Goodell's Tenure as Commissioner (1 Viewer)

[Ksquared]

He should be gone... Corrupt Person and commish. NFL as a whole is a corrupt, vile organization....

Continue to spew your hatred of Goodell and the NFL. I just have one question...why are you on this board if the NFL organization is so corrupt and vile?

They are owned by 32 to people that appoint a Commissioner...that is not going to change. So for a real change of your "corrupt and vile organization", you will need to force ownership removal.....which ones? how are you going to choose? or maybe we should just have the government take the league over?

Basically what is your solution? I don't think anything can happen that would change the NFL if it truly is a corrupt and vile organization so why keep following it? Go follow the "purer" college football then. Or are you just a troll that wants to dump on the NFL every chance you get?

 

[B-Deep]

I am not a goodell basher, i think he does what the owners pay him to do

in this case though, i think he is going to be gone

 

[Doug B]

He should be gone... Corrupt Person and commish. NFL as a whole is a corrupt, vile organization....

Continue to spew your hatred of Goodell and the NFL. I just have one question...why are you on this board if the NFL organization is so corrupt and vile?

You know, once can enjoy the sport between the white lines and still, without any hypocrisy, have contempt for the league as a business entity. For better or worse, Goodell is the public face of that entity -- and also the self-appointed moral compass of that entity.

 

[Doug B]

I am not a goodell basher, I think he does what the owners pay him to do

in this case though, i think he is going to be gone

Yep -- even punching bags and flak jackets wear out and get replaced eventually.

 

[B-Deep]

I am not a goodell basher, I think he does what the owners pay him to do

in this case though, i think he is going to be gone

Yep -- even punching bags and flak jackets wear out and get replaced eventually.

he'll get paid to take the fall for this, get a nice escape deal, and someone else will come in

 

[roadkill1292]

He should be gone... Corrupt Person and commish. NFL as a whole is a corrupt, vile organization....

Continue to spew your hatred of Goodell and the NFL. I just have one question...why are you on this board if the NFL organization is so corrupt and vile?

They are owned by 32 to people that appoint a Commissioner...that is not going to change. So for a real change of your "corrupt and vile organization", you will need to force ownership removal.....which ones? how are you going to choose? or maybe we should just have the government take the league over?

Basically what is your solution? I don't think anything can happen that would change the NFL if it truly is a corrupt and vile organization so why keep following it? Go follow the "purer" college football then. Or are you just a troll that wants to dump on the NFL every chance you get?

Nationalizing pro football isn't the worst of ideas. Especially if you think it's pretty important.

 

[Ksquared]

Really?? Just what I want - politicians that know nothing about the sport making policies and directing the game. Why do so many think a government entity is always better than a private entity. How many things do they have to screw up for people to realize that government is not a better solution for much of anything anymore ...(veteran's medical, social security, obamacare, nsa, just hitting the top of the stack issues in the last 6 months or so).... You really want hearings into whether the official that made the right call in the last 3 min of the game between the San Antonio "whatevers" and the Los Angeles "whatevers" because it is politically expedient to do so for some politician of an affected team. Talk about politics in the game of football, if the govt took it over I would instantly question the integrity of the game and probably never watch again. The scandals in the NFL are small potatoes to the scandals in the govt.

 

[roadkill1292]

Really?? Just what I want - politicians that know nothing about the sport making policies and directing the game. Why do so many think a government entity is always better than a private entity. How many things do they have to screw up for people to realize that government is not a better solution for much of anything anymore ...(veteran's medical, social security, obamacare, nsa, just hitting the top of the stack issues in the last 6 months or so).... You really want hearings into whether the official that made the right call in the last 3 min of the game between the San Antonio "whatevers" and the Los Angeles "whatevers" because it is politically expedient to do so for some politician of an affected team. Talk about politics in the game of football, if the govt took it over I would instantly question the integrity of the game and probably never watch again. The scandals in the NFL are small potatoes to the scandals in the govt.

You're just jumping to conclusions. There's lot of different ways to nationalize an industry. Use a little imagination.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I am not a goodell basher, I think he does what the owners pay him to do

in this case though, i think he is going to be gone

Yep -- even punching bags and flak jackets wear out and get replaced eventually.

he'll get paid to take the fall for this, get a nice escape deal, and someone else will come in

Condoleezza Rice - imagine the players sitting in her office explaining some Domestic Violence charge...

 

[fatness]

London FletcherVerified account ‏@LFletcher59

@nfl if Roger Goodell won't resign put him on leave of absence pending outside investigation. NFL fans, players, and sponsors deserve that.

Brian WestbrookVerified account ‏@36westbrook

Being a leader is not a part time job. If Goodell holds the players to a high standard, he should be held to that same high standard!

 

[pizzatyme]

I think this coverup is one in a long line of such going back to Spygate. That is all.

 

[FUBAR]

216 total votes in. What was nearly 60% after 88 votes and 56% after 120 votes has steadily declined over the last couple days.

The Rice incident will blow over and Goodell will continue as Commissioner indefinitely. Business as usual. (106 votes [52.48%])

If I started this poll a day later it might be well under 50% now.

I'm honestly still on the fence as to how I feel about it. I've leaned each way at different times over the last few days.

There are really only two viable options. Either nothing happens to him or he's gone in a few weeks. Nothing else makes any sense.

we might predict another screwup.

 

[Bojang0301]

Jesus Christ congress... Do something worthwhile! No one wants you involved in sports, professional or collegiate!

 

[Sinn Fein]

You would think Goodell was the one on the tape knocking her the f out.

Maybe Martha Burk will speak up...Goodell can take off and do a presser from the gates of Augusta before teeing off with Hootie Johnson.

Goodell was at Augusta when the tapes were delivered

 

[Todd Andrews]

Goodell is giant terd.

 

[B-Deep]

Goodell is giant terd.

it is like no one in the nfl bothered to learn anything about this subject.

maddening

 

[Ministry of Pain]

BountyGate

BullyGate

BatteryGate

When does it end with him? We should be celebrating the 2014 season and instead we get another episode in the never ending saga of "As the NFL Turns." And need I mention the CTE debacle where a judge had to literally step in and save the players from themselves. Maybe this is what attracts all the skirts to begin with, the drama.

 

[Tango]

You're just jumping to conclusions. There's lot of different ways to nationalize an industry. Use a little imagination.

Nah, I'd rather not. It makes my stomach turn just thinking about it.

Ugh, I just cant wait to hear everyone's little plan and "rules" about how it should work under gov't control.

 

[beef]

Goodell is easily the best commish ever.

 

[fatness]

Goodell is giant terd.

Good lord.

In the latest seriously-####ed-up development in the NFL's handling of the Ray Rice investigation, the league appears to be trying to shift the blame to Janay Rice

It is insane because it blames Janay for "[believing] she was partly at fault," which is at the top of the page on any description of battered woman syndrome.

It is insane because Roger Goodell met with Janay Rice in a crowded conference room. It was Janay and six men, including Goodell, Ravens brass, two NFL executives, and the man who hit her. Any counselor, cop, or attorney experienced in domestic violence issues could have and should have told the NFL that victims will often blame themselves, defend their abusers, and even change their stories, all in the name of protecting the man they love. The NFL's judiciary should have disregarded anything Janay Rice told them, especially anything she said while sitting next to Ray Rice and five other men with vested interests in Ray Rice not getting in trouble.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Goodell is giant terd.

Good lord.

In the latest seriously-####ed-up development in the NFL's handling of the Ray Rice investigation, the league appears to be trying to shift the blame to Janay Rice

It is insane because it blames Janay for "[believing] she was partly at fault," which is at the top of the page on any description of battered woman syndrome.

It is insane because Roger Goodell met with Janay Rice in a crowded conference room. It was Janay and six men, including Goodell, Ravens brass, two NFL executives, and the man who hit her. Any counselor, cop, or attorney experienced in domestic violence issues could have and should have told the NFL that victims will often blame themselves, defend their abusers, and even change their stories, all in the name of protecting the man they love. The NFL's judiciary should have disregarded anything Janay Rice told them, especially anything she said while sitting next to Ray Rice and five other men with vested interests in Ray Rice not getting in trouble.

And Goodell lied in his interview with Norah O'Donnell about what he was told in the interview with Ray Rice and his now wife.

 

[fatness]

Though NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell continues to have the solid support of many of the league’s 32 owners, the group is prepared to act against Goodell, potentially considering his dismissal, if the investigation by former FBI director Robert S. Mueller III concludes that Goodell was guilty of willful and egregious misconduct in the handling of the Ray Rice case, several people familiar with owners’ views said Thursday.

The stage is set.

 

[fatness]

And Goodell lied in his interview with Norah O'Donnell about what he was told in the interview with Ray Rice and his now wife.

From that article

Ray Rice told NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on June 16 that he punched then-fiancee in a casino elevator, four sources have told "Outside the Lines," an assertion that contradicts Goodell's statement this week that "when we met with Ray Rice and his representatives, it was ambiguous about what actually happened."

Goodell made the statement Tuesday during an interview with CBS News, saying the latest video released by TMZ Sports about the incident was "inconsistent" with what the former Baltimore Ravens running back had told him. But four sources close to Rice say that during the disciplinary meeting in the commissioner's office on June 16, Rice told Goodell he had hit Janay Rice, then his fiancee, in the face inside a Revel Casino Hotel elevator in Atlantic City, New Jersey, and had knocked her unconscious.

 

[Sinn Fein]

You guys are making conclusions based on partial information...Ray Rice could have said "I punched her with an open hand after she attacked me, and that caused her to lose her balance and hit her head on the rail, knocking her out."

Both the commissioner and the outside the lines witnesses would be correct...

 

[Tango]

Though NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell continues to have the solid support of many of the league’s 32 owners, the group is prepared to act against Goodell, potentially considering his dismissal, if the investigation by former FBI director Robert S. Mueller III concludes that Goodell was guilty of willful and egregious misconduct in the handling of the Ray Rice case, several people familiar with owners’ views said Thursday.

The stage is set.

Sure....though doesnt it seem that the standard pushed by those who are intent are saving him is he's out only if he lied. And that's ridiculous. He'll be out even if he didnt lie and (1) A he turned a blind eye to the tape/B was not diligent in seeking the tape via freedom of information/OR/C if the tape was ever in the NFL building plus (2) the media continues to do its job. I think option B is plenty to put him down assuming the media doesnt let up.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Scandal doesn't seem to be going away.

 

[Franknbeans]

The main problem is that Goodell has no credibility left. The players don't like him and despite the billions he has made the owners, he simple will not be taken seriously anymore, at least to the extent a commissioner should be. He must go so the league can save some face and at least appear like they are serious about "protecting the shield". Unfortunately, they may not be.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Eric Winston, president of the NFL Players Association, said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should no longer have the power to discipline players.

Winston made the comments during an interview with CNN's Erin Burnett. When asked whether Goodell should even keep his job, he responded with the suggestion to shift disciplinary responsibilities.




"There's an issue with player conduct...And maybe it's time to take that out of the commissioner's hands and put it into a neutral arbitration process where there can be a fair process for everybody involved.
Maybe it's a situation where he can discipline guys right out of the gate, maybe he can't. But I think that's something that needs to be explored and needs to be looked into."
Speaking on behalf of the players, Winston stressed the importance of a player's ability to appeal his suspension. But right now, that pertains most importantly to former Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice, who was suspended indefinitely from the league following the release of video evidence of him knocking his then-fiancee unconscious.

Winston said that Rice, who is planning to appeal his suspension from the NFL, deserves a second chance to play again. He would not say, though, whether or not Rice's original two-game suspension was fair.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/9/15/6155375/roger-goodell-nfl-discipline-nfl-players-association-ray-rice

 

[Doug B]

Scandal doesn't seem to be going away.

Feels to me like Goodell is skating by, actually. Seemed like tipping point was close at hand last week, but it didn't quite happen.

Meanwhile, Adrian Peterson has diverted a lot of attention, Ray Rice has appealed (so his suspension looks less permanent), and the league has hired some female domestic-violence experts to craft new policy. Goodell may still go down eventually ... but I have a feeling when it does, we really won't see it coming. It will be plausibly deniable until a second before he goes away.

One smallish thing that could build up into a bigger thing with time and fortitude, though -- Radisson Hotels (dba Carlson) ending their limited local partnership with the Vikings. If there's a slow burn, things build, and at some point a heavy hitter like Budweiser or Southwest Airlines pulls out of overall league sponsorship ... that would be curtains for Goodell.

 

[ericttspikes]

He has to be making an exit soon. His absence the last week on such a huge issue spoke volumes.

 

[craxie]

Eric Winston, president of the NFL Players Association, said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should no longer have the power to discipline players.

The players association should be VERY CAREFUL about throwing stones here. Goodell is getting in trouble for being TOO LENIENT. If he gets the boot for being too lenient, what do you think the next guy is going to do?

 

[fatness]

Eric Winston, president of the NFL Players Association, said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should no longer have the power to discipline players.

The players association should be VERY CAREFUL about throwing stones here. Goodell is getting in trouble for being TOO LENIENT. If he gets the boot for being too lenient, what do you think the next guy is going to do?

If Goodell gets the boot it'll be for being too incompetent, too inconsistent, too arrogant, and making more messes than he could clean up.

 

[drummer]

Are the owners making more money? Guess what, that's Goodell's only real job.

QFT

 

[fatness]

Are the owners making more money? Guess what, that's Goodell's only real job.

QFT

Maybe not doing his job so well.

Broken down in terms of annual growth rates: NFL franchise values grew at an annualized rate of 11.7 percent from 1991 to 2006 under Tagliabue and just 3.5 percent per year since 2006 under Goodell.

Since Goodell took over as commissioner in 2006, NFL franchises have risen in value by 32 percent, net of inflation, according to Forbes. That’s the lowest of the North American leagues by some margin. NHL franchises have increased in value by 114 percent, MLB franchises by 82 percent and NBA franchises by 65 percent over the same period

 

[Raider Nation]

The national women’s advocacy organization known as UltraViolet will once again fly a “Goodell Must Go” banner over the site of a prime-time, nationally televised game. The group announced Wednesday that the banner will fly over the Georgia Dome before Thursday night’s game between the Buccaneers and the Falcons.

Do these broads know what a dome is?

 

[btemp]

Are the owners making more money? Guess what, that's Goodell's only real job.

QFT

His economic record for the league isn't that strong. In absolute terms it is, but relative to other franchises and relative to before his tenure, he's actually not done an amazing job.

I suspect it's much like riding a rocket ship - you don't do a lot.

 

[GreenBaySnackers]

The national womens advocacy organization known as UltraViolet will once again fly a Goodell Must Go banner over the site of a prime-time, nationally televised game. The group announced Wednesday that the banner will fly over the Georgia Dome before Thursday nights game between the Buccaneers and the Falcons.

Do these broads know what a dome is?

YAY! PURPLE POWER! YOU GO GURLZ!

 

[whitem0nkey]

Business as usual and he is done.

 

[ericttspikes]

It probably takes a few weeks to get his severance package together, but the writing is on the wall. When Pepsi and Budweiser start questioning his competence it all over.

 

[sho nuff]

It probably takes a few weeks to get his severance package together, but the writing is on the wall. When Pepsi and Budweiser start questioning his competence it all over.

Meh...Bud's letter of concern is pretty weak (and pretty hollow of a threat...also laughable given how they objectify women).

How quickly would Miller or anyone else have a proposal to the NFL if Bud really did pull out?

Same with Pepsi.

 

[ericttspikes]

It probably takes a few weeks to get his severance package together, but the writing is on the wall. When Pepsi and Budweiser start questioning his competence it all over.

Meh...Bud's letter of concern is pretty weak (and pretty hollow of a threat...also laughable given how they objectify women).

How quickly would Miller or anyone else have a proposal to the NFL if Bud really did pull out?

Same with Pepsi.

All true, but where is Roger? It's like there is no commissioner right now. If he's hoping it all blows over, he's miscalculated. Bud's letter was public. That was huge. I'm sure they've voiced their opinions privately with the league before, and probably did in this case too. There was no reason to go public except distancing themselves with all that's been going on with the league this season. A PR move. Same with Pepsi. Goodell has been MIA for at least a week. He was "the enforcer" now he's silent? He's gone. If nothing else to be a scapegoat and let the league move on with a fresh start.

 

[sho nuff]

It probably takes a few weeks to get his severance package together, but the writing is on the wall. When Pepsi and Budweiser start questioning his competence it all over.

Meh...Bud's letter of concern is pretty weak (and pretty hollow of a threat...also laughable given how they objectify women).

How quickly would Miller or anyone else have a proposal to the NFL if Bud really did pull out?

Same with Pepsi.

All true, but where is Roger? It's like there is no commissioner right now. If he's hoping it all blows over, he's miscalculated. Bud's letter was public. That was huge. I'm sure they've voiced their opinions privately with the league before, and probably did in this case too. There was no reason to go public except distancing themselves with all that's been going on with the league this season. A PR move. Same with Pepsi. Goodell has been MIA for at least a week. He was "the enforcer" now he's silent? He's gone. If nothing else to be a scapegoat and let the league move on with a fresh start.

I think he is working more behind the scenes now than really being out front in front of cameras.

(IMO...it was he and the NFL pushing Minnesota and Carolina with Hardy and AP).

IMO...Bud's letter was crap. The league being against a Beer company's moral code? A company that uses and objectifies women and sex to sell alcohol? Please...it got the headlines and that was big...but anyone who can think can see how BS a company like them (or Nike) is in talking about Morals...same with congress.

And yes...Bud was making a PR move in a way. Though, I doubt many were really going to stop drinking their piss beer over them sponsoring the NFL.

Bud drinkers are likely wifebeaters...I kid I kid...though, they probably wear wifebeaters.

 

[Doug B]

All true, but where is Roger? It's like there is no commissioner right now. If he's hoping it all blows over, he's miscalculated ... Goodell has been MIA for at least a week. He was "the enforcer" now he's silent? He's gone. If nothing else to be a scapegoat and let the league move on with a fresh start.

Staying under the radar is Goodell's survival response right now. I've got the general impression that it's working.

 

[Tango]

All true, but where is Roger? It's like there is no commissioner right now. If he's hoping it all blows over, he's miscalculated ... Goodell has been MIA for at least a week. He was "the enforcer" now he's silent? He's gone. If nothing else to be a scapegoat and let the league move on with a fresh start.

Staying under the radar is Goodell's survival response right now. I've got the general impression that it's working.

Interesting, I've gotten the opposite impression.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Is idiot azhle Goodell speaking or something today?

Synopsis?

 

[Widbil83]

Is idiot azhle Goodell speaking or something today?

Synopsis?

All players have to attend a bunch of pc classes, he made a mistake, changes to come, we need to do better blah blah blah.

 

[Raider Nation]

I liked the part where he and DeMaurice Smith have agreed that rape is no good.

 

[Raider Nation]

Looks like "We need to get this right!" is the go-to phrase when you F up.

Zygi and Mark Wilf must have said that fifty times the other day; now Goodell is parroting the same crap.

 

[Franknbeans]

Goodell is a joke

 

[Donnybrook]

"Please don't take me to an elevator" LOL