vague things...bring actual examples.
Also read some idiot comparing this to the Catholic Church. Please...the church was covering up actual crimes and keeping them even from the authorities. The NFL did not do such a thing. Did the Ravens ask for leniance...yes. But was any of it actually covered up from police or a judge?
The amount of people here without class, intelligence and understanding that their opinion is not law is amazing isn't it?
As a member of society, I am ashamed that people think that they should have a say in everything that results in a punishment. People asked for Rice to get booted, he did, were they satisfied? People want ADP gone, are they satisfied? Hardy, gone, they satisfied? No, they still talk looking for someone to blame.
If Goodell gets fired or resigns would anyone be satisfied? No, you can say you would, but the way people are never satisfied says otherwise.
You wouldnt know that by visiting this site or watching sports networks lately.Who here is saying that their opinion is law?I'm fairly new year, but I am doing my best to hold this tongue of mine to a lot of the hatred.A lot of this whole thing proves how stupid the public is.
Goodell is no saint...not great...blah blah blah. I get that.
Just calling him incompetent and constantly wanting his head for this as if he punched some woman or hit a kid is the laughable part.
What commissioner has the public liked recently? During their tenures, nearly every commissioner is disliked. And the public always thinks they know better how to run a league. Its laughable how ignorant people are about it.
Ive asked before...in multiple places...one of the biggest issues people bring up with Goodell is inconsistency. What has he been inconsistent about? Not just vague things...bring actual examples.
Also read some idiot comparing this to the Catholic Church. Please...the church was covering up actual crimes and keeping them even from the authorities. The NFL did not do such a thing. Did the Ravens ask for leniance...yes. But was any of it actually covered up from police or a judge?
The amount of people here without class, intelligence and understanding that their opinion is not law is amazing isn't it?
As a member of society, I am ashamed that people think that they should have a say in everything that results in a punishment. People asked for Rice to get booted, he did, were they satisfied? People want ADP gone, are they satisfied? Hardy, gone, they satisfied? No, they still talk looking for someone to blame.
If Goodell gets fired or resigns would anyone be satisfied? No, you can say you would, but the way people are never satisfied says otherwise.
The NFL's product is a pure entertainment product. It's value lies solely in how the public perceives the game and the entity running it.
If I think that the game has been corrupted by a commissioner that does special favors for certain teams and protects perpetrators of domestic violence in doing so, then I am perfectly in my right to say that I am dissatisfied with their product and that it no longer entertains me.
You telling other people what value they can place on their entertainment is ridiculous.
Imagine Goodell trying to handle the Donald Sterling incident. No, really, think about how that would have gone. Just for a minute.He is a complete buffoon.A lot of this whole thing proves how stupid the public is.
Goodell is no saint...not great...blah blah blah. I get that.
Just calling him incompetent and constantly wanting his head for this as if he punched some woman or hit a kid is the laughable part.
What commissioner has the public liked recently? During their tenures, nearly every commissioner is disliked. And the public always thinks they know better how to run a league. Its laughable how ignorant people are about it.
Ive asked before...in multiple places...one of the biggest issues people bring up with Goodell is inconsistency. What has he been inconsistent about? Not just vague things...bring actual examples.
Also read some idiot comparing this to the Catholic Church. Please...the church was covering up actual crimes and keeping them even from the authorities. The NFL did not do such a thing. Did the Ravens ask for leniance...yes. But was any of it actually covered up from police or a judge?
Edit:...why isn't the public more pissed about the slap on the wrist Rice got from a judge. Or the number of other criminal issues by players of all leagues and they don't see much punishment from our own criminal justice system? Why don't we hold our elected officials to the standard some of you want to hold Goodell too (when he wasn't even the one committing the crimes).
Probably would have went down very close to the same if the NFL owners acted the same as the NBA owners did as far as voting Sterling out.Imagine Goodell trying to handle the Donald Sterling incident. No, really, think about how that would have gone. Just for a minute.He is a complete buffoon.A lot of this whole thing proves how stupid the public is.
Goodell is no saint...not great...blah blah blah. I get that.
Just calling him incompetent and constantly wanting his head for this as if he punched some woman or hit a kid is the laughable part.
What commissioner has the public liked recently? During their tenures, nearly every commissioner is disliked. And the public always thinks they know better how to run a league. Its laughable how ignorant people are about it.
Ive asked before...in multiple places...one of the biggest issues people bring up with Goodell is inconsistency. What has he been inconsistent about? Not just vague things...bring actual examples.
Also read some idiot comparing this to the Catholic Church. Please...the church was covering up actual crimes and keeping them even from the authorities. The NFL did not do such a thing. Did the Ravens ask for leniance...yes. But was any of it actually covered up from police or a judge?
Edit:...why isn't the public more pissed about the slap on the wrist Rice got from a judge. Or the number of other criminal issues by players of all leagues and they don't see much punishment from our own criminal justice system? Why don't we hold our elected officials to the standard some of you want to hold Goodell too (when he wasn't even the one committing the crimes).
Wrong. Silver was the force of deep intellect driving the Sterling situation. He led the owners down the right path. Goodell would have either been paralyzed, or actively going down the wrong path. Your defense of him is bizarre.Probably would have went down very close to the same if the NFL owners acted the same as the NBA owners did as far as voting Sterling out.Imagine Goodell trying to handle the Donald Sterling incident. No, really, think about how that would have gone. Just for a minute.He is a complete buffoon.A lot of this whole thing proves how stupid the public is.
Goodell is no saint...not great...blah blah blah. I get that.
Just calling him incompetent and constantly wanting his head for this as if he punched some woman or hit a kid is the laughable part.
What commissioner has the public liked recently? During their tenures, nearly every commissioner is disliked. And the public always thinks they know better how to run a league. Its laughable how ignorant people are about it.
Ive asked before...in multiple places...one of the biggest issues people bring up with Goodell is inconsistency. What has he been inconsistent about? Not just vague things...bring actual examples.
Also read some idiot comparing this to the Catholic Church. Please...the church was covering up actual crimes and keeping them even from the authorities. The NFL did not do such a thing. Did the Ravens ask for leniance...yes. But was any of it actually covered up from police or a judge?
Edit:...why isn't the public more pissed about the slap on the wrist Rice got from a judge. Or the number of other criminal issues by players of all leagues and they don't see much punishment from our own criminal justice system? Why don't we hold our elected officials to the standard some of you want to hold Goodell too (when he wasn't even the one committing the crimes).
My defense is so bizarre that instead of talking about what i have actually said about Goodell and public perception...you created a made up scenario of your opinion of how he might have handled a situation in the NBA involving an owner.Wrong. Silver was the force of deep intellect driving the Sterling situation. He led the owners down the right path. Goodell would have either been paralyzed, or actively going down the wrong path. Your defense of him is bizarre.Probably would have went down very close to the same if the NFL owners acted the same as the NBA owners did as far as voting Sterling out.Imagine Goodell trying to handle the Donald Sterling incident. No, really, think about how that would have gone. Just for a minute.He is a complete buffoon.A lot of this whole thing proves how stupid the public is.
Goodell is no saint...not great...blah blah blah. I get that.
Just calling him incompetent and constantly wanting his head for this as if he punched some woman or hit a kid is the laughable part.
What commissioner has the public liked recently? During their tenures, nearly every commissioner is disliked. And the public always thinks they know better how to run a league. Its laughable how ignorant people are about it.
Ive asked before...in multiple places...one of the biggest issues people bring up with Goodell is inconsistency. What has he been inconsistent about? Not just vague things...bring actual examples.
Also read some idiot comparing this to the Catholic Church. Please...the church was covering up actual crimes and keeping them even from the authorities. The NFL did not do such a thing. Did the Ravens ask for leniance...yes. But was any of it actually covered up from police or a judge?
Edit:...why isn't the public more pissed about the slap on the wrist Rice got from a judge. Or the number of other criminal issues by players of all leagues and they don't see much punishment from our own criminal justice system? Why don't we hold our elected officials to the standard some of you want to hold Goodell too (when he wasn't even the one committing the crimes).
Do you really believe the NBA commish, employed by the owners, is the one telling the owners what to do? Have you never been employed by a rich billionaire? They NEVER are told what to do, try to tell them and you will see the wrath from the rich old white men. If Sterling went it is because the owners wanted it, not some stiff the owners approve to be the front man for the mistakes made the decision.Wrong. Silver was the force of deep intellect driving the Sterling situation. He led the owners down the right path. Goodell would have either been paralyzed, or actively going down the wrong path. Your defense of him is bizarre.Probably would have went down very close to the same if the NFL owners acted the same as the NBA owners did as far as voting Sterling out.Imagine Goodell trying to handle the Donald Sterling incident. No, really, think about how that would have gone. Just for a minute.He is a complete buffoon.A lot of this whole thing proves how stupid the public is.
Goodell is no saint...not great...blah blah blah. I get that.
Just calling him incompetent and constantly wanting his head for this as if he punched some woman or hit a kid is the laughable part.
What commissioner has the public liked recently? During their tenures, nearly every commissioner is disliked. And the public always thinks they know better how to run a league. Its laughable how ignorant people are about it.
Ive asked before...in multiple places...one of the biggest issues people bring up with Goodell is inconsistency. What has he been inconsistent about? Not just vague things...bring actual examples.
Also read some idiot comparing this to the Catholic Church. Please...the church was covering up actual crimes and keeping them even from the authorities. The NFL did not do such a thing. Did the Ravens ask for leniance...yes. But was any of it actually covered up from police or a judge?
Edit:...why isn't the public more pissed about the slap on the wrist Rice got from a judge. Or the number of other criminal issues by players of all leagues and they don't see much punishment from our own criminal justice system? Why don't we hold our elected officials to the standard some of you want to hold Goodell too (when he wasn't even the one committing the crimes).
Dont you get it?Edit:...why isn't the public more pissed about the slap on the wrist Rice got from a judge. Or the number of other criminal issues by players of all leagues and they don't see much punishment from our own criminal justice system? Why don't we hold our elected officials to the standard some of you want to hold Goodell too (when he wasn't even the one committing the crimes).
Just how has he made it this?Dont you get it?Edit:...why isn't the public more pissed about the slap on the wrist Rice got from a judge. Or the number of other criminal issues by players of all leagues and they don't see much punishment from our own criminal justice system? Why don't we hold our elected officials to the standard some of you want to hold Goodell too (when he wasn't even the one committing the crimes).
More than half of the people who want Goodell out, like me. agree with you 100%; but are pissed that Goodell let the NFL become the NCL; the National Cause League. He made his death bed by placating every cause that has come down the road, and there are many who are pleased he might die in that bed because he has set a standard in discipline & political correctness that the NFL can never possibly live up to and along the way, in making sure he has listened to every cause that has come down the pike, has watered down the game to make it practically unrecognizable vs a generation ago.
So, I agree...it is ridiculous that nearly every media critic is calling for Goodell's firing because they claim he isnt doing enough; when in reality, as you say, it's law enforcements job before anyone else; yet I cheer those critics on because I want the NFL to learn that placating these causes du jour never, ever results in them saying "thank you"; instead it only attracts more causes and more problems. Unfortunately, even if it had a new commish, I doubt the NFL has an epiphany to realize they've chosen the wrong path.
When does Rog testify?Pretty amazing to look back on the #### show from just one month ago and how little anyone cares now. NFL commish might be the best job on earth.
Are ya freak'n kidding me?8. I think Sean Gilbert has a very small chance of unseating De Smith as the executive director of the NFL Players Association, but he sure did provide some good sportswriter fodder Friday when he released the combined salaries of some big stars who got their current jobs in 2006: Roger Goodell (who got the commish’s job in August 2006), Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson (both drafted in 2007), among others. Goodell: $210 million. Johnson: $94 million. Peterson: $69 million. Chew on those for a while.
Make the owners obscene amounts of money?Did anyone see this?
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/10/27/nfl-week-8-ben-roethlisberger-steelers-record-passing/6/
Rodger Godell made a fifth of a billion dollars since he took over as commish?8. I think Sean Gilbert has a very small chance of unseating De Smith as the executive director of the NFL Players Association, but he sure did provide some good sportswriter fodder Friday when he released the combined salaries of some big stars who got their current jobs in 2006: Roger Goodell (who got the commish’s job in August 2006), Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson (both drafted in 2007), among others. Goodell: $210 million. Johnson: $94 million. Peterson: $69 million. Chew on those for a while.
What has he done?
He is responsible?Make the owners obscene amounts of money?Did anyone see this?
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/10/27/nfl-week-8-ben-roethlisberger-steelers-record-passing/6/
Rodger Godell made a fifth of a billion dollars since he took over as commish?8. I think Sean Gilbert has a very small chance of unseating De Smith as the executive director of the NFL Players Association, but he sure did provide some good sportswriter fodder Friday when he released the combined salaries of some big stars who got their current jobs in 2006: Roger Goodell (who got the commish’s job in August 2006), Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson (both drafted in 2007), among others. Goodell: $210 million. Johnson: $94 million. Peterson: $69 million. Chew on those for a while.
What has he done?
How did "he" go out of his way to persecute pot smokers?Did anyone see this?
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/10/27/nfl-week-8-ben-roethlisberger-steelers-record-passing/6/
Are ya freak'n kidding me?8. I think Sean Gilbert has a very small chance of unseating De Smith as the executive director of the NFL Players Association, but he sure did provide some good sportswriter fodder Friday when he released the combined salaries of some big stars who got their current jobs in 2006: Roger Goodell (who got the commish’s job in August 2006), Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson (both drafted in 2007), among others. Goodell: $210 million. Johnson: $94 million. Peterson: $69 million. Chew on those for a while.
Rodger Godell made a fifth of a billion dollars since he took over as commish?
What has he done?
I have to question paying THAT MUCH to a guy whose epitaph has been that he protected a wife beater but went out of his way to and persecute pot smokers.
This snake has to go. Hasn't done anything to justify that obscene salary.
Yep.Pretty amazing to look back on the #### show from just one month ago and how little anyone cares now. NFL commish might be the best job on earth.